All memes aside, which company makes the better drivers and GPUs and why do you believe that?
>>52163631
nvidia because it's true
>>52163663
And why is it true?
>>52163672
because nvidia is the way to be meme'd
AMD
> paying the green gaymur tax
>>52163631
AMD has the best drivers hands down.
>>52163631
My friends gtx 670 drivers have been really shit on windows 10 so far, to the point where shadowplay will sometimes crash the driver when he tries to use it.
So I'd have to say AMD since I haven't had any problems on my r7 265.
>inb4 fan bug
IDK what that even was, I never got it.
>>52163736
You sir are an AMD shill.
NVIDIA has the best drivers around, literally fucking amazing. At least there drivers don't make the GPU's kamikaze. Plus Geforce experience is freaking amazing >>52163863
>>52163933
Literally this.
>>52163704
AMD is the way to burn your house down. It wants to do it so bad that it turns it's fans off
>>52163631
AMD has better hardware (heterogenous architecture) and better long term driver support.
Nvidia is good on release but not if you plan on keeping your card long. Nvidia cards stop getting driver optimizations soon after the next series comes out.
>>52163933
Thank you Pajeet. 20 rupees have been deposited in your account.
Nvidia still has better drivers but more expensive HW
>>52163970
Dude if you can't buy a GPU every 2 years you are a poorfag.
>>52163933
>At least there drivers don't make the GPU's kamikaze.
Nvidia released 3 different WHQL drivers that killed cards.
>>52163973
I'll donate it to charity t h a n k s
Uhh Nvidia. Is this even a question?
>>52163992
I didn't ask you
>>52163986
I'm not a poorfag and I'm still on a hd 7950.
It does everything I need, why upgrade?
>>52163933
http://modcrash.com/nvidia-display-driver-damaging-gpus/
http://www.zdnet.com/article/warning-nvidia-196-75-drivers-can-kill-your-graphics-card/
http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/windows-10-nvidia-whql-drivers-are-killing-alienware-and-clevo-lcd-panels.779449/
I think I'm going to have to say AMD makes the better drivers.
>>52164209
How long till the new AMD Linux drivers?
Aren't they going open source?
>>52163863
>Shadowplay
This is not the driver issue but shadowplay issue
>>52163933
>geforce experience
Back to reddit
>>52164119
Boohoo, one minor software error that happened once in 22 years. Better start boycotting them
>>52163736
I think everyone just likes the color green over red
Both companies have their moments, both up and down.
Currently AMD has the advantage, but that will change eventually, as it always does.
>>52163933
>Geforce experience
Includes 30000% more stutter with every download!
Nvidia driver update killed the GPU in my laptop... AMD card in desktop still going strong after three years. 7970 @ 1100MHz
I've had bad experience with Nvidia and I hate them for their blatant lies (3.5GB, woodscrews, etc) vs AMD who's an underdog but trying.
>>52164536
970 issues - Nvidia is the good guy
Lawsuits against Samsung and Qualcomm for questionable stuff - Nvidia is the good guy
Nvidia games - Batman, Assassins Creed, etc. - Nope, its the developer. Nvidia is the good guy
Nvidia false advertising Batman - Nvidia is the good guy
Nvidia using non G-Sync technology on G-Sync branded laptops - Nvidia is the good guy
8800 GTX runs over it's TDP and overstresses PSUs not built for it - Nvidia is the good guy
Mobile GeForce 8000 series desoldering themselves - Nvidia is the good guy
Fermi GF100 hot chips yield 1.8% success - Nvidia is the good guy
GTX 480s catching fire - Nvidia is the good guy
GTX 590s catching fire - Nvidia is the good guy
GTX Titan has no drivers until 3 months after launch - Nvidia is the good guy
Drivers that melted GTX 780s - Nvidia is the good guy
GTX 960 beating the Titan Black and GTX 780 Ti because of nerfed drivers - Nvidia is the good guy
DX12 benchmarks, blaming the devs for poor results - Nvidia is the good guy
Whatever you say Jamal
AMD doesn't even have any drivers
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5775/amd-hd-2000-hd-3000-hd-4000-gpus-being-moved-to-legacy-status-in-may
Tesla still supported until April 2016
http://www.anandtech.com/show/9815/amd-moves-pre-gcn-gpus-to-legacy
Fermi supported until at least 2018-2020
>>52164679
>Mobile GeForce 8000 series desoldering themselves
To be honest, that is not exclusive to those series at all. Many GPUs die because of the shitty solder used, which has to be used since EU banned lead in most electric circuits
>>52164686
HD 2000 3000 and 4000 series cards (old as dirt) got optimizations until the last day.
