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Other business laptops are also welcome in /tpg/ (e.g. Dell Latitude/Precision, HP EliteBook/ZBook).
New 2016 ThinkPads announced:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/9889/lenovo-refreshes-thinkpad-lineup-at-ces
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2016/01/big-ram-laptops-are-abundant-as-lenovo-does-its-skylake-refresh/
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If you're looking for purchase advice, READ THE BUYERS GUIDE FIRST. Then post, stating budget and requirements (e.g. size and performance).
Don't buy anything OTHER THAN T, X AND W/P SERIES if you want the Real ThinkPad Experience™
Recommended models:
T420 - 14", normal size
X220 - 12.5", lightweight
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Why ThinkPad? (also applies to other business laptops)
>They’re really cheap when you buy a used one.
>Keyboards feel excellent while typing (yes, even the newer ones).
>Great durability thanks to the inclusion of rollcages and use of glass fiber reinforced plastic for the chassis. The keyboard is splash proof and spilled liquids will drain out.
>Utilitarian design - e.g. indicator LEDs, 7 row keyboard layout on older models.
>Docking solutions that easily turns your laptop into a desktop.
>Easy to repair, upgrade and maintain thanks to readily available service manuals for almost every model. Spare parts are easy and cheap to obtain.
>The best trackpoint (that red thing on the middle of the keyboard). Great for those who type a lot or hate swiping their fingers all over a touchpad.
>Excellent GNU/Linux & *BSD support.
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Used ThinkPad Buyers Guide:
http://ktgee.net/tpg
EPP discount for new ThinkPads (USA & Canada only, usually 15%+ off):
http://pastebin.com/wumE7L2f
ThinkWiki - Info on ThinkPads and running GNU/Linux on them:
http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ThinkWiki
ThinkPad service guides w/ tutorial videos:
https://www.lenovoservicetraining.com/
>tfw waiting on two thinkpads to arrive
>>52351163
What did you buy?
>>52351269
2 X200's
the second was a surprise win, but at the price of 16usd + shipping, hard to be mad at winning it.
gonna try and libreboot them, maybe sell the one in worse condition.
I would shell out like crazy for a laptop to replace my x220 in a few years, especially if I could get a nicer screen (perhaps 16:10 instead of 16:9 too) but they're never going to make a new one with the keyboard I love.
>>52351372
>laptop to replace my x220
>ultraportable with 16:10 screen
Got you covered :^)
>>52351384
I'd rather not mash my fingers against a metal plate with every keystroke thank you very much.
>>52351404
>>52351384
I remember a train ride when a guy relatively close to my was writing some e-mails or some shit on it.
Good lord he was hitting the keyboard so hard with his fingers, the whole cart had to endure the metallic clanking of this piece of shit the whole ride.
Not sure if he's just retarded or it's the keyboard that's just godawful.
>>52351502
It's the keyboard that has no travel, so you don't know if you're hitting the keys correctly unless you're smashing them.
You can see that behaviour on every newish mac.
>>52351384
I want to smash my head through that god awful keyboard
The x520 is a lot smaller than I expected, it's not as heavy as I thought it was going to be.
>>52351617
also I can only imagine trying to paste using ctrl v, would be like trying to stretch your hand from california to texas
>>52351404
>I'd rather not mash my fingers against a metal plate with every keystroke thank you very much.
the best thinkpad keyboard ever made had a solid metal backplate :^)
>>52351677
You use the command key in OS X instead of control.
just bought an i7 t430s for 400€.. did I do well?
>>52351700
yeah, but my point is that the key spacing is just plain retarded, it's too wide.
>>52351710
>did I do well
what would change if we said no?
would you do a 720 spin and return?
>>52351680
sure, but it at least has some travel and resistance
>>52351731
B-but it's s-so pweety ;_;
>>52351736
>what would change if we said no?
Well I would do better next time if I didnt do well .. Could even return it because the seller is commercial.
Who else will try this on their old thinkpad tomorrow?
http://www.jide.com/en/remixos-for-pc
>>52351793
next time use the buying guide instead.
what is the most powerful 12-14" thinkpad still using ddr2 rams?
>>52351823
>shilling some china shit
hope you are at least getting some yuans for every post, otherwise not really sure why you'd be doing this.
