What does Linux do that Windows can't?
>>52325854
works
>>52325865
I'm using Windows 10 right now and it's working fine.
>>52325854
Ruin your life: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Qj8p-PEwbI
Xfce
Serve you and only you, rather than serve some hostile company at the cost of you.
>>52325854
Automatically sends """survey""' data about the applications you use to the GNU headquarters.
>>52325891
>>52325917
Uh huh. Aside from your own personal principal reasons, what does it actually do that Windows can't? In practice, I mean. Day to day improvements for a non-technical (no coding knowledge, no deep hardware knowledge) user? I'm waiting.
Be free
>>52325943
Uh huh. Aside from your own personal financial reasons, what does it actually do that Windows can't? In practice, I mean. Day to day improvements for a non-technical (no coding knowledge, no deep hardware knowledge) user? I'm waiting.
>>52325929
Gives me access to my hardware. Doesn't charge me money. Works a lot faster than Windows saving me time. Provides me with a secure environment, with less risk of malware and viruses. Don't you know all this already?
Cure you of being a fun, happy, sociable and emotionally stable member of society.
>>52325964
You're confusing free beer with freedom in your post, a common mistake.
>>52325854
Control your own computer
Much faster than windows especially on an SSD. Free from corporations.
Proper customization
Proper control
Proper virtual desktops
Proper package repository
Proper multi-system deployment
Proper commandline-interface (lel remote desktop)
Proper filesystem (what is journaling?)
Choices
Freedom
No surveillance
No cashgrabs
No integrated malware
Doesn't buttrape you with sudden "subject to software counterfeiting".
>>52326026
>Free from corporations
This is not a valid reason.
Wastes time. You use Linux when you want your PC to be a hobby/toy.
>>52326049
Also: No "I just need to install this tiny bit of software from freewarez.biz"-mentality
>>52326005
To be fair, anon, you did just say 'free' so it's understandable that he would be confused. Say gratis or libre instead to avoid stupidity.
>>52326074
It's not true either if you look at the email alises that account for 95% of kernel and core userland.
Actually have a functioning reasonable to use shell with people having made scripts for it for just about any task.
>>52326077
It's much easier to do something in ubuntu than windows for someone with no experience of computers. Anyone who have a parent or grandparent with windows get hundreds of technical problems every month and they get no problems at all if they use something like ubuntu.
Esier to use, no chance of malware, nothing breaks and it is super stable. Things break in windows all the time for seemingly no reason and need a restart with every update, which is why they use debian on the space station and not windows.
>>52326077
xubuntu has saved me time
it's quicker and easier to program on and I don't do any fiddling with the OS because it just werks
>>52326077
>Wastes time. You use Linux when you want your PC to be a hobby/toy.
What even? I changed from wangblows to gentoo full time a year ago and my productivity remains unchanged. In fact, I have got more time than before, since installing software boils down to executing 'sudo emerge softwarename' and there is no instability whatsoever.
It's also more secure, and freetype + infinality + patched poppler + fontconfig-ultimate make for the absolute best font rendering ever. The only thing that's slightly lacking is (radeon) GPU performance, but the gap is not even that massive nowadays and gets smaller with each release.
It does make me sandwiches (linux robot)
>>52326112
Nah, I set my relative's labtop up with Linux Mint. They can use it no problem. The same was true of windows. Unity made their head spin. If someone else sets it up for them, most people that just casually check email and facebook can get by on either. The problems start cropping up when you need to use specific software.
Malware will work on Linux just as easily as on Windows. There is just a lower risk because less Malware is written for Linux, as Linux is way less popular. However, it does still exist.
Dude, things break in Linux all the time. We aren't talking about space stations, we are talking about Desktops.
>>52326146
You realize that windows has similar solutions, right? Look up chocolatey.
>>52325929
Who the fuck cares about non-technical fags.
They just need some facebook shitting machine, and don't give a fuck about anything else.
A better question would be what windows can do linux can't?
Why would any sane person use windows?
If you get paid a lot of money to do so, then I can see a reason, but as a personal computer?
People would only use it because someone forced it upon them when they bought the computer.
Being a proper server
>>52326183
>chocolatey
Why even bother comparing it?
>>52326191
By non-technical users I mean anyone who doesn't program or worry about being "spied on".
>>52326194
Run industry standard software, play games, and have better hardware compatibility.
>>52326077
If you're like me and the software you use is available for GNU/Linux, I can install it in far less time, and use it without thinking about it or the OS bothering me.
