Previously thread: >>52272449
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There are three ways to try Linux, you can:
1) Install a Linux OS on a VM (Virtual Machine/VirtualBox) for "safety purposes"
2) Use the Live ISO directly without installing anything, that way, you can get a "full Linux experience".
3) Go balls deep and overwrite everything with Linux (not recommended)
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>>52284972
tryxrandr --output LVDS1 --auto --output HDMI1 --right-of LVDS1 --auto
same as what you used, just specify main display
Guess I'll reiterate the issue I was working on last thread.
How2 connect my laptop to my TV with HDMI on Gentoo?
On Fedora it would have two displays, the TV and the Laptop.
Now it just has the laptop and the function key to switch the displays just turns the screen off. TV gets no signal.
Have an intel i915 video card.
xrandr says there's an HDMI output but I tried to switch with it and it just made my desktop 1920x1080 and it took a while for me to fix that.
>>52284879 (You)
>xrandr says there's an HDMI output but I tried to switch with it and it just made my desktop 1920x1080 and it took a while for me to fix that.
what did you actually tell xrandr?
also post output of xrandr
> xrandr --output HDMI1 --mode 1920x1080 --left-of LVDS1
> Screen 0: minimum 8 x 8, current 1366 x 768, maximum 32767 x 32767
LVDS1 connected 1366x768+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 344mm x 193mm
1366x768 60.01*+
1024x768 60.00
800x600 60.32 56.25
640x480 59.94
DP1 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
HDMI1 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
VGA1 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
VIRTUAL1 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
Yeah, HDMI1 is disconnected because I don't have it plugged in ATM. It doesn't work when it's plugged in; I'm not retarded.
When it's plugged in it says HDMI1 connected.
>>52284979 (You)
It also lists a shitload of resolutions and framerates, same as LVDS1.
If anyone can help, I'd appreciate it.
>>52285054
Screen blinked, mouse is way more sensitive and can go offscreen.
I'm hopeful; My sister is using the TV now but I'll check the inputs in a sec
Aight, it's got input but it's tiled in 1366x768 squares. I'm assuming I just have to specify resolution in the command?
>>52285116
reload your background first
--auto tells xrandr to use best possible ratio
usexrandr --output HDMI1 --off --output LVDS1 --auto
>>52285148
>use xrandr --output HDMI1 --off --output LVDS1 --auto
when you disconnect from the tv
>>52285161
Fuckin' A, thanks mate!
Don't know what sort of funny pictures you like, but here's one from my folder.
>VM install goes well
>,arch isn't do bad
>try it on the x220
>EVERYTHING HORRIBLY WRONG
>uunexplainably just doest want to use sda1 as the boot drive
>insists on keeping my USB as the boot device even when its removed
>no WiFi. wifi-menu can't set anytthing up because of service errors. If I try to .Service anything the program throws a fit.
Is there a super minimulist distro that wpmt rape me? Preferably with open box or some other mainly terminal.environment.
>>52285173
thanks, heres are script for alternating both and on monitor#!/bin/bash
EXTERNAL_OUTPUT="HDMI1"
INTERNAL_OUTPUT="LVDS1"
xrandr | grep $EXTERNAL_OUTPUT | grep " connected "
if [ $? -eq 0 ]; then
xrandr --output $INTERNAL_OUTPUT --auto --output $EXTERNAL_OUTPUT --auto --right-of $INTERNAL_OUTPUT
else
xrandr --output $INTERNAL_OUTPUT --auto --output $EXTERNAL_OUTPUT --off
fi
then call the script when necessary
>>52285230
>insists on keeping my USB as the boot device even when its removed
Did you set the boot flag in parted/gparted on the partition you want it to boot?
Did you switch boot device in the BIOS?
I've never had wifi issues on my X220, so I can't help you with that one.
>>52285230
doing a gutted "core" install then compiling what you need
or doing full install then gutting system of useless items
>>52285013
>>52285027
dude, the OP is already updated.
>>52285230
Try switching to NetworkManager and use nm-tui to connect to networks.
>>52285279
I never read what I post anyway.
>>52285260
I was following directions from a video that worked on my VM on my PC, I'm just going to trying to understand the beginner guide again. I really font want to give up on running arch just because I'm having trouble setting it up.
>>52285295
At least you conform with the standards.
>>52285311
Try archbang or something.
>>52285243
> being this friendly
Holy shit. I wish there was some way I could adequately thank you.
If you need someone who knows how to get pictures off an apple or Android product, I'm your man.
every fucking time i install arch linux, i get a new problem
this time it's "unable to find root device"
and won't even load the boot loader, what do?
>>52285606
some info would be nice.
>>52285637
Okay, here, is what I'm greeted by.[ 0.0254191] Ignoring BGRT: invalid status 0 (expected 1)
:: running early hook [udev]
starting version 228
:: running hook [udev]
:: Triggering uevents...
ERROR: device '' not found. Skipping fsck.
ERROR: Unable to find root device ''.
You are being dropped to a recovery shell
Type 'exit' to try and continue booting
sh: can't access tty: job control turned off
[rootfs /]#
>>52285704
Post /etc/fstab and /boot/grub/grub.cfg
>>52285716
>grub
I have systemd-boot because I have a UEFI motherboard.
