Why is everything considered a botnet on /g/, it's ridiculous already.
>Google a botnet
>Windows 10 le botnet
>Ubuntu Botnet
>Windows 10
>Botnet
It's a shame despite the overwhelming evidence that it's not that this one won't die
>>52203680
"Botnet" is meant to mean "spyware", newfriend. I hope this clears things up for you.
>>52203680
>tfw the botnet wants me to starve
>>52203706
it is a botnet.
windows update is the c&c server.
>>52203706
Microsoft tells you outright that they will collect your usage data via Telemetry, and that they will delete files off your system that they deem inappropriate.
Microsoft. Tells. You.
retards will call everything by something that they don't understand. calling everything a "botnet" or a "meme" is a good way to criticize something without knowing anything
>>52203743
nice meme
>>52203756
Well meme'd, my friend!
>>52203758
Nice botnet!
>>52203743
You got a sauce for those claims bud?
They harvest your data and sell it.
>windows 10
They spy on you and probably sell data they collect from that too.
>ubuntu
Something about amazon
>>52203823
nice memes
>>52203848
>>52203680
Why even post a thread if you have no idea about anything? Fuck off back to reddit
>>52203814
How about their own website?
>How We Use Data
>Microsoft uses data we collect from the Program software and services to operate, improve and personalize Microsoft products and services. For example, we use your voice data to improve speech recognition, we use your settings data to sync and roam your settings across devices, and we use information we learn about your interests to help make the content and ads we show you more relevant. Microsoft shares some data with our partners to improve how their products and services work with Microsoft’s products and services.
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>>52203954
Not that guy, but where's the citation for them deleting your data when they find it to be just?
>>52203954
So anonymous, quantitative information that isn't linked to you.
Much botnet.
>>52204010
Not that guy, but in what way does that excerpt convey that any and all data collected for those purposes is anonymous and not linked to the user from which the data is derived?
That said though I'm tired of prefacing my posts with "not that guy" since I'm just a lurker, so I'm gone.
>Win10 literally sending packets over the net every time you open a pic
>ToS lirerally telling you that if the feds want, they can gain access to your pc remotely and share all your collected data
Nothing to fear, nothing to hide, uh?
>>52203680
We need a revolution
2016 will be the year we take back our freedoms. The wheels are already set in motion. It's time to open peoples eyes to the rape of rights that has been happening right under their noses. Soon, we will rise up, our voices will be heard and we will NOT BE SILENCED.
GET THE WORD OUT NOW /g/, THE REVOLUTION IS UPON US. WILL YOU BE WITH US AND TAKE BACK WHAT'S YOURS. OR WILL YOU BEND OVER AND TAKE THE CORPORATE BOTNET COCK? THE CHOICE IS YOURS /g/, YOUR DESTINY IS IN YOUR HANDS.
>>52204084
>2016 will be the year we take back our freedoms.
:^)
>>52204084
>Loads up TPB
>Downloads shit for free
No compaints here.
>>52204010
>Microsoft collects information about your use of the software and services as well as about the devices and networks on which they operate. Examples of data we may collect include your name, email address, preferences and interests; location, browsing, search and file history...
It's on their website, doofus.
>>52203990
I will have to dig deeper for that one. The Terms of Service screenshots have been posted several times before, but I have never bothered to save the image.
>>52203680
Abusing stale memes on 4chan is the only way for people who will never experience Brotherhood to feel like they belong to something.
>>52203739
I miss this meme
>>52204156
ebin
>>52203990
>>52204181
Not quite definitive, so I'll see, if I can find a bit more, but here is something of concern:
(i) when you install or use Program software and services, we may collect information about your device and applications and use it for purposes such as determining or improving compatibility
(ii) when you open a file, we may collect information about the file, the application used to open the file, and how long it takes to use it for purposes such as improving performance
My Win10 system auto starts Steam in big-picture mode, and that's it. Gosh I hope MS finds all that data useful.
>>52203680
It becomes clear when you realize that "botnet" is their word for "proprietary software"
>>52204205
>we must collect at least something, even when you chose the most minimal level, in order for you to use our product
>you can never fully opt-out
>BUT IT'S FREEEE! :D :D :D
>>52203990
http://www.in.techradar.com/news/software/Microsoft-Windows-10-will-now-remotely-delete-pirated-games-and-software/articleshow/48513366.cms
Just one of many sources.