In comparison Windows will pester you for updates, and upgrades to 10 which it will download in the background for you, pretty much any AV software you use will annoy you, Flash will annoy you, and then you just want the computer to shut down but nope it decided that now is the time to install them updates.
>Ctrl+C Ctrl+V in the terminal
>Package manager
>Respect your privacy and freedoms
>Not ask you every other day if you want to switch to Wangblows 10
>Have a terminal that can actually do something
>>52326203
Still don't give a shit, shouldn't dumb it down for them, we should expect more of them
>>52326086
Is that you, Richard?
>>52326183
Not him, but last I checked Chocolatey was shit. Did it improve?
>>52325854
It's free as in freedom and beer
Nothing else. Except those two Windows offers even more.
>Linux users are programmers
Not really. Its just that those who care about trying another OS are usually the ones who are interested in programming too. You can just as well learn it in Windows. You can try Linux out of curiosity but unless you are some socialist faggot who hates corporate you are likely to go back.
>>52326245
If you died I'd be happy.
>>52326259
And if you did, I wouldn't care. Go back to Redmond winfag.
>>52326222
>If you're like me and the software you use is available for GNU/Linux,
That's a big IF and has nothing to do with what I said. Plus no one really cares if it takes 11 seconds to install instead of 10.
>>52326250
I don't know what your issue with it was. At least from when I started trying it out, it never seemed to be any worse than apt-get or yum.
>>52326146
>since installing software boils down to executing 'sudo emerge softwarename' and there is no instability whatsoever.
And installing on windows involves clicking the setup file and next a few times. Jesus, are you too simple to install something on windows?
>>52326203
>doesn't care about being spied on.
This is the interesting development.
They conversation has shifted from why should I not have free speech to why should I care about surveillance?
I get it. "most people" don't use the essential freedoms like freedom of speech, freedom to gather, or freedom to share ideas so they think it doesn't apply to them.
But the reason it applies to everyone is that WHEN you need it, you should be able to communicate securely without the man in the middle attack (facebook).
You should be able to run your applications on your computer without signing up for a service.
You should be able to study, share, improve and use the applications on your system.
Even if you don't actively use these freedoms, taking them away from everyone is harmful to humanity.
>>52326333
No one cares tho. You lost.
>>52326252
>>52325854
It has support for older hardware.
Try running Windows 10 on old-ass PC's
It's also more secure in the right hands because you could review the source code (when installing from source) or use the package manager which in most distros downloads from repositories with thoroughly inspected software. One doesn't really need to run antivirus software on Linux like one must on Windows.
It also stores files such that one won't have to defrag which is a nice bonus.
In the end it's still just an OS. With advantages and disadvantages. I personally like it because I don't have to worry as much about viruses, I don't do any heavy gaymen, and because I'm intererested in learning more about computers. Others have different needs therefore have different preferences and I can respect that.
>>52326307
Yes but when installing some obscure software by exe you have to review to make sure you're not getting some POS adware on your computer that is a potential pain in the ass to remove.
>>52326373
>It also stores files such that one won't have to defrag which is a nice bonus.
You just need to defrag, just far less often. You'll still need to defrag any NTFS partitions too. Also Defraging is a non-issue on windows now, since it does it automatically in the background.
>>52326404
I stand corrected then, thank you for telling me.
>>52326213
>better hardware compatibility
Windows 7 and before still don't have a proper process scheduler for bulldozer era CPUs, causing some significant performance problems for the entire generation of chips. And because Microsoft refuses to release an sp2 for 7, only 8 and up have an appropriate scheduler.
Windows only got modern Bluetooth capabilities in 10 like for instance allowing an audio sink to have multiple sources.
Windows still doesn't have generic mtp support without downloading a driver
Windows doesn't have USB tethering without installing a driver package from the mfg site.
Windows can't support virtual resolutions if the driver doesn't provide a utility to set it
Windows can't support plugging >3 screens into a single gpu unless you use a hack like eyefinity.
Windows simply does not support promiscuous mode in networking hardware (server versions might)
>>52326486
>without downloading a driver
I stopped reading right there because I was laughing at you too hard.
>>52326511
How's CNET treating you?
>>52326528
>responding to a tripfag
>ever
Tards.
He's baiting because he wishes he knew how to use Linux.
Fox and the grapes.
>>52325854
>AUTOCAD
>U
>T
>O
>C
>A
>D
Oh wait I thought you said Linux couldn't do.
Oh well.
