Why don't you use OS X? Be honest.
windows works fine for me
also don't feel like buying an overpriced computer just to try out a new os
But I do
>>52333266
>overpriced
Macbook Pros have shit weak wifi. I switched to Surface Pro 3 and I'm much happier.
>>52333244
I don't have an apple.
>>52333244
windows: very usable, nonfree
linux: less usable, free
os x: less usable, nonfree
>>52333277
>Not over priced
http://www.apple.com/shop/buy-mac/imac?product=MK452LL/A&step=config#
>Integrated graphics card
>5400rpm hdd
>$1500.00 price point
>$200.00 to upgrade 8gb of Ram.
Yep, try and defend it. Go ahead.
>>52333244
Poverty. Otherwise I'd have a mac just to have a complete set of the major OSes.
>>52333244
it only werks on crap hardware (macs)
>>52333244
Atleast with a normal laptop I have the choice of windows, GNU/Linux., BSD* dual/tripple boot
I honestly can't imagine why I wouldn't use Linux if I was going to switch to something that isn't Windows.
I am right now on a Macbook Pro and to be honest... i really don't like OSX... I just bought this thing cuz i thought i'am gonna get some work done... but i realized i could do it with other OS too and for far less money.
OS X does not runs stable on my side as Windows or Linux.
Honest opinion from a Mac user since 2005.
>>52333360
>what is hackintosh
>>52333244
I do not support what Apple stands for, and how they take fools for a ride, so I do not buy anything from them.
>>52333337
>those hdd prices
Jesus, I knew Apple fags liked a good prostate cleaning...but christ
>>52333380
>using something with hack in the name as your main desktop OS
>>52333244
I like games
I'm used to Windows. I could try the Hackintosh route if I really wanted.
>>52333244
Because /v/.
OS X "just werks" and blows windows out of the water on some, probably even most things that the average user would touch, but it horrendous on anything beyond that. I would describe it as a wildly uneven experience--very high highs but very low lows.
>>52333380
Have fun when you ever want to update anything.
>>52333396
>imagine being at computers
>>52333425
>so fat you look and see food
>>52333421
It updates seamlessly through the app store. No need for nvidia web drivers update or any tinkering with the clover bootloader. It just werks.
>>52333337
>>52333244
1) I'm not a gimp
2) What are games (that use other than the source engine)?
3) all varieties of OSX put together have a smaller market share than XP a decade after XP was released
>>52333365
>Bootcamp
Macs can dual boot windows, and with some hoop jumping linux too
>>52333489
I paid like $70 for my 16 GB in my desktop. And $80 for my 250 GB SSD
>>52333415
Where is it horrendous? It's just a bit different from Windows, but you can probably do anything you'd do in Windows. Please elaborate on those lows.
>>52333337
>buying an iMac
>ever
Everyone knows that only iPhones and rMBPs are worth the money
>>52333244
bud i do
>>52333295
windows very useable? mac less useable than windows? bro, you might be a dumbass. you might be used to garbage. it's not very useable because you know how to navigate every last convoluted piece of shit menu. because you were never financially able to switch. because you're happy in your half-functioning comfort zone. those are not valid reasons. basically, you're a goddamn loser and you need to stop sharing your shitty opinions cause they're trash.
>>52333244
Hackintosh my race reporting in.
>>52333244
but I am?
Together with an external trackpad it's pretty much the best configuration you could ask for. If you wanna gaym or use windows software you can always dual boot cause
>hackintosh master race
>>52333421
thanks! it was very fun.
>download and install update
>install web driver again ( not even always)
Wow so hard
>>52333421
With the Clover bootloader, updates work fine. Literally all you have to do is update the nvidia drivers (and it does that for you.) my Hackintosh install actually works better than my windows install
no power pc support
#rekd
>>52333492
I rarely play games, but I still have more steam games on OS X than most of my friends who all use windows
One of them is gonna install OS X soon though, Win 10 pushed him over the edge
1 to expensive
2 don't run games
3 Windows and Linux work fine
>>52333390
LOL
>512gb SSD
>$500.00
You can get those for like $200.00. Jesus christ apple fags.
