>Pascal set to be x10 more powerful than Maxwell
That's bullshit isn't it?
HYPE
any proof yet?
Maybe, it is a die shrink
10x more performance per watt under specific test that will never crop up in the real world.
>>52125950
Where is your content rich topic starter retard?
This is considered a stupid question. Stupid question by default, a question of which is standard as a question no one should answer but a quick google search may give the answer.
As I am the content police on your thread I am going to have to ban you from the normie group. For this matter be to be resolved, I have moved you to the retard group.
Enjoy whatever you get retard.
Sincerely
The retard police
Are you retarded?
>>52125995
Kek
This shit's gonna be expensive so I'm not hype but looks cool.
Nvidia all but confirmed that their next laptop GPU will be as powerful as a 980 desktop is now.
>>52125989
It will crop up in the real word but it won't in the consumer space. Off the top of my head the 10x figure Huang quoted was in relation to NVlink which is only for high performance computing, i.e data centres and whatnot.
>>52126510
Gameworks being harmful to AMD is a meme. Their cards are shit because no developers optimize for their shitty drivers and do the bare minimum to make their shit run. Even AMD sponsered games run better on Nvidia gear.
>>52126739
If you had any real idea at the technical side of things you'd not make such stupid comments.
>>52126510
get gimped by gimpworks, or get gimped by drivers after new generation
10x performance in deep learning and such
Also its comparing a tesla to a titan x, and the maxwell sucks balls at anything compute-related
Nvidia claim there is a 10X speedup for deep learning applications.
http://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/2015/03/17/pascal/
>>52126964
>>52126839
Can't stand these drive by shitposts
Such as fucking cop out
>>52127027
Well given the claim that AMD optimised games run better on Nvidia is mostly bullshit, the rest of the tripfag's post has even elss value. The reality is Nvidia and AMD architectures are good at different things - some games and engines prefer one over the other.
10x the performance in professional applications, but probably 1.2x performance in gaming. This is the Nvlink bandwidth increase, which has little to do with gaming performance.
>>52126992
Yes, indeed, this happens when you sacrifice compute power for muh gaymer multi 12k monitor hd cucksync, also wasting die space for muh features and stuff
>>52127097
AMD poked the sleeping bear with tomb raider. They made last minute adjustments that fucked with the performance and that's what sparked Gameworks. They withheld the proprietary tweaks for two months and made the game unplayable for 81% of the market. You reap what you sow.
http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/03/07/nvidia-apologizes-for-poor-geforce-performance-in-tomb-raider
>>52127097
Amd cares more about raw power and better scaling in multi gpu stuff
>Nvidia
>Actually delivering on anything
I wonder how they're going to pull off another 3.5 memegate this go around
Amd is more jew than nvidia, they just put extra vram on old cards and sell it as new. Retards then buy it because muh 8gb of vram, unaware of the fact that the card will never be able to make any use of all that vram.
>>52127346
>"2gb is all you ever need for 1080p!"
Ah 680/770 owners, how the mighty have fallen.
>>52125950
Intel always does this, is it true? No. It's marketing bullshit.
>>52127388
My 980 ti never exceeds 2gb under ultra 1440p gaming
>>52125989
The improvements do show up in the real world. On a prototype model that costs at least 10k. For the average consumer, never.
>>52127388
Hold on, hold on. When did I ever say that old gpus are still good for recent AAA games? Fucking ayymdfag. 4gb is more than enough for 1080p, 2gb was good 2-3 years ago. But 8gb in a card that can't run the latest AAA games maxed out at 1440p (390) is just plain jewtactics. Have you ever heard of a game that was done fairly well on the pc that used more than 4gb at 1080p? No, well neither have I. Ever heard of a game to use 8gb under 4k at all? No matter how shitty a game is made, it's morally wrong for it to use up 8gb at resolutions under 4k.
It is unheard of to have a x10 performance increase in a single generation.
>>52127388
it's not like a 680 could max out games at 1080 back when they were released anyway.
>>52127594
I guess 3.5gb is enough eh?
>>52127627
>always the same image
kek
>>52125950
They're referring to compute.
For gaming the increase will the same as always. GTX 1080ti is 15% faster than 980ti, GTX 1080 has same speed as 980ti, GTX 1070 has same speed as GTX 980 but more ram etc.
