What it the difference between the two sizes?
Also why Is noctua such a trend here I was thinking about purchasing 3 of these 140mm fans and was wondering if it was worth it.
> wondering if it's worth it
You don't buy fans because they might be worth it, you get them for a purpose.
Also noctua is great and super quite, only problem is the color.
And if you're really wondering what's the difference between a 120 and a 140mm fan kill yourself.
Cougar Vortex CF-V14H master race.
Noctua no need to apply.
>>52230104
>only problem is the color.
How is color a problem?
When you close the case you don't see them anyways.
It's like complaining your motherboard pcb is green and not black/orange.
It doesn't matter
>>52230135
It's not really a problem, you're right.
But in special made builds with window side panels they rather go for a corsair one or w.e because of the build theme.
>>52230058
>What it the difference between the two sizes?
bigger fans can move the same amount of air as a smaller one while spinning slower.
That means bigger fans are quieter, since they spin slower and they also have a higher max cooling rate.
The downside is that they're physically bigger.
Bigger fans spins slower and makes less noise than a smaller one for the same airflow performance.
>>52230135
not the guy you quoted but there are people who have windows and dont like to look at poo poo coloured shit in their case.
also be quiet! case fans > noctua.
noctua MIGHT cool a lil bit better but they are louder. whats the point of having one less degree in your case when everything is loud.
>>52230188
>>52230163
>buying a case with windows
>>52230191
thanks for the reply meme master xDDD
>>52230104
I was just wondering if it was worth replacing my old loud led 120mm fans with these.
How are the be quiet! silent wings 2?
>>52230708
op pls
>>52230058
bigger fans typically move more air at the same RPMs.
the only important thing you need to be sure of is whether the fan has an abnormal ticking noise at certain RPMs, some high quality fans sound terrible even though they may be labeled as silent fans because of such noises. typically at lower rpms.
>>52230719
Lol that wasn't me
>>52230058
>what's the difference
One will fit in your case and the other won't
I'm not really sure what you're asking. But always go 140mm if you can fit them.
You can run them at slower rpm for the same air movement.
>>52230708
Most silent case fans you can buy for money.
I cant even hear mine when I put my ear right next to them.
I thought that there cant be a big difference between a good case fan and those be quiet ones but there is.
>>52230058
Keep in mind there's not a lot of good static pressure 140mm fans. I use Cougar Vortex's like >>52230130 and Helix 140mm for my radiator (H240-X), but outside of Helix, Vardar and Noctua 140mm fans aren't that great for rads.
Vortex's are amazing for airflow though and are almost half the price of Noctua's. The 3pin versions only use like .2A as well.
>>52230058
A 120mm will generally have less air volume pass through it per minute, but can deliver air flow at a much higher pressure.
A 140mm fan can push more air at lower rpm due to its larger size, but can't provide the same amount of static pressure.
A 120mm fan with high CFM will spin at high speeds to push the same amount of air as a 140mm at a lower rpm. A 120mm fan of the same blade design as the 140mm fan will have a much higher static pressure rating at a given rpm.
>>52232597
>>52230130
Cougar fans use a cheaper bearing that only keeps it lubricated when mounted vertically. If you mount the fan on the case ceiling or floor, it will start squeaking within weeks and eventually fail.
20mm
>>52232422
says more about your ears than about the fans desu
>>52232663
I've heard mixed results about the noise, but I haven't heard anything about HDBs being cheap. We're talking about the Vortexs right? They have such low static pressure that I won't be using them on my rad anytime soon anyway.
>>52232597
> there's not a lot of good static pressure 140mm fans
What about corsair SP140's?
>>52232765
Loud as fuck because they achieve performance through sheer RPM.
>>52232765
Corsair fans are shit. They have to run at extremely high RPMs to get their rated CFM/static pressure and the SP140s are actually worse than the SP120s according to Corsair's own website.
>>52232765
I threw mine out because they get insanely loud at 75-100% rpm. I have thick-ass server fans that sound quieter than those POS Corsairs.
>>52232780
Dayum. Just bought a SP120 high performance to put on my old thermalright rad. Dunno wat to expect, but at least it ain't gonna be any louder than my current zalman CNPS cooler.
>>52232895
>SP120 high performance
Enjoy your holy-shit-is-that-a-hornet's-nest-in-my-radiator-levels of noise
>>52230058
>What it the difference between the two sizes?
20mm
>>52232911
Dude, do you even know how loud these are? I can cap it at 1300rpms instead of 2000, but it's still loud and not enough to cool my OC'd 3570k.
Btw, took the 4-pins version of the sp120
>>52232978
There's just being loud and then there's being annoyingly loud. The Zalman does not sound like trapping the souls of a thousand angry wasps into the blades of the fan and triggering them all at once.
>>52233049
Either you're just being silly, or you got a faulty one. I've read plenty of reviews, there's no mention of such loudness.