Poorfag here. X201 or T410?
So has anything come of the thinkpad retro yet?
I'm not buying some chiclet keyboard garbage.
>>52351952
overpaid for a T410 a couple years back.
still use it, it's a great machine. just use a ssd.
>>52351710
you did well anon. Thinkpads are a bit more costy in Europe, that's normal.
Which should I get?
>>52351384
>>52352094
the blazeit
>>52352094
>arabic symbols on the keys
wtf
>>52352094
depends.. If you're homosexual and enjoy anal sex without vaseline I'd get the mac, otherwise I'd get the Thinkpad
>>52352094
>t420
or
>Asus X555LN-DM497H
>>52352140
don't like numbers anon?
>>52352228
>Asus X555LN-DM497H
wat is this
>>52351859
What the fuck? this is literally the first time i post on /g/ in months.
Besides, looks like a lightweight OS with MSoffice, and that is fucking great.
>>52352363
go for it, tell us how you like it
>>52352350
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Asus+X555LN-DM497H
Might aswell kill yourself now
http://shop.lenovo.com/gb/en/faqs/laptop-faqs/used-laptops/
>>52352623
>a brand that makes a living of selling new products is warning against used products
What a surprise!
>>52351823
I wonder how well it will act on IBM era ThinkPads.
If it does well, my old-ass ThinkPad will get a new OS for sure.
>>52352094
x240 has unusable trackpoint
>>52352738
I can't imagine not using a mouse anyway desu, pic related
>>52352808
spoken like a true anon who hasn't used his tp for shitposting in bed.
>>52352094
420 blaze it. perfect well rounded thinkpad you can get high with. Get the 1600x900 panel or you will be sorry later
How to install Power manager 7.xx on win10 th2? (tried the Run in compatibility mode windows 7 trick, but it obviously didn't work)
>>52352889
It feels good. Doing this now from my T420. Nothing brings me more joy than shit posting from bed and playing with this red clit all night long.
>>52353081
first you must install gentoo
>>52353101
Anyone with a non-retard answer?
>>52351145
Damn the x1 yoga with the OLED screen is interesting. I wonder how the battery is.
>>52353114
fine, install win7
>>52351145
hi friends
My t410i keyboard power button is KILL. it's the same keyboard for the x220 and other models. i know that's the problem bc my dad has another chinkpad with the same keyboard and I used his keyboard to turn the laptop on.
Is there any other way to turn the laptop on? a keys combo or something?
pls help :(
What's the FRU for the x230 IPS screen?
X220 owner here, was wondering if you guys have any experience with these:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/54mm-Express-Card-ExpressCard-to-3-Port-USB-3-0-Adapter-for-Laptop-FL1100-Chip-/111822206257?hash=item1a091f7531:g:tkUAAOSwLzdWRDPj
would be great to turn my expresscard bay into something useful.
also, what's the difference between the first one and this:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/3-0-54mm-Expresscard-Express-2-Port-USB-Adapter-Hub-Superspeed-Notebook-laptop-/361348755584?hash=item5422107080:g:-kEAAOSwLVZVsqQ9
is the power cord thing really necessary? Would be running with gnu/linux and (possibbly) freebsd. Thanks!
>>52352140
>Located in United Kingdom
Found it.
check out my fucking EPIC gaming laptop you plebs
its so FUCKING HARDCORE hgnagn HGNGNG
>>52353114
gentstall inoo
>>52351680
Is this the T6x one?
>>52351824
You're a faggot desu senpai
How bad is the screen on a t420?
Is it good enough for word processing?
>>52353937
I would describe it as usable. There's nothing particularly special or impressive about it. If a good screen is important to you and you can afford to give up a bit of portability, consider a T520 instead. 15" Thinkpads have always had far better screens than 14" ones.
I run linux on my x220 as my main os. Is it a good idea to install an msata ssd and create a separate windows drive for software purposes?
alright guys how did I do
http://ebay.com/itm/361461795061
got a 120GB 850 mSATA Evo for $60 too
Never actually had a laptop; thinking of getting a T420 for some general purpose activities (word processing, chinese cartoons, shitty indie games, light programming). Thinking specifically of getting: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/201348514763
Kinda worried by the "Showing minor signs of use, the odd mark, scratch, buff to be expected. May have minor cracks to plastics" as I rarely buy preowned products - should this be okay or is it something to worry about? Might be able to get it cheaper somewhere else, but I'm willing to pay this much. Should order it tomorrow if this seems fine.