>>52203814
You don't need him to tell you. I know first hand after an update Microsoft deleted some software from my computer(speccy) and installed garbage shit apps
>>52204310
>break law
>WAHHHHH DEY CAUGHT ME
>>52204350
Is that picture you posted your intellectual property?
>>52204350
>>52204383
Busted!
>>52204310
>piratefag
Do you also go cry to your mommy when MS catches you pirating windows and takes away your wallpaper?
>>52204350
>>52204413
Look at the samefriend go! :^)
>>52203743
>>52203823
>>52204310
Proof that the botnet memers have no idea what a botnet is.
/g/ just spouts buzzwords and then people parrot what they say.
All the >is X botnet
threads are made by people who don't know what they're talking about.
>>52203680
Even if they're right who gives a shit? Botnets are a blessing because it links us all together in one happy community.
>>52204350
You don't find that level of invasiveness disturbing? Who gave this company the authority to sift through your shit? It's ridiculous.
>>52203680
Botnet is probably the most used meme on here.
Get used to it being true OP and use what your comfortable with
>>52204489
>why duz windoze have access to the program files folder
>MUH PRIVASEE!!!!
>>52204519
The company, not the OS, you moron.
>>52204437
LE SAMEFAG MAYMAY XXXXXXXXXDDDDD SO FUCKING FUNNY HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA LE HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA SAAAAAAAAAAAAMEFAG HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>52204519
What gives them the right to determine what you should and should not have? Besides, more than half of you Windows users pirate Windows itself. Talk about hypocrites.
>>52204571
>piratetard
>doesn't even know how to pirate
I'm on w10 and haven't had any of my games or anything deleted, and have MS blocked at my router.
git gud retard lmao
>>52204506
How the hell can you get used to such a retarded, stale meme.
>>52204606
>retarded, stale meme.
Awww.Does it hurt your wittle feewings?
>>52204599
>piratetard
>doesn't even know how to pirate
>git gud retard lmao
What are you even on about? I don't even use Windows 10.
>>52204606
While it is kinda stupid, it does actually have some desriptive power. Posting frogs and shit just makes you look dumb, but calling something a "botnet" actually conveys information: that it's a reasonable-looking program or service that actually spies on you and reports that information back to somewhere.
Even 4chan is a botnet
Prove me wrong!
It's undeniable that windows has a universal backdoor. How did they install the Get Windows 10 (GWX) program onto everyone's W& and W8 machines if they don't have a backdoor?
>>52204693
Through the update service? Backdoors are necessarily hidden from the user.
>>52204693
W7* not W&
>>52204693
i didn't update shit. I booted up one day and it was installed, and i didn't have auto-update enabled
>>52204310
This is probably to protect their shit OS from viruses,tbhonest.
>>52204732
All attempts by Microsoft to update my machine fail for some reason. Not complaining though.
>>52204732
>I booted up one day and it was installed
gr8 b8 m8
>>52203947
>>52204888
The samefagging bro
Daily reminder that 99% of the botnet memers dont know what a botnet is.
Daily reminder that people on /g/ are hipsters/contrarians that want to be cool so they pretend like they're in a secret club or that they know better than everyone else.
>>52204479
Ok, but I'm still not getting windows 10
>>52204994
That's fine. As long as you don't spout memes as your reasoning
>>52203680
They can't see the source code and change for them selves.
>>52204958
>botnet memers dont know what a botnet is.
A botnet is a number of Internet-connected computers communicating with other similar machines in an effort to complete repetitive tasks and objectives. This can be as mundane as keeping control of an Internet Relay Chat (IRC) channel, or it could be used to send spam email or participate in distributed denial-of-service attacks. The word botnet is a combination of the words robot and network. The term is usually used with a negative or malicious connotation.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Botnet
Windows is a malicious botnet.
>>52205052
How is Windows a malicious botnet? You can read a definition, clearly, but what is the Windows boogeyman doing?
>>52205093
Collecting info on and fixing Windows problems desu.
>>52205093
Updating and removing files without user permission.
