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Other business laptops are also welcome in /tpg/ (e.g. Dell Latitude/Precision, HP EliteBook/ZBook).
New 2016 ThinkPads announced:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/9889/lenovo-refreshes-thinkpad-lineup-at-ces
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2016/01/big-ram-laptops-are-abundant-as-lenovo-does-its-skylake-refresh/
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If you're looking for purchase advice, READ THE BUYERS GUIDE FIRST. Then post, stating budget and requirements (e.g. size and performance).
Don't buy anything OTHER THAN T, X AND W/P SERIES if you want the Real ThinkPad Experience™
Recommended models:
T420 - 14", normal size
X220 - 12.5", lightweight
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Why ThinkPad? (also applies to other business laptops)
>They’re really cheap when you buy a used one.
>Keyboards feel excellent while typing (yes, even the newer ones).
>Great durability thanks to the inclusion of rollcages and use of glass fiber reinforced plastic for the chassis. The keyboard is splash proof and spilled liquids will drain out.
>Utilitarian design - e.g. indicator LEDs, 7 row keyboard layout on older models.
>Docking solutions that easily turns your laptop into a desktop.
>Easy to repair, upgrade and maintain thanks to readily available service manuals for almost every model. Spare parts are easy and cheap to obtain.
>The best trackpoint (that red thing on the middle of the keyboard). Great for those who type a lot or hate swiping their fingers all over a touchpad.
>Excellent GNU/Linux & *BSD support.
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Used ThinkPad Buyers Guide:
http://ktgee.net/tpg
EPP discount for new ThinkPads (USA & Canada only, usually 15%+ off):
http://pastebin.com/wumE7L2f
ThinkWiki - Info on ThinkPads and running GNU/Linux on them:
http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ThinkWiki
ThinkPad service guides w/ tutorial videos:
https://www.lenovoservicetraining.com/
>51nb finally released their X62
>X61 with new motherboard, Broadwell i7
>Costs $4.5k
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ThinkPad-X61-16GB-RAM-256G-SSD-500G-HDD-OEM-Broadwell-i7-5600U-UNIQUE-X62-/301840169167
>>52266606
>listing removed
It would've been a great sleeper I guess
Has anyone here had a T61 fail them and fix it like this guy did (if the story is even true):
http://www.2rosenthals.net/wordpress/the-strangest-laptop-repair-ive-ever-done-127/
I've heard of baking/freezing components like Graphics cards and HDDs but how in the hell do the capacitors survive that?
>>52266602
is a titanium top z60t for $35 a good buy? Only thing missing is the hd.
T420 coming in the mail tomorrow
TOKE UP MUH FUGGUHS
got my used 500 im pist I need a new battery ill post about it.
Sixth for TLP really improving battery life in Linux.
>>52266880
>im pist
are you retarded?
>excellent GNU/Linux support
Except when you have an NVIDIA one. Good luck entering sleep mode successfully.
>tfw buying a new thinkpad direct from lenovo
Fuck the rules.
>>52266826
not a thinkpad and I wasnt risking owen, but in similar matter I successfully baked few graphics cards with halogen lamp
also, I got my first chinese power supply explosion yesterday
>tfw converted mother, gf, gf's sister, and several friends to ThinkPad.
>tfw gf becomes more interested in technology in general.
>tfw she's not half bad at it.
I've reached bliss.
IPS T520 for mother, T420 and X220t with SSDs for gf and I respectively.
>>52267309
>gf
Normie.
>>52267309
tried through passive-agressive approach convvert my sis to thinkpads
>mfw she is looking at dells
well, at least it upgrade from eee
>>52266902
It did on my X220, battery life pretty much the same as on Windows
should I cop
>>52270946
>even considering shitlet keyboards
Post your power usages.
X220 (Arch linux)
8-9 W idle (light browsing)
11-13 W with YouTube videos
DAILY REMINDER
>>52269159
make sure she gets a Latitude
Hello /tpg/
I got my first Thinkpad today. It's an x220t. Speccy related. Immaculate except for the outer housing being chipped on the front left corner.
I'm going to use it for school so it's going to have Windows on it as the main partition. I was wondering if I should keep 7 on it or use 10.
inb4
>windows
gotta run the proprietary crap for my courses and might as well pirate office, I do most of my work on my desktop anyway
Can you buy from sellers in the US if you're a yuropoor? I want a x220 but the ones on the Yurop eBay don't have the upgrades like IPS or whatver it's called.
>>52272241
If the seller states that they'll ship to wherever you are and you can pay them the way they require then yeah no problem. Even if they don't have the shipping option listed you could try messaging them.
>>52272293
thanks anon.
>>52270946
>i5-3210M
if you use VMs, you should go for a 3320M since it has VT-d.
and ask the seller if the laptop can boot to BIOS without asking password.
>>52270970
>shitlet keyboards
then don't use it
>>52271660
>11-13W with youtube videos
turbo off?
In a T430, I get 7-9W idle, and 11-14W while browsing(downclocking the GPU, otherwise the power goes to 17W!)
What's so great about the x220? Is it just a meme?
>>52272344
portable as fuck with great battery life without using shitty ULV processors and obviously excellent build and keyboard
>>52272368
got dam
>>52272344
its a meme but its a good meme
>>52272239
This is the corner damage. It makes the housing slightly askew and gently pressing on it puts it back into place without the damage causing it to depress further than it should so I'm not worried about it.