>>52354630
>1366x768
Don't do it. Find one with 1600x900.
>>52352808
please fuck off from /tpg/ and buy yourself a kekbook or some consumer shit laptop.
There's no hope for you
>>52355111
rms fucked his wrists from using his laptop (at the time a thinkpad) too much
laptops are ergonomically bad for you
>>52355046
Yeah that was another concern of mine. Is 1366x768 that bad then?
>>52354630
I'm in the same boat as you but I'd like to get SSD and >>52355046
Sucks that our VAT is so much, on top of US import cost.
>>52355111
What does cursor preference have to do with your bogeymen?
>>52355129
Isn't that more about keyboard than cursor though?
What's a good cheap SSD for my msata slot?
>>52355160
using the trackpoint all the time is also bad for you, i mean there's people out there who have had their tendons operated on because they were overusing blackberries
Guys, if I replace the keyboard on my t430 with a backlit one, can I still use the Thinklight?
>>52355355
There's three levels of illumination:
>backlight
>stronger backlight
>thinklight
>>52355190
>>52354344 here
check ebay, there was a crucial m4 120gb for like $50, also where I got my evo
>>52355683
Should I be careful with ebay ssd's?
I don't want to buy one with the read limit almost reached.
>>52355716
message the seller and ask for a CDI.
if the seller doesn't get you one, and you don't mind taking a risk then buy it, if it is near or at the read limit, file a claim with ebay, if they deny it, file a claim with paypal, if they deny it, file a claim with your cc.
it's pretty much impossible to not get your money back if you get screwed over. you probably won't even have to file a claim with paypal or your cc if things go wrong, ebay is very buyer oriented
How much could I sell my old i7 e520 chinkpad for?
>>52353397
You could jump start it by using Wake On LAN and carrying around a raspberry pi that autosends the command when you plug it in.
Or you could replace the keyboard you cheap fuck.
Why do the trackpads look like worn-down carpet on the used T420 images?
>>52356407
Its a sticker. Take it off.
>>52356453
what?
>>52356502
The bumpy part is a sticker. Take your fingernail to the corner and peel it off.
>>52356520
Tried it, didn't work.
X260 or X1 or wait for the "Retro"? It's going to be xboxheug isn't it? inb4 DYEL manlet etc
>>52356582
I've done it myself. Just take your fingernail to corner and peel it off. Its a thick sticker. When I get home, I'll upload a pic of my smooth trackpad. You should disable the trackpad in bios anyway, the trackpoint is so much better once you get used to it.
>>52356645
but which uses more battery
>>52356667
The voltage difference is minuscule. The trackpoint uses less and its much faster. You also don't have to worry about your wrist accidentally brushing across the trackpad when typing.
>>52356595
Holy fuck that thing is in good condition
Looks like some of the FHD mod kits might go on sale again in a couple of days.
Hoping there is a T420/T430 update.
http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?f=45&t=118070
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-T420-Core-i5-2540-2-6Ghz-320GB-HDD-4GB-RAM-14-TFT-Win-7-Pro-/121856679732?hash=item1c5f395f34:g:Z6AAAOSwKtlWip7y
>no returns
otherwise, is this not pretty good?
>>52357235
It's a pretty good deal, I'd do it
>>52356595
X1 Yoga looks really interesting, really depends on how much oled sucks the battery.
>tfw you buy a w550s not knowing what you're getting into
It's got a nice keyboard I guess...
Testing something out. Posting from my T23. I have no idea how to boot from usb on this computer. Is there anyway to do it, or do I have to find some other way to install Linux on this thing?
>>>52358025
I just got my w550s. Why do you dislike yours?
Help me /g/. How do I save my 4-year-old t420? I've never done anything with computers other than putting the microSSD in this at the very beginning.
>>52358411
>i7
Found your problem, but seriously disable dedicated gpu, that shit will eat your battery, and keep your laptop feeling like a stove top. May want to consider reapplying thermal paste also.