>>52126463
4wes0meE, you're back!!! I've missed you so much family ;_;
>>52127600
Not really though, even though these are theoretical, they're actual 10x increases. And not what nvidia is doing with, 20% better in this professional stuff, 30% better in this other thing that doesn't have to do anything with what the average customer uses a gpu for... So it's 10x faster than the previous generation.
>>52126739
Thanks for using a tripcode, fag.
>>52127627
The fuck is up with that witcher benchmark?
It doesn't even use 2gb of ram
1.5x better at same price point.
2x better at 150% price point.
3x better at 400% price point
Did you enjoy your wait y/n?
>>52127662
who is this cute anime girl?
>>52127693
Could it be possible that they tested it with a 2gb card?
>>52125950
Of course not! Just wait, you'll see that it has ten times the performance* like Huang said!
*per watt per unit die area in highly parallel computations involving solely 8-bit precision floating point values
>>52127720
How do you not know? She is probably the most famous anime girl of all time.
>>52127734
There are no 2gb 970s/80s, and it wouldn't matter because it doesn't even use that much even at 4K
>>52125950
>>Pascal set to be x10 more powerful than Maxwell
REAL ASYNC COMPUTE
>>52127640
>posts one chart vs five
You sure laid down some knowledge anon.
Pic unrelated.
>>52127681
I'm talking about gpu processors, not a wiring specification.
>>52127766
Where does it say they were using high-end 900 series nvidia gpus? Their grammar is poo-in-loo-tier, so I guessed they're some poor pajeets.
>>52127786
It's literally the same image every single thread
>>52127793
>>>52127600
>>It is unheard of to have a x10 performance increase in a single generation.
Where did you specify you were talking about gpus? It could've as well been about v6 engines.
>>52127812
It says it in the article from guru3d
>>52127832
That doesn't stop it being true.
>>52125950
>Pascal set to be x10 more powerful than Maxwell
It will have 10x more memory bandwidth, how that will translate into FPS is unclear. You sure as hell won't get 10x the FPS you do with a 960\970\980
>>52127848
>taking my words out of _context_
Is this what AMDfags have to put up with?
The thread is obviously about nvidia cards, not usb. Have you heard of Moore's law at all.
>>52127858
Well then, good job CD Projekt.
>>52127886
>muh only pieces of anecdotal evidence
>muh shitty watchdogs unoptimized game (who the fuck uses it as a benchmark?)
>muh Shadow of Mordor and Attila, two games that favor AMD and run like shit on Nvidia
>muh Witcher 3 which makes no sense because it doesn't even come close to 3gb of memory usage
Yeah, no cherry picking there
Most likely. Seems like nvidia is doing maximum shilling ever since AMD tore them a new one with the Fury X.
Rumour is Nvidia is gimping games for AMD on the down low in a desperate attempt to keep jewing customers out of their money. They seem desperate enough to do it to be honest.
>>52127888
Yes, but Moore's Law isn't specifically about gpus either.
>>52127995
Kek, Fury X, the 4gb 4k card with loud liquid cooling. vomit_chan, pls, don't be so delusional.
guys I really need to know now as I want to pull the trigger on buying in the next hour or two depending on this
I have GTX 580, want to buy GTX 970 because I don't game any higher than 1080p and I think it might be enough.
Should I wait for the new meme pascal cards?
>>52127180
>Taking a page out of Jewvidea's book
Good job team red, keep doing bullshit like this, apparently that's what it takes to be on top, since most gaymurs are morons who don't pay much attention.
>>52127945
Its cherry picked because those are games where the 970 stutters? Remember the 970 doesn't need to actually hit 3.5gb of usage in theory to suffer the fuckery of the slow partition - it simply needs to read or write to that partition.
Thats the real worrying part about the 970 - the second Nvidia stops caring to write driver side code to prevent vidya hitting that last partition frametimes are going to go all over the place as the card's bandwidth gets pulled way down (remember, its a XOR situation). A problem neither hawaii or the 980 are gonig to suffer from.
>>52127890
thx
>>52127995
Fury x aka ''the hbm titan killer'' was a fail
>>52128194
>AC unity
>>52128051
But this loud monstrosity shit all over Nvidia. Obviously the batshit crazy fast HBM has something to do with it. Which AMD gets first dibs on since they developed that shit. HBM2 is on the way too.
Sure, performance has been god awful but as AMD improved the drivers we've observed the Fury X shitting on the 980ti.
>>52128194
Assassin's creed unity has horrific memory management and the only solution is to brute force it.