The express card slot looks fine but I can't no for sure until I put it to use.
>2016
>not buying glorious core i7 X61 with custom Broadwell-based motherboard
Is this over & dead or am I still able to get a 16:10 Thinkpad out of the present lineup somewhere?
>>52272522
If only.
Wait was that actually? Can I see what work was involved?
>>52272344
Got mine a few hours ago, first encounter with a thinkpad.
Honestly, it just seems like a machine that does every single thing I want it to.
Decent specs, amazing build quality, completely silent, awesome battery life. Add on top of that the build quality (I may be alone in thinking this, but this thing is sexy as fuck) and you have a machine that just ticks every box if you need a good Uni/work laptop.
Plus, it costs next to nothing. It has no marketing besides a small enthusiast community and the supply is far greater than the demand. I mean holy fuck, this thing is great.
>>52272566
>>52272600
Where did that board come from?
>>52272600
>>52272626
More info
http://translate.google.com/translate?depth=1&hl=en&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=zh-CN&tl=en&u=http://forum.51nb.com/thread-1646584-1-1.html
I've got $200 to spend on a thinkpad. Which one should I get?
>>52272611
China.
>>52272672
See the OP. You could find an x220 or T420 for that price easy.
>>52272293
as far as I know you'll also end up paying @ 20% VAT if you order from outside the EU
>>52272699
Is that how it works even for Ebay?
>>52272667
Can I buy one of these? Later?
>>52272722
it doesn't matter the site, you'll be charge extra at customs in your country. don't you think more people would order from over the seas if it was no extra charge? the transport is usually @ 15-20$ tops
>>52272816
I guess I'm not used to that. I rarely order things from over seas and I can't recall being charged more for getting things from Hong Kong, China, India or South Korea to here in America.
>>52272870
I was talking exclusively to EU buying outside of EU. I bought something from Japan and got charged 24% extra the value of the product @ customs.
>>52272912
That sucks. You should dissolved that bullshit :^)
Are there any 13"-14" notebooks with discrete graphics other than the Alienware 13 and Razer Blade?
>>52272979
yes
>>52272993
That helps, thanks.
Hi tech guyse!
I'm to spend a nice amount of moniez (~$2000) on a laptop that's got to be mine for scientific work. By boss wants me to go MAC because of "hurr durr keynote works in conferences" and "everyone has it".
I discard those arguments as trash and search for alternatives to work with Unix-based systems.
Can $2000 ThinkPads compete with MACs in terms of longevity, weight and performance?
What about damage repairs? Macs are apparently pretty nasty when it comes to do that, are Thinkpads better in that way?
On performance: I'd want enough RAM to test out some 3D simulations that will run fully on Clusters anyway, and playing with the thought of keeping the pre-installed Windows for Games.
I don't need any specific advice on whether X, W, or ... but my question is essentially Apple vs. Lenovo.
Thankx in advance!
>>52272999
any time
>>52272239
I thought I read in a /tpg/ thread that 10 ran better on an x220 t or regular but I can't find it in the archive.
>>52272979
yes:
my ass
>>52272816
Items that cost less than 10€ are exempt from the import tax. Individual EU states can increase this up to 22€. Gifts up to 45€ are also exempt.
You can read about it here: http://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/resources/documents/common/publications/studies/execsummary_lvcr-study.pdf
Ebay tells how much additionally you need to pay to cover the tax. The customs duties are fixed on their end.
On the ocassion that an item doesn't have the import duties covered, the customs may actually open it to determine the price and then charge you.
Chink-tier tricks can be employed to somewhat avoid paying the tax, like asking the seller to list the item as a gift or a small goods that costs 10 or less euros when shipping. I remember reading customs will overlook such items only if they come from China, anything from the West has a high chance of getting caught.
Shipping a laptop from USA definitely costs more than 20$.
>>52272699
VAT applies to the shipping price also.
>>52273011
T460p is probably the best you can get out of newer line. Remember the letter p, the other model T460 is probably just a more shoddy version (as with T440p vs T440).
I WOULD however suggest to look at HP's Zbook workstations and Dell Precision. If you're not bothered by a less than perfect trackpoint then check them out.
>>52273403
the problem with HPs and Dells is part availability in some places outside the US. Where I live, thinkpad parts are common and easy to find.
>>52273403
thanx man.
What about those Yoga-pads? Seems like pretty cool stuff I could do with them for presentations, but do they have such flaws as the guide says the R L Z E series have?
>>52273901
what about let's say Europe?
>>52274054
If it doesn't say thinkpad before the yoga part then it's just another consumer tier thing. Not that the thinkpad yogas are anything special. They also have shitty keyboard. No idea about the newest ones announced.
>>52274054
There was an anon 2 threads ago that got warned about power connectors dc-in or whatever bullshit is called lol. They break on some yogas.
With normal thinkpad series you have the IBM engineering, or whatever IBM legacy that still remains so you won't be having too much issues besides cracked palmrests.
Postin!
8440p:
i5 520m
320gb mechanical drive
6gb ram
6 cell battery
x220:
i7 2620m
8gb ram
120gb SSD
9 cell battery
Thinkpad Yoga 12:
i5 4500u
8gb ram
1080p touchscreen
240gb SSD
I dont use the yoga that much, my wife uses it mostly. I prefer the x220 but 720p screen is pretty miserable and the 8440p is just used to play music on when I have company. Probably going to sell it for whatever I can get out of it. Also, What operating system do you guys use on your x220? I tried elementary OS but its pretty meme.