>2016
>buying a ThinkPad
does anyone know what the main differences are between the x220 and the x230? I used to have an x230 tablet from my high school, but they took it away on graduation, which really sucks. I want to get the x230 again, but the places i'm finding it online are so expensive i might as well buy one new somewhere. the x220 is far cheaper though, so i might sit with that, i just don't really know whether it's worth settling or not.
>>52358397
Wait, is there something wrong with the w550s?
hey folks
is $185 a ba dprice for Lenovo Laptop T420 Core i5 2520M (2.50 GHz) 4GB Memory 320 GB HDD 14.0" Win 7
plus shipping? good refurb
X220 user here. The screen res has become too shit for me to tolerate anymore, so I'm buying another thinkpad. Probably a T420 or T430. Does the T series support MSATA or M.2? That's pretty much my deal breaker.
>>52358783
T series supports mSATA, yes.
>>52358659
that's good, I have the same specs, I dare not say how much I payed, but it was alot more than $185.
starting CS50 next week and need my quad core t420 battery to last four hours
so I bought a 9 cell off Amazon from a seller that claims they use Samsung cells ($33 shipped prime)
think I'll get four fucking hours out of it?
T520 or T420.. cant decide.
The former remedies the poor screen reputation right?
>>52356368
dude they're like 90 bucks in my 3rd world shithole (Chile)
It's insane
pretty sure the rpi would be cheaper
>>52358949
T520 has a better screen, but the size difference between 14" and 15" Thinkpads is bigger than you might think. 15" Thinkpads are some seriously massive motherfuckers. In terms of portability, my T420 feels like a closer relative to my X220 than it does to my T510.
>>52358874
What is so good about them? i have never owned one. would it play diablo 3 fine?
I need one because i lost my home and all my shit is in storage and i just have smoe shitty laptop with me. and my daughter uses it more than half the time
>>52358858
Okay, wonderful. I already have an mSATA and I was dreading potentially having to buy an M.2 card. Thanks.
>>52356520
Is it really? Not near my t420 but I would be shocked if that was a sticker
>>52358539
Forgive me for being retarded. How do you do this? There isn't an nvidia control panel on this shittop or anything
>>52358659
Make sure it has the 1600x900 panel
>>52359070
You'll need one with the dedicated nvidia graphics if you want to play anything on it. None of the other specs really matter, but I would also strongly recommend finding the 1600x900 screen. If you're in the US, it shouldn't be too hard to find what you're looking for. I got my fully loaded T420 listed with 900p screen, dedicated graphics, and fingerprint reader for $180 shipped.
Sometimes sellers fail to list the dedicated graphics as they can be a bit hard to detect outside of opening the machine or properly installing Windows with drivers, which most sellers don't bother with. You're taking a gamble though and I wouldn't bother unless you really can't find any more specific listings.
>>52359154
What do you know. It IS a sticker. Crafty chinks
>>52353699
I had one of those, actually a pretty nice laptop for what it was. Lasted me about two years before I sold it to someone else.
>>52359208
Then install one
Just bought one Thinkpad
Amazing battery and tough as fuck.
Just one think to keep in mind:
* it comes with a retarded amount of bloatware, like wow, even Samsung (TouchWiz's Samsung, yeah, that one) would tell these fuckers to lay down the bloat.
>>52352363
MSOffice? The fuck? How?
>>52352615
Looks like Asus made a Macbook
>>52353560
Get one with 2 ports instead of 3 so it doesn't stick out the side as much
>>52359465
install gentoo
>>52359598
No I prefer (aka opinion) Windows.
Thank you though.
Going from a X1C3 to an X61T sucks... I lost $500 in selling my X1 Carbons lol, never again.
>>52356151
>http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_sacat=0&_nkw=i7%20E520%20thinkpad&LH_Complete=1&LH_Sold=1&rt=nc&_trksid=p2045573.m1684
Not that hard.
Or, wait for it.. orr..
you could look at the highest priced E520 and sell yours for $10 less!!
>>52355111
Chill, people prefer other ways.
>no rolling ball mouse
They are weird to use
>>52358077
This is what I found
http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?t=88431
http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?p=531042#p531042
Good luck
>>52352808
be aware, that mouse on Linux creates a new joystick device which interferes with HDAPS if you are using it for autorotation on Tablets.
