32c3 discussion - 4th and last day
old thread >>52120455
streams: http://streaming.media.ccc.de/32c3/
today's plan: http://fahrplan.top/congress/2015/Fahrplan/schedule/3.html
first for DEFCON
>>52137404
404 confirms DEFCON is a lost cause.
>>52137399
second for alison macrina from tor.
>>52137431
defcon is for the children, blackhat is where the pros go.
>>52137404
Wouldn't PHD be better event due drunker Russian hackers?
http://www.phdays.com/
>>52137451
Blackhat is the ENTREPRISE QUALITY™ defcon.
It's trying so hard to be proffeeshunal, but the talks are just meme filled corporate bullshit with the rare interesting speaker lost in the pile of shit.
>>52137419
Most likely given that all previous breakouts stopped due to the virus killing victims too quickly. I wonder whether epidemiologists or the WHO already published an analysis of the breakout and why it stopped.
>>52137404
call +49402318896576 for maximum stallman
>>52137814
he lives in hamburg?
>>52137826
his spirit is in Hamburg by now
>>52137451
Blackhat is the place where NSA spreads its bullshit.
Afternoon Hall 2 announcer is even cuter than the morning one
Currently watching Breaking Honeypots for Fun and Profit.
Kim jong un is choking a bit
>>52138019
Do tell what it's like... jesus christ LIVE NIGGERS
>>52138007
pics?
No, false alarm, they're black people.
mmmm this gon be gud
>sierra leone is shit
Something we can all agree on
>>52138081
Chinternet?
who is in hall 3
>Open source killed ebola
>Using skype
Many keks
Pretty sure it was the aid work and the properties of the virus that stopped it.
>>52137399
mmm beer in front of the computer is the best
alcoholism not so much but im doing good
>>52138125
what's an open source alternative to skype for video calls?
>>52138136
Uh... shit.
>Tells priest he's going to sierra leone
>priest gives him last rites
"Thanks asshole"
Edgemaster420
>>52138134
Thats not beer
Its some hipster shit called Club Mate
>>52138178
it's the local meme here
muh more healthy energy drink
pretty good tho
/g/ will like this
Nervous stuttering :3
>>52138279
Fritz Kola > Mate
applause.ogg
PENIS
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Botnet Discussion in Hall G soon
>>52138170
HE'S DANCING LIKE THERE'S NO TOMORROW
Bye bye ebola-chan
;_;
No but seriously, good to see that they have some functioning infrastructure in sierra leone now.
>RACISS
What?
>>52138714
RACIST
Anything worth of watch at next? Dubbed "Microsofts Windows 10 Botnet"?
>>52138747
I think it has to be said
kek'd so hard
>>52137967
>>52137481
LOL, Defcon kids talking.
>>52138007
pics pls NSA seized my thinkpad
>>52138770
I actually missed what she said
>>52138763
haha that might be a funny talk.
>>52138763
>"Microsofts Windows 10 Botnet"?
Dis gun be gud
>>52138763
>>52138799
I'm going to watch to see how retarded the speaker is.
>>52138763
I'll be watching windows 10 botnet because it's going to be memeworthy, but I'll catch up on predicting crime and 'sin' later.
My SJW sensors didn't go off for the sin talk so it should be decent.
>>52138779
> we will start with the lady on mic 3
euhm for your information I am a lady!! and it has to be said that your talk is RACIST
probably stormed off after
I'm outta here fuccbois, see you next year!
>>52138825
Just popped in, but this sounds funny.
Care to explain what "sin" talk is about to a pleb?
>>52138830
Kek, gonna make a webm of that when the edited versions come on- with subtitles.
>>52138841
https://events.ccc.de/congress/2015/Fahrplan/schedule/3.html
We're at 17:00 (This is german time)
>>52138838
rollin'
>>52138838
you're missing all the cute announcers, you're list a shit
>>52138830
>Risk life saving millions of africans
>get called racist by an SJW
Lels were had
>>52138838
>alu burka
what where, lighting talk or something?
>>52138851
Ah, I'll be watching the Win10 botnet talk during that time unless I'm being a retard and can't read schedules correctly.
>>52138838
I want a gf!
