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Other business laptops are also welcome in /tpg/ (e.g. Dell Latitude/Precision, HP EliteBook/ZBook).
If you're looking for purchase advice, READ THE BUYERS GUIDE FIRST. Then post, stating budget and requirements (e.g. size and performance).
Don't buy anything OTHER THAN T, X AND W/P SERIES if you want the Real ThinkPad Experience™
Recommended models:
T420 - 14", normal size
X220 - 12.5", lightweight
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No news.
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Why ThinkPad? (also applies to other business laptops)
>They’re really cheap when you buy a used one.
>Keyboards feel excellent while typing (yes, even the newer ones).
>Great durability thanks to the inclusion of rollcages and use of glass fiber reinforced plastic for the chassis. The keyboard is splash proof and spilled liquids will drain out.
>Utilitarian design - e.g. indicator LEDs, 7 row keyboard layout on older models.
>Docking solutions that easily turns your laptop into a desktop.
>Easy to repair, upgrade and maintain thanks to readily available service manuals for almost every model. Spare parts are easy and cheap to obtain.
>The best trackpoint (that red thing on the middle of the keyboard). Great for those who type a lot or hate swiping their fingers all over a touchpad.
>Excellent GNU/Linux & *BSD support.
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Used ThinkPad Buyers Guide:
http://ktgee.net/tpg
EPP discount for new ThinkPads (USA & Canada only, usually 15%+ off):
http://pastebin.com/wumE7L2f
ThinkWiki - Info on ThinkPads and running GNU/Linux on them:
http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ThinkWiki
ThinkPad service guides w/ tutorial videos:
https://www.lenovoservicetraining.com/
>>52157236
quick very important question: can the x220 be overclocked via advanced menu in Oleh's modded bios?
Please for the love of god tell me it can be, I'll get a x220 immediately
t450 ordered did i do good g?
with the FHD screen, i5-5300u, planning on putting 16gb in this badboy with a 512gb samsung pro.
>>52157268
>X220
>overclock
There's easier ways to kill yourself, anon.
Happy new year, /tpg/ !
Who else /comfy/ on new year's ?
>>52157269
Yes you did. Spergs love to hate that model, enjoy their rage.
Is it true that express card USB 3.0 adapters are power hungy?
>>52157340
I don't see a reason why I shouldn't overclock the i5-2520m unit to the same frequency as the i7-2640m (which is physically the same, only the cost is higher).
>>52157368
Generally no.
But still not as power hungry and your mom is.
>>52157490
Because X220 only barely manages to keep a CPU cool. If anything you'd want to underclock on that machine.
>>52157525
Can you recommend a good one?
Can someone tell me what this spot is on my x220t? Sorry for the bad picture but it's the best
I could manage. It's a bright spot that shows up best on white and light colors and disappears when the screen is displaying black.
>>52157525
how fucking rude you cockgobbling jew.
>>52157538
Have x220, can confirm this thing barely stays cool. I really like this laptop, no intentions to replace it any time soon, but when running heavy workloads cpu easily gets above 85 degrees C. Docking station makes it worse too.
>>52157589
That looks like screen burn in to me. The panel on the x220 actually does suffer from ghosting/burn in artefacts fairly quickly. I would recommend turning your backlight down, that seems to help. Also, make sure you use a screensaver, you don't want to leave the screen on the same image for too long.
>>52157490
In the specific case of the X220, there actually is. i7 models have a USB 3.0 port, while i5 models only have USB 2.0.
>>52157589
Looks like the panel was probably damaged by pressure in that area.
>>52157738
That's what I'm thinking too.
>>52157596
Antisemitism is illegal in most countries.
You better watch your language, americuck.
>>52157865
kike alert warm up the ovens 14/88 seig heil you foreskin muncher :^)
>>52157738
fug I didn't want to return it
>>52157908
Please remind me who owns you, your family, your country and banks including all your money?
You're worthless piece of shit with no power and no rights.
>>52157936
You can always just replace the screen.
>>52157951
holy shit moshe I was joking but please jerk off to your tribal fantasies if it will calm you down
>implying you know where I'm posting from or who I am
kosher delusion
>>52157968
I already paid 300 dollarydoos and the panels are how much?
>>52157951
aww did he hurt your feelings shekelstein, do you need rabbi to rub your back?
>>52157990
Dunno how expensive the X220 IPS panels are, but I know that a 1080p TN for T/W520 is about 50 dollarydoos.
Look up which part number you need, and search for it on ebay or whatever.
