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I made the switch
Not easy. Nothing worked.
Got it working. Installed gnome... Looks shit. How do i make arch pretty /g
>>52155168
uninstall gnome
uninstall arch
install gentoo
You switch back to windows ;^)
Use KDE Plasma or i3
I wanted to move away from windows (on my laptop). Gayman PC will stay with windows 10. Everyone raves about Arch thought ill give it a try.
Pacman -S i3-wm its happening now... Now what
>>52155168
configure your font rendering (which most of the hipster converts forget)
>>52155279
Uninstall i3 because it's for advanced users. Install openbox
post screenshots and explain why you think it looks like shit
Massive buttons, fucking loads of bloatware games. have uninstalled a few. want a clean environment, I see some Arch screenshots on here. i want to know how they get pretty and clean, this gnome shit is bulky. i try running openbox and it just closes the terminal window.
>>52155426
Your installed GNOME. That's your problem.
For a true Arch experience install awesome. For a realistic Arch experience install Xfce. And purge your system of that GNOME malware asap.
Thank you for your suggestion, i didnt know Gnome was this shit. I want my UI to look something like this...
>>52155426
You can't tell me a basic Arch install with just GNOME had all this shit already on there.
The "clean" Arch installs you see in desktop threads usually run a window manager like i3, awesome or even openbox and show off a riced firefox and random terminal applications.
>>52155460
use KDE plasma 5, openbox or XFCE
or Mate
>>52155460
You can replicate that with Xfce.
>>52155460
seems your problem is with gnome app launcher
>>52155460
That *is* GNOME. It's just themed and has a dock.
Just noticed that, im a complete scrub, attempting to make the switch. Going to install awsome.. just need to find a way to remove knome.
>>52155528
literallysudo pacman -R gnome
Do it from a tty, not from within GNOME.
>>52155528
sudo pacman -Rns gnome
>>52155528
sudo pacman -Rcs gnome
Be prepared that awesome will be basically 'unusable' for you at first since you are used to a different paradigm. You'll want to set your own hotkeys and such. Just keep calm and don't be trolled here or you'll end up rage quitting Linux altogether.
>>52155168
install gnome tweak tool,
install a proper icon theme like flattr,
install a proper gtk theme. many available from AUR. numix is standard but good-looking shit
install the 'user themes' gnome extension.
install gnome-elegance-colors from AUR
np thank me later m888
>>52155580
Thank you. This is what I'm trying to do but the switch with little knowledge can be difficult. How can I bring up tty and not terminal with GNOME?
>>52155630
Ctrl + Alt + F2
>>52155630
Not to worry uninstalled now. Now to install awesome
>>52155580
I have uninstalled gnome and installed awesome. Now how do I run it and get a GUI going?
>>52155630
You have several ttys and you bring them up using
Ctrl + Alt + F1-7
Typically your display manager starts X (your graphical session) on tty7, but if you start X manually by typing 'startx' in tty, your session will start on the tty you typed this on.
What you want to do is switch to a tty where X is not running, so pick whichever is applicable here.
>>52155692
You can either start it from your display manager by choosing the awesome session or you can edit your ~/.xinitrc to have
exec awesome
Then awesome will start when yoou type startx from your user.
Also check out the wiki page:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Awesome
Arch is very well documented.
>>52155692
If you did it the right way when you installed GNOME, just add `exec awesome` to your .xinitrc and then run `startx`.
>>52155728
It appears I don't have a display manager running. Ffs I'm so shit with this
>>52155754
That's fine. You don't need one to do this.
Just log in your user at the tty and open the file .xinitrc in your home folder.
If you're familiar with vi just type
vi ~/.xinitrc
otherwise you might want to install nano
pacman -S nano
In that case do
nano ~/.xinitrc
add the line:
exec awesome
and save the file.
Then type startx
>>52155168
I can't help you with Gnome, but I can help you with XFCE if you aren't set on gnome.
I installed xfce4 and xfce4-extra. I installed Faenza for icons and I'm using the Menda theme. I installed the LTS kernel because the newest kernel has a few gotcha bugs on virtualization.
I plan to do GPU passthrough and eliminate virtualbox for a window install, but that's something that will take me a while.
Anyways, last thing to do is to replace the application menu on the bottom bar with whiskermenu. It's part of xfce4-extra.