Then again /g/ has no clue whatsoever about how HBM works and slaps all of fiji's performance woes upon it (hint: its unrelated to HBM).
>>52128194
Now show me a graph with Fury X using the most recent drivers.
>>52128055
I would not work with you on an Engineering project if you bought a 970 card. But you're likely a retard gamer, so who cares if you buy faulty equipment.
>>52128055
>>52128055
I think 970 will have a good resale value, but I wouldn't wait 6-8 months for new gpu's to fully enter the marketplace though. Depends on how much the 970 is also.
>>52128194
These crazy frametimes is because of the drivers, not the hardware.
>>52128222
>>52128257
>wait 4 month after the lauch to improve the fury driver
>wait 4 month
>wait 4 month
>>52128222
Until a game needs more than 4gb of vram, right senpai? You're still my fave tripfag though, even though you're an ayymdfag and I'm an nvidyacuck.
>>52128271
thanks for the tip fedora fiend
>>52128287
The original titan didn't have supporting drivers until 3 months after release.
>have to overclock a 980ti to match fury x performance
>>52128307
>>52125950
Marketing bs ofc
>>52128346
>he doesn't know
>>52128336
A much later after release, the 295x2 is STILL the fastest card on the market. Simply amazing sempai.
>>52128336
>he post the wrong pic
Who the hell will buy a reference card?
>>52128375
>bi gpu drivers
Too much problem m8
>>52128392
>40fps ahead of the fury x
>it's still 50mhz-100mhz less than what people are getting on forums
Truly an overclocker's dream.
>>52128392
>BF3
You be shittin' me anon.
>>52128462
look the crazy OC...
>>52128531
AMD gpus aren't fond of firestrike in general in general - hence why the 290x loses ot a 780ti in that yet we know in most vidya it beats it.
Though it would be nice to have a firestrike chart with a fury x on it, simply for comparison.
>>52128291
What makes you think AMD won't release a fury x type card with 8GB of blistering fast HBM or HBM2?
And to be fair if your video game needs 16GB of vRAM to run then you are obviously doing something fucking wrong (unless the game in question is a realistic VR game).
Look man, nvidia is obviously sweating bullets right now. These imbeciles are scrambling to design a GPU that will beat the fury x significantly. Problem is maxwell is dogshit and Pascal will likely be dogshit as well. Rumour is Pascal is just Maxwell with a few hotfixes.
I do love AMD but I still want them to have competition else they will become the next intel company. For your sake and mine, Nvidia better discover quantum gpus or some shit. They're gonna need that against Artic Islands from AMD.
>>52128646
>quad cf
btw, we talk about overclocking
>R9 295X2
Can you people please stop spouting this meme cars. No sane human being would ever use this unless they owned a nuclear power plant.
>>52128721
I used to hate you but now you are my favourite tripfag
>>52128721
nvidia should just save themselves all of the humiliation and start selling space heaters. artic islands is going to fucking annihilate nvidia TWICE. amd isn't fucking around anymore.
>>52128721
>Rumour is Pascal is just Maxwell with a few hotfixes.
YOU SHUT YOUR WHORE MOUTH. These are all rumours made by butt devastated amdfags, nothing more. nvidia has more money than amd so they are going to make dam sure pascal will be goat as fuck.
>>52128899
this
>>52128899
>>52125950
>muh gaymen
you guys don't even use your current gpus to their fullest so of course you'll never see that x10.
Of course it's fucking bullshit. Nvydia somehow got their top of the line 980ti fucking rekt by a 4gb amd card. They are doing all the damage control they possibly can to keep their user base from leaving.
>>52125995
I thought you were the content police? You can be both, you'd have too much power over your own decision.
>>52129144
Fury X? right? right?
>>52129125
BUTT there is no 10x better performance. It's all a ruse nvidia is doing to keep milking the goy of their money. Pascal will just be a slightly modified version of maxwell on 16nm.
At best, Pascal might be 1.5x better than maxwell, assuming nvidia started caring about performance and not just blatantly ripping people off.
>>52129144
Fury was a very big disappointment
>>52129217
At first. Now the most recent driver updates are making the fury x outperform even the 980ti meme card.
AMD makes pretty good gpus. It's their drivers that are dogshit. So much for open sores.
>>52128375
It's not a single GPU. It's 2 290x's in Crossfire. Also 500 watt power draw.
If you put 2 980's in SLI you would crush the 295x2.