It really depends what os you have been using and whether you can be asked to relearn it if it pays off in the end. For casual computing needs, some mainstream softwares, media editing and games windows is just plain more suitable, with less meddling, hassle, emulators and crap like that.
If you're interested to delve into computers, programming, trying new things and are bored of windows, Linux is for you. You can dual boot both
>>52325854
-Being easy to maintain
-Easier automatisation of routine tasks
-Easier to costumize for some workflows
Of course you can still use Win95 if you just want to browse kikebook or your
'work' requires office
>>52326486
Continued
Windows only started spring gpt since 8, a decade after Linux and osx
Windows can't install to any disk other than the first one on the first bus controller
Windows has to reinstall a driver each time you move a USB device to a different port
Windows supports an arbitrary limit on ram in a system, orders of magnitude less than the 64bit limit
>>52326560
Oops, didn't realize. No generic mtp support is pretty shitty considering all windows phones use it, and all android since 4 do too. That's a different driver for every single device, most of which are newer than your computer so the driver isn't available in the microwave repo for that os
>>52326183
> labtop
>>52325854
Keeps pretty much everything in space functioning, Windows excels at oil disasters. Pun intended.
>>52326345
good job selling the human race you fucking traitor.
>>52325854
It can run all of my required software while taking less than 8GB of disk space.
Also for free without pirating any software.
Also it boots in 20 secs from my hard drive and shuts down in less than 5 while my windows 10 laptop shuts down for 2-3 minutes.
Also it loads DotA 2 and CS:GO quicker than windows, and the games dont crash randomly like on windows.
Also it lets me emulate an xbox controller of my shitty genesis p44 to play every game that has a native xbox 360 controller support and is availble on linux/wine.
>inb4 there are no games on linux
41/72 in my library and only game i miss is farcry 3.
Also it lets me install system and software updates in less than 10 minutes (fedora is slow) while downloading 300mb of data , while windows takes a few hours (windows7 , 10 takes up just stupidly long time to install them before reboot) , needs 2-3 restarts and downloads 120mb of security updates.
All of that aside , there isnt much difference to me, fonts are prettier in Libreoffice on linux vs windows. I dont use word cause i have an oreginal 2007 and it lacks features vs Libreoffice writer
>>52326301
>Plus no one really cares if it takes 11 seconds to install instead of 10.
Wasn't talking about that. I could sudo apt get install and list all the programs I want and I'm done with it.
And at least for me Cinnamon is damn near perfect out of the box. It took Windows 10 to catch up to it.
>>52326736
>Also it loads DotA 2 and CS:GO quicker than windows, and the games dont crash randomly like on windows.
What GPU and drivers do you use, anon? I have a R9 290 on Mint and Dota can't reach more than 48fps in Linux whereas in Windows it surpases them.
>>52325865
kek
>buy soundcard
>no drivers exist for it for linux, find that installing them on windows could work anyway
>boot into windows, install, restart
>it works fine
>boot into debian
>still works well
>wake up a minute ago, boot debian
>any sound that the system plays through the sound card results in a long burst of white noise until several seconds after the sound stops
>>52326766
Assuming you know the package name, it's in the default repository, and you don't care about having the most up-to-date versions.
>>52325854
you can rice a tiling window manager and make it comfy as fuck.
>>52325854
a few examples/commands that I find better under GNU\Linux (ubuntu 14.04 LTS to be more precise):
-chmod +x xyz
-ps -aux | grep xyz
-kill -9 xyz_pid
-dpkg --list
-speed of the OS
-I know exactly what it's doing, and I know that nothing else is running that I didn't gave permission to run (in the background)
and I don't have this constant feeling, that I'm being watched by Microsoft. no data is collected from me on my computer by my own OS.
>>52326768
Not him, but red cards have the "do drivers" meme for a reason. Now that steamos is a thing, people are coming up with all sorts of tweaks to improve performance. you just have to poke about. leddit was kicking around something that people were reporting ~10% boosts with.
>>52326736
i forgot to add that i have a hp printer/scanner and i even though i use a NAPS 2 for scanning on windows so its simple 1click scan like SimpleScan on linux , i dont have to install shittone of hp drivers and updates and cherrypick shit while here it just works out of the box and updates with the system instead of slowing windows boot time further.