>>52351145
>Missed a x220 for $20 buy it now
FUCK
>>52360109
How/why?
>>52358411
Repaste your CPU and GPU and use TPFanControl if you're not already. Repasting the T420 is relatively easy, I would even call it a pleasant job. Just follow the hardware maintenance manual to the letter and keep track of your screws and you shouldn't have any problems. Set TPFanControl to manual on a low setting, I usually use 3. It barely makes any noise but keeps temps down nicely. Jack it up to the max when you're under heavy load and you shouldn't ever see temps over 80C.
Lenovo T430s Laptop
Make model: 2355-C32
Intel Core i7 3520M @ 2.90GHz
8GB RAM
120 GB SSD HD
Guy is asking 250aud
Should i offer lower
>>52359465
Reinstall windows. Install WiFi driver and video driver. That's all I run on a TP
>>52361125
Pretty good unless it's in pieces. But try to see how far he'll go anyway and just take advantage of the fact
>>52351145
got a t420 the hinges seem loose is there some way to tighten
>>52361169
http://imgur.com/a/wCyGg
looks good
but do i really need it
>>52351502
the macbook keyboard doesnt sound that bad
that's probably just his finger nails hitting the keycaps
I do a lot of CAD work and the trackpoint is god tier.
If I am going to get a keyboard for my desktop with a track point, what should I get?
The newer USB rubber dome keyboard or the older RT3200?
Thanks.
>>52359542
Did you even click the link?
Here's the thing: there's a W520 on my local classifieds for about $490 USD. Import tax and customs fees add about another $80-$90 USD if I try to buy off ebay, which is uneconomical as fuck, where the cheapest ones currently up have shitty condition as well.
Its specs are
>i7 2760QM Quad-Core 2.4GHz
>16GB RAM
>500GB hybrid SSD
>Windows 10 that I will downgrade to 7 and dualboot some distro
I'm not sure about the gpu but if it isn't I will try to haggle down the price if it doesn't have it. Should that be the case, I would buy a new mobo from ebay with the 2gb gpu (I want to use it for 3d rendering) and quad core i7.
What are /tpg/'s thoughts about this?
>>52353742
Yep, that's the T60/T61 keyboard.
Sup /tpg/
My fan controller is going nuts when set to "automatic" on acpi. It's running at full speed for no reasons (idle at desktop) so I had to put it back to medium speed via CLI.
It's the first time it's behaving like that, any particular reason?
>>52359013
>15" Thinkpads are some seriously massive motherfuckers
You say that but when I compare it to some 15.6" consumershit it seems to be smaller dimensions somehow.
What is the oldest thinkpad with a 4:3 screen that is capable of displaying 200 pages pdf and editing a 100 pages word document? (Thinkpad x21 or x41? If yes, what distros should I try?) Basically I want to write my thesis on a Thinkpad.
>>52352033
How much better is it with the SSD? I have a 410
>>52358996
I got one for 40 bucks, so happy
Is a T420 HD+ generally worth more than the normal HD variant?
Because I think I just got a HD+ for the same price as a normal HD.
>>52365852
Yes
>>52365606
T420 with SSD here.
5 sec boot time.
File operations (opening large folders /transfering files) are super fast now.
Big programs (Photoshop, Ableton, etc) open much faster.
My laptop is dead silent 90% of the time. (I haven't realised how comfy this is until I got the SSD.)
So basically the SSD meme is true just like the Thinkpad meme. I say go for it. A reputable 120 GB SSD is dirt cheap nowadays and it's supposed to be enough for your OS and programs.
>>52365870
>meme this meme that
fucking kill yourself
>>52365382
just get a t61
>>52365883
Why so salty?? Get a life m8
>>52365923
I want it as cheap as possible. And X series.
>>52365936
X61 then.
>>52365936
>Why so salty?
Because I havent slept in a long time. And you're acting like it isn't basic knowledge that a SSD is much faster than a normal hard drive. I don't know why/when/how thinkpads and SSD's became "memes"
>>52365957
X41 too shit even to run some xfce distro?
>>52366074
slow as shit 4200rpm hard drive
>>52366074
Lubuntu should do decent on it.