>>52272320
Turbo off.
How do you downclock the GPU and why you're doing it, shouldn't it be automatically controlled by the driver?
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>>52274143 get the fuck out normie faggot
>>52274771
>no gnome
>>52274775
guys mad about something
>>52274795
Oh sorry. I didn't account for the faggots that may have been roaming this board.
>>52273011
Would p50/70 be good for this guy?
Lenovo ThinkPad X200S
3GB RAM DDR3
Intel Core2Duo SL9400 1.86 GHz
HDD 250GB
3G Module
Bluetooth
12.1" LED
WXGA 1280x800
New Charger
Looks close to new
"Good" battery life
I just asked him what good battery life means, what should I be aiming for? Is this a decent purchase for 100$?
>>52275174
I don't really plan to game, just watch some 720p videos and maybe mess with some linux on it.
X220
+ Core i7-2620M Prozessor
+ 160GB SSD
+ 8GB RAM
+ 12,5" TFT 125.37ppi
+ Intel HD 3000 Graphics
300€
is this a good deal?
I received an ls510 recently, I just wanted to say the battery life is incredible. It says it has thousands of recharge cycles (had it used) and its wealth is about 60% but still it lasts more than 3 hours of light browsing. Yesterday I left the poor thing on a balcony from 5 to 8.30pm projecting a video on a church on battery, screen off and when I brought it home it had enough battery for another hour of browsing.
>>52275295
A little more than fair, if it is in good condition and you can afford it buy it.
>>52275295
got an i7/8GB with a 240GB SSD for $200
I'd do it.
>>52275396
>>52275447
Is the sub HD-Screen okay for working and watching a movie now and then?
Or will it melt my eyes?
>>52275483
I think it's fine for my daily uses as a student. I type some notes or put slides up on it or watch a video just fine. I definitely couldn't do all my work on it though so I have a desktop. Also 1366x768 is an HD resolution.
>>52274771
Openbox, tint2, feh. DE's are for casuals.
>>52266602
I'm gonna buy the t460p while you poorfags will have to struggle with your weak machines hahahaha.
>>52275199
>>52275174
Please respond.
What battery life should I be aiming for?
Is this a decent purchase for 100$?
I have a Lenovo t420. It came with winblows 7 on the HDD. I had to put BIOS in "legacy" mode in order to do away with microsuck and put gnu + Linux on it.
My question is this:
I have a 250gb SSD with another Linux based OS on it (Debian based), but whenever I put the SSD in it, BIOS recognizes it but it will not boot up into the SSD. I don't know why.
Anyone of the TP /g/urus have any idea as to why this is? And how can I go about fixing it?
I know that the SSD works because it boots up fine in other computers I have put it in. It is aggravating for obvious reasons. I would prefer to use the SSD instead of the HDD.
Any help in the right direction would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance my fellow /g/entlemen.
>>52275719
I would get it. Wouldn't be my first choice but that seems to be a fairly decent deal.
Go ahead and snatch it up. Upgrade it to the max. In every way. Then you will/should be good to go.
>>52274771
>Linux environment
are you retarded
>>52275835
>Upgrade it to the max
What would that imply?
Alright, instead of buying a 2in1 device I'm considering buying a tablet and a separate laptop. I'm thinking about Galaxy Note Pro (can't find black version anywhere though) and some X series Thinkpad. The problem is the only ones that have any higher res options than 1366x768 are X200/X201, which is pretty old, and X240, which is damn expensive and ugly. I could settle for the X201 but what are some alternatives I should consider?
>tfw got my dock in a snazzy thinkpad branded box and with a key i didn't expect at all
all in all, a good day today.
>>52275944
Oh, and I'd rather not go beyond 12" as I want it to fit nicely with the tablet into a bag. 4 hour battery is enough.
Guys I'm thinking weather I should get a t460s or x260. Is a x260 screen too small for work? Oppinions, experience?
>>52276410
>too small for work?
What kind of work?
>>52276497
regular shit for uni. word, excel, shitposting etc..
>tfw can't find X201s anywhere
>>52276728
Should be fine if you're doing one or two things at a time
I'm getting into saving as much power as possible. What tweaks have you done to optimize performance besides tlp + powertop?
>>52276947
>tlp + powertop
>+
I was under the impression you do one or the other. If you are going to that length, you should maybe get a newer/bigger batt.
>>52269159
Old EEEs are qt.
Just ordered the t420 for $199 from newegg, what's the refurbished condition usually like on theirs? I'll send that fucker back if I see it's been through shit. I just want something in very good to like new condition. Am I asking too much
>>52277431
>getting jewed hard
>>52277482
bad buy?
x230
>i5 3320m
>8GB RAM
>TN panel
>320GB 7200 rpm HDD
>Wi-Fi + bluetooth + webcam + finger scanner
>9 cell battery with 90% of capacity
>Like new
How much would you pay for this?
>>52277934
200 woolongs
Ordered a P70 with the xeon. Did I do well?
>>52277981
Why do you need that computer for?
Web browsing?