>>52333521
yes, but you've still paid well over the odds ( its sitting around 3x the price atm isnt it?)
for what you could do with a dual-boot winux box (that, if you paid the same for, would be more powerful in every respect)
Cause I don't think I need what Apple gives to you with Os X. Windows fits well on my pc.
>>52333492
>hurr durr market share
You realize this is /g/ right? The majority of these niggers use Linux. You think market share matters to anyone? Now go download Windows 10 and Google Chrome
>>52333541
the iPod touch is still unchallenged in its field
>>52333541
iPads are better value than iPhones
>>52333610
>Windows 10 pushed him over the edge
nah, he was probably just came out about his homosexuality naturally.
>>52333244
It just werks until you try to use it.
>>52333590
forgot pic
>>52333365
Enjoy your future "normal" laptops with Secure Boot bro
>>52333610
source games only count as one
>>52333657
Its field is basically dead now. People just use their phones for music.
>>52333578
i'm sure it's usable for normies like you :^) i can't handle the dumbed down everything.
and yeah, i could afford a mac, i just don't want one. my GPUs probably cost more than your laptop-tier hardware.
>>52333578
Sorry SENPAI just reverse Mac and windows and the same argument can be used against you.
>>52333244
I don't think it's worth the money over linux or even windows.
Why would I?
doesn't support vt-d afaik
>>52333541
What the fuck is a rMBP
>>52333722
It's free
>>52333741
Retina Macbook pro
I do. It is GOAT laptop os.
>>52333741
Retina MacBook Pro
>>52333747
>pic related
>>52333774
>>52333755
So an Apple laptop
>>52333244
I can only speak from 10 minute experience, but OS X feels incredibly stiff, unresponsive, desperately lacking in hotkeys and it has a lot of questionable choices that would take me weeks to months to get used to (close doesn't close application?)
>>52333709
translation: i'm a goddamn failure that derives self-worth from having state-of-the-art hardware to piss my shit life away with
disgusting
>>52333741
right Mouse Button Press
>>52333654
it does still matter, because developers work to what can get to the most people, thats why gaming died on mac for like all of the noughties and why new programs of all kinds will still support XP even though it is comically out of date
>>52333370
professional software like ps
>>52333337
>5400rpm
>2016 the current year
Gee Apple sure is innovative.
>>52333590
>external trackpad
Is there any actual advantage to using a Mac over an equally specced regular laptop for running OSX? Serious question.
>>52333949
Nope
>>52333935
I'd even buy one for the scrolling alone. The whole multi-gestures like swiping between full-screen apps and switchen between tabs in safari is just godsent. It's actually that good
it's obviously not good for photoshop/other precision work
>>52333949
you get to show off how much money you have to waste to all your douchbag liberal/hipster friends
>>52333949
The touchpad.
It's the only thing Apple ever did right.
Can't disable mouse acceleration
No option for folders first
.DS_Store all over the fucking place
No per application volume control
>>52333997
>>52334014
Well this one friend of mine seriously bought a mac, he insisted that the proprietary hardware inside is somehow more optimized for running OSX and nothing else is
>>52334016
No buttons? Barf.
>>52334054
>>52333949
Well yeah it's optimized in that you won't get kernel panics or have to manually upgrade your kexts/drivers and you'll get great battery life. I definitely wouldn't recommend making a hackintosh laptop cause it's just a pain in the ass.
Desktop Hackintosh or Macbook pro are the only viable just twerks options.
>>52333949
First party software support is the biggest one I can think of, the drivers coupled with Apple hardware are a big reason for the battery life being so good on Macs. Not to mention stability, this is no slight against third party kernel modules but the risk is always there that your system could be come unbootable with a software update.
Why is it every time I receive a zip file from a mac user I get a _MAC folder or something.
Is this not something that they can disable or do they have to do this?