>>52351952
T410 is GOAT
I got one for £150 a year ago an its much, much better than any commercial laptop at that price point
Get a cheap SSD and stick the HDD into an ultrabay, great, cheap laptop with a decent screen, good for a laptop keyboard and decent hardware specs
>>52366372
Forgot to mention get the 64bit version so you can have more than 3gb of RAM
>>52362228
anyone?
>3rd-party refurbished T520 for £200
That's better than the used prices I was seeing. Hopefully I'll get some pics from them.
>>52351680
I have this keyboard in my T400. Got it for free from Lenovo about two weeks after ordering the computer new in 2009. I bitched at the customer service rep about the flex in the original being "what I expect from a Dell". This was back when Lenovo actually cared about their product, I guess.
I disagree that this is the best keyboard ever, though. It felt a little mushy to be honest. The one that came with my T410s (and now lives in my W520) is like pure sex. Crisp, solid, great feedback overall. Beats the shit out of the T60/T61 keyboard.
>>52354047
This. The T520/T530 screen is noticeably better than the one in the T420, and the W series screen is better still.
>>52359788
>I lost $500 in selling my X1 Carbons lol, never again
Why the hell did you bother selling it in that case?
>>52366217
>He never got the 7200 RPM Hitachi Travelstar
Is the E-series shit?
>>52366628
>1.8" hard drive
>>52366639
READ THE FUCKING OP
JESUS CHRIST I SWEAR TO GOD HALF OF THE POSTS IN THIS THREAD WOULDN'T EXIST IF PEOPLE TOOK 30 SECONDS TO SKIM THE DAMN POST
>>52366639
Yes.
>>52366663
But I want to know WHY it's shit, if it's shit.
>>52366663
To be fair the OP doesn't go into much detail about used buying beyond the basics like BIOS caps
>>52366683
lurk moar faggot
Did I fuck up, gee?
$300 x230
>WWAN module
>BT
>IPS screen
>180GB Intel 520 SSD
>i7-3520m
>8GB RAM
>illuminated keyboard + thinklight
>9cell battery
>>52366639
I have an E550 at my new office. To be honest, it's not much worse than the T440 I had at my old company. Yeah, WXGA on a 15.6" panel really sucks (why the fuck do businesses keep doing this) but overall the quality of the screen is similar, if not slightly better. The overall quality of the laptop is not appreciably worse than the T440, but it's definitely worse than my pre- xx40 series Thinkpads.
I don't know what the fuck I'm going to do when even the xx30 series is obsolete. If the Thinkpad Classic dies in development, then I really don't see much of a difference between the new ones and Macs. Here's to hoping the T460p is a god damn sexual tyrannosaurus.
>>52366772
Pretty good if it's in good condition
>>52366663
There must be some sort of 1.8" IDE to mSATA converter you can buy for $15-$30.
>>52358539
does the dedicated GPU do anything? how bad would it affect performance if i disable it?
>>52366772
>Did I fuck up, gee?
yes, IPS won't save you.
>>52366798
>WXGA on a 15.6" panel really sucks
what about WQXGA+?
>>52366683
>buyers guide
>>52359208
>>52359408
Or you can go in the BIOS and set graphics to "integrated only". Then your displayport won't work though.
>>52366871
i5 with disabled dedicated GPU reporting. I've noticed no change in graphical performance because the difference between the two cards is pretty insignificant for anything that isn't CAD related. I have however gotten almost double the battery life with fresh 9cell and slice and it runs noticeably cooler
>>52359208
You should be able to do it through the power manager. At least that's what I remember from my T400 running Win 7.
>>52367036
Windows also gets really pissed off if it was operating in dedicated/integrated mode and then gets switched to integrated only.
>>52366945
b-but x230 with i7 is the only laptop I've always wanted.
Now I'm gonna put 16GBs of RAM in it, get rid of WWAN and 2,5inch SSD and get mSATA 128GB Intel 530 SSD + 1TB WD HDD. This will be my dream machine.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-T420-Core-i5-2540-2-6Ghz-320GB-HDD-4GB-RAM-14-TFT-Win-7-Pro-/121856679732?hash=item1c5f395f34:g:Z6AAAOSwKtlWip7y
>essex wide boy
>no returns
>no security screen
>blanked serial number
Am I just being paranoid?