>>52138861
god damn it
>>52138872
Hacker Jeopardy finale
>>52138871
Why did she think it was racist?
>>52138838
rollin
>>52138866
00 GET
>>52138911
I'm not really sure. My best guess is that it was because the guy wasn't avoiding calling shitty parts of sierra leone shit just because it was african.
>>52138911
she was just projecting
>>52138934
>>52138935
I guess that makes sense.
I fucking love these SJW/radfems, you just need to let them speak to make a fool of themselves.
>>52138911
Brain damage. SJWs are incapable of not seeing racism everywhere. They'd call a white painted room racist if it made them feel better.
>>52138958
It's a good talk, I suggest you catch it on https://media.ccc.de/c/32c3 in a day or two once they have it edited and uploaded.
>>52138838
rollin for perl guy
BOTNET IS STARTING
>>52138838
Rolling for Michelle!
>>52138819
is the talk in fucking german, i can't understand shit.
>>52138995
There's live dub http://streaming.media.ccc.de/32c3/hallg/translated
(de)
Don't forget to watch the translated version!
https://cdn.c3voc.de/s3_translated_hd.webm
>>52138995
call for translation
>>52138995
LEARN GERMAN REAL QUICK MAN ITS STARTING YOU DONT WANNA MISS IT
>>52138965
Why does it have to be white paint? You should have known I was going to be in this room and you should have known and respected my beliefs without my telling you what those are, I demand that you paint this room a different non-offending color but I will refuse to help in any way, you have to do all the work and foot the bill and you better hope you pick a color I have in my mind. No, I won't tell you what color is acceptable, you'll just have to keep offending me until you get it right, it's not my job to educate you shitlord!
>>52138966
I definitely will, I wish I hadn't dropped out of German so I could just listen in instead of these dubbers.
>>52138995
They have a translated link (OP) but the translators don't seem very great.
>>52139004
lel
>>52139001
shit won't load fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck
>crypto zombies
>Is Windows 10 a botnet?
>yes
This guy is a professor by the way
Windows 10 = botnet confirmed
ruedi LIVE
that hesitation when explaining botnet
>you can't prevent the updates
here we go
>>52139011
the dubber seems to be doing a decent job 2bh
>>52137399
that disgusting energy drink with mate taste like cigarette butts in carbonated water
he looks quite gay
crypto ruedi!!
This really is what a typical windows-hating autist looks like. You can tell he will be eating cold noodles alone in his empty apartment tonight.
>>52139042
You don't like Hackerbrause?
>>52139041
It was rocky at first but now that I've heard him going and I've recognized that he's even covering the speaker's errs and uhms.
I take it back, he a gud boi.
>>52139056
haha i think he gets raped by bill gates fat cock.
>>52139056
butthurt win fag confirmed
>Lose control over your hardware and software
>>52139040
>>52139056
POO IN THE LOO
>>52139056
This guy slays more pussy than you ever could.
>>52139056
>Buttblasted Pajeet
>>52139075
Uneducated retard detected.
Male breasts, a Linux user must-have.
>>52139063
I guess it's not exactly easy to translate German to English in real time. Isn't sentence structure very different?
>>52139099
yeah, like english to french.
phd in maths here, 300k per year.
>>52138838
rolling for nadia
>>52139099
Yeah, comparable to dutch.
Real-time translation is always going to be lagged because the translator not only has to translate but also try to keep it true to the speaker's meaning. Sometimes English doesn't have the right word, but a close enough one, and it's the translators job to make it work.
>Zensorinnen und Zensoren
Ayy lmao
>>52139155
camel time
JUST RE DO YOUR GRUB
INCLUDE NTFS-3G
INCLUDE WINDOWS
THAT EASY
B O T N E T
O
T
N
E
T
What laptop /g/?
X60?
The 2nd live translator is pretty bad
>>52139218
yeah :(
>>52139218
REALLY bad
I can't even understand what's being talked about right now. Jesus Christ now he's out of breath.
>>52139218
Eh it's hard to translate in real time.
But he's worse than the first, yes.
It is difficult to keep track, I wonder if they'll do a second better translation in the later edits.
>>52139244
>>52139244
This guy's strong accent implies he doesn't know English well enough to be an English translator. Notice how often he can't find the right word and needs to stall.