>>52277961
>wolong
top lel, I almost forgot about that motherfucker
>>52277996
>>52277996
Mostly data crunching projects where I don't want to rent EC2 time.
Probably some gaming too.
>>52278031
And you need the portability? Because you could have bought a desktop for that.
>>52277981
Mobile workstations are a waste of fucking money.
And this is coming from someone posting from a M4800.
>>52278053
>And you need the portability?
Yes because I work with other people a lot.
>>52278138
>buy a cheaper/lighter laptop
>build a powerful pc
>remote in to the powerful pc
>>52277934
230
>>52275873
Not particularly.
Are you, nigger?
>>52274663
I made an script which triggers when the laptop switches from battery to AC and viceversa. It basically doesecho 650 | tee /sys/class/drm/card0/gt_max_freq_mhz
when it's running on battery andecho 1200 | tee /sys/class/drm/card0/gt_max_freq_mhz
on AC.
>shouldn't it be automatically controlled by the driver?
Yes, the driver switches frequencies fine, but if I underclock the CPU and disable turbo(with intel_pstate and tlp), the GPU is not aware of the turbo state and it wants to go over 650 MHz, boosting the CPU in the process (even when no_turbo is set!). That's why I had to set the frequency limits manually. 650MHz is the max. non-turbo frequency for my 3320M.
>>52278956
Is turning off turbo in a x230 a big toll on performance? Is the battery life worth it?
>>52279035
ain't worth the gains
>>52275904
RAM, biggest battery, etc. Upgrades that you can do easily. Max it out on the simple upgrades.
>>52275773
Come on my people....Is there ANY way that I can get a SSD working in my t420? This is last upgrade I plan to do.
Any help would be great. Please help another /g/entleman out.
>X1 carbon vs surface book
thoughts? I know they're different but the primary choice would be for a win10 based comp for work purposes. handwriting is shit but tablets can be handy at the TSA checkpoint.
>>52280250
details on the SSD model would be helpful. might be a driver issue.
>>52279035
It reduces about 3-5 W.
>>52275773
>legacy
no need for that. Only keep secureboot off.
>BIOS recognizes it but it will not boot up into the SSD
does the SSD have a MBR and bootloader(or EFI system partition) installed?
Also update your BIOS
>>52277136
tlp only configures the system to draw less power. powertop is used to measure how much power the system is using.
>>52274771
not enough options
Selling my ThinkPads on eBay, come bid and shitpost if you guys want.
>>52280305
I had no problem when I took my X61T and Pixel to El Salvador, they just like it removed from your bag, maybe the pixel saved me from them turning on my X61T.
There will be a tablet version of the X1 Carbon coming soon, or at least rumored.
>>52280336
Just a standard SanDisk 240gb SSD. Not much information other than that. I have used them in many other PCs. Desktop (custom build) Asus gaming, Dell inspiron mini. It just doesn't work i n my t420. Can't figure out why. It is very annoying.
I would love to get it working. After that, I will have my t420 exactly how I want it. Unless....I can figure out how to put a fx6300 in it, but I doubt that is possible.
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>>52277934
$200 max
>>52280582
which ones? Also how can I get there?
>>52280651
Have you tried bringing back the BIOS to default settings?
>>52280696
/usr/x-sauc
>>52280820
No I have just left it in legacy. Should I put it in, then put the BIOS back in the default?
If so, I will try that and report back.
Thanks.
>>52273146
Windows 10 does run better on an x220t.
Can confirm, it's what I'm doing.
> and I bought the X220T new, maxed out, right from lenovo
> when you fall for /g/'s Thinkpad hype and lenovo's marketing hype and spend around $2000 on a dinkpad
>>52274143
I have almost the same lineup as you.
Weird. And I thought I left /g/ forever.
>>52280696
>http://www.ebay.com/sch/x-sauc/m.html?item=262228086385&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2562
W700ds, 365XD/755CE, 701CE, X1C2, SXGA+ X60T.
Dunno if I would sell my A31p w/ numberpad, might list it on eBay for $500 lol
I'll have to list my 380Z/X, 770's, Qosmio (never used).
I have a lot of extra parts pulled from Core 2 Duo ThinkBads that are good to shit condition but I feel no one would want them.
Keeping the 235, S31, X31, X61, D620, 770ED/X, A22p so far.
>>52281016
Thanks anon
shit i forgot to post
I purchased a Libreboot X200 from Minifree a few months ago and I'd just like to comment a bit about my experiences with it, since I occasionally see people ask about it.
Shipping was relatively quick given that it was shipped overseas. The keyboard uses the UK layout which is a bit different but on the whole was quite easy to adjust to. There were a few signs of light use, as is to be expected with a used ThinkPad, but otherwise it was delivered in good condition and well-cleaned. If you're wiling to spend a little extra for a free-as-in-freedom machine, I would recommend Minifree. My only complaint was that I had to purchase a new 9-cell battery, as the one provided was small and made for shit battery life.
>>52281467
Thanks, I was curious. I hadn't thought about the keyboard layout. I assume Libiquity wouldn't have that problem for Americans.
>>52280582
What were you doing around here? El Salvador is pretty nice for tourists. An X220 goes for $320 on the craiglist equivalent,
>>52281366
Haha, I have just acquired them over time for no real reason other than they were cheap and I couldnt say no. good taste though brother! I actually got the x220 on craigslist for 30 bucks cause the mobo was bad. I bought a replacement on ebay for around 70 dollars and have a good machine.