These temps though! Holy shit, this thing struggles with some gaymes
>>52158067
That's because using the dGPU will increase temps, what games do you run? If your iGPU can't run it then consider not playing it, for the sake of your laptops health
>>52158131
I was just playing the alpha of Slime Rancher. I really don't play games all that much anymore, what with work and pretending to be a responsible adult (also, my work schedule is retarded)
But most likely Slime Rancher being an alpha just means it is horribly unoptimized and it simply shouldn't be played for now.
On an unrelated note, I just discovered you can actually pre-fill captchas so you don't have to keep redoing them.
That's actually a really nice feature, I think
>>52158183
Disable your dGPU via BIOS and try playing again, you'll likely get a decrease in temps
>>52158418
I actually ran it on the iGPU first. It stuttered and lagged so hard it was unplayable even on the lowest settings. I switched to dGPU, that is what temps looked like after an hour.
Game ran fine except for when there were too many slimes on screen at once. Had everything set to low to compensate.
>>52157236
Looking for used thinkpads T61 to t430, is there any redflag while inspecting a used Thinkpad that you can guys warn me about?
It's...beautiful
>>52158522
non-T/10
>>52157865
Did you drink too much orange jews this morning lil hitler?
>>52158460
make sure there is no bios supervisor password
make sure computertrace is permanently disabled (or at least just disabled)
What laptop would you guys recommend that doesn't look like a thinkpad?
>>52157236
All these Thinkpad threads and no
https://www.lenovo.com/psref/pdf/tabook.pdf
in the first post yet?
If you are interested in used 'Pads you need this for comparison info since not all models are the same. It helps greatly when buying organ donors off Ebay or Craigslist when the seller doesn't know shit about the item.
Please fix this error and add to future Thinkpad threads.
>>52158596
T420
>>52158596
macbook air.
>>52158596
T420. Remove branding. Now it's a laptop that doesn't look like a Thinkpad
>Or just be an idiot and buy that HP Stream thing
>>52158644
>>52158693
looks like shit
>>52158730
Get out
>>52158730
It doesn't look like shit
It looks like a machine that can take a beating
If you want a machine that can take a full on throw it against the wall and jump on it like a pissed off nigger, then allow me to give you a recommendation
>Panasonic Toughbook CF-29
>>52158730
>bu-but Anon! I need widescreen 16:9 to watch my dramas! This is not good enough
Alright then, sweet heart. Have a more modern one. Built tough, made to last
Wide screen for all your media consumption needs
>Panasonic Toughbook CF-53
>>52158814
>>52158771
these also look horrible
Are there any quality laptops that don't look like industrial equipment?
>>52158607
is there a similar version for X/T/W x20 models?
>>52158841
Military grade metal frames aren't acceptable?
Well, then. I'd like you to tell me what exactly you are looking for.
See, /tpg/ is into business notebooks. HP Elitebooks look good enough that my fiancee has a 2760p Tablet that she's in love with
Thinkpads are tough enough that I throw them in my pack before heading off to work, never a scratch on it.
Dell's Precision line is the only other line of laptops (besides the aforementioned Toughbooks) that my dad allows in his fleet of trucks.
If you're looking for aesthetics, I used to have an MSI FX-603. But the hinges gave out in just under 3 years of use, as well as the ribbon cable.
If you're into art, music, or some other liberal hippy bullshit, look at Macs. I'm being serious. Macs are great for creative types. My uncle does graphic design for an airline company, that's what he uses.
Otherwise, you'll have a tough time finding a computer that is both well built and pretty
>pic related, fiancee likes this machine
I want to put the original Seagate HDD in the Ultrabay, but I can't get the existing optical drive out because the lock part is missing. I just see blue plastic in the bottom. How can I get the drive out?
>>52158965
>Macs are great for creative types.
What a meme. I can't even draw on it.
>>52158548
I travel a lot for work so it was the best option for what I do. I love the T420 but I put a lot of thought into the decision
>>52159153
Well, it doesn't really work for drawing unless you have a Wacom drawing pad thing. I meant it more like graphic design or music stuff.
>>52159654
>graphic design
Still need sketching. There's nothing software on OS X can do that software on Windows can't do is what I'm getting at though.
>>52159682
Believe me, I know that much. But graphic designers and video production people swear by OS X for some unknown reason. Personally, I follow the principle of "it if works, it works"
Use my Thinkpad for everything, and am just debating about getting a second SSD or not
Here for the trap.
>>52160178
Buying an e series?
won an auction on an x220t with a chipped corner with i7 8GB RAM and a 240GB SSD for 200 USD
praying the express card slot on that corner isn't fucked and the seller didn't say
>>52157268
No, it can't, and forget oleh, he was just thief, grabbed some free mods and put them under paid download, get that bios from other thread for free and be happy. [source: I did it and I am satisfied (for now).]