Gist of what's going on:
Windows 10 updates are non-optional and that the quality control of the updates being pushed is failing. IE; updates you're being forced to install have not been looked at by a human to make sure they make sense.
the botnet is real
>>52139270
>updates you're being forced to install have not been looked at by a human to make sure they make sense
Microsoft = Absolutely poo-tier
>>52137399
club mate lmao
I live off this shit
Is Hall 2 sjw faggotry or did I enter at the wrong itme?
>>52139241
TL;DR: He arguest that Microsoft is incompetent and untrustworthy and that they shouldn't be able to force-push updates to your system.
>>52139290
There's nowhere reasonable in the US to get any :(
>>52139270
>updates you're being forced to install have not been looked at by a human to make sure they make sense.
Has he shown any proof of this?
If you install windows 10 you don't own your computer any more.
>>52139270
OK, I gleaned that much, thank you.
>non-optional
DwightFalse.onion
You can very easily prevent updates, just a few settings and a group policy.
>>52139306
This, I can agree with.
>>52139309
Yes. The nonsense updates like in:
>>52139288
>>52139302
cutest announcer
10/10 would bang
>>52139332
Pic?
>The TPM is the NSA chip
This guy is pretty damn /g/
BACKDOOR
>>52139348
N O T N E W S
O
T
N
E
W
S
"If you still use Windows after this, you're a supreme cuck"
- Professor PussySlayer
>>52139348
so what are you trying to say, that BACKDOOR is a evil word?
>>52139325
What is wrong with that update?
How many occurancies of this so called problem update are there in total per week, month, year?
I see Linux dsitros release sometimes 3, 4, 5 or even 6 revisions of the same packages within 6-9 months (no soname bump rebuilds) due to mistakes yet I don't see there being whole talks dedicated to that for some very strange reason.
>>52139360
i use windows server 2012 on my desktop, it's NSAproof.
prove me wrong /g/
>>52139348
>complains about mandatory signing
>modified UEFI for evil purposes is a problem
>cloud
Well, that was... interesting.
32C3 Infrastructure Review, Closing Event and that's all.
lecture: Wireless Drivers: Freedom considered harmful?
An OpenWrt perspective on the development of Linux 802.11 support
Hall G
Anyone going to listen in?
>>52138804
>dat 4/20/1945
>>52139476
I'll save that one for later. I'm watching the infrastructure review instead.
>>52139476
i love openwrt, so yeah, probably
>>52139363
Microsoft has repeatedly fucked up updates in the last year that broke arbitrary stuff or even the whole update mechanism.
I even know admins that hold back all windows updates one day on purpose to avoid breakage.
>>52139524
>I even know admins that hold back all windows updates one day on purpose to avoid breakage.
I think that's called not being retarded.
Who the fuck updates a network immediately?
>>52139524
>Microsoft has repeatedly fucked up updates in the last year that broke arbitrary stuff or even the whole update mechanism.
Can you give us a number, links, citations for all of these?
>I even know admins that hold back all windows updates one day on purpose to avoid breakage.
Yeah.. WSUS servers are commonly used and updates are held back no longer than those on Linux machines either. We have a mix of machines running RHEL and Windows and by the time we let Windows sit a few days and push out we are still waiting for RH update servers to shit something out for us.
>>52139564
KB3081424
Caused a boot loop for some users, just google it.
>>52139593
Can you list 5 more?
I never heard of that or the issue so it can't have been that big or widespread. My Linux desktop has broken boot from kernel & graphics updates at least 6 times this year so I'd rate my boot success with windows much higher right now.
>>52139639
Not the other anon, just googled it and that was the only real example of a "broken" update I could find without effort.
I'm in agreement with you, Linux has the same problems but receives zero attention (not that that's anything new hyuk hyuk hyuk)
what the fuck is Colo
>>52139771
colocation
>>52139771
>neo /g/
![s3_native_hd.webm_snapshot_10.35_[2015.12.30_09.15.01].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/vvqWZTP.jpg "s3_native_hd.webm_snapshot_10.35_[2015.12.30_09.15.01].jpg")
>reddit memes getting applause
no please
>>52139771
People could bring their servers to 32C3.