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/coolers/display/120mm-fan-roundup-4_25.html#sect0
>>52233166
>Either you're just being silly, or you got a faulty one
Go on youtube and look up "Corsair SP120 High Performance fan". There's a video that shows the SP120 being ramped up to maximum rpm with a real decibel-meter. That alone will show you how loud those fans get, and you will not get the rated static pressure figures unless the fans are at 100% rpm.
>>52232663
That's horseshit anon, I have 6 installed horizontally for 1 year+ and they work flawlessly.
>>52230058
Larger fans can move more air with less noise
Noctuas are not a circle jerk. I thought they were and tried buying a couple for my computer just to see what was up. 10/10 would recommend. If you can get them for cheap then go for it.
>>52232780
>>52232823
>>52232866
>>52232911
Are the 140mm silent fans any better? I was going to get some for vertical outake fans on my c70.
>buy expensive German engineering Dr. bionic voodoo fans
>completely silent in clean air test bench
>massive turbulence if any object within 10cm of intake side
What's a good intake fan, /g/?
>>52233254
>That's horseshit anon
I wish it was horseshit, but it's simple physics. My clients brought their PCs back after a few months because of the loud squeaking those fans were making. I looked into the fans and it turns out that their sleeve bearings can only lubricate themselves properly when mounted vertically. That's because the lubricants pool up consistently at the bottom of the bearing, distributing the lubricant evenly throughout the bearing's inner surface. Horizontal mounting causes the lubricant to pool up on the bottom of the bearing, leading to excessive wear and eventual failure at the portion not covered by lubricants. Some cheaper sleeve-bearing will leak when place horizontally, although I've never seen a Cougar fan do that, only some no-name Chinese 80mms.
>>52233377
>German engineering
Sadly it's not the Hitler days anymore, and German engineering has become shitty.
>>52230058
phantek fan master race reporting in
>>52233327
The silent editions are a rip off. They're the same as the performance edition, but locked to a lower RPM, which means less airflow. Don't get Corsair, it's all marketing and LEDs. Get Cougar Vortex, Fractal Design Venturi, Noctua and anything else that has good specs. That's what you need to look at when looking at fans. Bearing type, RPMs, CFM and static pressure (if using for a radiator).
>>52233224
I hope you don't mean this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcXcz2VU0Q4
Because it shows fuck all.
>>52233506
Nope, it's some guy that tests almost every single fan on the market using a voltage regulator and a real decibel-o-meter
>>52232895
Try this on for size - I need to get some better fans to cool this behemoth (I need to dissipate 375w of heat).
>>52233406
It's exactly like Hitler days engineering. Extremely impressive in a controlled test environment, but when applied to the real world it shits itself.
>>52233515
https://www.youtube.com/user/CoolingTechnique/videos
These dudes?
>>52233597
Yes, I was looking for his channel
Listen to the Corsair SP120 video
>>52233618
I do seriously need some top-tier 120mm fans to replace the sp120's I have.
>>52233543
Get Vardar F3s or Noctuas. I like the clean look of Corsair fans, but man do they suck for rads/heatsinks. Venturi fans apparently do pretty well at static pressure as well, but those 2 are the best.
>>52233702
Honestly if it wasn't for the noise profile i'd be happy - they do a good job of cooling given the abuse i'm giving the card. Still I will look into those fans.
I was eying up some Reeven Euros fans but they seem impossible to buy.
>>52233618
They're not even that loud compared to some other fans he tested.
>>52233543
or you could buy a real graphics card
>>52233750
>Honestly if it wasn't for the noise profile i'd be happy
Well yea, run any fan fast enough and it'll have a high CFM/static pressure. A good fan is one that has good specs, but low dba.
>>52230058
go with the largest your case can support. or else you might have to DIY mod your case the fit them and will just look bad in general
>>52233405
>>52233405
That's good to know, however did the warranty cover a replacement?
>>52233790
A monster overclocked 290x from march 2014 was a real graphics card and today it annihilates its main competition of the time - the 780ti. In fact my 290x rivals most overclocked 980's.
newfag to case fans but which noctra 140mm fan is best one to get from newegg?
NAXT Source 210 case
About 20mm.
>>52230058
>size doesn't matter
Is what people with tiny fans say and you shouldn't believe them, bigger = better, a bigger fan moves more air
>>52233875
Don't buy those ugly meme fans, friend. Get a couple of Corsair™ SP120 or AF120s and plenty of ColorDiscs™ to go with them. Never know when you're gonna want to change up your color scheme.
>>52233753
Compare the price and noise of a Corsair SP-120 to a Phanteks, Akasa, Gentle Typhoons, and Bit Fenixs. Corsairs aren't worth the money when there are much better, quieter options that can deliver more static pressure levels at lower RPMs.
>>52233855
Only two of the PCs had fans that failed within the refund period, which I did. The rest wanted different fans, so I went with some Phanteks and Cooler Masters I had laying around. I still have those fans, but I never bothered putting them through warranty. I should probably toss those.