>>52333244
overpriced shit, I can cover all my tasks with ubuntu or win 7+.
>>52334054
yes, but its optimised because osx and the hardware exist in a closed system, they stick to a tiny variety of parts so that they can test it thuroghly on all the possible systems it can be run on
it doesn't mean those parts are of comparable performance to equivalently priced pc parts
good for grandmas and meatheads, not so good for anyone that knows how to deal with pc hardware quirks
>poorfags jelly they aren't using os x right now
>>52333813
Why the fuck would closing a window close the application as well?
>>52334191
Because that is the Windows way (TM)
>>52334168
It's the same reason you see desktop.ini and thumbs.db from Windows users, its their file browsers meta data.
>>52334175
How is optimal performance of particular hardware not good for everyone? I wish all drivers were this tight.
>>52333813
>desperately lacking in hotkeys
vim shortcuts (ctrl+a for beginning of line) work system-wide
>>52333813
>desperately lacking in hotkeys
As a Windows user I did not get this impression at all, it seems like every application has their tasks mapped out including Aqua or whatever it's called now. It was something that stuck with me when evaluating it, I really liked how easily it could be driven with a keyboard.
>>52333935
really though, I wouldn't do that if I was using windows, but a trackpad works better for most things on OS X
>>52334232
because the hardware itself is inferior for the price, its like an automatic gearbox in a car, yes its harder to mess up, but you only settle for it cause you cant handle the big-boy responsibility of a clutch
>>52334054
The entire thing is a button
>>52334022
>No option for folders first
More accurately, Finder is a steaming pile full stop. It's the worst component of OS X by a wide, wide, margin. How they haven't fixed it yet is a mystery to me.
>>52334212
but windows users are capable of turning that shit off, why aren't mac users?
>>52334344
Did you Google it? I don't know. Maybe they can and some of them don't, obviously you're only going to notice it when they don't.
>>52334191
Why not? I'm done with an application so I close it, done. If not I just minimize it. Not a problem unless you're a clumsy user that clicks the wrong things all the time
>>52334341
Wait, seriously? 20 year old OSes have had that feature
>>52334401
>muh windows idioms
>>52334344
because windows users know how to use an options menu (or even HAVE an options menu)
>>52334390
If you're done with the application close the application, if you're done with the window close the window. That makes more sense to me. Your method sounds more clumsy.
>>52333244
Cause im not to stupid to use another os, nor a hipster
>>52334401
Which bit of "Finder is a steaming pile" confused you?
>>52334180
It's pretty easy to get OSX running on a normal Intel PC.
>>52333657
Which is basically dead now.
As far as playing music goes:
1) everyone uses their phones
2) the iPod classic was better at it with 160GB of storage
>>52334442
>if you're done with the window close the window
Meanwhile you have the application taking up RAM while it's doing nothing.
I'm done viewing this document, so I close the window. I'm done with my word processor, so I also have to close the program. That's also clunky. You turned what could have been one action into two actions.
>>52333244
who's that girl man?
>>52334514
see, i just dont get that:
1) why would you drain your phones battery like that
2) my ipod has way more memory than my phone
3) touch beats wheely pods on videos and books
>>52334555
not a girl
I do use it, it isn't bad, it's quite functional. It's just that their computers are godawful and overpriced.
>>52334554
You're the one turning it into 2 actions, if you're done with both just close the application. You wanna talk about wasting RAM, how about running 2 instances of the same program just to have 2 windows up.
You really shouldn't form your judgments based on assumptions.
>>52334004
I used to like the Safari back/forward gesture, but then I realised that Cmd+[ and Cmd+] works a lot faster since there's no pointless animation.
>>52334554
>Meanwhile you have the application taking up RAM while it's doing nothing.
Oh no! Not RAM!
>>52334472
The part where I'm expressing surprise like a regular non-autistic being
>>52334554
>can't remember to close something
>blames the OS
kek
do you blame your car manufacturer for not automatically locking your doors when you close them?