Putting a new label on a 4 year old driver does not a new driver make.
>>52163672
>And why is it true?
Because they shill all developers to use their hardware, or to use their own proprietary solution.
AMD just doesn't have the funds to compete, despite almost always having superior hardware.
But whenever it comes to a platform change, NVidia gets shit on bigtime. Nforce chipsets got a big fuck you when Vista came around, and they are getting the same now with Win10.
>>52164047
poorfags are actually this delusional lmao
>>52164686
Pointless updates.
Either nvidia drivers are so shit they've still got to optimise for the older architectures like tesla, or they're just doing it to look like the good guys.
The vliw has reached its peak performance and simply can't be optimised efficiently anymore.
When was the last driver update that actually improved performance for their older gens?
Last I heard was their not even optimising older gen cards to sell their new ones.
Gtx 970 is even outperforming a 780 ti, it's like they're not even trying to hide it.
>>52164679
Don't forget the class action lawsuit that resulted in the 8800GTX cards not having Vista drivers for months, despite the cards being advertised as supporting DX10.
>>52164797
I'm not a poorfag, but at 90k a year I wouldn't say I'm a richfag either.
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=amd-crimson-linux&num=1
AMD HAS NO DRIVERS
>>52164841
ok, keep telling yourself that buddy
>>52164679
Converted console gaymer kids end up on NVidia because of marketing, and tech enthusiasts go AMD because of lingering ATI nostalgia.
Nvidia, rock solid drivers, long term support
AMD, HOUSEFIRES and no drivers, 4 years driver support
>>52164886
So you're saying the hd 7950 is no longer supported? It is a 4 year old gpu now.
Intel = enough to get you by if you don't play games and just want to use desktop apps and videos. Dirt cheap. Best drivers for linux and windows, but they don't really do much in the first place.
AMD = best dollar / performance ratio. Good drivers for windows with some hit and misses mostly for old cards from ATi era. Not so great linux drivers. Also has a sexy girl which nobody else has
NVIDIA = highest performance, most expensive. Great drivers for everything.
some random games and apps will prefer one type of card over the other and cherry picking like this cannot be used to say that one is better than the other.
So many nvidia fan gays in this thread, get out of here with your gay shit.
Nvidia always, cuz I'm a laptop user and AMD can't even make a shit teir mobile GPU
>>52163631
nvidia = better Windows drivers most of the time.
AMD = better GNULinux firmware most of the time.
>>52164788
>got optimizations until the last day.
Intel driver support is still the worst
There's like 5 guys doing ALL the shit
A ton of older games (pre DirectX9) were completely broken on 3rd gen HD graphics and only fixed it after I showed them the issue on their forums
>>52163631
>release fury x
>wait 4 month for the crimson drivers
>>52163933
>geforce experience, amazing
back to le reddit m8
>>52164864
>lingering ATI nostalgia.
Because ATI had soo good drivers before they were bought, right?
No they didn't, they somehow completely fucked up their drivers before launching the first HD series
>>52165141
>AMD
>linux
Jesus stop, it's exactly why I don't like AMD
>>52163631
Drivers= nvidia
Most gpus that people will actually get 960vs380 970vs390 = amd
>>52165142
I'm the guy that added dx7/8 caps in the driver for those games. You're welcome.
>>52165181
it's too awesome for you anon?
>>52165033
I wouldn't say nvidia has the highest performance. With the fury x they're kinda matched. It's even trading blows with the Titan x now thanks to drivers.
I wouldn't say one is better than the other, because the fury x might be pulling ahead now but it's still limited by 4gb vram.
They're both great GPUs.
Also another factor is that while the fury x is starting to pull ahead, the titanx/980 ti can still be overclocked to outperform it.
In the end I guess it just comes down to which brand you prefer.
>>52163933
"Gpus kamakaze"
Both sides have done this
>>52165158
Wait, do you really think the Fury X needed Crimson to work?
Unless you have used both nvidia and amd that are equal in power you can't really say shit, so I have to ask who here? has used them both and which is better
>>52165209
Thanks!
Do you know if it's possible on Baytrail tablets to add custom resolutions? I heard that it's not possible
>>52165234
I have a gtx 570 and a hd 5870.