>>52232765
My whole computer is lifted out with corsair fans.
I must myself in the dick everytime I look at it for being such a fucking idiot. Don't buy them.
>>52233918
Jayztwocents pls go and stay go.
>>52233918
that sarcasm now just sounds like butthurt
>>52233943
Yet, many reviewers put the Corsair ahead of its rivals.
>but they were paid!!
>>52233875
Also starting to look to Noctua to replace my loud Helix 140mm fans. NF-A15 seems the best on some forums, but noctua makes their specs impossible to compare to others.
>>52234027
Corsair shills on /g/. Fucking /g/; do you really think they don't pay off 'reviewers'?
>>52234027
>Yet, many reviewers put the Corsair ahead of its rivals.
Which makes no sense since spec wise they aren't that great.
>>52234027
That's probably on pure numbers alone. But they don't mention that the high pressure ratings are ONLY at the maximum RPM. I bought Corsair fans exclusively when I started building PCs, but after a month of building, I started to get into other makes. Now, I only put in Corsair fans when there was an aesthetic color-matching need or when the client specifically requests them.
>>52234050
lel, alrighty then. Got my answer
>>52234072
Hmm, it's almost as if those reviewers are accepting money for misleading their audience. But no, it's not like something like that would happen in this world of high journalistic standards and integrity.
>>52233918
>Don't buy those ugly meme fans
Stopped reading there
20mm
One is bigger than the other.
>>52230058
never had noctua but have a few cougar fans and they're excellent, low noise fans. cheaper than noctua too.
>>52233405
haven't experienced this problem and have had a vertically mounted one going for a couple years. i think there are two different bearing types depending on model so maybe that is it?
>>52232663
Are they viscous fans? Those must be kept upright, bit I only know them from old cars.
>friend says he need new fans cause his are loud
>tell him to buy noctuas
>say's they're ugly and expensive
>tell him they're just fucking computer fans and they are around the same prize as similar performing fans from other brands
>buys corsairs instead
>complains how they didn't make a difference
JUST
>>52230104
no, you kill yourself...
some anon comes here with a legit question and you act like that? fuck you, "bro"...
>>52230058
now, dear anon, if you think with logic, 140mm will push more air than a 120mm going to the same speed...so...
this gives you two advantages, you can make it go to the same speed (and slight less noise)for more airflow, or , you can make it go to the same airflow with really low noise...
also, most brand use better materials on 140mm+ fans, and most brands use fluid bearing on 140mm+ fans, which is a really good thing (look for different fan bearings for more info)
The noctua a14s/TY-147a/EK vardar 140mm fans are currently the top 3 case fans currently. If you say otherwise you don't know shit
>>52230058
>>52236540
here are some recommendations...
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/be-quiet-case-fan-bl031
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/silenx-case-fan-efx1412
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gelid-solutions-case-fan-fnpx1412 (comes with rubber mountings, nice feature)
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/nanoxia-case-fan-nds1401800
the next ones are more expensive, but have a really good static pressure...
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/phanteks-case-fan-phf140hpwt2
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/phanteks-case-fan-phf140hpwt
also, all of those fans have color variants, which is nice ....
>>52233543
Not the 980ti though
>>52236306
>have had a vertically mounted one going for a couple years
I was talking about horizontal (facing the ground/ceiling) mounting. Vertical is completely fine for sleeve bearings, because it's what it was ultimately designed to run in.
>>52230130
>>52232663
Really? I stand my PC upright so I should be fine, no? I have three 120mm Vortex hydro bearings...
>>52230058
In response to pic, I got the 3000 rpm version with pwm, goes all the way down to 250 rpm to almost 2900 on a radiator. Sounds like an airplane at the top end, but having the headroom feels good even if I never need it.
>>52237804
As long as the axis of the fan is parallel to the ground, you're good. I really wish Cougar didn't cheap out on the bearings because they're pretty good low-noise/decent-SP fans.
>>52237903
These Cougars are the most expensive fans I've ever bought. I wanted Noctuas, but they're so hideous. Even though my case doesn't have windows, I still can see them via through the dust filters.
>>52230130
>>52232663
>>52237804
>>52237946
https://www.pccasegear.com/products/26657
Welp, here they are. They all have the same issues, I assume?
>>52237990
Check Cougar's website to check your model's bearings. I don't think all of Cougar's fans have sleeve-bearings, but I could be wrong.
I always check the sort of bearings fans use before I buy them for my clients. Sometimes, it can make the difference between a flawless build to an annoyance that costs me customers.
>>52238013
I think I fell for the marketing and the looks.
>>52238032
Yeah, if you see a simple cylinder surrounded by a ring, that's a sleeve-bearing. Really basic concept.
A ball-bearing has at least three balls surrounded by a ring. Roller bearings have smaller cylinders arranged in a ring surrounded by a ring.
