How is Arch Linux so light on RAM with a DE like Cinnamon? Only 770MiB and running Steam and Firefox. I've switched from Windows 10, and that bloated piece of spyware would hover around 2700MiB at idle.
Is all that RAM usage in Windows just for their botnet?
>>52154855
probly botnet and other bloat services
Windows 10 still uses code from the Windows NT days. It's shit.
RAM usage on arch is low because it's usually a minimal installation.
An "out of the box distro" installation usually tries to be usable for the majority of population, so it starts up software that you on your arch installation will never use so it's not even installed.
stuff like avahi, firewalld (which are useless on a desktop, but not having them on a laptop would be fucking annoying) cups server to name a few.
Windows is bloated.
If you ever wondered why Vista was trashed by the average consumer is because fresh installation of XP after a cold boot used ~130MB of RAM, and the same in Vista took ~700MB. It was a huge difference at the time and for many people is now.
Also Window's task manager does count cache in "RAM usage".
Something that your meme-scripts (like screenfetch) don't.
run free -h to see your RAM usage and cache.
>>52154855
win10 uses less than a gig here but it crashes often so i just stay on my linux partition
$ free -h
total used free shared buff/cache available
Mem: 1.9G 1.2G 102M 287M 679M 448M
Swap: 1.0G 182M 841M$ uptime
16:40:43 up 8 days, 2:42, 1 user, load average: 0.34, 0.64, 0.67
chrome and mozilla fagget
>>52155251
dang your install is bloated brofree -h && uptime
total used free shared buff/cache available
Mem: 2.0G 479M 33M 380K 1.5G 1.4G
Swap: 2.0G 172M 1.8G
15:52:59 up 16 days, 4:52, 2 users, load average: 1.03, 0.87, 1.08
Unused RAM is wasted RAM.
>>52155424
Using RAM on software you never use or never want to use is also a waste.
>>52154855
>770MiB
Disgusting.
I got Arch down to 388MB using Awesome. Nowadays it's around 650ish because I installed Xfce and Compton on top of Awesome but still.
>>52155435
Are you mentally challenged?
>>52155435
my friend's win10 used ~4gb with nothing open
>>52155450
hurr durr 100-300m difference for a proper DE is too much
>>52155482
Awesome + Xfce is far more proper than Cinnamon will ever be. And apparently still more lightweight.
>>52154855
dat background picture
>>52155501
if thats what u think
regardless, i dont see how 770m is disgusting
>>52155470
I'm intelligent, but mentally challenge in terms of mentally ill, why do you ask?
>>52155552
What's disgusting is using 770M and then claiming to have low RAM usage.
>>52154855
Sauce on the background?
Is there a Task Manager for Windows that is more informative? Native one says that system uses 1.5GB of RAM but values don't add up.
>>52154855
>>52155524
elisha cuthbert ?
>dat pmk 13 yr old boner
>>52155564
well he is comparing to windows
arch+cinnamon 670 only firefox is running
>linux master race
>>52154855
>Only 770MiB
My arch runs at sub 200MB
>>52155132
No, it doesn't. Otherwise RAM usage would always be nearly 95% or so.
>>52155091
Because it doesn't need to change, you fucking tool.
The bulk of the Linux kernel hasn't changed since 1991.
>>52154855
Win 10 will hold a scalable portion of the available RAM for OS task:, Searching and indexing, keeping things like thumbnails and icons in cache.
On my 16GB system Win 10 holds almost 5GB.
>>52155132
nothing changes bro
>>52155727
The bulk of the Linux kernel didn't exist in 1991, retard.
>>52155747
>Searching and indexing
All that because the directory layout and installed programs are unstructured and NTFS is fundamentally broken. Good times.
>>52154855
Windows 10 is just garbage and beta quality software at best.
MS rushed it out a year too soon.
>>52155764
Whatever, Linux still uses the same 11 000 lines of code from 1991, and the same 300 000 from 1995, and so on.
Don't be autistic.
>>52155829
Have you seen Linux's changelog?
Practically every line of code gets changed every decade. It's CONSTANTLY being updated and fixed and shit.
>>52155091
>Windows 10 still uses code from the Windows NT days.
So? Of course there are a lot of reasons to drop the legacy code but none of them means it's bad.
>>52155091
Are you actually retarded?
Windows NT is still the kernel for all modern Windows operating systems. Obviously they're still going to use code for their kernel in their kernel.