>>52158548
>non-T
forgot to read OP? :^)
Well, my old laptop just gave up on me today. So, I think it's finally time to make the transition to thinkpads.
What's a good model for someone who does a lot of webdeving?
Ssd would also be a bonus.
>>52160634
>forgot to read OP? :^)
As in tablet.
>>52157236
Is it worth it upgrading a 14" panel from HD to full HD ? Currently using a dell latitude.
>>52160708
You can always add an SSD yourself.
>>52160745
Depends on the cost. The difference is very noticeable and nice.
So does libreboot really not work with different brand RAM sticks of the same capacity?
>>52160762
https://www.laptopscreen.com/German/model/Dell/LATITUDE~E5450/
about 56 eurobucks for the matte one. Dunno where else to get them desu. I'll take a look on ebay.
>>52160814
That's not bad. Definitely check all your options.
>>52160829
How does the battery life change with a fhd screen ? Is it noticeable (like 1-2 hours shorter)?
>tfw if i didn't already have a t420 i would buy this so fast
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-X220-Notebook-Laptop-i5-2-3GHz-4GB-RAM-300GB-HD-Windows7-/151934615807?hash=item23600240ff:g:zt8AAOSwAYtWN5Lq
get it while its hot /tpg/
>>52160907
Not much in my experience.
>spring cleaning
Soon.
Hope you have a nice new year /tpg/
I didn't win that transnote
>>52161419
When's the intervention? How do I get a ticket?
>>52161419
I'm contacting a certain reality show.
>>52160086
Eh, its just marketed to art students.
But Illustrator was a popular program back in the 80's, it was originally made for macintosh and in the early 90's, the Windows ports sucked compared to Apple.
>>52161623
>>52161538
No. :(
>>52161660
Yes anon. You are made for daytime TV.
>>52161660
That is true. Illustrator and Photoshop are complete garbage on Windows.
Then again, M$ Office is garbage on OS X
>>52161900
>photoshop is garbage on windows
wat
>>52162568
It really is though
My uncle taught me to use it on Mac. I'm not a pro, and I'll be damned if I say I care too much about modifying things, but on Windows it just feels so slow...
Might be a placebo or something, but it just feels off
>>52162599
wow anon
>>52161900
>Illustrator and Photoshop are complete garbage on Windows.
u wot m8
>>52162687
Illustrator is confirmed garbage on Windows
PS might be an exception
>>52161419
you selling
>>52161419
If you've got a W520 I'll take it
>>52162568
>>52162687
Dunno about Illustrator, but Photoshop has a lot of little annoyances on Windows. Particularly how much Alt is used in hotkeys, and every time you use one of those hotkeys you also focus the menu.
Haven't tried the OS X version though, so I don't know if that's a thing there.
>>52162599
No longer true with Photoshop. Ever since CS4, all Adobe software got fast on Windows while feeling slow and bloated as hell on OSX.
Photoshop CC runs real nice on my Atom 2GB Surface 3 while lagging like shit on my rMBP13 8GB.
You have to be absolutely retarded to buy a Mac post 2014, the competition is so much better these days with super efficient Skylake CPUs and Windows 10 is really light on RAM.
>>52162749
>Windows 10
Seriously though, I just don't want to risk the botnet that is 10. I used it when it came out. It's amazing, and I love how beautiful Windows has become, but goddamn am I worried about the possibilities that they've created for datamining.
>>52162820
Then Windows 8.1 is for you, fampai
>>52162852
I'm sticking with 7 for now. It works fine, the rice is already boiled, and my Tblazeit is in perfect operating condition.
Let me know when some group manage to permanently kill the botnet bits of 10. I have a Pro Key for it
Just placed an order on t450 @ Lenovo outlet for less than $380.
I5-5300
HD+
4gb ram
500 gb 7200 rpm hd
6-cell battery.
How did I do /g/
Also anyone know why it doesn't seem to have an internal battery? Is that normal?
>>52162991
Internal battery? What are you on about?
>>52163089
What do you mean? Every t450 I looked at have a 3 cell internal battery. Except for the one I got. Why is that?
>>52163169
I never knew that.
If your T450 doesn't have an internal battery, that might be the reason it was being sold at an outlet. Outlets are where defective items are sold
>>52162820
>goddamn am I worried about the possibilities that they've created for datamining.
literally the same shit that is on every other computer in the world.