I'm not typing out my fstab, wait one second and I will take a photo.
>>52285791
>what is sicp.me
>what is curl
>>52285791
use cat
>>52285716
>>52285813
>>52285832
This is a brand new install, I don't have anything on it yet. Right now I'm accessing the files by chrooting from the usb.
>>52285852
NIGGER
PANORAMA
ARE YOU SERIOUS
anyway
Are those UUIDs correct? Check withlsblk -f
>>52285912
they would have been too blurry to read otherwise!
yeah, the UUIDs match.
>>52285937
Post your systemd-boot configs. I've never used it, but I'm pretty sure you fucked something up there.
> Gentoo
> no sound over HDMI
> HDMI codec enabled in kernel
> snd_hda_intel module
> Sound on speakers and headphones perfectly functional
> PulseAudio
> Check pavucontrol, no output available for HDMI
> check aplay -l**** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
card 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], device 0: ALC269VB Analog [ALC269VB Analog]
Subdevices: 1/1
Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], device 3: HDMI 0 [HDMI 0]
Subdevices: 1/1
Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
Googling around but not finding anything good Can anyone help? This is the last issue I need to fix before I can call my Gentoo install complete. On a laptop, if that matters.
>>52285972
> check alsamixer
> no HDMI soundbar there either
Alright, so we know this goes all the way to ALSA.
>>52285957
I think you are right. Originally, I hadtitle Arch Linux
linux /vmlinuz-linux
initrd /intel-ucode.img
initrd /initramfs-linux.img
Now I havetitle Arch Linux
linux /vmlinuz-linux
initrd /intel-ucode.img
initrd /initramfs-linux.img
options root=PARTUUID=<insert> rw
where <insert> is the UUID of the root partition /dev/sda2 in the previous image. Now I get a somewhat different error: it's the same as my original one, but instead of '' it is '<insert>'
>>52286025
Is your /etc/mkinitcpio.conf fucked up too? https://superuser.com/questions/769047/unable-to-find-root-device-on-a-fresh-archlinux-install
>>52285013
1. Setting up email in thunderbird.
2. "Unknown certificate" shows up.
3. Sha1 and MD5 checksums do not match while referencing other websites that display SSL certificates.
4. cancels fetch mail action.
What do?
I'm just trying to setup p0p3.
Anyway to verify the checksums of the SSL certificate?
am I being duped into accepting a SSL certificate?
pic semi-related - was a question I asked a few days ago and no one gave me a fucking answer.
I was happily dualbooting Windows 10 and Ubuntu 15.10 when I tried to 'upgrade' the W10 partition to the November 'Threshold' update after burning an ISO. Before it completed, I was thrown into grub_rescue with no possible way to boot to either partitions.
I used the Boot Repair disk (on a flash drive) and was able to successfully complete the upgrade.
The boot repair process seems to have wiped out grub -- I don't see it at all during boot -- and Windows sees my Linux partition as Free Space (pic related). Is there any way to recover my partition losslessly?
Thanks!
>>52285991
Wait, there's a thing that says "auto-mute mode" that is connected to my HDMI. It said disabled so I enabled it but there's still no bar.
>>52286136
tou need to reinstall grub to MBR.
ive done similar with lilo so it is doable
let me go find some wikis
also do you still have the ubuntu install disk/jump drive? you will need it to mount and fix
>>52286229
Thanks. I don't have the W10, Ubuntu or BootRepair disks anymore. I should get them in a couple of days, hopefully this thread or the next one will be alive by then.
I look forward to your wiki links.
>>52286277
alright then
So I've set gtk-application-prefer-dark-theme = true with my numix theme. Everything works fine, however, Qt applications still use white numix. How do I fix this?
>>52286427qtconfig
orqtconfig-qt4
>>52286444
I already set GTK+ in there, nothing changed. Do I need to change anything else?
>>52286467
You can change and tune palettes there, try that. Or just rewrite your theme to only have a dark version.
So I've been looking into Puppy Linux and one of the most controversial aspects of it is that it logs you in as root by default. But is it really such a stupid idea? Their manual (http://barryk.org/puppylinux/technical/root.htm) contains a bunch of interesting arguments about this and it runs internet applications as a pseudo-sandbox under a separate unprivileged user (spot).
Can a more advanced Linuxfag explain me some of the potential vulnerabilities/security holes that arise from such a setup, on a one-user home computer? (except for one's own stupidity in taking root lightly, obviously)
>>52286949
Any binary you run can own your system without any additional hacks. Instant botnet, if you're not careful.
What is your choice of music player /flt/?
Is there even a media player with built in audio normalization or do you use different method to deal with that? If the latter, then how? It's really starting to piss me off how all my music has different volume.
>>52287144
I use Clementine, but that's because I'm a GUI scrub that can't properly transition to mpd+ncmpcpp.
>>52287142
There are a few homebrew solutions that can situationally lower the privileges (anti-sudo basically), for example http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=70111
What if I ran suspicious programs under that?
Hello /flt/,
i have this in my .bash_aliasesif ! $_isroot; then
alias sudo='sudo '
alias root='sudo su'
alias reboot='sudo reboot'
alias halt='sudo halt'
alias pacman='sudo pacman'
alias vim='sudo vim'
fi
why does it not work? vim wont edit files with sudo rights and pacman does also not work.