>>52333244
I can't stand the design direction Jony Ive is going since Steve Jobs' death.
Jobs was needed to tell him when he's being a fucking moron.
Now we have the Airbook.
Also aluminium reacts badly with my sweat.
>>52334554
What about programs that don't need a UI all the time like media players or network services? You're wasting more RAM on the UI elements by just minimizing them, why not just close the window?
>>52333578
Someone's trying to rationalize their puuuuuurchase
>>52334718
>wasting more RAM
Its not like your OS wouldn't put unused assets in memory into swap/page-file....
What NintenDon't
>>52334683
>Also aluminium reacts badly with my sweat
Holy shit, I thought I was the only one.
My old MBP had black spots where I would rest my wrist, near the trackpad. It has since died for unrelated reasons, and since getting a new one, I have tried to touch it as little as possible.
>>52334756
People over-estimate how useful swapping is in this day and age of 8GB+ RAM. Most systems do not need to swap anywhere near as much as they used to.
>>52333244
>walled garden
>shitty company
>shitty choices
>apparently has the worst filesystem ever made
>user base is literally the lowest of the low in tech literacy
>>52334683
>>52334792
>Having bodily fluids that corrode aluminum
>>52333244
i do
>>52334554
Why would I open an application to view a document?
I do edit a lot of word files throughout the day though, but not at the same time. Its better to have the application still running when I close a document so that I don't have to wait for word to start every time I open a new one, it just opens right away. Besides, if you want to close the application there's no reason to close the window first
>>52334239
apologies for being contrary, but a ctrl+a going to beginning of line sounds more like readline/emacs keybinding.
C^a in my vim increments the number under the cursor (or, I think, if no number under cursor, the first number vim can find to the right of the cursor)
Buuut yes, readline/emacs I think is what you meant :)
cheers
>>52333244
>heterochromia
Ugh, that's so fucking creepy and unsettling. I don't know how people think it's cute or something.
And this is comming from someone who dated a girl with a forked tongue and loved it.
>>52333244
I don't want to. It's pretty much as simple as that. The price doesn't deter me as I easily spend thousands on computer equipment, so the "Apple tax" isn't an argument I use against them.
I just have literally no interest in OS X.
>>52334554
>close window and then quit program are two separate functions that must be done in this order
Or you could just hit cmd q and you both close the program and the window in one single action.
The whole reason Close Window and Quit App are separate is because of app load times. You want to sit through the Word splash screen every time you X out of the only .docx window on your screen, to open up another .docx file? Fuck no.
It has its uses and can still function exactly like Windows.
>>52333629
It's flash, it's basically a big sd card, so it's slower than an ssd.
>>52334866
>>52334866
A quick Google shows we're not the only ones.
I don't know what exactly causes it though; at a guess it's from the heat under the palmrest.
Doesn't happen with my stainless steel watch.
Because I don't suck THAT much cock.
>>52334866
aluminium is fairly reactive, and its rust-equivilent can be worn away by basic friction
>>52334900
I usually think heterichromia is pretty cute desu, but the girl in the op just looks weird. Looks like one of her eyes is slightly larger than the other.
Honestly for light browsing I would buy a MacBook if I wasn't poor
>>52334881
>not falling for the ssd meme
>>52334955
>slower
Flash-based doesnt mean SD card anon. It means it's not stored on magnetic media. Almost all SSDs are NAND flashbased.
The SSDs in rMBPs are a proprietary NVMe SSDs. Say what you will about price, theyre just as fast as m2 SSDs.
>>52334900
depends which colours they have, if they have different sized irises and, if one eye is brown, if oe of their eyes matches their hair or not
blondes and gingers look much better than brunetes
and blue/green looks much better than brown/anything
>>52333244
I'm a gaymer, mac are overpriced
>>52334898
my mistake, appreciate the correction
>oh look it's a generic pretty girl pic in /g/
>heterochromia
HNNNNNNNNNNNNNNG
Tbh I'm a developer and don't do anything but program and browse the web, so Linux is good tier for me
>>52333244
Its shit, your thread is shit, your bait is shit, you should end yourself.