>>52162991
I'd look into upgrading the display but otherwise not horrible, especially for dat price
>>52163245
My first upgrade is gonna be an ssd. Already got a few 4 gb ram laying around as well. The display shouldn't be too bad, it's still 1600x900. Oh well I have to find out when it arrive.
>>52163290
I don't think so tim. AFAIK the only configuration for a normal t450 is 1366x768 but if the outlet said otherwise then so be it
>>52163298
It's 1600x900 Jeb.
>>52162986
I'd just like you to know that 8.1 has the (almost) all the performance improvements of 10 with the same amount of botnet as 7.
Happy new year /tpg/, here's to another year of Lelnovo fucking up thinkpads
>>52163327
Really? I just still see issues with 8.1 that I never have on 7 or had in my time with 10
>>52163348
this is actually the second year in a row of improvement
they hit rock bottom with the t440 and x1 gen2
>>52163361
Yeah. 8.1 also has modern apps (albeit a shitty implementation of them), which is useful if you use Netflix since the app will stream in higher quality than the browser version. Dunno if modern apps are useful for anything else.
What issues do you have with it ? It's been the most stable version for me.
>>52163371
>X1 gen 2
JUST
does anyone unironically think that thinkpads have been even remotely more sturdy than pile of plastic shit laptops from no name brands ever since shitnovo bought them out?
>>52163440
yes, because they objectively contain rollcages in them still and the good series, and even some shit series, use carbon fiber and metal on the exterior
>>52163457
>metal
>sturdy
then why dont they make airplanes out of it?
fucking retard
>>52163417
It literally blew itself up 3 times on me, running dskchk by itself if I turned on computer and walked away and just generally destroying the OS.
Not worth it to me
>>52163437
Geez, lack of TrackPoint + Shitty TrackPad that you will definitely hit when you are typing makes for the worst experience.
>>52157951
and the jews own you
>>52158460
Nvidia GPU on T61 die frequently, but those with it make good organ donors in many cases. Read psref book to check prospective buys.
>>52163468
Airplanes are made of a variety of composites and metal too. They are not skinned with brittle plastic like shitbrand notebooks.
>>52160722
>tablets
Literal meme gimmick.
>>52160955
but there's barely any info posted, how could you be so sure this is a good deal?
Just beat portal 1 using only the trackpoint
feels good man
Any other ideas for other easy FPS-type games? I've had good success with Morrowind, Minecraft, and (vanilla) Doom. Counterstrike didn't go well at all.
>>52163833
>lack of TrackPoint
What are you talking about? The trackpoint is right there dead center, it's literally like a fucking target.
Heya, I was looking at laptops on craigslist and came across a couple x200 tablets and an x201 tablet, I was wondering if these would be an ideal laptop for somebody whos learning to program (and would probably install a linux distro)
Got a thinkpad x1 carbon for Christmas, slapped ubuntu on it. I wanan rice it out, what should a nigga do?
>>52164576
What info are you needing? Seller says it's in perfect working condition, but I guess you'd need to know if it's BIOS locked I guess, just email the seller if you think it's sketchy
>>52162687
what the fuck is going on in this picture
>>52165001
Computrace lol
just received my t440 from amazon today
keyboard isnt bad
amazingly thin and aesthetic
heating up a bit, thinkpad is drek but ordering a new one asap, also no led indicators
what should i install etc?
>>52165483
a ubuntu derivative and tlp
Has anyone got one of these things for their desktop? Is it any good? Looks comfy as fuck desu familia.
>>52166281
Forgot image
>>52166281
>>52166298
seems dumb
>>52166502
Why?
>>52166514
i can understand wanting the nipple thing but the rest of the design didn't need to shape for shape match the bottom case of the laptop. it's really tall because of the wrist rests and doesn't even have a numpad.
How long does it take you guys to buy a thinkpad on ebay? How long do you usually have to wait for?
I've been trying to get an affordable x series tablet for around $200 and it takes forever. I want an i5 or i7 processor and a laptop that isn't chipped/scratched, so fuck me, right?
Fuck these threads. Just impulse bought a new T430 for $200 total on ebay.
Now I can shit post from bed I guess.
>>52167053
Its the dream
Just sold my shitty "gaming desktop" and now fully using my Thinkpad with GNU+Linux at home with 2 extra monitors.
I'm living the life, happy new years bros.
>>52166281
The old revision sucks and has a lot of flex. The new thinkpad keyboard is built better but has a worse layout.
I'd get the new one personally.
>X200
>USD 65
Is this the price of freedom?
