There are people on /g/ right now who unironically think they will have more freedom while using Linux or BSD while it's common knowledge that they have several backdoors and offer no benefits
>it's common knowledge that they have several backdoors and offer no benefits
Waiting on that proof OP
Post the lines of code that are the backdoor or fuck off with this meme
>>52198452
Going to need some citations on linux/BSD backdoors
>inb4 that openbsd backdoor accusation
pure FUD.
>>52198525
>Post the lines of code that are the backdoor
That defeats the purpose
>>52198534
>Aggrajag and Mortimer.CA, among others, wrote to inform us that Theo de Raadt has made public an email sent to him by Gregory Perry, who worked on the OpenBSD crypto framework a decade ago. The claim is that the FBI paid contractors to insert backdoors into OpenBSD's IPSEC stack. Mr. Perry is coming forward now that his NDA with the FBI has expired. The code was originally added ten years ago, and over that time has changed quite a bit, "so it is unclear what the true impact of these allegations are" says Mr. de Raadt.
http://bsd.slashdot.org/story/10/12/15/004235/fbi-alleged-to-have-backdoored-openbsds-ipsec-stack
>>52199028
>That defeats the purpose
In what fucking way?
>>52198452
No benefits.. poor guy.
>>52198452
And how would that be possible on a Linux kernel ? It's open source, you can see the code. Pls tell me more about this invisible code you are talking about
>>52199193
>>52199091
>>52199056
The bubble of ignorance is real
http://arstechnica.com/security/2014/05/linux-gets-fix-for-code-execution-flaw-that-went-unpatched-since-2009/
>>52199028
>That defeats the purpose
dafuq
>>52199193
>>52199091
>>52199056
Wallow in your ignorance.
http://www.gfi.com/blog/most-vulnerable-operating-systems-and-applications-in-2014/
>>52199430
>In this slide, vulnerabilities and backdoors are the same thing
>>52199408
>>52199056
People who make money from selling backdoors don't release them for free.
>>52198452
>offer no benefits
No. FreeBSD uses so much less memory than any Windows idle.
Trying to run Windows on 2GB of ram is a struggle at best, but any BSD or Linux works perfectly. It always uses less cpu operation in the background, giving the user more control over what they do and often faster programs.
I don't use Linux for privacy, I use it because it's fucking fast, the configs are simple, the programs are easy to install and the communities are lovely.
There's no shame in not using Linux, I really don't care if you prefer Windows OP. Just don't act like Linux doesn't serve a purpose.
>>52199486
t. Low IQ kiddy
>>52199524
>Trying to run Windows on 2GB of ram is a struggle at best,
Nope >>52199030
>>52199430
Source for that?
Your MS Word?
http://www.engadget.com/2015/12/18/log-into-most-any-linux-system-by-hitting-backspace-28-times/
>>52199601
Thats shockingly easy youre right, but getting around the Windows password isnt a lot harder, just boot a live system, go in the windows files and replace the utilman.exe with a renamed cmd.exe and you get a terminal with system rights on the login screen
>>52199601
>backspace on grub
>2016
>not using uefi boot
>not using syslinux
Nothing new here.
>>52199717
Not in Windows 10
>>52199755
Prove it anon.
>>52199746
i dont know why fucking grub took off like that
its so bloated that the fact that a dumb exploit like this actually exists isnt even remotely surprising
>>52199601
exploit to bypass the password on grub
wow, it's nothing
>>52199717
>Thats shockingly easy youre right, but getting around the Windows password isnt a lot harder, just boot a live system, go in the windows files and replace the utilman.exe with a renamed cmd.exe and you get a terminal with system rights on the login screen
Yes give me physical access and I can get around an unsecured system.
This is some low tier bait but daily reminder that unless you bought something like a RockChip based Chromebook (C201) that doesn't even have CPU proprietary microcodes whatever you own comes factory backdoored regardless of OS. See any Charlie Miller Defcon presentation, there's also countless silicon backdoor/reversing Defcon talks. Google Intel Management Engine. Every single time they point out how easy it would be to manipulate the user's operating system from escalated privs the hardware firmware allows them and be impossible to detect.
>>52199902
TL;DR
hardware is backdoored
/thread
>>52199601
Any system an attacker has gained physical access to is compromised.
>>52199842
As soon as you have an encrypted harddrive, the grub backspace trick wont work either, so we can only talk abou unsecure systems
>>52199547
>>52199547
Sorry, let me rephrase.
Running Windows with all the components running to keep it stable is a struggle at best.
Besides, Arch literally uses 200mb idle for me. Why would I want to use 700?
>>52199601
The part I don't get about this is using grub for security
Please, try pressing backspace at the dm-crypt prompt anon. See where it gets you, other than beat the fuck out of for touching my shit when I catch you mashing backspace like a spastic.
Linux cucks getting #REKT
>>52199430
Whoever made that chart is a fucking retard. 9 closed source OSs and an open source kernel? No shit Linux has had more security fixes, every patch is public knowledge.
>Wallow in your ignorance.
>>52199601
Grub is a bootloader, it's not part of Linux and can be used with most systems.
And yeah, in case the attacker gets physical acces you loose in 99% of the cases
>>52199375
It went unnoticed because:
- No one exploited it, because
- You need to be root anyway to call n_tty_write
Linux saves itself from itself.
>>52200032
And MS-DOS uses 640 KB idle for me. Why would I want to use 200mb?
>>52200218
Because MS-DOS is not useful in 2016 whereas Arch Linux allows me to do everything I need in a fast and easy manner.