>>52326768
i have an msi nvidia gtx 760 with 358.16 drivers. dota has 120fps min on every graphics setting (even on lowest 640x480) and 220fps max , cs go has 300+ fps if i let it but it causes housefires. Try using the blob drivers. i game at 1080p, only game that lags behind windows i have is borderlands 2 - 120-50 fps while windows had around 130-80 on max detail (without physx)
>>52326784
If that bothered me so much I'd be using something user friendly and arch-based like Antergos or Manjaro.
I've got about 3-4 programs that aren't in the default repositories Opera (which adds its repo during install), WPS Office and Unified Remote I think.
>>52325929
it's way faster, no contest, and it never slows down when time passes.
I think it's because every shit that you install in windows wants to autostart at boot for some reason, and don't give me that shit "you can disable it" it still gets slower, and your average user won't be able to disable shit
>>52326049
>Proper filesystem (what is journaling?)
If windows had a journaling fs, you would be accusing microsoft of spying.
>>52326049
>>52326866
NTFS is journaling.
*creepy music*
>>52326769
Thats because these niggers wont provide a documentation for the unix driver development community
>>52326768
also i (>>52326736) observed best performance in games on new gnome (3.16+) and unity altough i cant stand unity application switching (alt + w is fine but its slow vs gnome) also i would use willy but it feels broken whatever i do (dash doesnt see new programs until i reboot or shit like that)
by best performance i mean stable fps and no crashes. im sure that using i3 or something can give you better fps but steam tends to crash/hang on other wm/de's from my experience
>>52326838
So did I (Krita (default repo sucked for this), Kodi, and Bomi). But at that point, it is no faster than installing something on windows.
>>52326307
I tried installing python on windows once.
Never again.
>>52326866
You say it like it's an odd thing that Microsoft "would be" spying, but there's enough proof to call you naive for it.
>>52326915
It still is, because on Windows I have to install a lot more programs since none of the default are any good for anything. Except maybe the calculator.
>>52326250
Another anon, but no it's still kinda crappy. Guess it's the maintainer's fault and not chocolatey but a good portion of programs that I scripted to install just straight up refused to. Meanwhile Debian Jessie's avaliable packages increased compared to Wheezy and all of them worked. Only thing I have to complain about is that couchdb got dropped from Jessie, but I just installed erlang and built from source. Chocolatey is a step in the right direction, but needs more quality control.
>>52326937
>>52326937
>since none of the default are any good for anything
The same is true on Linux. The only default that is good on Linux is when they include LibreOffice instead of Open Office.
>>52326768
try disabling vsync globally (in amd drivers i dont know if you can do that because never had amd + linux system) and in dota, maybe it tries to apply it two times (cinnamon and then dota) i had that bug with older gnome , it was lagging like hell when moving the camera
>>52327004
I don't have to install 7 taskbar tweaker (to get the same functionality as Cinnamon by default), CD burning software, audio player, video player, browser and flash, text editor, image editor, torrent client, office suite.
>>52326887
and in the end, it doesn't work. horrible argument in favour of linucks
>>52326824
What do you mean by "red card"?
>>52327020
I'll try that, thanks. I use the MATE version btw, I forgot to say it
>>52326914
GNOME? So maybe if I install Fedora/Other distro with it by default/Install it on Mint? I mean, I don't mind about reinstalling or changing distro, can test whatever I want to
>>52325978
>Gives me access to my hardware.
what is that supposed to mean? of course you can use your hardware in windows as well.
>Works a lot faster than Windows saving me time.
citation needed, you probably just can't use windows though
>less risk of malware and viruses
because nothing is compatible, not even malware. mac argument
>>52325854
Windows can not into supercomputers. That's it.
>>52326026
>Much faster than windows
because not much upgrades have happened, the code is still adjusted to weaker hardware
>>52327040
>CD burning software,
I don't have to install this on windows either.
>audio player,
The defaults suck on both. On windows I install Foobar2k, and on Linux I install Clementine.
>video player,
Again, both suck. Windows - MPC-HC, Linux - Bomi
>browser
Install Pale Moon on both
Etc. Like I said, the only one that doesn't need replace is when a Linux distro has LibreOffice by default.
>>52327113
>Implying that’s a bad thing
>>52326887
>Be me
>Making a new sound card
>Make drivers for the mostly used OS
>don't make drivers for shitty OS no-one uses
>People complain
>get called a nigger for not releasing shit that cost me money to make
>MFW
>>52327081
AMD
>>52326026
>Much faster than windows
Is it though? I installed lubuntu on my old notebook and it's barely faster than W7. The only advantage is RAM.