>>52167631
That seems like a good deal. I got mine for $35 from my university's surplus store. I am going to libreboot it once my raspberry pi comes in.
>>52166810
Are you me?
I'm in the same position. So many sellers seem to be bait and switch. Providing details that are as vague as possible. Been looking for around 5 days.
>tfw I'm destined to browse eBay searching for thinkpads every single day, but will never own one
>>52168005
are you familiar with the process of flashing?
>>52167631
>tfw got it for that much 5 years ago
the local seller must have been mentally retarded now that I think about it
>have had the money to buy a T420 1080p upgrade board + new screen
>the guy selling them has not responded to the forum thread in months
JUST
>order a T420 from newegg last Saturday.
>it won't be here until Tuesday.
JUST
>>52166281
I'd like one as I run separate numpads and have a mouse on each side of my keyboard to reduce RSI.
>>52168398
Use the psref .pdf I poasted. It helped me do very well off Ebay. I bought various organ donors, mixed and matched parts, kept some, sold some.
Here's the link again. Save it in case I'm killed by a falling BBW or stabbed by a BBC, because it is vital to Pad hunting.
https://www.lenovo.com/psref/pdf/tabook.pdf
>>52170784
but these only include the newer models
How's the support for Linux on the Tblazeit looking?
>>52172232
Can't say about the blazeit but for the T410 I have is perfect. You just need tlp which controls the cpu frequency for your desired energy outputs in both battery and ac mode (gotta disable the built in CPU scaling first with a simple command, read the tlp config in the guy's website).
Trackpad works amazing, unlike in Windows and almost everything works out of the box. At least in Elementary OS.
>>52162715
Yup. Gonna sell probably all of them, save for 3.
Car got stolen last night :s
>>52169496
So many new users because of that post.
I haven't talked to him, I guess coz of holiday or school, he did post on faceboku, so he's alive.
>>52164675
Pretty sure they meant the 3 finger click.
Couple of questions about the x220:
Trackpoint mouse buttons aren't working. I'm currently using the trackpad's mouse with no pointer control and the clitmouse as a combo. Uninstalled and reinstalled the drivers, etc - seems like its a common issue with Windows 7, so I'm curious if anyone else has run into Synaptic PS/2 mouse driver issues in the past.
- I'll be dualbooting with a Linux distro specifically for heavy web development (Ruby, Node, Docker VM, etc) and would like to know which would suit my needs. I've looked at Ubuntu MATE, my father suggested Mint. Any suggestions?
I figure the driver issue would be easier to solve through Linux than Windows, but I could be wrong.
>>52172455
Car stolen on New Year's? Damn dude.
>>52166810
I bought my first x220 last week and received it yesterday. Its in extremely good condition (only issue is a dot on the display that I'll be swapping for an IPS screen anyway) and one busted USB port. I snagged it for just over $120 bucks and its worth every penny, i5 w/ 8GB RAM, 320GB.
>>52172557
Works on my win7 machine. Download the drivers instead of letting windows getting them from you.
>>52172557
I really like MATE DE
I haven't tried Mint myself, should test in VM though
I have no driver issues here, check BIOS to see if that might be it
Also, why not KDE DE?
>>52172557
Yeah, oh well, wanted to get a new car anyways, had it since 2007
Has anyone successfully updated their T430 to FHD 1080p? I'm looking to purchase one of the converter boards (just as soon as I can find one for sale).
>>52172613
Checked the BIOS and its enabled, uninstalled and reinstalled manually, let the PC find the hardware, etc. Not sure what it is. I'll see what I can do once I get into Linux.
>>52172668
Played around with Mint in VM on my main PC, seems alright but honestly...its a little ugly. Feels ridged but that's probably inexperience with the distro talking. I haven't looked into KDE DE, checking it out now.
>>52172669
What kind of car was it? I had my truck stolen about 8 years ago and ended up buying another one that looked exactly like it.
>>52163437
There are just so many things wrong here, I can't take it.
>>52172747
Just a honda civic, 99 2 door
gonna get a prius and put a gahnoo linux sticker
>>52173042
>prius
bless your heart
Does anyone know if that cuck Jessie B Anderson posts here?
>>52173042
Anything but a Prius
Anything
Seriously
Get a fucking RX7 before a Prius
A 96 Ford F150
A 1971 Ford Pinto
Anything but a Prius
Should I get the t420 with the 1600x900 panel or the normal panel?
>>52173570
The one with more pixels
>>52173183
>RX7
Mah Niggah
>>52173670
Rotary or V8 Swap?