I can't get my wireless card to be recognized on Debian 8.2
I'm a complete linux noob and I can't seem to figure it out. I've logged on root, seemingly added a non-free repository, ran apt-get update, and I'm not sure what to do from here... If i could get wi-fi working I could troubleshoot the rest without trying to go back and forth between unplugging my computer to plug the ethernet into my thinkpad.
I know I'm an idiot for going into debian first but I wanted to 'learn' abit and I liked debian's approach
>>52287287
What run your .bash_aliases?
>>52287373
The first thing is to double check whether the repository you downloaded really was the one suggested to you during the installation.
>>52287373
>>52287402
Also as a linux noob that started with Debian I really don't recommend it as a start. For home use it's pretty much Ubuntu except with five times more work required.
>>52287287
1. Check if $_isroot is actually declared anywhere
2. Check if bashrc loads bash aliases
3. Quick fix:
Savealias sudo='sudo '
alias root='sudo su'
alias reboot='sudo reboot'
alias halt='sudo halt'
alias pacman='sudo pacman'
alias vim='sudo vim'
into your ~/.bashrc
>>52287402
How do I check that? in source.list it just had some CD-ROM locations so I added in:
deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian jessie main contrib non-free
>>52287451
IIRC the installer outright tells you that you need a non-free repository (and lists its name). Did this not happen?
>>52287435
Additional, to load the aliases and function files, save this into your bashrc:# If there's a .bash_aliases file, enable it.
[[ -f $HOME/.bash_aliases ]] && . $HOME/.bash_aliases
# If there's a .bash_functions file, enable it.
[[ -f $HOME/.bash_functions ]] && . $HOME/.bash_functions
Can someone recommend me a good dark gtk theme? Numix dark is perfect but I don't want to fucking pay for it., and I don't think you can find it anywhere at all.
>>52287472
gtk2: playbill-blue
>>52287472
http://thrynk.deviantart.com/art/Mire-v2-Gtk-themepack-45804371
>>52287469
what I remember is it told me I needed nonfree drivers for my WiFi and that I could insert media to find them. I opted to just skip that because I didn't have any removable storage handy anyway.
>>52287421
should I just back out and install xubuntu instead??
>>52287435
>>52287471
Thanks for the help.
That line in my .bashrc was already there.
I found my mistake, i forgot a space after sudo vim and sudo pacman.
Still changed it a bitif [[ $EUID -ne 0 ]]; then
alias sudo='sudo '
alias root='sudo su'
alias reboot='sudo reboot'
alias halt='sudo halt'
alias pacman='sudo pacman '
alias vim='sudo vim '
fi
>>52287523
It also named said drivers in the same message. Not sure how to check them past the installation in the system itself, but you can probably just look them up by your wireless adapter or whatever.
>>52287536
I'm not very excited about XFCE so I can't recommend xubuntu, but it isn't any worse than any other *buntu essentially. I'm a LXDE/LXQt fan.
You don't have much to lose, burn that shit on an USB, try it out for 30 minutes and decide whether it's for you.
>>52287545
You don't need a space after an alias.
>>52287567
I orignally wanted debian for it being lightweight,, kind of 'modular'. Can't I just install xubuntu and over time remove parts of it I dont want or need?
>>52287536
why not just get Mint?
>>52287653
it fixed the problem for me and now its working.
strange..
it was the only thing i changed, then i sourced the file again and it worked
>>52287696
I never put spaces at the end of my aliases and it works perfectly. So I want to say
>The Truth is Out There
>>52287656
I dont like the way mint looks, and I want to struggle atleast a little bit while I switch from windows to linux
>>52287766
you're gonna end up customizing your desktop environment either way
>>52287654
Should be technically possible (haven't tried myself tho), but you risk running an unstable system.
>>52287656
Not him, but Cinnamon is IMO horrible and I don't like MATE either
>>52287766
the no "little bit" of struggling with linux
either all clear or SHTF
>>52285027
>#FriendlyLinux
The IRC channel is totally dead. No activity for a week, about 20 lines over the last month.
People get in here or recommend a channel or network that might actually be helpful.
>>52287777
>>52287838
Thank you mr dubsman
>>52287766
How can I shitpost from the commandline without 4chan pass faggotry?
>>52287782
>SHTF
so should I just drag my face through debian for a few days until I "get it" or can I learn sufficiently with xubuntu?
clearly this shit is easier, I'm on the live CD now and shit actually just works, amazingly enough
>>52287890
use which ever you prefer, i'm just giving a heads up.
since *buntu is based off debian, theyre almost interchangeable. but *butnu is usually a better starting point for new linux users.
i just prefer to have all my stuff working and not have to 'fix' things right after an OS install
>change to linux
>using i3 and am comfy
>realize linux for me is might as well be windows but with a tiling wm and some extra complications when installing stuff
not sure what i expected, cant go back to non tiling ever though
>>52285013
>Install OpenSUSE with KDE
>Only stable KDE aside from Arch, works with no freeze and glitches
>Kubuntu niggers absolutely blown the fuck out
>File-picker memers also absolutely blown the fuck out by default
>>52282756
>>52282787
I'm pretty sure he's gonna need to give it execute permissions if he's just downloaded it.cd place/you/downloaded/it
chmod a+x Make.2.0.sh
./Make.2.0.sh
>>52287472
Just download numix from Github
had a much harder time installing drivers for windows 7 than for linux mint
>mfw finally clean dual-boot
>>52288551
Feels good man.