![s3_native_hd.webm_snapshot_12.13_[2015.12.30_09.16.41].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/bGh8Wn2.jpg "s3_native_hd.webm_snapshot_12.13_[2015.12.30_09.16.41].jpg")
>>52139787
WHY
>>52139813
it's a dig.
Before the memes he was saying that he'd relate it on the intellectual level he assumes was involved in ath10k
>>52139564
Windows 8.1 Update 2
they even release a whole pack of ISO's for that update and everything was so broken they pulled everything off, Update 3 was release at the end of that year which was the same as U2 but without broking too much stuff.
>>52139593
mcafee did the same shit with a dat file update, which triggered a file deletion of an important .sys file required for windows, which upon reboot would crash.
>in some cases, companies may be embarassed to show off their code to the world
>sad panda
does the reference mean something else than what i think?
>>52140407
it means exhentai you dip
NICE HAT CARINA
>>52140716
this
fuck yeah toilets
>>52140768
>>52137404
commercialized meme
>>52140716
>>52140742
that's what i thought tho
is it really what he was referencing?
>>52139056
I can't believe we get o/v/erflow, even in these threads
[claps internally]
it's over boys
so this is it, huh?
yeah, rip
so, GOAT talk of #32c3?
>>52137399
>All those piss bottles
Do I have to know German to survive at this event or is English enough?
>>52141261
There wasn't anything that much clearly better than the rest.
Off the top of my head some highlights were:
Red Star OS - this talk was fun.
State of the onion - always love hearing from roger
And of course:
Perl Jam 2 - Fun talk, and makes perl users really butthurt.
Another good moment was in the ebola talk where the guy who helped save hundreds of thousands of african's lives was called a racist at the end of the talk by some woman. Weird.
>>52141298
80% of the talks are in english, and the ones that are in german are live-translated into english for the stream. It's english friendly, because there's people from all over the world.
>>52141261
my favs
console hacking, new memory corruption attacks, deanon. programmers, mmorpg hacking, nootropics (no video), breaking crypto (no video)
>>52139042
i heard they put estrogen in the club-mate. i have this from very reliable sources
>>52141334
Oh and in the ecuador talk, Applebaum asked a question so damn long at the end that they had to cut him off.
Ooh, another one: Crypto wars part II. Kinda old news if you've been paying attention this year but a great summary of where encryption as a political viability is heading.
>>52141261
The Ling talk was interesting. Near the end there was a talk by the EFF guy and right at the end an OPSEC talk. Both were pretty good. Also the processor hardware talk was curious, but the guy refused to answer questions due to his NDA. What a faget.
>>52141334
>Another good moment was in the ebola talk where the guy who helped save hundreds of thousands of african's lives was called a racist at the end of the talk by some woman. Weird.
She probably went through the whole of the CCC with no one actually doing anything to upset her. Upon that talk, on the last day, and, with a subject that involved PEOPLE OF COLOR, she just couldn't help herself.
>>52141422
The ebola talk was quite good. Had some awkward moments but this is CCC we're talking about.
>>52141491
Why did she think he was racist? What did he say to make her think that?
>>52141505
That's the thing- it's a mystery.
>>52138830
>>52138911
>>52141505
She just did it for attention.
>>52141360
>deanon. programmers
replace that with AMD guy and we're good
>>52141397
they didn't cut him off, it was probably a technical issue (inb4 "good goy" etc.) with the video, the audio-only stream worked fine
>>52141622
Well the video stream died before he finished.
He was really going on though, I was like dammit already get to the point
>>52141638
Yeah, as much as he is an insufferable SJW, I do like to listen to Jake speaking but he was starting another 1h lecture it seemed.
>>52141360
was the nootropics talk a support group for europoors not being able to get scripts for adderall and where to get the best st. john's wort at your nearest apothecary?
>>52141360
>no video
>no video
edgy bro
>>52142109
how gnu are you?
>>52142109
these were small self-organized sessions. that's why there was no videos.
i didn't actually know about all the different sessions until the last day.
no one is being edgy here.
>>52138838
can i get the picture of black female the dubs alone ?
>>52145399
>>52141360
fuck i missed breaking crypto