>>52157236
How would I go about upgrading the screen on an x201? How much money would I be looking at?
t430 or t420 if theyre similar price
T420 or x220? I only use the computer for excessive web browsing (approx 60 tabs at once), 4chan shitposting, sony vegas/sibelius, and movies
>>52174300
if you want lightweight small screen laptop, X series
A more normal sized laptop, a T420
If you go with a T420, get it with the 1440*900 display
>>52164675
sorry, the TrackPoint buttons
>>52163437
and dear god, look at the keyboard
This is regarding Libreboot but anyone with electronics experience could answer as well
Anyone willing to share some advice regarding flashing SOICs?
My conflict is pic related.
I can't believe this fucking piece of plastic, gold plated wire, and steel clip is ~$30USD.
I paid almost that much for the spi... I actually paid 60USD for my X200 years ago and now I'm going to spend 30USD on a fucking clip! Really would like to avoid that
One alternative is getting a gook version for 5USD but the shipping estimates are 15days+
I rather put the money towards a good soldering kit and learn to use it.
My main question is, how likely is it that I'm going to fuck shit up if I solder the wiring directly to the SOIC instead of using the clip for flashing? How badly could things go, doing soldering on an X200 mainboard?
Should I just get the clip? Should I solder the wiring to the SOIC? Can the SOIC be easily replaced if I fuck up? Can I fuck up my whole mainboard if I can't into proper soldering?
>>52173684
Planning to buy a rotary. V8 swaps aren't really available in my country.
>>52174584
how much is the clip vs the cost of a new mobo
>>52174300
T420 has a better screen (900p) with a bigger screen, which is probably more useful for you since you have a lot of tabs.
AFAIK T420 has a better iGPU
>>52174832
>>52174832
you could get an entire X200 for ~60USD that posts. Even less if you take the time to look. The fucking clip is about 30USD. Could you really fuck up the entire mobo with one bad solder job? If it's relatively low risk I'll just get a kit, practice with it a little, and then try on the mobo.
i was about to pull the trigger on a X220 cause i needed a laptop for cheap when suddenly i received (for free) an SL510
now i can't use it, i still have to format it, what should i expect?
the outside looks good
>>52174989
>SL510
It looks like garbage...
Why can't you use it?
Just ordered an i7 off arrowdirect for $300.
How badly did I fuck up.
>>52174933
http://www.ebay.com/itm/SOP16-SOIC16-Flash-Chip-Test-Clips-BIOS-Programming-Adapter-/171644526750?hash=item27f6cfa09e:g:h-IAAOSw1ZBUuRjX
why is the clip 30 bucks
Is It worth it to just go to cragslist?
Newegg.com has some deals, give or take. Anybody use them?
>>52175161
cause it's password protected and i have to format it
>inb4 jamal
i dindu noffin officer
>>52175189
I got my T420 off of craigslist. I happened to meet someone on there who knows about these things and lives buying and reselling retired business laptops
>>52174989
Only slightly better than average consumer machines. Keyboard is still nice though.
>>52175206
No Computrace or BIOS passwords, right?
If you're gonna reinstall, I recommend Ubuntu MATE. It's actually pretty fucking good
>>52175225
no bios passwords, what's computrace?
i'd like to use linux but i need windows cause muh adobe, my last laptop (shitty HP) was a nightmare with linux drivers, everything stopped working after wake from sleep, lenovos are supposed to be better right?
>>52175189
>Newegg
>deals
Not for thinkpads they're not. Ebay is still the best place to buy.
>>52175254
whatever it is i just disabled it permanently
>>52175182
I did mention in the earlier post that I had the 5USD China option. I just hate waiting. Guess I should stop being an impatient retard.
The documentation said that other clips might not be as reliable but that is such an abstract statement. I don't think the mechanism of these clips are so complex as to make one more reliable than the other.
Link is what they recommend
http://www.ebay.com/itm/POMONA-5252-TEST-CLIP-16POS-/181939916098?hash=item2a5c76cd42:g:kzMAAOSwxN5WUp67
>>52175254
>>52175290
Good. That shit is bad juju. Bane of Thinkpads everywhere
If Windows, use Win7
If rice, Placebo theme
>>52173042
get an old CRX HF.
>dat 41 city/49 highway mpg
fuck a Prius
>>52175329
ClearScreen Sharp > Placebo
>>52175400
Placebo Ashtray, specifically
>>52175329
>>52175400
sry guys, i'm not that autistic, just a bit less
windows 10 cause i have nothing to hide (on my computer) i just use it to work
P70
Xeon, 64GB ECC, 2xNVMe+SATA, pantone calibration
>>52175454
>I have nothing to hide
You are what's wrong with the world
>>52175489
probably but i don't care, i want to use the world i'm given not try to destroy it.