>>52205052
>A botnet is a number of Internet-connected computers communicating with other similar machines in an effort to complete repetitive tasks and objectives.
And that's not the definition people are using on /g/ when the call Win10 or Chrome a "botnet".
>>52205118
You mean like you downloaded and pirated someone's game without permission?
>>52203706
Nice meme anon
>>52205138
And your point is?
>>52205118
>Games for Windows
>actually logging into official service with a pirated game
>updater tries to update your game
>detects invalid exe
>replaces with legit exe
>breaks fake authentication
>OMG BOTNETBOTN ETBOTNET
>Steam game
>actually logging into official service with a pirated game
>updater tries to update your game
>detects invalid exe
>replaces with legit exe
>breaks fake authentication
>OMG DA FAT GABEN JEWSS!!!
>Origin game
>actually logging into official service with a pirated game
>updater tries to update your game
>detects invalid exe
>replaces with legit exe
>breaks fake authentication
>WADDA FUG EA JEWZ!!!
Just kill yourself retard. Also, pic related.
>>52205130
But it is. The point is, you're locked into an abusive game in which the rules are constantly being changed to abuse you,the customer.Why wouldn't these companies make these practices an opt-in option if they thought people would be ok with it? They know perfectly well that their practices are questionable.
win 10 has deleted speccy twice.
that's reason enough to know it's not fucking cool.
i continue to use it but once it pushes me over the edge i'm going back to 7 overnight.
once windows 10 matures i'm sure someone will release a good version of it.
>>52205322
>deleted
You're a fucking retarded.
>>52205200
check mate fag
>>52205322
>i continue to use it but once it pushes me over the edge i'm going back to 7 overnight.
KEKED BY YOUR OS
Maybe... Just maybe... Things are really moving in the direction where everything is a botnet and you should be a little more concerned about that reality.
>>52205394
>YOUR OS
It's not his OS, he's just paying to be able to access it.
>>52205332
explain what it did then. had to re download that shit twice after updates.
>>52205394
it's just an OS, i can quit it whenever i want. it needs me, not the other way around. windows is a whore that needs constant dick.
>>52205427
tfw the majority of computer users prefer to PAY to RENT an operating system instead of OWNING one at NO COST
>>52205322
>upgrade os
>program doesn't work
>have to download new version
>install it
>now it works
>upgrade os
>os now automatically detects incompatible programs that have been shown to cause instability and crashes
>http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/id-2780122/windows-blue-screen-attempting-run-speccy.html
>updated system is stable and functional
>download new version of program
>install
>works without issue
Keep being a retard. Piriform themselves admitted it was their fault.
>>52205513
>os deletes 'incompatible' programs
the only retarded thing here is you thinking this is somehow acceptable.
it's not.
>>52205575
The only retarded thing here is you thinking this is somehow not acceptable.
It's how every major os upgrade works including osx, the only difference being MS saves you the step of uninstalling it so you're not left with an incompatible program on your HDD and wondering why it doesn't work and crashes your system when you run it.
You would've had to download a new version either way. Don't even bother lying.
>>52205513
This.
>OS automates mundane maintenance tasks like defragmentation, virus scans, compatibility handling, error reporting, updates, etc.
>literally no harm was done
>/g/ complains because they're used to perform those things manually and it gave them a sense of self-worth
>>52204094
>image from 12 years ago
:^)
>>52205575
Keep on memeing faggot.
I'm sure if you keep spewing botnet you'll convince yourself you're right.
>>52205667
thanks Roopashree, one rupee has be deposited into your account.
there's absolutely no reason a simple program like speccy should be broken from an OS update. did your gpu drivers get uninstalled? did winamp get uninstalled? did chrome get uninstalled?
too much automation is not a good thing. automation is only good if it's a solution to a problem. not a solution looking for a problem.
>>52205804
Get REKT retard, Piriform themselves are laughing at what a colossal retard you are: >>52205786
>>52205741
It still isn't fixed like all glaring desktop Linux bugs
>>52205786
BLOWN THE FUCK OUT
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>>52205804
Thanks for the insightful post, Cletus, 5 chicken tendies and an ABC book have been deposited to your disability account.
>>52205836
It's actually a gnome bug. Gnome is dogshit though.