>>52281542
Presumably. I'm an American myself. Libiquity started selling after I had already received mine from Minifree, or I'd likely have gone with them.
>>52281407
am I correct in interpreting your item description in that the SXGA+ screen can be transplanted to a regular X60T?
>>52281613
I have family so we were on vacation.
My family was afraid of us going out alone and getting killed by some heroin user.
It was fun, food tasted great, drank all day/night, but my stomach didn't like any food for the 14 days there lol
>>52281729
I believe you should be fine
>http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?t=115488
I believe it should be a lid swap.
>>52281407
I'm drooling but I just can't justify getting into it any more. That 701 though. I'd expect it to be snapped up soon anyway
>>52281822
Not so many heroin users, more like robbers and drunkards at night. I bet you loved pupusas, those are the best food we have. Please come again :)
So it turns out I can't run Oculus on my T420, despite you shitters claiming it "can do everything you need until 2025". Worthless piece of overprice garbage (I paid $CAD for it)
>>52282107
>caring about oculus
It's like you enjoy cocks.
>>52281998
I don't want to sell them but I have to buy a car lol
I figure I could get a 'good' deal sometime again, I could always get lucky and get another gem for scrap value like the S31 that stopped at my work.
>>52282036
Really? My family is paranoid of El Salvador, my mom didn't want any of us talking to anyone and we were all 'from here' even though we blatantly are not with how we dress/tattoos and speaking english.
Yeah those were the best papusas, its just a different thing, pretty kekworthy to buy beer cheaper at restaurants than at stores... even better when they don't serve beer and someone would go nab one for ya.
Would like to go back again.
>>52282184
Your mom has good judgement but people can be nice, if they seem too nice then they want to catch some money.
Best thing to do is to let a tour guide take you all over the country in small bus just for your family. They will know the good places where seafood is cheap and the view is great like volcanoes.
Just got a T530 in the mail today.
>Intel Core i5-3320M 2.60GHz
>8gb Ram
>180GB SSD
>Somewhat bad battery
>$300
Did I do okay?
>>52282388
Could've done worse. I had a T530 and really liked it.
>>52271660
T420 Antergos (lol)
~13W (wtf) while listening to music on speakers + heavy browsing.
Lowest I've ever gotten the consumption down to is ~6.5W when wifi is off and brightness low.
How did you get your usage so low? I've got TLP enabled and turbo off, but it's still quite high.
>>52277431
I'm wondering this too.. I'm still waiting for mine to arrive.
From the reviews it seems that the condition can fluctuate a bit, also the HDD are guaranteed to fail sooner rather than later.
>waiting 23 minutes for ban to expire to post this
>>52282184
That fucking W700ds looks awesome. Way outside my price range
How good is a x60s for doing tasks like word processing and watching 720p anime?
Who here buying X1 Carbon OLED?
>>52283357
Honestly once it passes the price of a W520 it becomes solely for collecting and not performance.
I mean the digitizer is really neat, but its just kind of odd drawing without looking at what you draw, unlike my X61T.
>>52282261
Well we have a lot of family members, so we visited them, it was nice having a kick at seeing the shotguns again, I went there about 17 years ago for my first time.
>tfw no thinkpad sitting next to your MP5
I feel bad for what some of those guards get paid though.
>>52282388
Meh, the battery is a bummer but it sounds like a nice deal.
>>52283887
Speaking of a W520, finally got mine up and running today. Moving is such a pain in the ass.
The other day I met a girl who purported to be a graphics designer, she bought a Lenovo Y50 because "muh dedicated graphics" but didn't bother to check whether or not the screen actually covered more than 50% RGB. My line of work doesn't even require colour accuracy and even I'd be pissed off with such a shitty screen. Thank god I have 95% gamut with a colorimeter so the colours in my spreadsheets and Chinese cartoons are absolutely perfect.
>>52284000
I kind of want to buy a professional colorimeter so I could do a calibrating service in san diego and all laptops I sell.
Hopefully in a few months I could get a W550s when they dip in price.
whats the best used laptop I can get thats smaller than an x220?
>>52284092
x201
>>52281467
trying to get an X200 so i can libreboot it myself, since I just need the SOIC 8 clip to do it.
Did you get a where did you get the new battery?
>>52284234
excuse the mini-stroke i had there.
>>52284234
They're on amazon.
I was thinking of getting a new computer. Only going to use it for coding and surfing. Is this a good deal for europe:
>x230
>Intel Core i7-3520M 2.80Ghz
>8 GB
>160GB SSD
>12.5" HD 1366x768 (IPS)
>W7-licence, don't really need it but bonus
>480€
or
>X1 Carbon
>Intel Core i5-3427U 1.8GHz
>4 GB DDR3 PC3 1600MHz
>128GB SSD
>14" HD+ 1600x900 IPS
>W7 licence
>540€
>>52281255
I have the same exact SSD in my main and ultrabay slots. Works pretty seemlessly. Try plugging it into your desktop to see if it works at all.
>>52284774
Get the x230. Convince him to take out the SSD and bring it down to $400.
There is very little on earth more comfortable than an x220/x230 ips.
Carbon is shit anyway. Shit specs, shit upgradability, shit build quality, shit keyboard. It is nice looking though.