>>52175573
No need to destroy it. Just stick with Win7. It runs better, it's cleaner, and can be riced a little nicer. And it doesn't rape you so hard for datamining. And it doesn't require you to have a M$ account.
So I bought my X220 near the end of August 2015. The HDD (320Gb WD scorpio blue) at that time had about 2000 load cycles. Right now, it is at 72000.
70 thousand fucking load cycles in four months of light use as a secondary computer. What the fuck happened? How can I stop it from happening?
Currently using a ThinkPad T61 w/ T7300, 3GB RAM and 128GB SSD.
I want to try linux again but I'm not sure which distro would be best. I've tried Ubuntu but it felt quite slow.
I'm considering a eGPU for my X220. Anyone here have any experiences with it?
From my research, it has some problems with some memory configurations.
>>52175895
Mint XFCE or MATE.
>>52175483
>the only thinkpad with an optical drive this year
Fuck it
The t460p better have one so when I get a new laptop in 2 years I can get that
>>52175895
Ubuntu gnome
Use the gnome classic session
My X200's keyboard is fucking up. Can I replace it with a keyboard from an X31?
I'm tired of Win10 problems with my T420, what linux should I install? I've used linux a lot, but mostly through putty on servers and raspberry pi
>>52174989
hey it's this anon again
i installed windows 10, no drivers asked but i'm wondering how am i supposed to scroll with the integrated trackpad? there is this big central button on it with its points and i don't know how to use it, the driver's page on the lenovo's website is a mess
>>52177063
also, the keyboard feels good but /g/uys, the layout is completely fucked up. i fell for the meme
>i haven't payed for this
probably i'd start to like it but right now i don't
>>52169081
I am going to follow a guide, it seems fairly straightforward, and I have everything but the pi.
https://github.com/bibanon/Coreboot-ThinkPads/wiki/X200-X201-Hardware-Flashing-with-Raspeberry-Pi
>>52175308
I got the pomona one, and it clips on well, but I have not used it yet. Maybe I will get the other clip too to compare them and report to /tpg/.
>>52172586
Where did you buy it? How did you get it?
>>52177119
How is the layout fucked up? I have one and it feels like a normal layout to me.
>>52177344
>ctrl and fn swapped
going to change at the next reboot
>pag+/- separated from end
>delete not in the corner
>enormous caps lock, can be confused with the A when typing
it's a mess
Just bought one of these bad boys. Only the master race of laptops can say "fuck the disk tray" and put another hard drive instead.
>>52177733
>Only the master race of laptops can
Thats actually not true.
>>52177406
here i am again, this shit it's ridiculous. audio from the speakers clips BUT it's not a problem of old speakers or bad amp, no, it's a SOFTWARE PROBLEMS. at any volume level it always distorts the sound in the same way. even after installing a proper driver.
>>52174584
just buy a chink one and take a deep breath holy shit
you sound pretty dumb/inexperienced so I don't think you're up to the task of soldering directly to a SOIC on a populated mobo
>>52175895
Lubuntu is pretty nice. Works fine on my T60
Ubuntu Unity has that awful transparency everywhere that kills performance and battery life on old machines.
>>52157990
Shit son you got jewed good. You can easily get x220 for $150
I made a thread last night about how I bought the 12.1" X201i for absolutely dirt cheap
everyone gave advice and I'm putting Linux Mint on it once I get an SSD
my question is:
how do you upgrade RAM in these things? never done it for a laptop. what kind do you need?
PS this laptop is incredibly cute somehow.
post boot times
pic related on my T420
>>52178492
It was an x220t. I know I paid more because I was impatient but, it was in immaculate condition except for the unmentioned screen damage and with a new Intel SSD. I already returned it.
>>52177183
Interesting. I will get the Chink one and report on it as well (once it arrives half a month from now ;_;)
>>52157236
Is it a bad idea to install Arch on my Thinkpad a22p? It has a Pentium III and 387MB of ram.
>>52177999
But only master race laptops can hotswap between ODD, HDD or battery.
>>52178845
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DqvweTYTI0
I want a reasonably modern thinkpad (not workstation, preferably T series) with haslel (or newer) that doesn't have a garbage undervolted slow ass chip.
Is there such a thing?
I can choose between a T420 with i7 processor, and Elitebook 8440p
which should I choose?
>>52179335
T440p/T540p
looking for a laptop that is small (like 13 inches or smaller), with great battery life (8+ hours solid use), and cheap. should I just a netbook? and if so which one? I want it to able to play hd video.