Is it possible that Linux fucks around with cpu settings, power management and those changes persist in Windows?
I have Arch linux with KDE. I installed firefox using pacman, and I can launch it from the directory, but why isn't there a menu icon for it?
I am entirely new with linux.
>>52288900
if you open the "start menu" and type firefox into the search box, does it show up? it should.
>>52288900
Install i3 and dmenu. You will never come back.
Catching up on last thread
>>52276003
with some window compositors, shaders will work, I think. Not certain though, because shaders are stupid.
>>52275991
Just like windows, if you have admin privileges and you don't pay attention there'll be hell to pay.
Things in a distro and its package manager are just about always safe, and I can vouch for basically anything open source being safe that I've had to compile (emulators, ffmpeg, etc)
>>52280017
>Loonix wiped my 1TB disc
>I tried to duel [sic] install dumbass
You clearly didn't pay attention during setup then.
>>52282572
That's for a local tty and it doesn't capture the font or color of a monochrome CRT real terminal.
>>52288990
Okay thanks, it appeared. There's probably a reason it isn't automatically put under the 'internet' submenu, right?
Also this one has been bugging me for a long time. There should be a GUI for networkmanager but I can't find it anywhere. I've installed all the packages but it's like it still doesn't exist even though it says it is! I don't have a problem using wifi-menu but ther has to be a reason it's not working for me.
How do I deal with colors in my terminal?
.Xresources and tweaking it from now till the end of the world?
>>52285013
The second option, I have xubuntu iso and a dvd, now I just burn the iso to the cd? or am I supposed to click some boxes other ten just regular burn it?
I did look around but since I can only spare one dvd I can't afford to mess this up.
Also can someone tell me how installed programs work while using a live cd, like if I install wine then where does it go? and what happens to changes made to hard drive(deleting, moving files etc), if I can make any that is?
I am not an idiot but given lack of knowledge about subject I am pretty much a normie.
>>52289284
http://terminal.sexy/
>>52289281
it is under internet, at least on my install it is.
there should be a network icon in the system tray (bottom right). do you have the plasma-meta package installed?
>>52289281
nmtui is the included gui
Holy shit guys, using linux now since 2 weeks and I got a fucking BEARD. What the hell!?
>>52289380
Oh right, now it is.
I did check if I had plasma-meta and it says so.
>>52289388
So I search nmtui, it finds it and I launch it, nothing happens.
>>52289460
if you type nmtui into terminal and press enter, this should appear.
>>52289460
>I did check if I had plasma-meta and it says so.
then you should have the network icon in the system tray.
>So I search nmtui, it finds it and I launch it, nothing happens.
it's actually a TUI; not a GUI. it runs in a terminal.
>>52289490
Says network manager is not running.
>>52289497
It's not in the system tray.
>>52289547
did you install networkmanager (pacman -S networkmanager)? is it running?
>>52289554
oh yeah, i forgot. try:
systemctl enable NetworkManager
>>52289554
Yes. Double checked.
>>52289571
'Failed to execute operation: No such file or directory
No matter what I do I cannot get networkmanager running. Says there's no such thing but I just checked the directory it IS there. God damnit.
>>52289618
>>52289686
i'm pretty sure it should just work like that. maybe reinstall?
what's the output ofpacman -Q | grep -i net
>>52289686
also try
systemctl enable NetworkManager.service
>>52289788
Same problem, can't find it.
>>52289746
glib-networking 2.46.1-1
inetutils 1.9.4-2
netctl 1.11-1
nettle 3.1.1-1
network-manager-applet 1.0.10-1
networkmanager 1.0.10-2
networkmanager-qt 5.17.0-1
sonnet 5.17.0-2
Reinstall as in the whole system or what? I just installed it.
>>52289890
looks fine.
no, reinstall networkmanager. pacman -S it again.
ever rebooted the system? try that too. other than that, no idea.
>>52289937
I've reinstalled it like 5 times now. Rebooted twice.
>>52288323
>>52288900
>using the ugliest and worst DE since the early 2000s
absolutely disgusting
And to clarify, KDE is ugly because -- at this point -- it's basically a patchwork of ALL of the GUI features of Windows, OS X, and GNOME =<2. Even worse is the fact that it's by far the most bloated and memory-intensive DE there is by default.
And even worse than that, default KDE apps are garbage.
>>52290664
I don't really care about DEs, but Konqueror is fucking sweet. It's the only program from KDE I use. I wouldn't mind replacing it with something else, but nothing comes close.
Any recommendations?
Is there a better launcher for my programs that just the standard start menu like in windows? I know I can install Docky but is there anything better?
>>52290878
dmenu.
Hey! I'm planning to get a Home Server (with Debian) soon, and I wondered why anons are using their home server for.
Since there's not /hsg/ I came here to ask to you, friendly folks. Thanks.
http://strawpoll.me/6473941
>cont
>>52291103
Also, another one for the OS you're using it.
http://strawpoll.me/6473958
Thanks agian, mates.