>>52155754
You shouldn't have a DM with Arch anyway, it's built so you don't need one and it usually makes things harder to change later.
>>52155810
>vi
>nano
>not emacs
Ian Murdock yourself
>>52155810
I'm within my home directory /home/lux. And this file does not exist. Will I need to make it? Or have k missed an instillation
>>52155441
>>52155492
xfce4 is broken to hell...
whats objectively the prettiest desktop environment?
>>52155880
How so? I've had no issues using it.
>>52155868
You should create it if it does not exist.
touch ~/.xinitrc
>>52155861
Well, vi is installed by default and nano is easier to use for newcomers. Also: editor wars? Really?
>>52155868
If it doesn't exist you can just create it. X will figure the rest out.
>>52155816
FIX YOUR FUCKING FONT RENDERING YOU PLEB
>>52155168
>>52155893
I am using it right now, in this broken state.
>click make new folder on desktop=error
>rename file in thunar, press enter; it closes?!?
>gave up on setting up file sharing with thunar and use ftp instead
>ntfs support in thunar shitty
>smartphone browsing support shitty
I'm a big fan of minimalist desktops. Love the shortcut customization options. Maybe I just fucked the install up.
>>52155953
>>click make folder on desktop=error
Works on my machine.
>>rename file in thunar, press enter; it closes?!?
Works on my machine, also this sounds like a problem with Thunar, not Xfce.
>>gave up on setting up file sharing with thunar and use ftp instead
Sounds like you just don't like Thunar.
>>ntfs support in thunar shitty
Again, that's Thunar. If you don't like it just install Dolphin or something.
>>smartphone browsing support shitty
This is one of the things that I actually really like about Xfce - it's automount utility is almost flawless.
>>52155168
install tweak tool
change fonts
change theme
enable shell theme extension
change shell theme
install and enable dash to dock
change wallpapers
I think that's about it. I use gnome because it's the best wayland desktop available.
>>52155909
Created the file. Then startx command not found.?..
>>52155917
Sure, give me a tip on how to fix it.
>>52155168
Just come back to Windows, come home windows man ;)
>>52155974
install xorg-xinit
>>52155974
Do you have xorg-server and xorg-xinit installed? You'll need both of these and the proper xf86-video-yourgpubrand package (for example xf86-video-intel).
>>52155953
Yeah, sorry to say this, but it seems like you fucked up somewhere.
Also thunar has nothing to do with ntfs support. You have problems with the backend.
If you want smartphone stuff, you might want to install gvfs-mtp.
>>52155168
by installing Deepin
(there's a manjaro version if you still want it to be based on arch and not debian)
>>52155357
Who is this semen demon?
>>52155189
>using smiley with carat nose
>>52155991
Thank you. Done that now. What next should startx work now?
>>52155967
Automount is great indeed.
>>52156004
Exactly.
I might just ditch thunar tho. Ranger seems ok.
>>52155168
ok here is a serious answer. First make sure you have the gnome tweak tool installed. Then install the arc gtk theme(it comes in 3 versions: dark,darker and normal). Then papirus icon theme(install only the icon theme when it asks you in the terminal otherwise you will pull kde as a dependency). Change your themes in the gnome settings( if you want to change the gnome-shell ie. the panel and more stuff you have to enable the user-themes extension).While still in the gnome-tweak-tool window change fonts and window buttons.(enable minimize and maximize)
After that download and install some extensions from the gnome website which you deem useful. I for one use archlinux update indicator,media player indicator,topicons,impatience and dynamic panel transparency.
Btw you dont need gnome for that.
Don't forget to remove most of the gnome bloat(games,maps. photo organizer/gnome-photos and document organizer/gnome-documents.
>>52156043
Yes. It provides startx
>>52156072
Thank you. Its working now. I have Twp windows for terminals. What further steps can I do to create a clean GUI?
>>52155168
or you can use xfce(no good gtk3 support), mate(experimental gtk3 support) or cinnamon(good gtk3 support).
Or use bloated kde. try some stuff out and dont forget to yaourt -Qdt and removing old configs after uninstalling DE's
>>52156035
This. I'd like to motorboat dat ass for a weekend.
>>52156092
I'm not the same guy as you were initially talking to, but you'll want to edit your .xinitrc file.cp /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc ~/.xinitrc
Then edit it to remove the twm and the clock and the other shit, and add "exec yourwindowmanagerhere" to start your wm and anything else you want to have.