>>52158522
that is beautiful. how does it look so new?
>fully functioning
>no hdd no ram
literally every ebay post
>>52180586
There is not contradiction there.
>>52180693
*no
>>52180586
Kek, this is the truth.
>>52157236
What's good for moderate gaming and can be able to get stuff done
>>52157600
Yup. Hate the fan revving up every time I dock it
>>52157236
Want to upgrade from an X220 i5 2540m to a **20 i7 2640m machine. Questions. 1. Will there be a noticeable performance improvement? 2. Will there be a noticeable increase in heat produced? 3. It's the weight difference between T420 and X220 serious enough to make portability an issue? 4. Is T420 cooler? Especially connected to the doc. 5. Any specific advantages of T over X besides the screen size?
>>52181202
1. Not really unless you're doing shit that requires high performance, like video encoding or whatever. In that case, what the fuck are you doing it on a laptop for?
2. Yes, the i7 models are said to significantly increase the heat produced, especially in the X220 which runs pretty hot as-is.
3. I've got a T420 and X220 and while there is a significant difference in weight, it's not bad at all since I'm not a little bitch.
4. Overall, yes. Lot more mass and space to dissipate the heat into compared to the X220, which is tiny.
5. Ultrabay, ability to get a 1600x900 screen (or even up to 2560x1440 if you're adventurous with modding). Not much else honestly.
Keep in mind though that the color reproduction on stock T420 screens is fucking ASS, even to me, and I'm not a graphic designer or do anything that requires correct coloring. It just looks fucking awful. It can be fixed a bit by color profiles though.
>>52180586
>title says 4GB
>product description says 2GB
>>52181359
>>52181202
As an owner of an i7 2620M X220 for four years now I'd say stay away. It runs incredibly hot. 1080p chinese cartoons send it to maybe 70-80 degrees. Ultrabase makes it worse. 97 degrees is not uncommon when sharing screen over Skype.
To be fair I live in a very hot climate but my X61s never goes above 70 in these conditions.
Disabling hyperthreading in the BIOS reduces temperatures by a fair bit and boosts battery life but if you're already crippling performance this way why the fuck would you go for an i7?
The only thing the i7 X220s have going for them is USB3.0 but there are always Expresscard modules.
well i did it /tpg/. i bought a memepad. i'll be in buyers remorse general if you need me.
>>52181834
what did you buy? how much?
>>52157236
My T420 display hinges has a lot of play. I want to tighten the screws that hold them, but I don't have any guide. Anyone have a video or documentation?
Yoh /tpg/ did you check this beauty?
The "SensePoint" (Asus call it like this) intrigue me a lot.
>ASUS BU201
>>52182688
Physically it doesn't look bad. Not sure how it will withstand the test of time
Should I pull the trigger on this senpai?
http://m.ebay.ca/itm/ThinkPad-Laptop-with-Docking-Station-T-Series-T420-Intel-Core-i5-2520M-2-50-GHz-/201461913122?nav=SEARCH
>250GB SSD
>8GB RAM
Tell me why the T450s isn't the greatest Thinkpad of all time.
[spoiler]You can't[/spoiler]
>>52158730
Why are you here if you're underage?
>>52183685
>Too big
I don't like to travel with a factory in my bag.
>>52181328
How does one shove super high resolution panel into t420
>>52183544
Buy it
What is the Thinkpad with the highest performance right now?
Or any Lenovo that is sturdy
>>52184162
Only thing stopping me is the screen, how bad is it really ?
Babby's first Thinkpad X250.
I've never been big into laptops but I love this so far. Going to be only for work and uni. It feels great.
>>52184676
I worked with one of those at work. I liked it, but I still like the feel of the keyboard on my x200 better. Also, I wish that Lenovo would have kept using 16:10 screens. It is sad that Apple is one of the few companies still using 16:10 for laptops.
>>52184141
read this (yeah its leddit but its still a good source)
https://www.reddit.com/r/thinkpad/comments/3c6q3t/51nb_does_it_again_t420s_with_a_2560x1440_ips/
https://www.reddit.com/r/thinkpad/comments/3hjlbu/so_i_did_the_t420_fhd_ips_mod_and_its_glorious/
>>52184472
I think the screen is fine. I have one. No issues
I'm thinking of getting a t420. But I could save up a bit more and bump my budget to 300 or so.
It'd be my only pc atm. I'm just worried about some gaming and 1080p movie watching.
>>52185783
just get one with a 1600x900 monitor then, Close enough to 1080 for movies.