>>52325882
>women
>tech
nice combo m80
>>52326373
>Yes but when installing some obscure software by exe you have to review to make sure you're not getting some POS adware on your computer that is a potential pain in the ass to remove.
and in case of linux to get the obscure software to run, you often have to go into the depths of system programming to get it to work. (if it isn't in the app store and isn't in an .app file)
>>52327141
>finally give in and make a driver for it
>people bitch and moan that you don't give them trade secrets too
>>52327156
The only time Linux tends to be faster is when you are trying to install it on ancient hardware that no sane person would try to install a modern OS on anyway.
>>52327156
>Ubuntu
if u wanna do server dev stuff, u pretty much need linux. all of the software is for linux. if u use windows u need to use unofficial out of date ports, or in some cases there aren't any ports at all. the server community is def. linux
>>52327190
>Linux is faster
>but only if you use some specific distro :^)
>>52326624
>Of course you can still use Win95 if you just want to browse kikebook or your
that's funny because that's exactly what a windows user would think about linux.
>>52327081
I tried using mate, love how feature full it is and how quick it loads but its compositor is broken (vsync cuts the screen in half) - it may be an nvidia thing.
Really try ubuntu/unity first since its the supported distro for steam. install steam from ubuntu repos (not site) and get newest amd non free drivers. Fedora can be a headache for setting up (at least for me, but you set it up once and it works). If it will lag for ubuntu/unity it will probably lag for other distros too. Try LTS first , i think willy is just broken
The touchpad drivers on Windows 8.1 were so shit i couldn't stand it, so i installed Ubuntu, never going back.
>>52327217
>windows is better
>but only if you dont use vista/old hardware without support/specific buggy software
:^)
>>52327217
no, but using a slow DE will make the computer slower.
I don't see what the problem is here.
There is so many alternatives to unity that people complain about it.
Ubuntu is the main distro for a lot of people though, so it is valid to point out that it is bad.
>>52327180
>Give in and tell trade secrets
>go bankrupt because rival companies steal them
>people bitch that It's my fault for not releasing linux drivers in the first place
>mfw
>>52327339
M$ does not claim that Windows will work on older h/w.
>>52327363
>M$
so edgy dood
>>52325854
be a good operating system
>>52325854
Perform at a reasonable speed
>>52327342
It's Lubuntu, not Ubuntu.
>>52327363
It doesn't work on new hardware either, what is your point?
>>52327363
They dont really claim anything unless you buy windows preinstalled. So its the same for ubuntu preinstalled machines or macs, this is a stupid point imo.
>>52327393
wat
>>52327339
vista is fast, I'm using it
>>52326026
>Much faster than windows especially on an SSD. Free from corporations.
it's not really free from corporations though. ms, intel, redhat ect are all dependent on linux one way or another. Hell they all contributed to it's development and now, with systemd being used for a lot of distros, it's heavily manipulated by corporations. if you're talking about the kernel alone, then it's even worse.
>>52325865
works*
as long as you are not using ati/rad, not trying to game, using common hardware. Uncommon stuff is unsupported and will cause a kernel panic.Also make sure you don't end up in dependency hell trying to install something that is a small project. Time to fork something and abandon it 5 days later but leave it shitting up the software waters on git.
>works as an INTERNET browser right ?
NO FUCK NO WHY WOULD LINUX BE USEFUL IN THE INTERNET SPACE
>need it to further education for certs through CBT NUGGETS, Icollege, even fucking youtube.
CBTnuggets requires flash so does icollege, jewtube uses html5 on 1 out of 10000 videos SO good fucking luck.
OH you want citrix to work like it does on windows WELLLL FUCK YOU
TL:DR BLOG post filter Linux just works MEME needs annotations, because for a working dude linux fucking sucks dick
>>52325854
give you a platform to do rework forever, while making almost 0 progress forward.
>>52327217
>Debian is fast and stable
>I know! Lets add tons of pointless shit that's only going to be useful to a fringe group that knows how to get it anyway
>Xorg? nah. Help build Wayland? nah. Make our own halfassed display server, renderer, and bloated as fuck DE? Hell yeah!
Ubuntu for you. You could choose pretty much any other distro, and be better off.
>>52325854
it does cool and simple mahjonng/cards/mines/tetris/chess games without ads and botnet :>
>>52327355
well you just don't value the freedoms enough, you know
>>52327141
Defuq m8.. They try to develope the drivers but they suck.