>>52204094
Ever heard of patched file picker?
>>52203680
it's literally just a /g/ meme
people need to stop falling for /g/ memes
i haven't seen this much WIDF in one thread.
rupees for all!
>>52205472
>PAY to RENT
OS that works
>OWNING one at NO COST
Unpolished piece of shit
I spend my day troubleshooting obscure problems. The last thing I want to do when I get home is figure out why my sound doesn't work or what surprise syntax change broke X again
>>52205852
>i unironically install 3rd party hacks published by basement dwellers to fix critical system components without reading the code at all
>>52203680
ehahahehehahu xDDD le ebin menes le fellow memelord LOL!1!!!1!11!1
>>52205850
>X is dogshit
>systemd is dogshit
>Ubuntu is dogshit
Yeah we all know every Linux distro and its components are basically unusable.
Software is becoming worse. A good majority of major technology now collects information for a central purpose.
>>52204246
And then there's the Security setting in Enterprise and Education versions. Which sends absolutely nothing.
>>52205850
It's one of the few that looks like it was developed later than 1994
>>52203708
That's just a bullshit excuse though.
/g/ is stupid and doesn't even know what botnet means, so they call everything a botnet.
>>52205996
kike shill
yet another case an onboard broadcom wifi setup not working anymore today on windows 10 after an update.
if shit works on xp, vista, 7, 8, and 8.1 ......and suddenly stops working on 10, that's absofuckinglutely unacceptable and fuck whatever argument you have because you're wrong.
same for the sata card i had in another machine last week. wouldn't work with 10, worked fine for years on 7.
the worst part about /g/ is that people can't even deal with the botnet meme itself. contain your autism.
>>52203708
botnet is not spyware it's software that gives the owner of the software the ability to use your computer, as well as whatever other PC's are infected, for mass computing.
>>52203680
Debian (without non-free repo) is not a botnet
Gentoo with ACCEPT_LICENSE="-* @FREE" is not a botnet
Trisquel is not a botnet
OpenBSD is not a botnet
>>52205876
confirmed for only ever using windows
>>52204071
>>Win10 literally sending packets over the net every time you open a pic
Well then, stop looking at CP
>>52206091
>openbsd
has nonfree software
>>52206142
I stand corrected
Anyway OP, you see there are quite a few non-botnet options
This thread is shit
--Posted from Clover
>>52206166
F' off meme fag
>>52206091
What is a botnet, friend?
>>52204483
are you saying 4chan is a botnet, too?!
>>52205996
It's easier to say "Windows 10 is botnet" than to say "Windows 10 collects data from your computer".
Don't be so autistic.
>>52203680
Nothing to hide nothing to fear. Your not a pedophile are you?
>>52204331
>speccy
Dont see whats wrong here
>>52204071
>win10 literally sending packets over the net every time you open a pic
I cant even tell if you are memeing or being literally retarded
>>52205885
>crtitical system components
>GTK
lol
>>52208318
I've got nothing to hide but i got something to protect.
>>52205513
>userspace software still causes kernel panic on Windows
what a nice OS
>>52208774
>specifically asks for admin privileges each time before running for direct hardware access
>userspace software
Ok freetard.
>>52208804
>userspace means non-admin
Ok winshill
>>52203823
Think you need to add that Debian is owned by the NSA, Ubuntu is a form of Debian.
>implying a commercial entity like canonical wouldn't be in the back pocket of the NSA
>>52208815
>admin means it can't have a GUI
Ok freetard.
>>52208834
>Debian is owned by the NSA
i don't think you know what you are talking about
What's the best non-botnet way to sync documents between your phone, PC and laptop?
>>52208894
a homeserver
>phone
>non botnet
are you using replicant?
>>52208962
No, I'm using Android with Dropbox. But my phone has already been rooted. And I'm moving away from the botnet. I already removed Microsoft and most of Google from my ecosystem.
>>52208999
i like your style, you might want to look into rsync and primitive ftp (on f-droid))
>>52203743
>and that they will delete files off your system that they deem inappropriate
Proof or STFU.
>>52204310
While I don't think they should do this, all this Pajeet Dikshit article is saying is that Microsoft is anti-nigger. What does that make Linux?