>>52366990
>http://ktgee.net/tpg
Other Series
Unless the deal is excellent, avoid:
R-series
L-series
SL-series
Z-series
Edge/E-series
These are cost-cut versions of ThinkPads which are thicker, are made of lower quality plastics and are less durable. Terrible hinges on the Edge series especially, some Edges have electrical shorting issues.
Where to buy a used thinkpad in Europe?
>>52367809
Ebay has a lot of German, Spanish, UK, companies selling them.
>>52367853
Damn that's expensive, was hoping for a x230 with IPS screen for about 250 euros
>>52367992
don't expect us prices
>>52368137
Why do so many of these companies not accept returns? Is that a red flag?
>>52368169
Because they want to avoid exploiting
Are there any brands with workstations nearly as lasting as TPs?
I've seen people shit talk HP's durability but heard nothing about Dell, no praise nor curse. Just weighing my options
/g/, I need help with my old W500. The right mouse key doesn`t work, could it be because of water damage or a blotched BIOS update?
Botnet memes aside, would there be any benefits from upgrading to windows 10 from 7 on a X220?
>>52368205
>people shit talk HP's durability
What? Elitebooks and Latitudes/Precisons are objectively better than ThinkPads
>>52368245
I find the durability moot when it's far easier to find parts and help for TPs online.
>>52368278
Is it?
I can find pretty much any part I want for any business laptop.
>>52368205
Here's an example of HPs being more durable.
ThinkPads used to have a LCD rollcage, but Lenovo removed it for weight/cost savings after the T400.
HP is still using them.
>>52366772
>tfw I have that exact same machine
>tfw i paid 900 bucks for it
>tfw i've had it just over 2 years
>tfw it's a soldier
>>52368358
The shells of thinkpads ARE some kind of magnesium alloy and function as the rollcage itself.
That's why they're cold to the touch and heat in the sun, because they're metal.
HP's have the metal on the inside but the exterior is plastic.
>>52356810
Its in mint condition, just like my 301
>>52368879
Except the battery, I presume.
>>52368962
Yeah, when I get my spot welder I'm going to replace the cells.
>>52369009
It's in really awesome condition. And that manual, hnnnng
>>52369032
>>52368358
I was disappointed to find out the lid on my X230 was such thin metal it may as well have been crappy plastic. Due to how I normally carry my laptop around in my toolbag I ended up getting damage to the screen in just a few months.
When I ordered a new screen I reinforced the lid with a thin layer of carbon fiber, it seriously increased the stiffness and didn't add more than a couple ounces. Glad there was enough room inside to do that.
>>52369089
That book I have too.
Together with my Win3.1 and OS/2 licenses.
>>52369116
>>52369153
>>52369175
>>52368233
The only memes are the ones who actually believe Win 10 is not botnet.
>>52369153
I wish they keep making laptops keyboards like that.
Fucking sweet.
>>52369300
God it must feel glorious to type on
>>52369329
Laptop's keyboards is one oof the things that are stopping me from getting one.
>>52368825
No, thinkpads use plastic. HP use an aluminium shell.
You clearly haven't used, or know much about either.
>>52369300
>that shitty layout
Nope.
is T420 1600x900?
>>52369832
No, it's 1440000
>>52362228
>>52366416
Here you go bro
http://www.pckeyboard.com/page/category/EnduraPro
These guys are manufacturing keyboards with the original IBM tooling.
>>52369196
>that CD-drive
cute
>>52369555
Sources.
>>52362228
>>52366416
Here you go bro
http://www.pckeyboard.com/page/category/EnduraPro
These guys make the same Model M keyboards that IBM used to make, using the same IBM tooling.
>>52369893
Thanks anon
>>52369977
ThinkPads use CFRP shells with magnesium rollcages inside:
http://blog.lenovo.com/images/legacy/files/2011/07/Lenovo_Voice_Vol5e.pdf
http://www.3ds.com/fileadmin/customer-stories/import/pdf/SIMULIA-Lenovo.pdf
The X series use to be a little different as the outer shell was the rollcage as well, it was made out of magnesium.