>>52154855
>3DPD wallpaper
>hasn't removed Pocket and Hello from Firefox
Absolutely disgusting.
>>52155760
you dum?
>>52154855
who dat?
>>52155424
nice meme :^)
>windows
>yes
>>52156337
>chromium
nice meme
>>52155698
please adjust your disgusting fonts
>>52156337
>5639%
seems legit
>>52156531
>furry degenerate
>>52156764
>willing botnet participant
>>52155432
you can alwayssync && echo 3 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches
>>52154855
>Meme OS
>Baby DE
>800MB of RAM and he thinks it's "light"
Back to le reddit you master haxx0r
>>52156531
>all that blank space
#triggered
>>52158618
My machine won't boot anymore. Thanks, asshole.
>>52155501
>Having to use two DE components to compete with Cinnamon
heh, try using a PROPER DE, not some timesink garbage.
>>52159331
you're welcome faggot
>>52159341
Xfce is a proper DE.
Cinnamon, like Xfce, is just a DE. A DE cannot function without a WM. That you think it does shows you how stupid you are for using Cinnamon.
GNOME is best DE!
>>52155741
>Look mum I posted it again
or
>I've never used Arch and therefore cannot have a proper opinion of it
I'd normally choose one but you're a humongous faggot and deserve both
>>52155524
>>52155588
>>52156135
Isabella C met art
>>52158706
>>Baby DE
The only pretentious h4x0r I see ITT is you
>>52159717
Do you have problems with communicating to people? A WM is one of the things that a DE consists of. You are using Awesome window manager instead of Xfwm. You are not using Xfce components exclusively. Xfwm has screen tearing issues and you have to enable an alternative composite manager.
Xfce is highly modular but it requires time to make it usable. That's why I said it it a timesink DE.
Furthermore you assumed I use Cinnamon and called me a stupid. How ironic.
Cinnamon has some issues itself but fixing them wont take much time. It's still faster than KDE and has more visual aesthetics than MATE/Xfce by default.
Now unless you can present proper counter arguments on the time factor, move along.
>>52164986
is a* timesink DE
>>52154855
Most DE "pre"-load services like CUPS and other shit you didn't ask for
>>52154855
>Only 770MiB
>>52165084
Post your best awoo
>>52155747
Funny, in my 8GB system Windows 10 only hold about 2GB
>>52165104
I can't pick a best one.
>>52165084
No programs running, and using free -h for more accurate results:
Only 600MiB, post what you get with no DE and just a WM like i3.
>>52165569
link to wallpaper?
>>52165638
http://i.imgur.com/T6vRdbJ.jpg
>>52165737
>>52165569
>>52165737
>elisha cuthbert
Thanks my nigger.
>>52165830
>generic white chick
>thinks its elisha cuthbert
Proof that fame is all that matters for how attractive these people seem.
>>52154855
My windows 10 idles between 800-900mb ram.
Open up a few chrome tabs with YouTube pushes that up to around 1.2gb-1.4gb usually.
Have you tried debloating windows?
>that herpes outbreak around her knee
gross
>>52164986
>A WM is one of the things that a DE consists of.
cinnamonfags actually believe this
>>52165940
fag
>>52154855
X120e with chromium and mail client open, daily reminding having more cores isn't always a good thing(god this thing is slow)
>>52166185
It's when you're not using some shitty mobile cpu
>>52165830
Ukrainian, Isabella C
>>52165737
>http://i.imgur.com/T6vRdbJ.jpg
doesn't look sexy enough without an OS
>>52165737
Hnngh
is it just me or has arch been incredibly stable ever since they switched to systemd?
since the switch i never had pacman(yaourt) shit up any configs or files and never had any critical issues that stopped my from operating arch.
i only had to reinstall once and that only because i made an error in a filepath in a config causing some shit to be deleted .
>>52166124
End yourself, lifeless ricefag
>>52164986
R E K T
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>>52167971
>has 6GB ram
>doesn't want to use more than 0.3GB
>>52167999
It's good, that means I don't need to upgrade in the future. Even 4gb would be enough for this laptop. In the end I did not compromise on packages or aesthetics, the distro is fully functional.
>>52167971
Both of them have firefox opened for quite a while though
>>52165929
advice on debloating w10.
where to start, i feel like i should nuke the damn os
>>52168102
Start by erasing your HDD and throwing your PC away.
>>52168102
Start by installing Gentoo.