>>52290664
>ugliest
Oh boy you really don't mean you don't know KDE is the most customisable DE, do you?
>Memory
I've had freezes in kubuntu but on Opensuse it us very stable
>bloat
Don't care, I'm not a screen fetch whore
>garbage software
>What is Kate, kdevelop, k3b....
>>52290664
I like KDE very much, it's like windows but without all the unnecessary features. If I could run battlefield 4 using arch/kde I would stop using windows.
Sure maybe the apps could be better but I can live with installing a bunch of programs to replace default apps, that's what I've been doing for 20 years now.
>>52291103
Network node/SSH server
Slackware.
Hey, it's the first time I install Linux Arch in a Virtual Box and I think something went wrong (picture related). What should I do? Can somebody help me out?
>>52291277
What was the command you tried to run before the "/dev/sda3 not found" error?
>>52291103
My home server is also my gaming desktop, actually. I don't get a lot of traffic. I do have an old IBM xSeries 236 upgraded to two 3.6GHz Xeons (netburst, it's a space-heater), but since it draws exponentially more current than my normal desktop does, that server's just been mining digital currencies all winter for warmth. Not gotten anything, but it's a great way to avoid having to fix my radiator. (also got an audio amp and a 20" CRT TV in my room)
>>52291103
I run at least Apache, Mumble, strongswan (VPN) and rtorrent.
>>52291189
I though SSH server was implcit because I though 90% of people will use ssh to manage its server and you need the ssh server. . .not?
>>52291320
That's a fucking great use, anon. Good job.
>>52291343
I forgot to add VPN, damn. Thanks anon. On a side, some newbie good rtorrent tutorials? Got to set it up, but DHT doesn't work for some reason.
>>52291354
Well, yeah. I use it sort of like a website, though.
There are a number of things a little like that. There is one person making an sshchan service, which is pretty comfy if I may say so myself.
So whats the new hot gtk theme? Anything come close to arc in terms of completeness?
>>52291103
>>52291118
debian stable with backports
using it mostly for storage and accessing that storage over the network/internet using smb, ftp and a web interface.
other uses:
VMs
encoding/muxing
compiling
I'm interested in a solution for this >>52291400 problem on linux. Plebian here.
>>52291475
qtox
http://beta.tox.chat/
libresignal
maybe telegram, it's a bit shady though.
>>52291508
Will check that out, thanks.
accidently and by being dumb i installed spyware and malware on wine. reimage and some shitty aps. Does it compromise my security? Does it autoboot?
Should i give a fuck about it. Whats is woring a saw .exe running as a root.
>>52291103
Running scripts that have to be always online (with an off-site server ready to pick up the work in case of a power loss).
It's a RPi currently, but I'm planning on buying something dedicated later.
OS is Arch in both places.
>>52291475
GPG encrypted emails, but that requires the platform to be NSA-free (you and your friends will have to run Linux/BSD, libreboot and open hardware).
If you want to chat with your friends, NSA will probably get the messages anyway if they want to.
>>52291475
mobile:
signal (libresignal if you don't have google apps)
kontalk (android only)
desktop:
tox
jitsi
other xmpp services/clients
telegram is better than nothing but their homemade encryption makes people skeptical
Best way to control my linux pc from an iPad/iPhone? I used to use Teamviewer on windows. VNC or SSH?
>>52291648
I use WebSSH on my iPhone.
>>52291579
I understand how GPG works, actually maybe the best idea, since nobody is using some obscure messengers anyways, but 2 things:
>libreboot
>open hardware
so this means there are still NSA backdoors when using Linux?
>>52291764
All that it implies is that Linux doesn't guarantee safety. A proprietary bootloader or some hardware 'feature' in a chip (like the infamous Intel killswitch) may compromise your security. Mind you, this is going full tinfoil.
>>52291764
Not that I'm paranoid, I'm just curious and like to learn. Thanks anyway, I'll google that shit.
>>52291885
Please avoid using the term “google” as a verb, meaning to search for something on the internet. “Google” is just the name of one particular search engine among others. We suggest to use the term “search the web” or (in some contexts) just “search”. Try to use a search engine that respects your privacy; DuckDuckGo claims not to track its users, although we cannot confirm.
>>52291648
vSSH app. It's the only app I ever bought on iOS. Holy shit it's goooood.
>>52291915
Google themselves don't want "google" to become a verb. With you attitude, you might as well hurt Google if you can.
>>52291764
http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/enterprise-security/what-is-vpro-technology-video.html
http://libreboot.org/faq/#intel
>>52291393
What would be the difference between sshd and sshchan?
>>52291468
How do you redirect smb and ftp thrhough router? I tried a couple of times but I didn't get it.
>>52291541
That's an interesting setup.
Why kind of scripts are you running 24/7?
bump the polls
>>52291118
>>52291103
>>52292023
sshchan is a messageboard like this one. But you use it by sshing into a server, and making posts through a program that is run locally there.
>>52292023
>Why kind of scripts are you running 24/7?
I guess you can call them "web scrapers" for some personal projects. I don't want to miss any data, so that's why I run a VPS alongside my local RPi, just as a safety measure.