OP is just a Windowsfag who can't accept that linux is superior
>>52200039
Really, hashtags, is 4chan degrading to twitter?
>>52200247
ah, i guess your needs are pretty basic
>>52199717
>>52200032
What you’re referring to as Windows, is in fact, NSA/Windows, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, NSA plus Windows. Windows is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another expensive component of a fully functioning spy system made useful by the NSA core-spyware, reverse shell utilities and vital keylogging components comprising a full botnet as defined by Gen. J. Clapper.
Many computer users run a modified version of the botnet system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of spyware which is widely used today is often called “Windows”, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the NSA system, developed by the NSA. There really is a Windows, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use.
Windows is the cover: the program in the system that hides the spying resources from the other programs that you run. The cover is an essential part of a botnet, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete botnet. Windows is normally used in combination with the NSA spyware: the whole system is basically botnet with Windows added, or NSA/Windows. All the so-called “Windows” versions are really versions of NSA/Windows.
>>52200356
Its pretty mutch a window for the NSA
>>52200247
>MS-DOS is not useful in 2016
sure it is if you aren't a child who needs their software to hold their hand for even the most basic of tasks
>>52200442
winderps lol
hardware is backdoored we're all fucked (libreboot all the way?)
I use Linux because it makes me happy instead of that Windows shit, "install win10 now or later" mfw
And maybe it makes bulk collection harder too
>>52199028
Once again, there is no real evidence of any backdoor being placed, it's just accusations.
>>52200442
How do you browse 4chan on MS-DOS? I would love to switch, but there's no x server is there?
>>52200337
I suppose so, I just like playing with code and browsing the internet. I'm happy.
>>52200531
Dude, he literally provided sources. You can go on tor today and buy a way into any OS whether Linux, iOS, OSX or Windows.
>>52200569
there is actually a X server for DOS.
It's called DESQview/X, good luck finding info on that
>>52200588
I'm not going to believe anything till the backdoor is pointed out specifically.
>>52200614
Great! I mean, putting backdoors in mainstream operating systems? Why would ANYONE want to do that, let alone a government agency? They're here to protect us, after all. God bless America and our liberty.
>>52200774
This way would just a real PATRIOT ACT
>>52200774
I wouldn't call OpenBSD or any *BSD mainstream. I would believe you if the backdoor was pointed out. The only evidence we have is just one guys word alone. And if this accusation is true, how do we know the other *BSDs don't have backdoors in them also? Is there an OS we can trust?
Lots of FUD coming from poor Ian's death.
Don't understand what you get from all this uncertainty, probably just want everyone to go to the easier target of windows/osx.
And of course there is no safe OS, not when computers are filled with proprietary shit.
>>52200853
>deployed on 100,000s of servers
>not mainstream
>>52200912
That's just a fraction compared to linux
>>52200926
It's still quite a bit.
>>52200947
Yes, 100,000s is indeed a big number. but mainstream? Let's be serious, it's not mainstream especially when compared to how much linux is used for servers.
>>52200853
OpenBSD code is in literally everything
http://www.openbsd.org/innovations.html
If you use OSX you also use pf firewall, plus a hundred other programs. It's not meant to be run everywhere, it's a system designed for other developers. FreeBSD powers Netflix, and most of Facebook still.
>>52201232
while this is true it's important to also specify everyone molests the code in various ways
https://youtu.be/wGOPj53r1Fc?t=700
the purest, most stable version of pf is probably the openbsd one
>>52200569
there's DESQview/X, which I believe provided a fully or at least a mostly functional X environment under DOS and provided remote access facilities, not sure how they work though with newer *nix
I wonder how Arachne would work
>>52201232
OSX has more vulnerabilities than Linux or Windows
Reminder that Linux logs all user input to an unencrypted file called .bash_history
>>52204001
either turn that off and make your home directory not world readable
problem solved
>>52204029
You first
>btfo by proof
>still defending Linux
Are Linux users the ultimate cucks?
>>52204412
Terrible proof failed to convince people. What a surprise.
What's next, are you going to pull out those training slides from MS?
>>52204321
ok
chmod -R 700 /home/user
>>52204805
>700
That seems like a bad idea.
>>52204864
how
it pretty much means "allow owner to read, write and execute and don't allow anyone else"
>>52204891
Adding execute permission to random files is considered poor practice.
It's not going to be the end of the world, but it's still inadvisable.
>>52204920
then 600 is what you want
you should know what you have in your home folder though, if 700 is seriously that worrying then there's a problem
>>52198452
There are OP's on /g/ right now that don't compile their own OS from source.
>>52199430
so it's 119 for linux and at least 218 for windows overall while linux has only 24 high vulns while windows has 122
>>52199755
>>52199772
I have successfully utilized this same hack to get into Windows 10.
Microsoft has never fixed this issue, and possibly never will, since it requires physical access to the system and the ability to edit NTFS file-system from a live boot. It's a "very specific security scenario" according to Microsoft.
>>52199601
>/log-into-most-any-linux-system-by-hitting-backspace-28-times/
Virtually nobody knows about or uses this feature. What a load of shit.
>>52204321
HISTFILE=/dev/null
>>52198496
OP will surely deliver
>>52204962
Not really. Most of those Windows vulnerabilities are probably shared between different releases.
The real issue with the table is the massive reporting bias - Every single bugfix and issue that gets resolved in Linux is public, but Microsoft only talks about vulnerabilities if and when it feels like it.
>>52198452
Freedom doesnt just mean privacy.
If you listened to stallman you'd know that, Rajesh.
>>52204936
i compiled the entirety of openbsd several times
does that count