>>52284774
>Original X1 Carbon
>IPS
Boy are you wrong man... There's a reason why the Broadwell ThinkPads were kind of hit and miss...
The X230 will destroy that thing in performance and it won't downclock either when it gets hot.
Hell, I don't even think the X1C even comes with a SD Card reader.
>>52284774
I would go for the x230 fellow eurofag. But 480 is too expensive
>>52284905
This
Is it even possible to find a X201s these days? I just want some non-shit 12" laptop with a resolution higher than 1200x800. I'm even consdering buying all the parts separately and assembling it.
sup tpg
I have an x201, i5 4g ram. It's been holding up nicely but can't really handle strenuous tasks so I'm looking to upgrade. Should I just add more ram or replace with an ssd or what?
Not really sure what to do, never considered upgrading since I bought it. Any advice is mad appreciated bros
>>52285827
It might be worth a look at a new ThinkPad. If you still want the mobility, don't go any higher than an X230, but if you need more than that, consider the W520, i5 or i7 depending on what "strenuous tasks" you have to do. But no matter what, an SSD would be a great thing to implement in any ThinkPad you're using.
>>52285986
Hmm, I might just try an ssd as the sole hd. And the tasks being hosting a server and running an ide while also monitoring shit with consoles running pretty much all day, also dual monitors. Don't really want to upgrade as it works ok it just has some fat delays some times
>>52285728
Yes, but be prepared to pay more as it's a really rare laptop.
The display had some production issues AFAIK so that's why a limited amount of X201s were produced compared to the X200s.
>>52286002
SSD is a fine start, and you always have the option to upgrade if that alone isn't enough. Good luck with it.
>>52286024
thanks m8
T430 i5-3320M Intel HD 4000, 8GB RAM, 500GB HDD for £200
or
A two-year-old W520 i7 with 256GB Samsung SSD and 180GB HDD caddy, DVD-RW (£90 by itself) for £250?
>>52285728
>>52286005
>>52286005
I bought one on ebay recently, it was pretty cheap. At the time there were a whole bunch available, for reasonable prices. I never got the impression they were rare. Screen is garbage though, like all thinkpads. I wish that higher quality aftermarket screens were available.
>>52286042
Depends on your use case. Do you have the need for a mobile workstation with an i7? If you aren't doing anything intensive enough to require it, no point in spending the money on it unless you want the options.How are the conditions of them?
>>52286058
No, they are definitely rare compared to other models.
Not W701ds rare, but rare enough to command a higher price than if they were common.
>>52286092
Fuck, I just found a B grade one for 260$ (including shipping). There aren't any X201s versions with screen res lower than WXGA+, are there?
I installed Arch on my x230 tablet but the mute button and the screen backlight buttons are not working. I tried the fixes from Arch Wiki but nothing seems to work. Did anyone else have this problem and fixed it somehow?
I did everything on this site:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Lenovo_ThinkPad_X230
>>52286463
G-guys, should I go for it? It's the 2.13GHz version, 4GB RAM and some 320GB HDD which I'll replace anyway.
>>52286463
>>52286807
Alright, after a little digging on the thinkwiki I found out it might be 1280x800 screen after all. Will wait until the seller responds.
does anyone know if this is a 6 cell or 9 cell? from a t430
I've been lurking tpg for months and I think this is the one I want:
>X220t
>i7 2.8 Ghz
>8GB
>320GB HDD
>1366x768 IPS
>Windows 7 license
>€269
I asked if he could lower the price by not including Windows. How much would you pay for this?
>>52287155
That's a 6 cell.
>>52287169
if you want a good laptop you want a macbook pro. if you want a memebook, you get a thinkpad. i am not joking.
>>52281407
>$70 for a 701c.
Damn, you got jewed the fuck out of. I sold 2 unbootable piles of shit for $210 each.
>>52287169
It's so-so. You *are* getting an i7 BUT you don't want an i7. Because despite the TDP being the same, the i7 runs hotter for little performance gain. Also unlike the regular X220, you don't get USB 3.0 anyway
Chances are because he's not lenovo, he can't not include the windows sticker and thus give a discount as it's tied to the machine and he won't gain anything from doing so
If it was somehow brand new and unopened, $400 wouldn't be *too* unreasonable, even with added Europe prices. Try to haggle and see if you can shave 30-50 euros or something, maybe more just for the sake of it
Do any of Dell's business laptops come with backlit keyboards, or am I stuck with their XPS line if I can't stop night blogging?
Send help plz.
$120 in the red.
Paypal.me/BMCJ
>>52287781
sent ;)
>>52287781
That's, like, two half and halfs. Don't be lazy.
I don't know if I should take an X220 i7 with USB3 and then replace the screen with an IPS one since I can't find any with these specs on ebay or take a T420s with higher resolution and screen size and say goodbye to IPS. I do mostly reading and programming. What sholud I do? I don't want to be ext. screen-dependent.
I've seen people putting a FHD screen in the X220. It would be awesome but indications are in fucking nippo-china-korean. I hate this world.
Left to right x220 380e and 755ce
The 380 has a cd rom drive but the 755 has a much nicer screen and keyboard i just neet a new battery and the 755 is perfect.
>>52281407
your intl shipping is too expensive.I want the 755 and the 701.
>>52282677
How did you turn off turbo?