When does it make sense to create multiple Virtual Disks in a RAID5 array?
My first instinct would be to just have a single RAID5 VD and just create multiple partitions on that, but my PowerEdge R730 came with five Virtual Disks by default so I'm wondering what's a good reason for such a setup.
I have ten 1TB SATAs and I'm using RAID5 with a hardware RAID controller.
>>52291961
holy shit
>>52292091
Daily reminder that you should be using a RAIDZ instead of any other RAID5 array solution.
So the network manager issue still remains unsolved
>>52292117
RAID-Z3 if possible :)
As a Mint babby, should I go with Debian testing or Fedora if I want to try out some more advanced distro?
>>52292053
That sounds really cool. I will look foward to it.
>>52292090
I don't know why but looks really nice to me to see someone who bothers to take all the measures to be safe.
>>52291118
>>52291103
Polls
Anyone here have a suggestion?
>>52292086 >>52291572
>>52292196
Just go with Arch
>>52292196
Debian is shitty for desktops. Go with Fedora or Arch.
>>52291764
>so this means there are still NSA backdoors when using Linux?
Of course they are you dumbass, they're platform independent because they're embedded in the hardware.
RdRand is compromised.
Intel Remote management.
installed mint
what now
>>52292023
>How do you redirect smb and ftp thrhough router? I tried a couple of times but I didn't get it.
with smb, you don't. bad idea.
for ftp, you need port forwarding for both the port your ftp server is running on and the passive ports it's using. for example, with proftpd you'd set ports like this:Port 1234
PassivePorts 42000 42100
and then forward the 42000-42100 range from your router.
you might also need this, with your IP:MasqueradeAddress 12.34.56.78
>>52292219
http://neetco.de/chibi/sshchan
>>52292196
As a Mint babby, you already used Debian because Mind is a fork of Ubuntu, which is a fork of Debian. For advanced and bleeding edge fresh stuff go Arch. Nobody is using Fedora, except the one guy who will reply now.
>>52292270
>>52292299
Thanks, I guess I'll try Fedora first and Arch some time later.
>>52292318
gentoo
>>52292196
debian testing is fine
>>52292318
Learn the terminal.
>>52292318
use it, install stuff, test stuff, learn stuff, be amazed.
>>52292405
>Daemons And System
>Not "service name restart" etc
>>52292405
>2004
this could need an update
What do I do?
>>52292318
rejoice
>>52292623
checksums.
And try with the other boot options.
>>52292623
usb/dvd?
So I have a problem I never found a solution for:
tl;dr compton issues
I want two things at once:
- clean region selection when usingimport screenshot.png
- no tearing when watching movies
Only one thing works:
- clean region selection using --backend xrender
- no tearing using --backend glx
What do?
>>52292196
Use sabayon, it's gentoo based but really user friendly
>>52292804
i use compton --backend glx --paint-on-overlay --vsync opengl-swc and it just werks
>>52292831
Just tried it.
When I use that, the import selection is fucked (lines disappear, reappear randomly). Happens also when using scrot or xrectsel.
>>52292751
Usb
>>52292405
OCD intensifies.
>>52292518
Maybe old, but shit still works like it should.
>>52292878
try dvd.
For the last year I've had no luck booting any linux installation from a usb (old laptop).
While a CD/DVD disc works just as God told it to work.
Also make sure the iso isn't damaged, run a sha256sum on the file and compare with what the distro's download page says
I've been trying to install Linux Mint alongside Windows. I've tried this distro on a VirtualBox and it works fine. But when trying to install it with an USB my BIOS just hates me. I can either get to grub menu if I boot in EUFI mode, or to simple installation menu if I boot in Legacy mode, but in either one if I choose to run the OS or to check the disk I just get a couple generic errors and weirdest graphical artifacts. It works just fine on a different PC. I think the Compatibility mode option did work, but I just ended up with a command line; I don't know what to do with it. Web searches doesn't really give much.
What else can I try? Do you think I should just stop trying to make it work on this PC? It's an old 2010 motherboard but it runs other shit like Windows just fine.
All I can think of right now is connecting the monitor to the motherboard integrated gpu instead of the actual gpu.
>>52292864
https://github.com/naelstrof/slop
>>52292864
Use maim. It uses slop as selector, it doesn't have any bugs with lines and stuff.
>>52291277
>>52291307
Looks like this is during boot, I had this problem yesterday, but I was booting off an external hdd. A restart fixed it for me.
>>52293031
try installing from a cd/dvd
>>52293068
Don't have an optical drive :/
>>52293092
Try a floppy drive
Hi /flt/
I am trying out Mint today as the first linux distro I've used in 10 years. I like the interface and how resource friendly the system is. I am wanting to do a dual boot with win7. I have 40gb win7 partition on my ssd and want to devote the other 80gb to Mint. The installer keeps asking me if i mean to install without swap space. Is it critical that i do? Should i create a third partition on my drive for swap space? If so, how much? I'd appreciate any help.
>>52293128
>hould i create a third partition on my drive for swap space? If so, how much? I'd appreciate any help.
How much RAM do you have installed and how much RAM do you usually consume?
>>52293128
You expect to use more RAM than you have? Then you need swap, or otherwise something resource-eating will get killed by the system.