Will post pictures for proof when I get home, will then test both.
I have both Nvidia and AMD. In the future, I will be going with Nvidia simply because more software is Cuda based, especially in the content creation market, which I'm in. If I was just gaming I would go with AMD due to the cost savings.
>>52165287
AMD has gotten so mad about CUDA that they started the 'Boltzmann initiative', which allows people to just convert over CUDA stuff automatically. If it weren't for licensing and legal bullshit, I'm pretty sure they'd just make their cards compatible.
>>52165234
I've used both and nvidia hands down. I used to sell refurbished gpus for some extra spending money and amd customers are always the most problematic. They're full of questions, wants to return past 30 days, flakes on the transaction, wants to cancel mid transit and tons of other shitty stuff.
>>52164045
get btfo
>>52163631
AMD, because NVIDIA are for manchildrens, gaymer autistic kids and c u c k
>>52163631
3Dfx
>>52164045
Lol you got fuckin shit on m80
Watcha gon do nivdia fanfuck
>>52164679
You should not forget this
http://forum.cyberlink.com/forum/posts/list/40521.page
>>52164536
>"At least they don't make graphics cards go kamikaze like AMD does!"
>Evidence posted that they do more often than AMD does
>"boo hoo"
>>52165428
Aye
>>52165243
Not sure I just work on the 3d side of the driver which is mainly fixing game bugs in directx. Resolution issues are KMD side. A lot of the baytrail work was outsourced to teams in India so you can probably thank them for your lack of support. Now that broxton is out, no one will really look at those issues, unless an OEM requests it I guess.
>>52165564
Oh well. Why was old DX support missing anyway? Will it be missing in newer generations?
And why are there so few 3D related settings in the control panel, and what does the "optimal mode for applications" setting actually do?
Nvidia, easier to get working on gentoo.
>>52164045
>I didn't ask you
Can get anymore defeated than that.
>>52166108
Try compiling the official drivers
Oh wait
>>52166167
I don't compile the driver, but I have to compile the kernel to work with it.
>>52163672
Because /v/ is leaking
>>52164536
>>52166290
More like Intel shills are here
Just take a look at this.
https://warosu.org/g/image/b0B3vqT_wcU60xJwlR7NvQ
>>52164886
>4 years driver support
The 7970 is from January 2012 and it's still a really fucking great card thanks to driver support, that shit was made to compete with the 680 and look where they both are nowadays
>>52163631
I think both have ups and downs. When i used my 4550 & 5770 ATI's and a AMD 7850 i had 0 driver problems. Now i'm using a Nvidia gtx 760 and the drivers have been terrible buggy for a couple of months now.
So what AMD drivers should I install? /g/ rages that Crimson is shit, is there a recommended driver?
>>52163933
>>52164119
Do not forget the 320.18 driver fiasco.
Not a fanboy of any brand, just i don't want Pajeet to spread lies.
>>52166396
Try crimson.
It's been great on my computer so far, but I only play gta v and bf4 so I don't know about other games.
I love the new ui though.
>>52163631
Nvidia work better with Linux and has the best(still not good) software suite to go with it.
>>52166396
15.11.1beta if you want to be safe, Crimson if you wanna risk loss at performance (didn't happen to me although I had a black screen yesterday)
>>52163631
nvidia, because the only AMD GPU I ever had got bricked by a driver update a week after I bought it.
>>52166472
Could you not rma it?
>>52163992
My 860m still fucked
>he purchases AMD products
>>52166712
>he shills for Nvidia
>>52163631
>AMD
>good
>>52166719
>he purchases AMD products
>>52166740
>he listens to the shills
My new PC will certainly have an AMP CPU, even though I haven't bought anything from them since the Athlon XP
>>52166752
>AMD cpu
>>52166712
>smells good
I can just picture it, a young kid running around holding his spare gtx 970 because his motherboard only supports 2 and he ordered 3.
Running around, crashing into people, pressing his nose into them and inhaling deeply before either shouting "Nvidia bro" or "AMD cuck"
Pic semi related.
>>52166781
>when AMD cucks attempt to damage control
>>52166781
How many times did your drivers crash when you tried to type that out?
>>52166789
>>52166772
>>52166740
>>52166728
>>52166712
Keep posting your shitty JPEGs. They will convince everybody!
>>52166819
>>52166789
Don't even need to.
I know what my next upgrade will be, and I'm sure anyone smart enough to do some research will know the same.