>>52156097
>Calling KDE bloated while:
>recommending Cinnamon and
>presenting gtk3 as a good thing
This anon is beyond saving.
>>52155168
install gnome tweak tool
install numix icon
install infinality
profit
>>52156143
Im not saying gtk3 is a plus but for a newb it's a good thing to have gtk3 support or he will have to actively search for gtk2 stuff.
And kde is bloated(not like that's a very bad thing). I honestly like it but the idle performance difference is huge.
should've installed manjaro
basically arch + working de
>>52156192
ebin meme sir
>>52156192
See my picture at >>52155816
It's not Manjaro, it's just pure Arch.
>>52155279
Get yaourt and switch out i3 with i3-gaps. Get Compton.
>>52155623
this
>>52156189
Just made screenshots of two of my VMs.
Not sure why you think KDE is more bloated than Cinnamon. Cinnamon uses more RAM and because of GTK3 there's an army of dbus services keeping the CPU nice and busy.
You guys I'm trying to install arch and I can't connect to the internet. The cads don't work wtf
>>52156472
Post ip a plox
and not sideways this time
>>52156472
That's because you aren't in arch. You are in the grub rescue shell because you didn't correctly setup your system or bootloader.
I don't mean to sound like an ass, I just don't know the one simple command to fix it. Pointing you in the right direction.
>>52156472
*commands
>>52156504
dude at no point in that post did you sound like an ass
>>52156472
Basically what >>52156504 said.
You'll have to boot into the live system again, chroot into your installation and set up your bootloader and maybe fstab correctly.
ok thanks
>>52156629
uh anon you might be retarded
>>52156629
LPT: plox means please
LPT: you question has already been addresssed in >>52156504 and >>52156594
>>52155168sudo rm -rf --nopreserve-root
sudo apt install xubuntu-desktop
>>52155168
>he fell for the Arch Linux meme
Dude I installed it for shits and giggles several times just to see what the fuss was all about.
pacman -S any package and it says not found. Fucking Ubuntu has more software available in its default PPA's than this piece of shit. I think it had something to do with adding unofficial repos who gives a fuck.
In the end Arch used the same amount of ram as my Xubuntu install, only difference, less packages which cancels out when you see that it is missing critical working features in the settings panel.
Just install any Ubuntu derivative and save yourself the heartache.
>>52156832
>nopreserve
>apt
Ian Murdock yourself
>>52156941
>ubuntu has more packages than arch
nice meme
>>52156941
Probably because you were too retarded to -Syu to update the cached package list.
>>52156975
I did that. I did all the shenanigans listed in the wiki and video guides. It came down to the last part of adding unofficial repos which I didn't understand.
I used syslinux instead of grub which made life very easy, grub is a piece of shit.
>>52156993
Really? Grub only needs you to, unless using EFI, dopacman -S grub
grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg
grub-install --recheck /dev/sda
Also, you should never have to setup an unofficial repo. You probably followed a guide by someone who wasn't doing things right.
>>52157044
I was testing it on a VM, for some reason when I didgrub-install /dev/sda, it kept throwing errors regarding bios boot partition, the wiki said create a 1mb bios boot partition alongside root and swap.
the other way wasgurb-install /dev/sda --forcewhich worked eventually but I ran into another issue as .xinitrc was not created in my root partition and I had to manually load X each session.
>>52157099
I've gotten that on a VM, and that's actually not because you need to make a boot partition. You need to leave 1MB of space before the first partition.
Depending on the partitioner you use, it will already do this. Some won't though. It was warning you because there wasn't room for the bootcode (well there is but it is being cautious).
xinitrc isn't created on it's own, it's located in /etc/xinit/xinitrc and you have to do >>52156126 to get it into your home directory, else it uses the default.
You are definitely right that arch is more work to setup. But if you don't go adding custom repos or doing stupid things, it definitely is easier to maintain than Ubuntu when something *breaks* later on.
>>52157144
And to followup on the GRUB issue, it's actually more proper to specify the entire set of arguments.grub-install --target=i386-pc --recheck /dev/sda
There's a couple other flags you can pass too, in case it can't guess them, but it is much better nowadays than it used to be. I too used syslinux for the longest time until I learned how grub2 stopped sucking. In the past it was a shit.
>>52157161
Furthermore, just as a sidenote!