Swap could be of any size you want it to be. Half as much RAM you have is a common choice.
Important thing: things could get real slow if you put swap on a slow drive (read as: not an SSD). When things get moved to swap they need to go out fast, or the system will be choppy during those periods.
>>52293149
>>52293232
Thanks. I actually took a shot in the dark and ram so I have 8 gig swap. It's unlikely that I'll use that much memory.... but I suppose too much never hurts. I did put the swap on the ssd though
>>52293031
Using integrated graphics chipset instead of the GPU worked. Now the installation doesn't properly detect the Windows partition. Great.
>>52293368
for the future reference
fuck swap
like seriously forget about it
this are some lame ass niggers that keep talking about swap the size of ram without mentioning that its only for hybernate bullshit
>>52293441
I've heard there are problems dualbooting if you installed windows with secure boot enabled
>>52291307
I didnt enter any command I just rebooted Arch and then this error came. I think there is no sda3 I made a mistake.
Is EncFS still the correct/best way to encrypt files for Dropbox/cloud storage or is there a better way now?
>>52293469
yeah i've already checked that. but there's actual google search hits about this issue, i'll be fine.
Why do distros store packages as binaries instead of source code?
Building binaries for Linux is a major pain in the ass because you have to support lots of different distros as well as lots of different architectures.
Is there any good reason not to store packages as source and then have the package manager compile them locally at install time? The only good reason I can think of is that installing from source would take a lot longer, but seeing as its a one-time affair that isn't a big deal.
(By the way, the reason I ask this is because for Haskell packages installed through cabal, it looks like cabal compiles from source, although I haven't been able to verify this so I could be totally wrong.)
don't let me fuck this up, /flt/
how do I add my own user to the sudo group and why is itroot ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALLinstead ofroot ALL=(ALL) ALL?
>>52293453
>fuck swap
>like seriously forget about it
Go away, retard.
>>52293770
Compiling does take a significant while, for example my laptop compiled ffmpeg for a good 40 minutes. That would also include compiling every time you update a program.
>>52293804
>>52293453
be friendly
>>52293770
>one-time affair
Yeah, one-time affair. One-time per every single package update. Gentoo fags might bear this, but not the normies.
>>52293770
>and then have the package manager compile them locally at install time?
You mean every single person who ever wants to install the package.
If you really want to you always have the option of downloading the source and compiling it yourself.
But for any non-trivial project that is going to take a considerable amount of time. Why should I wait 5 minutes to compile something that is going to be functionally identical to a ready made binary?
Also, if you actually compile with optimisation levels as high as package managers, it's going to take longer than you expect.
If you trust a distribution to put together a good OS, why wouldn't you also trust them to compile software well?
>>52293770
Because it takes a shitload of time.
Sure, small packages compile crazy fast, 2 minutes and you're done.
But let's imagine you get an update for a behemoth like firefox?
With a PC that's few years old, 1h+ of your life gone because mozilla fixed a spelling error or some shit.
If you want a source based package management there's Gentoo for you.
>>52293804
if you are telling people to automaticly make swap its you who should get teh fuck away
fucking old faggots pretending its 2005 or something
>>52293543
Yeah, that might be the case. When you actually install, do double-check /etc/fstab and the whole grub configuration, I spent a while before realizing that I had grub.cfg in the wrong place.
The good thing about it is that you can fix anything with the install CD.
What is a task-manager like tool for Linux Mint?
As a scrub I feel somewhat uncomfortable having to search for processes with ps aux | grep eclipse each time something dies (yes eclipse I'm looking at you, stupid piece of shit) - and kill-9 random process ids that look like they got something to do with eclipse.
can anyone help me with this?
>>52293542
>>52293895
>hurrrrr everyone is a neet with 16GB of RAM and an arch installation taking 80MB at boot.
I have a 2GB of RAM and when I'm working I've managed to make use of swap.
Fuck off
>>52293804
If you can name a valid reason why you'd want to use swap space rather than just be unable to load another program when free RAM runs out I'll give you $300.
Oh and assume no SSDs because that's still fucking stupid, unless you want to destroy your limited number of writes.
>>52293921
I use ii
>>52293935
>if you are telling people to automaticly make swap
>telling automatically
nigger go complain to your parents that school didnt teach you how to read
>>52293935
Do you have any idea how fucking slow swap space is?
If anyone is configuring their own machine, from scratch, they probably have at least 4GB of RAM.
If you need more RAM, then get more fucking RAM.
>inb4 muh photoshop/video editor
Any heavy duty memory user will just create it's own fuckhuge temp files, or will require it's own scratch disk.
HDD swap space is a remnant of the 90s
>>52292418
>>52292448
desu I dont even use computer
>>52293919
gnome-system-monitor
>>52293919
http://goodies.xfce.org/projects/applications/xfce4-taskmanager
>>52293998
watch porn on iceweasel then.
>>52293919
There's htop but it's command line only.
If you want a GUI there's gnome-system-monitor.
>>52293919
>ps aux | grep eclipse
hol up
usepgrep -a eclipse
instead
>>52293770
Not really a one-time affair because you have to recompile the entire program every time there's an update.