>>52166772
You faggots know amd wrote the x86_64 instruction set right? that intel licenses to this day
>>52166812
>this AMD cuck is THIS mad
Thanks for proving my point, bud.
>>52166712
Is that you?
>>52166839
I was siding with Nvidia.
>>52166854
Heh. my bad, meant to quote the guy below you.
>>52163863
Because windows 10 is ass
>I'm a proud AMD user
>>52166847
>bought 750Ti
>now got GTA 5
>HDD too slow so it is constantly stuttering from the loading
I knew a Q6600 and a PCI-E 1.0 main board would not be fast, but come the fuck on
>>52166923
I have a friend that plays GTA V fine with a 750ti and he doesn't even have a SSD
>>52166935
It works okay, it's just that loading the textures is noticeable when I set them to "High"
Otherwise they look like shit
>>52166923
You should have gotten an r7 370 instead, I have a similar system and It plays great.
>>52166953
I am using linux as my main OS and I like the nvidia driver for it
>>52166812
>drivers crashing
I wouldn't know, I haven't used nvidia since my gtx 570 and its shit drivers.
>>52166947
He used "Very High" textures with no problems, I couldn't believe it if he said to me but I saw with my own eyes. What CPU do you have, though?
Intel has the best driver support on every platform with 100% FOSS drivers.
Both Nvidia and AMD should be pressured to match Intel's level of quality, but because Intel isn't in the discrete GPU race nobody ever talks about them in that context.
>>52167083
Q6600 at stock 2.4GHz
Shitty OEM main board (only one I have which supports more than 4GB RAM)
I currently have 6GB in it, really should try if it runs better with 8GB
And a shitty Hitachi deskstar 1TB HDD
>>52167110
Last time I checked baytrail linux drivers barely worked at all
>>52167110
Actually AMD is going to release foss drivers. Only the kernel will be closed source.
It's going to be a big step forward for them in the Linux community and it can't come soon enough.
>>52167117
The game's heavily dependent on the CPU too, get a better one and performance will improve a lot
>>52165142
>There's like 5 guys doing ALL the shit
I think you've mixed up AMD and Intel.
Intel has over two dozen full time developers for their FOSS graphics drivers, while AMD is quoted as only having 5 (http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTI5MTI)
>>52167141
You sure? CPU usage did not seem to be that high when I was playing it. And I really don't want to invest more in this really old system, but also don't want to spend a ridiculous amount on new hardware right now
>>52167124
You must be mistaken or confusing what the discussion is about. Bay trail uses Intel HD and has had support built into the linux kernel since 2014.
>>52167171
I am, I play with everything maximized besides MSAA and advanced options and my i5 4460 usage gets to almost 100% inside the city
>>52167171
If money's an issue see if you can get a q9550 or do the xeon mod for cheap.
Otherwise I'd recommend grabbing a used i5 2400 or something similar. It'll be quite cheap and also a massive step up in cpu performance.
>>52163970
>AMD have better hardware
My sides
>>52164797
>poorfags
Meaningless term. You can make less than 5k a year and still have enough money for even a 980 ti lmao
>>52167192
>Bay trail uses Intel HD and has had support built into the linux kernel since 2014.
That's nice and everything, but when I actually boot it on my tablet it seems to use software rendering or some shit
>>52167194
I guess I'll have to get an SSD and try it
>>52167196
I don't think Xeon mods work with the main board, it has a Q35 chipset. I'll buy a new system 8Main board, RAM, CPU) in the future but I rarely play games and this system is still fine for shitposting
>>52167233
That's still ddr2 isn't it?
I thought so, your cpu should still be fine for gta v because it's quad core. Upgrade to a ddr3 board if you can.
Or like I mentioned. Previous gen coreI series computers are going cheap on the used market and should be faster.
I got a refurbished 295x2 for $450 at microcenter, keeps a stable 9% overclock on both cards.
It will probably outperform all of nvidia's next generation single slot video cards, and will beat the price/performance ratio for at least 3 years even with shitty drivers.
Since I get free electricity at college and am stuck to a single slot ITX board for the foreseeable future, I won't get a better offering from nvidia until 2020 at worst, and by that time AMD will have much better crossfire cards to upgrade to anyways.
>>52167385
How is crossfire?
I'm thinking of grabbing a second r7 260x because they're pretty cheap now.
>>52167482
Crossfire scaling is better than SLI scaling, if supported.