>>52333244
Its counterintuitive for me
>>52334866
Perfect use of that picture
I laughed
>>52333244
This is a technology board. Fuck off to facebook mac fags.
>>52333244
>doesn't have snapping
>uses dock
it's like you don't want to have good window management and use screen estate efficiently
>>52333244
I have a mac and I never use it...
>>52334431
>muh buyers remorse
>>52335475
>baby duck
>>52335339
This. I have a 2012 13" MBA and most of the time I'm either using my iPhone or using my custom PC.
>>52333610
I'm probably going to be one of those "Win 10 pushed him off the edge" people assuming what I'm hearing about Wangblows 10 is true, do you have any idea if a hackintosh requires anything super specific as far as hardware goes?
>>52333610
>>52333590
>>52333581
If you guys can answer or provide a link that'd be cool
For reference my desktop build is:
Intel i7-4770K
AMD Radeon HD7770
16 GB RAM
Asrock z87 pro3 mobo
focusrite Scarlett 2i4 USB
(forgot my wifi card but I think it's a rosewill)
why can't i press a hotkey and lock my macbook without shutting it off?
why can't i close it and keep it running?
>>52335558
>difference for difference's sake
>>52334955
Not sure if trolling.
>>52335595
But people have been sorting alphabetically forever, Windows started the directory trend. I honestly don't get it since I use a file index to get what I need on any OS anyway. I'm not going to manually jump through directories when I can just jump n levels deep to any directory I know the name of in a few clicks.
Video related, don't ignore the shitty fucking Windows 10 bug that happens when you enable multi proc explorer that still isn't fucking fixed holy shit I am mad.
>>52335581
>why can't i press a hotkey and lock my macbook without shutting it off?
http://osxdaily.com/2011/01/17/lock-screen-mac/
>why can't i close it and keep it running?
If you have a monitor (set to mirror laptop screen), keyboard, and mouse plugged in, I'm pretty sure it stays "awake"
>>52333244
I use it at work
But I use linux at home and I prefer it to OSX. They're similar, but Linux just edges it out on certain usability areas for me (e.g. built-in version of Spectacle, better workspaces, etc, better command line, etc)
That being said, I like OSX
b-but i am anon :^)
>>52335156
Heterochromia is shit
Shit the salt coming from macfags in this thread is real. I don't use macs cause I don't like them. What more is there to say.
>>52333824
You own a Mac faggot just shut the fuck up before you hurt yourself on this barebones-ui website.
A lot of the software i use is mostly mac, and I have Windows 8 installed on another HD for the programs i need Windows for.
Mac also has native CoreAudio support, making a shit ton of things for me just plug and play. No drivers, nothing.
OS X is also free, they don't charge money for it. The Macs are overpriced, i agree there. But that being said, you are paying for quality parts, and Macs typically last longer than similar Windows counterparts.
Honestly, why can't everyone just use what they fucking want? What does it matter to you guys who uses what system?
>>52333244
I
cannot
justify
paying
the
amount
of
money
for
the
package
they
offer.
Therefore, buy machine with Winblows and format it with GNU/Linux on arrival.
>>52333244
Because I already use Linux for my personal computing and Windows for my gaming, OSX isn't superior in either of these regards. Furthermore it's only officially supported on a very limited amount of hardware that doesn't suit my needs.
>>52333295
this in a nutshell, os x is a really bad os based on more outdated technologies than either windows or linux and they're pretty bad as well. even apple realizes this and is working on replacing a lot of the more important subsystems in os x; maybe in a decade or so it might be better but right now it's not very good
>>52333244
I'm Heterosexual.
>>52333949
The thing about "equally specced laptops" is that they are around the same price range as the macbook retinas themselves.
>>52336241
>OS X is also free, they don't charge money for it.
You're not wrong and I don't think Apple is either for doing it but they totally overprice on their hardware for that reason. SUN more or less did the same and I think the same was true for many consumer commercial Unix and UNIX systems of their era, Apple just happens to be the only one of those left.