>>52294005
>>52294025
>>52294085
bloat
>>52293919
>>52294066
The one and only: https://github.com/hishamhm/htop
>>52294111
>do i fit in yet /g/
>>52293560
I did quite a bit of research on this not long ago and it seems like EncFS is still the way to go. There's also eCryptFS which is pretty much the same thing but I found EncFS easier to use.
There's also an Android app for EncFS.
>>52294111
They said task-manager like. I assumed that meant with a GUI.
I also assumed most people in this thread were able to read.
>>52294066
>but it's command line only
You say that like it's a bad thing.
>>52294111
>not using wizard mode vtop
https://github.com/MrRio/vtop
>>52294171
>100% cpu just for the application itself
>>52294111
>pgrep
>bloat
o-okay
Would anyone know why my .zlogin is sourced at startup on my Fedora desktop but not my Debian laptop?
I'd like to put a few environment variables in there.
>>52294171
Do you really need two graphs that take up 75% of an ready cramped screen? The priorities for this application are out of order the process list should be the biggest thing
I am trying to write a shell script to pull all the links from an html link, and wget the linked documents.
Using grep I can trim the page to the links that I want, but I am unsure of how to effectiley remove (or ignore) the < href=... stuff out of the way.
Any tips? Or should I go to the programing thread?
>>52294441
Use SED.
>>52293980
>>52293993
>slow
Unrelated.
Swap is the last resort so that your system wouldn't go killing processes left and right when you go over the RAM limit for whatever reason.
>get more ram
Unrelated.
What if I physically can't? No more slots, or just an embedded system -- doesn't matter, "moar ram, faggot!" is just not how it works.
Any actual arguments against swap?
Nobody said swap was rainbows and unicorns, but not having it is a very real problem.
>>52285013
Is that Sam Hyde's father?
>>52294441
grep is more powerfull by using the -P, --perl-regexp flag.
Example:inb4 ()
{
while :; do
printf "Updating ... \r";
wget -qO - "$1" | grep --color=auto -Po 'i.4cdn.org/\w+\/(\d+\.(?:jpg|png|gif|webm))' | uniq | xargs wget -nv -nc;
printf "Idle ... \r";
sleep ${2:-60};
done
}
>>52294171
Holy shit, that's what GUIs are for. I can't even imagine how much CPU power that thing wastes for every screen update just to move stuff real pretty.
>>52294481
>Any actual arguments against swap?
because of your swap stand guy above actually has 8GB swap partition you mongoloid
>>52294265
Oh, it turns out that while my user's login shell was zsh, root's login shell was bash.
Is there a downside to changing the root user's login shell to zsh as well?
>>52294540
Yes, you go 100% incompatible hipster.
>>52294513
Some guys just want to have fun.
>>52294529
Did you even read the thread? He created it before he read what I posted.
Still, there's no actual problem with swap, even if there's 8GB of it.
I have 8GB of swap too. Before I could upgrade to 16GB of RAM, I saw the swap usage go all the way up to 6GB a couple of times.
>inb4 literally why
Because some stuff needs to sit in the background while a heavy task is in the RAM.
>>52294584
Ain't nothing wrong with that. But just use htop for any actual practical purpose, except for when you want some CLI eye candy.
>>52294504
>>52294466
Thanks for the advice. Both of those look, quite suitable indeed.
>>52294625
Not him, but
is there something like htop for network traffic?
Looking for something where I can see connections and easy block programs phoning home just like kill in htop.
>>52294481
No, the last resort is programs just running out of memory.
What do you think happens if something tries to malloc and there's no free RAM? BSOD? kernel panic?
No, it just fails to malloc anything, and the program should be able to deal with that.
In most cases, it'll just kill itself.
Relying on slow as fuck swap when really you want to reduce your RAM usage to within reasonable limits is not the right solution.
>>52294302
Come the fuck on, it's useless shit for ricers so they can show off in deskshit cirklejerk.
Noone besides them uses. top/htop/pgrep/ps + whatever your DE ships with works just fine and already exists on your system.
>>52294676
>I'd rather let my work go to shit because program killed itself after an unsuccessfull attempt to get some memory rather than just wait a little longer for it to finish and make use of slow swap
>>52294662
Read this: http://sed.sourceforge.net/sed1line.txt
Sed is the ultimative tool, can fully replace grep, head, tail, cut, etc. Never forget you can also chain like this: sed 's/cuck/CLUCK/g; s/^/start/'.
You will definly fall in love with sed when you're into shell scripting.
>>52294674
iftop. There are billions more, look up "network htop".
>>52294676
>Relying on slow as fuck swap
That's your problem, mate. I put my swap on an SSD, I just wait five seconds when the system needs to offload a gig or two.
>>52294725
This guy gets it. I couldn't phrase it better.
>>52294441
There's html2text if you don't want to go balls deep into scripting. Just do:
curl <url> | html2text to get plain text.
okay so i'm fairly certain that xorg is breaking my trackpad and keyboard and i have no clue how to fix it
kb/m is fine in grub but when i load to my display manager, they don't work. a usb kb/m works fine.
any ideas?
I'm really enjoying my numix circle icon theme, but I can't stand how the pause/play/previous/next buttons look in my Banshee player.
Is there any way to make Banshee pick default Mint icon theme icons rather than those? If not, what would be the best way to deal with this?
