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How is Apple able to sell OS X for a profit when it's based off Linux which is open source/free?

Isn't that illegal?
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>>52226352

OS X is free
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>>52226352
OS X is based off UNIX.
Linux is based off UNIX.

It's like if one of your wife's sons becomes a millionaire and the other becomes a NEET.
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>>52226382
Steve Jobs: 1
Linus Torvalds: 0

Stay mad poorfags
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OSX is actually descended from freeBSD, not Linux. At this point everything has been rebuilt with Apple's secret sauce, so the point is moot.
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>>52226414
>secret sauce
You mean perl?
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>>52226352
>How is Apple able to sell OS X for a profit when it's based off open source/free software, isn't that illegal?
No, not at all, see: Red Hat Enterprise Linux.

>OS X based off Linux
This is patently false though.
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>>52226382
>OS X is based FreeBSD, UNIX and is Certified UNIX.
>Linux is a hackjob trying to be UNIX for poor people because muh license monies

FTFY.
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>>52226414
This is also false.

OSX is descended from NeXTSTEP.
NeXTSTEP is at its core was the Darwin 'kernel', some fancy really nice APIs and a Display PostScript windowing system.

Darwin is a Mach microkernel, combined with a bunch of NeXT servers (services in this context, not a physical server, yes I need to explain this to /g/) and the 4.3BSD userspace (inc. all utils)
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>>52226450
>macshit
>unix

Pick one.
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>>52226469
What was NeXTSTEP based on then?
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>>52226483
A rewritten unix-like replacement kernel for BSD to get around legal issues of having actual UNIX code in BSD.
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>>52226496
this desu senpai
>massive 2 year headline topping legal battle
>explicitly because BSD contained actual UNIX AT&T code
>entire point of mach was to remove UNIX from BSD
>mactoddlers unironically call osx UNIX in 2016 the year of our lord stallman, hallowed be your name, your kingdom come, give us each day our daily freedoms, and forgive us our proprietary programs, for we ourselves, forgive everyone who is indebted to us, and lead us not into the evil malevolent morally bankrupt wasteland that is cuptertino
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nice bait
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>>52226582
99% of macfags weren't even born when that happened desu senpai.
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>>52226469
pretty nice explanation thank you

But i dont understand what is the difference between mach and darwin?
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>>52226612
Mach is the blood sweat and tears of honest hardworking researchers who love technology.

Darwin is when Apple takes Mach and puts their logo on it.
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>>52226352
nice repost faggot

>>>9gag and sage
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>>52226805
Go outside nerd
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>>52226478
>Linux
>UNIX
pick one.

>OS X
>UNIX
pick two.

faggot
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>>52226352
Making the same thread every day should be illegal
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>>52226958
>uses homOSeX
>calls someone else a faggot
lmao
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>>52226393
Oh grow up
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>>52226634
darwin is a specialization, and optimization of mach, and it's objectively better when it's running on the hardware it's designed to run on
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>>52226352
girl touching dog's tits, dog touching girl's tits.
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>>52226356
Free doesn't mean open source, open source doesn't mean free.
Free as in free speech, not free as in free beer.
OS X is a proprietary operating system, and therefore is not 'free'. Fuck you. fanboy hipster faggots
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>>52226352
I don't think apple 'sells' OSX, it's just included in the hardware they sell you.
Besides there's nothing wrong with making profit of OS software.
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>>52227042
>OS X is properietary
if I'm not mistaken the software itself is open source, the GUI (Aqua) is properietary.
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>>52227113
you are mistaken. A software system can be both proprietary and open source.
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>>52226352
>How is Apple able to sell OS X for a profit when it's based off Linux
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>>52227136
Oh yes you are right, visiting /g/ makes me confuse open source with free.
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http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/open-source-misses-the-point.en.html
It seems like no one has ever read the intro to FLOSS
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>>52227064
OS X used to be sold just like Windows was until recent

Stop pretending to be LE master race and uninformed
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It would be 100% legal to sell an otherwise proprietary OS with a GPLV3+ kernel, and it always will be because anything else would violate the principles of free software

If you can't use GPLVXX code ~ALONGSIDE~ proprietary software, then you don't have the freedom to use GPLVXX code as you wish

See: Android+gapps+fuckwiz.

>>52226450
OS X is based off NeXT, and is still the same OS from the 90s because apple is notorious for technological incompetence, if not worse.

Linux is an enterprise hackjob that, nonetheless, is much more useful if you actually want to "compute" using your computer instead of "experience" the results of other people's computation. It's more similar to other "REAL UNIX" systems than OS X in practicality.

Do not confuse the UNIX certification for UNIX usefulness
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>>52227136
Darwin is available for free under Apple's license: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Public_Source_License

There were a few forks of Darwin back in the day, but I think they all died off.

The only proprietary parts are some drivers, and of course Aqua (which is really a separate project)
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>>52226450
According to Dennis Ritchie Linux is closer to what he considers Unix than any of the modern Unix flavors.

http://www.linuxfocus.org/English/July1999/article79.html
>Dennis Ritchie, one of the original creators of Unix, expressed his opinion that Unix-like systems such as Linux are de facto Unix systems
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