Thinkpad designer has died at the age of 83. Mourn him with the best designs of Thinkpads
>>52284060
>colorimeter
>calibration service
What you need is a spectrophotometer (i1 Pro), they're more expensive but they don't drift as much as colorimeters and they're very accurate.
Anyone know the best chinese batteries for the T420? Do not feel like spending $70 for genuine.
>>52282107
Oculus is a gimmick, just like touchscreens were before the first iPhone
>>52288054
dont get the i7 x220. It's barely any faster than the i5 but produces a ton more heat and fan whine.
>>52287009
All X201s (not the regular X201) are 1440x900, that's why they are hard to get hold of because the panel had supply problems
How is the t540p compared to 530. I don't care about the price difference only want to know how the 540p is better or worse other then cpu power. Also how is Intel hd 4000 compared to Intel hd 4600.
First off, I know it's not a thinkpad and I apologize.
I just got a yoga 2 pro off ebay for 400.
I7, 256 ssd, 8g ram, almost 4k I believe
Did I do good?
>>52288644
Thank you anon but I would get that only for the USB3 bonus. Would downclocking do the trick?
>>52288927
i5 and i7 dual cores have the same 35w top so the heat output would be similar
Wouldn't surprise me if the used the same dies but the i7 can reach higher clocks at the same or lower voltage
>>52288927
What you want is an expresscard to usb 3.0 adapter. Gives you two usb 3.0 ports right off the bat. I have one and it works well.
>>52288759
it's like people enjoy ripping themselves off
>>52288956
So you're telling me I shoud just continue looking for an IPS i7?
>>52288957
As far as I know expresscard won't give you the same power output as integrated USB3 nor the same bandwidth. And I would like to just carry my laptop, not my laptop with a bunch of expresscards.
>>52289075
You are not carrying anything around. It is something that goes into your laptop to replace the expresscard placeholder in your laptop.
I mean unless you are connecting an external ssd to your x220, I doubt you have a device capable of utilizing the full usb 3.0 speed. I get like 70 r/w on my fast flashdrives so I am pretty happy.
>>52289164
Right. Thank you. I found some people on the Internet claiming that USB3 over expresscard is shit.
How are you with reading on that screen?
>>52289130
Read the OP.
>>52289233
It is sort of shitty because when you pull your flashdrives out, you can sometimes take out the adapter also due to the way it connects and stays in the laptop.
768p at 12.5 inches is fine, but I have been spoiled by better IPS FHD screens on other laptops. Do not expect a good quality panel, even the IPS ones are subpar compare to $100 chromebooks. It's the one and only gripe I have with thinkpads.
bought a t400 for $35 with free shipping, I plugged in a ssd with xubuntu already on it from a old t400. Everything works... however the keys 9, o, l and > doesn't work. Replace another keyboard and it still the same problem. Any ideas how to fix this anons? Obviously this is not a keyboard problem. I plug in a usb keyboard and works find and able input those characters. Do i need to do a clean install? Also the only difference between the new t400 vs the old t400, is that cpu is slower on the new t400. TIA anons.
I just got an used x201s. This is my first thinkpad, best meme ever.
Thanks guys, other than the small trackpad and the shitty speaker, this lil motherfucker is perfect.
>>52288759
If you're not getting a business laptop, ChromeBook or MacBook, you done goofed.
>>52288099
Hmmm, I could add worldwide shipping instead of GSP.
>broke at the moment with no car
>hard to get boxes other than USPS
I'll fix the 701C listing
>>52288969
>>52289642
Why though, neither of you have supported your claim. It's like you enjoy memes or something?
>>52289352
Do you think that the expresscard is draining the battery even if there is no device connected?
Hey /tpg/, I have a dumb question.
I want to buy a 9 cell battery for my X220, and my two options are:
Buy from Lenovo directly (for about 193.00 CAD)
Or buy from Staples (for about 129.10 CAD).
So the question is, why exactly is it considerably cheaper to buy a battery from Staples than it is from Lenovo? As far as I can tell the cheaper option isn't some refurbished piece of trash, but the stark contrast still unsettles me. Can someone with more experience shed some light on the issue?
>>52289681
Not as much as you enjoy overpaying for memes
Am I right in saying that the x220 tablet ALWAYS comes with an IPS screen? There are only two option for screens on the thinkwiki and both of them are IPS but I rarely see them advertised like that on ebay. Is that because you can always assume it's an IPS anyway?
>>52290467
Yep, X220 tables ships with IPS screens only. Beware that tablets have no ThinkLight.
>>52290241
Not that I know of. And even if it was, it would be very little power draw.
>>52290491
Well, you bought me sir. But now I can't find any IPS i5 X220 on eBay from EU. ;_;
>>52290674
Buy a t420 and do a screen mod.
Not IPS, but good enough. I am using an alienware m14x screen and contrast and brightness is good enough (much better than original).
>>52290785
Can't I mod it with an IPS screen?
>Still no retro ThinkPad update
;_;
>>52290804
The display connector on the t420 cannot support it (either that, or there are no good IPS 1600x900 compatible panels).
The chinese have created a display adapter which can be used to connect a FHD IPS display (they have even managed a QHD screen). But these display adapter kits are hard to get a hold of from china, and there are apparenly lots of bugs (flickering).
>>52290825
Where have you been?