>>52205047
Even if they could see the source code they still couldn't change it for themselves.
>>52204071
>if the feds want, they can gain access to your pc remotely and share all your collected data
Good thing I'm not an Amerifat then.
>>52204732
Lie.
>>52204678
>view source
:^)
>>52203680
I'll explain it to you in a civilised manner.
Botnet is a whole range of things which in PR buzz tend to be called "telemetry".
Is telemetry bad or wrong? I don't know. Microsoft claims(for instance) that telemetry data made them remove start menu in windows 8. On the other hand you don't know how many things were actually improved because of telemetry because you only see "wow - it's an improvement" and never ask why was it added/removed/moved somewhere else. For google and search engines as a whole this is particularly important - for example if I'll search for, dunno, some electronic component, I will find it's specification etc. but then, in the second or third link I'll have shop in my country or even region which sells that component. How did they know where do I live? Well they've spied on me. Is it bad? No. It doesn't always have to be bad.
At the same time, things that are hidden behind telemetry can just spy on you. Then of course comes all sort of ethical concerns related to it and even if you disagree with them, you have to understand that for some people, it's important.
Now the whole issue became important after NSA leaks. The problem is "how can I tell what kind of data am I sending" - I mean, if you use intel CPU - tell me what kind of data it transmits through the built in 3G transmitter? Can you check it? Usually no.
The most important argument behind avoiding "botnet" software is very simple though and I wholly agree. The computer I've bought for my hard earned money, is MY computer. I decide what it should and what it shouldn't do.
>The nth thread arguing about operating systems
>Everyone will eventually get bored and leave
>Start it again tomorrow with no conclusion
[Sent from Xubuntu 15.10]
>>52205575
it is very acceptable from MS point of view
>be you
>a mentally challenged retard
>start pc up one day after update
>you start up /geee/ to post in a battlestation and speccy circlejerk
>windows did not remove your speccy after the update
>you start speccy
>BSOD
>you try again
>BSOD
>you go in full nerdrage and claim _everything_ is microsofts fault
and don't you dare to pretend you would act like a reasonable being and search for the problems instead of instantly and without proof shitting on microsofts roof
that's exactly what would happen and you know that
now go off yourself, asshole
>>52203680
Because they are botnets. It's not a FEELING we have, it's just facts
>>52204489
YOU gave them authority to do that when you accepted their terms and conditions that clearly state that they will collect, name, your contacts, the websites you visit, your passwords, credit card numbers and all other things clearly stated in the terms and conditions.
>>52204599
>and have MS blocked at my router.
Enjoy having no security updates while trying to fight your shitty operating system.
>>52205130
Yes it is.
>>52205322
>i'm going back to 7 overnight.
Stop being a idiot, windows 7 is the exact same thing unless you plan to have a windows 7 without any updates completely exposed to tons of malware.
Get linux for normal stuff and windows 10 for gaymes
>>52208318
that has nothing to do with botnets you stupid fuck
90% of /g/ is fucking stupid
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=botnet+definition&ia=definition
>A collection of zombies that are controlled by the same cracker; a collection of compromised computers that is slowly built up then unleashed as a DDOS attack or used to send very large quantities of spam.
>>52205836
It was fixed in 2003
Windows kinda sucks but it's the only viable option so we're stuck with it.
No, Linux doesn't work.
>>52211217
>windows 7 is the exact same thing
But it's not. Data collection is completely optional there and it doesn't remove software on its own.
>>52211273
>No, Linux doesn't work.
depends what you need
>>52203680
4chan is a botnet (closed-source)
>>52204094
>>52204437
>>52205741
>using the smiley with a carat nose
>>52204576
>saying "maymay"
kill yourself
>>52211637
Every website is a botnrt if we don't have access to their systems even I'd they're open source
>>52204994
Nobody said you have to
>>52208295
People actually spout the
>x is a botnet
There are a bunch of >I want to maek gaymes
Fags with thinkpads in my major. They actually tell people things are botnet. I ask them what a botnet is by pretending to be a dumb gaymer gurll.
>uhh like it's a botnet
>it doesn't respect your freedom
And them I ask them again, what exactly a botnet is and they meme spout more
>>52215877
They're*