Why not just provide information about how to handle their shit hardware? So others can do their shit
>>52326560
>>>>>>>>
>using linux is hard guise
>>52327166
the bait-to-normpost ratio in this thread is astounding
>>52327141
>be you
>make a new soundcard and drivers
>dont release drivers open to the public so it can be supported by some neckbeards instead (or in addition to) of your own paid team , also making the product buyable for a broader audience.
cmon anon its not like people buy the drivers for cash, you just need to focus on making better soundcards than your competition from now on.
>but i dont wanna make better hardware than other people i just want cash
oh... nvm then
Inotify AFAIK Windows has shitty file system monitoring facility.
FUSE - Only some third-party obscure Japanese shit on Windows.
RAM disk - third party on Windows.
ZFS, BTRFS or full EXT4 support.
Decent package management system (MSI is not decent). Or non-third party package repository that doesn't have only "apps".
I could go on.
>>52327493
I lol'd.
>>52327516
overall /g/ nowadays has a poor ratio
>>52327618
How much does MS pay you for shilling their OS? No sane person will defend a billion dollar corporation for free, especially considering the corporation doesn't even give 2 fucks about you.
>>52327662
So when Linux fanboys get rekt in an argument, they start tossing out ad hominems, huh?
>>52327662
when will the free savior release you of your pain and let you enter the free heaven?
>>52327688
That was my first post in this thread. So answer my question, how much does MS pay for you?
>>52325865
Took me 2 hours to fix xububtu screen tearing
>>52327452
>Debian is fast and stable
>I know , but it lacks new software for general use and testing can get critical bugs for a long time
>hey how about we take testing, preconfigure it so it works out of the box ,and maintain packages from upstream so they get security updates in time
>hey thats seems cool , lets do it
some time later
>hey that new gnome 3 breaks everything and is unusable
>lets fork it and maintain it ouselfs so that never happens again in the future unless we want it to happen
>ok guys it seems not so bad idea
some time later
>guys gnome 3 is ok now
>we cant trust it anymore ,lets keep developing unity on our own
>but people call us bloated
>they can use other DE flavored ubuntu distros
>oh ok.
it was more like this anon. Unity is just a DE and has little software that forces you to use it.
>>52327709
Serves you right for using xubuntu.
>>52327701
>That was my first post in this thread
Doesn't even matter. The point stands.
be free as in freedom
>>52327662
Consider that it's a tripfag.
Why would a sane person go out of their way to make sure they have an identity in a forum that is anonymous by default and has no capacity for persistent identity?
Why would they announce to the world (and any archiving service) that they happily participate with extra effort in a community widely known for its hostility and ville nature?
I posit that tripfags are borderline clinical narcissists and thus fall outside of the use of the word "sane"
>>52327727
And my question still stands. Why are you shilling so hard?
>>52327746
You ever see the Croc Hunter.
Most people see a deadly snake and walk the other way. Some of us see it and want to poke it with a stick.
>>52327746
tripfagging helps you identify yourself for just a single thread, for example to avoid confusion. Its not like you can shitpost so much on a technology/consumerism general board so someone will track you down irl
>mfw I've never ever used trip
It's time.
>>52327844
Feels the same.
>>52327844
The only proper way to use a trip is to mine a cool one.
>>52327873
>The only proper way to use a trip is
none.
>>52327832
>not knowing which posts are your own
Clover even highlights them for you, and each reply has a (you) added. The only reason to trip is to confirm an identity when it is actually relevant, say for instance OP, or a particular app developer. 4chan simply doesn't support casual identities like other services
What's the point of unsalted trips?
>>52327709
i don't see how installing compton and messing with a few lines in the config can take more than 10 minutes
>>52327900
thats what i meant. your implication is stupid because on every fucking browser 4chan tells you which post is yours.
>using clover
>>52327955
it can if you use nvidia/intelHD laptop and every combination of --backend --vsync --glx-swap-method has another stupid bug. And when u set it up right, firefox doesnt render little changes on a page without scrolling and you just wanna die. its quick once you learn the manpage though.
>>52327959
My mistake, I got caught up on the you part of
>helps you identify yourself
a trip is never for yourself, only for others. Traipsing around the board with it on like it's an account name is what I'm calling narcissistic
>>52326143
Unix dev environment master race
>>52326049
I see you don't know what "Proper" means.
>>52325854
Waste my time
>>52326146
Do you realize the amount of autism it requires to reach a point were you can install Gentoo and learn everything you needed to keep that system stable and install what you install with no problems?
Yes, wasted time.