Lenovo is having difficulties finding the right display panels because no one makes 14" 16:10 IPS
>>52290859
Now I don't really know anymore what ThinkPad I want. Do you think that the default screen of the T420 is better than the X220? Which are the advantages of that laptop over the smaller brother?
Can anyone please provide a side by side size comparison for the X220 vs. T400? I am having trouble finding anything on google. Also which would you recommend
>>52290983
Unless you do a lot of side by side windows when coding, go with the x series. x series ips screen destroys any t series screen. I appreciate the smaller footprint and longer battery of the x series also.
>>52291005
x220. Not even a debate.
>>52282107
This is why we have altenate options. Should have bought a gear vr, works with any new samsung. Plus its only 100USD
>>52291046
>x220. Not even a debate.
can you please tell me why you feel this way?
>>52291005
>>52291046
>>52291092
Sorry, I meant the X200 (not the 220) vs the T400,
>>52291005
15.6", 14", 12.5"
Hey guys; I need to find a good, reliable laptop for a mate of mine.
He needs a cheap, durable laptop (with a good battery if possible!).
>internet browsing
>skype
>movies watching
>occasional games (not the new, heavy ones)
Small size and battery are a priority.
The budget is around 100 dollars. In a second world country.
>>52291228
so left to right T400, X200, something else?
>>52291326
>15.6"
>t400
someone hasn't been doing their research
>>52291228
T530, T430, X220
TN, TN, IPS
>>52289681
This is a ThinkPad thread, not a Lenovo thread or consumshittop thread, why should we even bother with your shitposting laptop.
We don't need to support our claims, everything not business/utilitarian is not hacker and not good and scoffed at, take it to the proper thread.
Plus the Yogas are all over the place with their operating systems, slate, convertables.
Just check sold listings on eBay for Yoga Pro 2 and you should be able to tell by yourself if you overpaid or not.
If the laptop serves you well for at least 6 years, the price doesn't even matter imo.
>>52291228
Macbook Pro 17", PowerBook Wallstreet, Macbook air beats edition.
When you going to upload more pix?
X230
>i5 3320M
>8GB Ram
>180G SSD
>IPS Panel
>Still under warranty until March
Paid 300 eurobucks for it, it's basically immaculate except for that scratch on the lid.
Not a bad deal right? I didn't mind paying a little extra for the peace of mind of it still being under warranty
>>52292126
Very nice, I sold X230 IPS laptops for $350 each so given euro tax on laptops, you did well.
Shit posting from my new t420. This thing is built like a tank, it looks completely unused as well. The 1600x900 panel is infinitely better than the small one on my x201 I sold.
http://minifree.org/product/libreboot-t400/
vs
http://minifree.org/product/libreboot-x200/
thoughts
>>52284888
Got it plugged in a gaymen laptop that never gets used with a dead battery. Battery is retarded exspensive. It is also retardedly large. Works fine in that laptop, won't work in t420.
It's strange.
>>52287009
Couldn't post because my Wi-Fi refused to work, but soon after I posted the seller replied it's 1440x900 indeed so I bought it. Should arrive in a week or two. Now gotta search for that black Note Pro. Or maybe some other tablet with Wacom digitizer, but it appears to me that Samsung dominates that niche.
>>52288741
Didn't see it up until now, but thanks anyway.
Though Thinkwiki list only 1440x900 option on X201s' page, it says it may also have another display on the screens list. Maybe they meant they're compatible?
So, my x230 with backlit keyboard came in, but the seller scammed me on the keyboard layout. It's Swedish.
Is there a possibility to replace just a few keys or just the print on the keys?
>>52292492
When you say it doesnt work, do you mean you cannot see it in the bios, or you cannot detect it in the OS once booted in.
Okay gee, help me with this shit.
I'm getting rid of my porrfag G3258+GTX660ti gayming setup and I'm gonna use a thinkpad as my main and the only computer. I can't decide between x230 and t430;
x230 with i5-3320m, 8GB RAM, 180GB SSD and non-IPS display.
OR
T430 with i7-3632qm, 16GB RAM, 180GB SSD, 1600x900 screen, NVS-5400m GPU, 2TB HDD in ultrabay caddy.
I fail to see a purpose of having a quad core i7 in a laptop, and I can't really justify having a much bigger laptop just to get a shitty GPU capable of basic gayming (fallout 4 works at hd resolution and low settings).
Which one should I get? Should I pull the trigger on x230 or go full wild on t430 and maximize it's specs?
>>52293658
Neither laptop is adequate for gaming. For the rest of your argument, do you want portability or power?
a thin purple line developed on the screen of my t420
is the lcd fugged?
>>52293702
both.
And I'm short on money, so I have to choose between these two
>>52292482
anyone have experience with the T400 vs T200 who might comment on this? Gonna purchase one today,.
>>52293725
Is it vertical? Happened to my X201T. When pressed, it would change colours or disappear at all for some time. After some time it transformed into a pretty thick black line (still usable though). It seems a cable got fukt, but it's a one deep in the panel (it's one of those ribbons near the upper edge of the screen, not the cable between MB and screen assembly). Dunno if the same thing happened to yours.
>browsing CRUs/FRUs for X201s
>that feel when the palmrest is unique for X201s and can't find any without the touchpad
I'd get rid of that shit cause it looks so ugly and is so useless.