>But that being said, you are paying for quality parts, and Macs typically last longer than similar Windows counterparts.
This is something people never seem to consider and I don't know why. People always pull up speclists but never factor in things like the board design or the chassis itself, same with the screens, Apple displays have been something of merit for multiple years prior to them directing it at end users with their retina marketing.
That being said I still think they're a bit high, of good quality but high. I really can't blame them for being as competitive as they are with their history of being fucked for being open and nearly going bankrupt multiple times, I don't need to repeat the fact they're the last real contender in end user consumer Unix systems too, the others are all dead for their more liberal business approaches. I'm not saying that's a good thing but I understand it.
>>52336432
you must be pretty on the fence about being a heterosexual if using a different computer OS would put you over the edge. I can't imagine any device I use - laptop, desktop, whatever - pushing me toward the dick-sucking camp.
but hey, it's great you're honest with yourself or whatever.
>>52336514
Entry level Apple shit is terrible, would not buy. And you can't upgrade that yourself. They are pretty much forcing you to buy expensive shit, it's the people who buy low level apple products for stupid prices that are plebs and give the rest of us a bad name.
But for $3000-$4000 you can buy some pretty good shit. But again, who wants to spend that much on a computer? Pros buy that shit for work.
That's why i got a Mac Pro tower, not the trash can. I can take anything in and out of it, change everything inside. It's great.
my 12 cores, the motherboard and cooling is stock. Anything else you can change. And god damn, is it fucking NEAT inside.
>>52336579
God damn that looks like a real ass future computer, my dick.
>>52336579
I love the Mac Pro tower, it truly is a well thought product. All the cards and storage and inserted directly into the motherboard, there is no loss of speed due to cable bottlenecks. I can have up to 6 hard drives in it, and that's not counting the PCI-E drives. Up to 128Gb of RAM. It's a killer machine.
Only thing is, the tower is fucking heavy. The new trashcan is good, but...everything becomes external. Fuck that. You can't move it without disconnecting everything, more areas of failure with all the cables, plus ALL the ports are at the back?? What the fuck...
>>52336579
I wish case and motherboard manufacturers would work together to create cable-free/reduced cable cases like this, so cable management isn't even necessary
>>52336636
Yes, but that's the thing. With Windows, you have no control of the software/hardware shit like this. Apple hand picks it's hardware that works best with the software, and if what's on the market doesn't suit their needs, they...build it themselves. Like the Mac Pro.
I don't want to sound like an Apple shill, they just have/had a few very successful products, and i think the Mac Pro tower is one of them.
>>52334683
>>52334792
Interesting fact, it's the aluminum oxide, the stuff they put in antiperspirants that reacts with your skin. Aluminum forms a very thin layer of aluminum oxide on the outer surface because it oxidises in contact with the oxygen in air (it is resume m reactive after all)
Also I read somewhere aluminum oxide is responsible for causing Alzheimer's in old age.
>>52336241
>OS X is also free
Not when you cant get it for anything besides a Mac
>>52335563
check the reddit hackintosh sub or tony86 you lazy fuck
>>52335801
>http://osxdaily.com/2011/01/17/lock-screen-mac/
Puts the display to sleep.
>If you have a monitor (set to mirror laptop screen), keyboard, and mouse plugged in, I'm pretty sure it stays "awake"
What if I'm running a vm, and would rather not keep the laptop open to keep the vm running? Every other laptop on the planet allows this.
>>52336863
That's just flatout not true.
>>52336863
If you are paying zero dollars for it, it's free
>>52336906
Appreciated asslick <3 , didn't know what resource(s) was reliable.
>>52336992
I'd recommend clover because it's way easier customizing shit for your build since every build is different.
In the end it's really worth it if you use the stuff I do
>trackpad gestures
>timemachine
>coreaudio
>logic x
other shit I'm too lazy to write down
>>52333244
because its as useless as linux.