Tiling window manager
Read ext4
Devs using the package manager
>>52328114
you would waste it on gayming otherwise anon. That way you learn some elasticity, and practice learning in general.
>>52328145
to install gentoo you basically need to read english and be able to google. As for learning if you learn how to maintain one system u can easier learn other things in the future. noone forces you to use gentoo as main driver , it is suppoesed to be different for people that will compile a simple system for their hardware to gain performance/disk space or learn about making their own distribution. If learning about optimizing software for specific hardware is wasting time then what isn't
>>52326049
>No games
>>52326345
One day we'll get there, fellow /g/er.
>>52325854
Report directly to the three letter agencies.
>>52325882
>verizon internet CD
Found your problem, f@m
>>52325882
>american television news
>>52327710
You forgot Mir, and the "joy" of working with it. Unity is just a DE, a DE that doesn't play nice with any other distro.
Also, they don't trust Gnome 3, but have no issue with Systemd, pulseaudio, or anything else that was developed by the same people who devised Gnome 3. So they can't hide behind "trust", when they've adopted half the entire ecosystem that came from the people they say they don't trust. They just have a pile of snowflakes on top of Debian testing.
They offer Unity as the one replaceable component, and every alternate flavor runs into some issue or other, with Kubuntu being horribly, horribly broken pretty much every .04 release, Xubuntu intermittently spazzing with their snowflake compositor, and Ubuntu GNOME inexplicably stuttering doing simple stuff. 4 years I've hoped Ubuntu would actually make headway, and every release just disappoints more and more.
Linux isnt very universal
>>52330404
Why do our "news" agencies all seem retarded?
NBC can't get anything right
CBS is run by amateurs who don't know what they're doing
CNN can't keep their stories straight
Fox panics over everything
>>52330544
What do you mean by that?
>>52325854
Run on a wide variety of non-x86 hardware
>>52326194
A better question would be why are you incapable of answering the original question?
You can customize it to the very core.
>>52330436
The hell are you on about? They hate systemd and were furious that redhat employees forced Debian's hand in adopting it.
>>52325854
Offer my company lower development costs than if we ran all our shit on Windows and were locked into the MS licensing regime.
>>52331850
>lower
Yeah right. Good luck finding competent Linux developers for cheap.
The real sell is "done on the first try" and "updates that benefit you and don't demolish your deployed infrastructure" as any enterprise IT will tell you every 2nd Tuesday
>>52325854
Changing to a proper theme legally
>>52325854
Install updates in less than 48 hours without restarting.
>>52325854
>What does Linux do that Windows can't?
Stay out of the clutches of Microshaft Evil?
>>52326213
> Industry Standard
> Windows
Hahaha! Microsoft has done nothing but hold the industry back.
>>52325854
Ignite the imagination of neckbeards around the world.
also gives NEETS a set of pretensions so they can feel less bad about being at the bottom of the social pecking order
>>52325854
My reason for using Linux is because I enjoy the various DEs available like enlightenment or FLWM.
It can be more lightweight depending on your distro. I'm currently running tiny core plus I an old laptop with an athlon 2000+ and 1gb ddr ram.
It gives me more options for my hard drives file systems. Did you know ext4 doesn't need to defrag like ntfs does? Did you know there are error correcting file systems you can use that prevent bit rot?
On my desktop I use windows because muh gaymes. But on my 2 laptops I'm running Linux. Tiny core and Linux mint.
>>52330544
>chkd
If by
>"isnt very universal"
you actually mean
>"doesn't run basically the entire Internet"
then nah, that's wrong friend.
>>52327688
>chkd
>So when Linux fanboys get rekt in an argument
you're pay, friend.
>>52332960
Thanks, mate. One more payment like that, and I can afford a night with your mother.
>>52328001
holy shit that's what I'm trying to fix. I am using xubuntu too, and nvidia optimus. how did you fix it?
>>52332960
>you're pay
You am pay.
>>52327493
>Linux is hard guise
>I don't want to switch to Linux because learning the terminal is too much work
>>52328201
I don't game, you child. OSX and Windows are leages beyong Linux in stability and productivity. Outside of server and embeded, Linux is useless.
Adobe CS
>>52325854
Not require reboot
How has no one mentioned raw sockets
>>52333559
I browse the web, watch movies, type up a few documents. I don't play games, I don't need a thousand different media players or browsers.
Why should I spend $130 on windows?
It offers no benefits and has more downsides for me.
On Linux I've never had to defrag my hard drive or clean my registry.
It literally just works.