I'm not sure if crossfire 260Xs are worth it though, might as well get a more powerful single card and not have to deal with multi-GPU config-related issues.
>>52164864
So fucking true. My ATI nostalgia has kept me away from Nvidia shit though, so it's all good.
>>52163631
I believe /v/ should leave
>>52167531
While that may be true, I already have a 260x.
I can get a second one for around 50 aud from a mate who just upgraded to a 980 ti.
>>52163631
Truthfully AMD fucked itself over.
3-4 years ago all their stuff, hardware wise, was vastly superior in synthetic benchmarks.
I remember when the 6-8 core cpu's came out and they were bragging about performance, it wasn't for 2-3 years before I can even think of an AAA title that could properly use 6 cores.
now they are starting a flinging shit war with Geforce hoping to get the first card out that utilizes DX12 correctly.
It used to be AMD and Geforce flipped between being the power house every 2 years. Basically one would hit it's "tick" stage while the other hit it's "tock" stage. Sadly since Geforce started releasing the TI series, AMD can't even really keep up in the price to performance ratio any more.
Maybe nVidia drivers are shit, but they're rarely "just kill my GPU senpai" shit like AMDs
>>52163672
I have a R9 390
I have to wait for like 2 months for game optimized drivers to come out.
Menwhile while I had an Nvidia 460 they'd release a Nvidia driver for each and every even remotely popular game release.
And since popular high end releases usually have good graphics it pretty much turns out they release game custom drivers for each and every good looking game.
>>52169301
Just install the fucking Beta drivers
>>52169577
>Just install beta "brick your few hundred dollarydoo GPU" drivers
>>52166830
>7970 not beating the 680
>>52169795
AMD beta drivers have done a hell of a lot less damage than Nvidia whql drivers.
>>52169826
Even the 7950 beats the gtx 680 these days.
But don't worry, nvidia still supports the 680, just like they support the 260 and 8800 :')
>>52165158
I don't think you're /v/ery well suited to this /b/oard...
>>52165234
Both, gotta be AMD. Had significantly less shit with them, even if CCC is a bit rubbish.
>>52164045
>>52166712
wow great argument fagtron you sure convinced me with those hot opinions
A decade ago I always went nvidia, then decided to switch as several of them went faulty.
Now with AMD I'm not exactly 100% happy, these fuckers really should spend some of those months they take between driver releases to actually tweak these drivers. We're in 2016 now and we still have to use some .dll files to fix the fucking radar in FO4.
I would have gone for a 960 instead of my 280x, but I got this thing for 150€ and I value my money more than performance. Though to be quite honest I think the 960 isn't that good either, but that's pretty much the only option I had on the nvidia side.
I often switched between AMD and Nvidia, simply buying the fastest card I could afford. I never found one particularily superior to the other.
I don't get how people can become so spastic about AMD vs Nvidia. Ever since AMDs 4000 series, they were pretty even.
>>52171781
A 960 isn't even close to a 280x.
>>52171997
Guess I was wrong then. And I was right about my purchase.
>>52172015
The 7970 (which is what the 280x is) is four years old by the point and still handles the latest and greatest at 1080p with only minor difficulty. Clock it up to 1100mhz+ and you are going to have an excellent experience for the next four years.
>>52172094
Mine's at 1070mhz currently, picture related. I'm kinda afraid of this overclocking thing just fucking up with the card, I have reached 80c at times with it.
Also I cannot say I don't have issues with some games. FO4 for instance, if I want to get stable 60fps with minor drops I better keep distance on everything at minimum, otherwise it doesn't matter how low I go with the settings. AC Syndicate is quite a bitch too.
Maybe it's the processor, it's a 4460. Can't overclock this thing of course, but I'm ok with it.
>>52172157
> if I want to get stable 60fps with minor drops I better keep distance on everything at minimum
Nobody can get a stable 60fps lock on FO4 at approaching max settings at 1080p on a single card - the shadows are slaughtering performance. Plus the game really, really likes fast ram.
Though I wouldn't expect to get 60fps minimum on any modern game on any card really at 1080p as that is severely unlikely to happen - 60fps average is a different matter entirely.
>>52172175
Yeah I know about the shadows being a dick.
On the other hand, GTA V runs pretty excellently as long as I keep the distance scaling low enough and grass which seems to fuck performance up, can keep everything else on very high without issues. Pretty happy with that considering I come from a PC that couldn't handle the game on the lowest settings at 30fps.