Start using UUIDs in your fstab and you'll avoid lots of problems in multi drive systems.genfstab -Uwill use UUIDs instead of sdx format.
>>52157144
>>52157161
After several trial and error runs, I have created a step by step personal guide for my hardware setup. 95% of the installation will be done without any issues in 10-15 mins. The only issue I am facing is when I install xfce desktop, it doesn't start by itself. I get taken to shell and login to my account. Then startx or startxfce4 to get into my desktop.
The xfce desktop was barren, it looked nothing like my xubuntu desktop, no power manager and network manager in the settings. It was kind of disappointing in the end.
for now I am on xubuntu and looking at more videos to see where I made a mistake.
>>52157261
You have to install all that. Arch isn't Noobuntu or Memebian. If you want something somewhere, you have to put it there.
>>52155183
/thread
>>52157261
You then want a login manager. GDM is the gnome one. I don't use a login manager because I don't mind typing startxfce4, but I've tried a few. GDM is the easiest.
You may also then need to install a greeter (a theme) or it will not work.
Then enable the gdm service via systemd or whatever you've used.
>>52157261
>>52157329
And to clarify, GDM works with XFCE! Just make sure it's not actually pulling "gnome-shell" as a dependency or anything. It shouldn't, but just watch to be sure.
>>52157345
FDM is better tho
>>52155197
Those are two very different things for very different people
>>52157345
Oh? The guide I was following told me to install lightdm and a greeter package I think.
>>52157378
That's fine! Lightdm also works. It serves the same purpose.
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Display_manager here are your choices, lightdm + greeter works fine. I've used CDM before too, login via console then it starts the x session.
>>52155168
I knew someday someone would fall for this meme..
What have you done, /g/ ?!
>>52157421
As you'll notice, a few people in this thread have been asking questions and getting help, and making significant progress towards a usable, good looking DE.
>>52157421
Installing Arch isn't that complicated if you have a video guide showing you the steps. I referenced about 5 different guides to note the similarities in steps.
In my first attempt, I managed to install it easily within 20 mins. The wiki is quite complex for beginners though.
>>52157486
did you check the regular install guide or beginner guide in the wiki?
i think the beginner guide is very good and easy to understand
>>52155168
xfce and turn the transparency up, my little pupper
>>52155207
Try zorin OS or
>install gentoo
http://zorinos.com
http://installgentoo.com
>>52155324
>i3 is for advanced users
that's exactly why you need to use i3 to gain any respect in the desktop thread
>>52156972
Debian has 43000 packages in the default repos, so ubango has the same.
Arch has 13000.
New GNU/Linux users shouldn't use a user centric distro like arch. How are they supposed to choose software? This defies the whole idea of user centrism.
>>52160568
The AUR has over 100000 packages, and that's only in the main AUR, not including those weird 'user repositories' that sometimes show up. I mean Infinality alone is fucking MASSIVE for a repository.
>>52155168
>he fell for the meme
>>52161290
AUR is the weird user repository you are talking about.
>>52161394
Nope.
>>52161400
AUR stands for arch user repository. Read the wiki.
>>52161420
Are you seriously so blind that you can't read that I was talking about two different things?
I know what the AUR is. I wasn't referring to the AUR, I was referring to the other user repositories that function similar to PPAs on Ubuntu.
>>52161447
The aur is the equivalent to ppa.
>>52161685
You should make yourself equivalent to Ian Murdock and go kill yourself.
>>52161693
There are only 2 things: the official repo and user repos. Aur and ppa are the user repos. It shouldn't be necessary to use a user repo.
>>52161740
>There are only 2 things: the official repo and user repos
This is true on Ubuntu.
This is not true on Arch.
>>52161755
So what's the difference between the user repository and the weird user repository?
>>52161782
THE user repository, i.e. the AUR, is a singular user repository maintained by Arch itself. Hence the name.
There are other user repositories (note: plural) that are not maintained by Arch and that are wholly separate from the AUR.
And there's hundreds of them.
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Unofficial_user_repositories
What DE is this?
>>52161926
it literally says XFCE in the screenshot
>>52161926
AYY
>>52156035
>>52156122
https://i.instagram.com/emilysears/
>>52163085
Tell me how to get ur desktop
>>52165045
By adding a side panel, making both the panels transparent, and installing a decent icon theme.