Yes people might have driver issues but don't pretend that never happens in windows too.
>>52333892
>On Linux I've never had to defrag my hard drive
Yes, you do. Just not as often. If you are using NTFS partitions you will still need to defrag.
>or clean my registry
You never do this on Windows either.
I never could get my graphics tablet to work properly on Linux. It just worked on Windows.
1. software and system updates, Windows update will never compete.
2. virtualization and container technologies.
3. LLVM/Clang support.
4. great font rendering OOTB.
5. workspaces, window on top, tabs on the file explorer, customizable keyboard shortcuts
6. native SSH/SSHFS
7. Support for almost all file systems.
8. UNIX shell
I can go on...
>>52333973
I only have one hard drive and it's formatted to ext4
My laptop has one of those wacom stylus things and it works great off the built in driver. Not sure about a graphics tablet though.
I had to spend a few minutes getting my broadcomm wireless to work in Fedora, but after that it's worked flawlessly.
No OS is perfect, but I prefer Linux personally.
you pieces of shit wanna figure out what linux does?? join this fucking stream, we're installing arch.
twitch dot tv /economymedia
Ahh nice.
>>52334159
I had a storage partition set to NTFS so that it could be shared between Linux and Windows.
I was using a HUION H610pro graphics tablet. I did eventually get some basic functionality out of it by installing some other drivers, but it never fully worked and never registered the function buttons.
Once you had a wire connection and could download updates, the wireless worked fine for me in Mint and Fedora, but like you, they didn't work for me out of the box.
EXT4 still needs rarely defraged, and Windows automatically defrags for you in the background, so it's basically a non-issue on both systems.
>>52334135
>workspaces
I never used that shit even on Linux. I never understood the point.
>sudo rm -rf --no-preserve-root
>>52334738
Don't you need an *.* in there too?
>>52334982
where?
>>52335074
At the end I think. It basically just stands for all files with any file extension.
>>52335112
oh, no, but I am missing a "/" in the middle after -rf
>>52335167
both should work depending on where you are running it from.
*.* is basically every file
/ is the root directory
On a similar note, Modern Windows will not let you delete system 32 and will immediately fix it if you manage to do it.
>>52326624
>office
I use office online, works just fine
>>52325873
Yeah that's not the problem, the problem is your usage patterns are being sold to advertisers. And once they manage to force some bullshit law through, the NSA backdoor will be used to prosecute you for torrenting shit. You don't torrent? One day they will prosecute you for a copyrighted image found in your browsers deleted cache.
>>52335312
This is the one legit complaint imo.
Linux is backdoored/bugdoored because it is developed by a single company with close ties to the US government.
Windows is worse but don't lie to yourself.
>>52335570
wow, people tell me education is important but here is living proof
>stop being a retard
waste your time doing irrelevant shit
>>52326049
>no surveillance
http://libreboot.org/faq/#intelme
>>52326240
What is: Windows PowerShell
>>52333973
tfw i never got my wacom bamboo tablet to work on windows (since vista) and its the same for 3 of my friends (smaller bamboo and newer medium one and 1 intuos pro) cause the drivers fail on boot, and on linux it works out of the box on every distro i tried since forever :>
>>52325854
kernel panic
not support drivers
not able to have decent professional software
Linux=feel like a hacker when updating system using terminal.
Windows=feels good. Nothing to hide nothing to worry about.
Get it?
>>52335813
can u not just block it's Mac address from making connections or something
>>52326183
This is hellofa clean head opinion
>>52335986
a what now?
>>52326191
Linux is a much better shitposting machine
>>52327576
>you just need to focus on making better soundcards than your competition from now on.
It works on Windows (where the target market is) why the fuck would i care about wasting that much time and resources to >1% desktop market share. I care about the Windows market (Where I can make money). If my sound card does better than my competition does on Windows I will make money (hopefully the labors worth of value plus some).
>>52335924
Running mint right now, it's great. I've never used the terminal ever.
>>52336291
>he thinks 1% is a small number
nigga pls
>>52327217
>buy computer with windows 3.1 preinstalled
>install windows 10
>mfw its not working
>windows works
>but only if you use a specific distro :^)
>>52336881
0/10
>>52326086
I like to capitalize Free when refering to libre. it emphasizes the point in my mind, and draws a distinction between gratis free and libre Free
>>52337305
Thanks for the input tripfriend. :^)
Use less system memory kekkekkekkek
>>52337524
You're welcome. =3
>>52337586
=^3