Elitebooks have aluminium shells with magnesium rollcages:
http://www.notebookreview.com/notebookreview/hp-elitebook-8560p-review/
I know, I've own a T60, T420, X220 and a HP 8570p. You seem a little on the defensive if someone starts to question the whole 'ThinkPad durability' thing.
>>52362831
Can I have some advice guise?
Buying an L450, 6 cell the way to go yes?
and yes Id prefer a T but its about 2x as expensive here
>>52370069
What's the material of the x230 shell?
>>52370168
Lid is magnesium, top part is plastic for a RF window.
Early X220 lids had a problem where the RF window separated from the lid.
The base is magnesium, it also acts as the rollcage.
>>52370256
According to Lenovo Reference sheets,
the x230 case material is magnesium for the screen shell and bottom, carbon reinforced plastic for the antennas in the to and palmrest and normal plastic for the batery cases.
My laptop is a x230, hence my defensiveness when you said it was plastic (you were talking in general, I was too, my bad also).
I find it pretty durable 2bh.
>>52370322
And regarding the T430 for comparison:
Display cover
>carbon fiber/glass fiber hybrid
Bottom shell
>carbon fiber reinforced plastic
>>52370322
>>52370358
T61 still top for build quality. :^)
The downside of the elitebooks are the weight, metal chassis will always be heavier.
>>52365965
Not him. They became memes when someone started saying 'lol muh thinkpad' or 'lol ssd aren't secure', unfortunately.
>>52368817
after the cleanup of an old thermal compound
Man, this laptop is the best machine I've ever owned. I've had x230 with i5 and standard screen before and the i7 + IPS was exactly what I needed.
Uninstalling windows fucks with lenovo warranty?
>>52370712
No?
Lmao, you must be retarded to even think that way.
Is there anything else needed other than formatting/reinstalling the OS that's recommended when I receive my T420?
>>52371042
installing modded BIOS (oleh's BIOS)
>>52371042
Wipe the fucker down with isopropyl alchohol.
Check BIOS for password and computrace
My Acer is dying.
What's a nice powerful yet not a concrete slab laptop like a ThinkPad, Elitebook or whatever?
Would an X60 be able to watch a Twitch stream (specifically through VLC+Livestreamer) or is that too much for a 10yr old laptop?
I'd like to use a Libreboot machine and that's probably the most intensive thing I'd use it for.
>>52371284
>acer
next step. Macbook
>>52372024
But that's lots of cash and I'm a poor student.
I have like $600 to spend if this thing breaks down.
>>52369832
yes with the HD+ panel. Standard version, no
>>52372054
Sucks to be a consumershitter then
Buy a used ideapad y50 so you can play your gaymes on it too
>>52371989
I use my T60 in tandem for my T61p to watch multiple streams (fuck multitwitch and twitch in general)
Resolution and sound sucks on my T60 (bless my 15.1" T61p's res and sound) but they're workable on medium with some lag on high and source. I doubt the X60's CPU can handle high or source though but medium/low should definitely be doable, and it might get pretty hot after a while
>>52372463
barnacles. thanks for the info
What Loonix OS is best for a Thinkpad T60?
Just received my $99 X201 to complement my older T60.
Man I love these things.
Thanks for the guide and regular discussion fellers.
>>52372685
Install gentoo
Or go full freetard with trisquel after flashing libreboot
My T60 is getting a little grimey. They keys and touchscreen are all shiny with my oils and shit.
Is there a good solution to restore the original plastic or should I replace everything?
>>52369943
>no middle click
i might as well quit now
>>52371042
2nd hdd for ultrabay?
feeling risky you could upgrade your screen to 900p if it isn't already
W530 or W520?
Keyboard does not count!
thinkpad or dell latitude
>>52373595
Too bad faggot. W520 because non chiclet
...otherwise the W530 is a relatively identical chassis with improved battery life and faster everything
Just avoid the 1366x768 ones like aids
What's the FRU for the least shit X220 IPS panel?
>>52358565
>2030
>not buying a ThinkPad
Why is the 11e more expensive than the rest of the E series?
What's the cheapest way to add usb3 to my elitebook 2560p? It has esata and express card.
>>52373899
http://x220.mcdonnelltech.com/