>>52129258
It's not in crossfire mode you inbred. Both gpus are being fed data by the same pci expres lanes. It's massively bandwidth starved though.
>Nvidia blatantly lying to customers
>again
Shocking
>>52129252
>dat housefire need a watercooling
>4096 cores
>hbm
>can't beat a stock 980ti
>>52129356
I'm going to laugh when they issue card killing drivers again to get people to upgrade to Pascal
>>52129252
>980ti
>meme card
WEW LAD
>got a friend who is a diehard amdfag
>even he reluctantly bought a 980 ti
Any performance increases that are multiples are bullshit. For example, Surface Book tards claiming that its CPU is "OVER 3 TIMES FASTER" than the current MacBook Pro models, despite them being made of the same shit in a different-looking package. They're both jewtel Skylake, which is barely better than the also-pointless Broadwell.
>>52131231
You're friend must have been smoking a metric ton of crack every day. endvydia gpus don't have async compute.
>>52131299
At least broadwell has a good igpu.
>>52131231
>friend was a diehard nvidiafag
>got pissed at all the windows 10 issues and vowed to go AMD for his next GPU, and to never use another Nvidia GPU again
>this happened around the time I upgraded to an Nvidia GPU after 6 years of nothing but AMD
>>52131299
>>52131318
The funny thing is that the unlocked Broadwell chips are faster in a few games than Skylake thanks to that edram.
>>52125950
10x "Compute", not gaymen
And even then it is a greatly exaggerated number because they would have picked a specific test case showing great results.
I don't trust nvidia already fell for their marketing once.
>Maxwell "Full" DX12 support
>GTX 970 4GB and 64 ROP count
>>52125950
it could very well be true, but it probably won't translate into 10x more fps.
More powerful could simply be floating point or other bullshit metric they picked to come up with "ten times more powerful"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcF36_qMd8M
>nvidia is corporate draconian reptilians.
>amd is glorious, noble and humble company of ethical gaming.
>>52128531
My 980 Ti OC'ed scored over 20th, it's a beast.
>>52127546
That's interesting cuz on my mg279q I see over 2gb all the time. Over 4gb on rare occasions. Are you not paying attention or playing LoL?
>>52127516
30 times? So it will run crysis 3 on ultra?
>>52129392
all the meme 3.5 card holders going to be pissed when their 350$ memecard runs like shit.
AMD is putin
Nvidia is Obama
Both governments does propoganda, and tries to make their citizens to stay on their products only, because money.
It will be 15% more powerful at most, like usual.
>>52135028
So that means nVidia is doing secret lab tests with their citizens in Area 51?
Yes and that is the minimum. In our recent tests we saw 17x improvements in speed and stability over Maxwell. Just buy it, goy.
>>52127786
>people still, STILL, buy 970's after 3.5+5
>>52135073
In the review that came from the 390 beat the 970 in every game except for project cars.
10X performance with enterprise cards
with their proprietary NV link which improves scaling
in very, very, very specific workloads
while using "mixed" precision including FP16 and even FP8
and that 10x is still only best case scenario
But of course Nvidia hides all of this in foot notes so that they can fool gamers with entirely misleading headlines
The next high end consumer card will outperform the 980 ti by a 20-30% and probably use less power while doing it.
>>52127750
SHE ISN'T REAL JOHN.
IT'S TIME TO GO OUTSIDE.
>>52125950
Nvidia finds a way*
*by using footnotes, cherry picked benchmarks and comparing cards that were never in the same price bracket
>>52125950
It will be 10x more powerful, but only in something that is stupidly specific.
Its like when they introduced CUDA to the cards or heaped on shit tonnes of tessellation units; they improved performance by LOADS -- but the only time you ACTUALLY saw some surprising boost to performance is very strict tests/workloads.
>>52129252
Well if GPU's drivers are shit, it makes GPU shit. It's like job
Let's say GPU is office #1, And drivers are #2.
So office #1 does pretty nice job, but office #2 does shitty job. If any office does a shitty job, it makes both offices look shit looking from consumer side.
>right now you can get an i5-4690, Z97, hyper 212 evo, 8gb ddr3 1866, R9 390 8gb, and 850 evo 250gb ssd for $665 usd
>>52135548
>Using meme ddr3
Move to ddr4 boys..
>>52125950
it's cherry picking, not bullshit
it won't run your cawadoody at ten times the frame rate, but it will perform that specific test at ten times the rate per watt.
>>52135585
You mean goys
http://www.nvidia.com/object/ces2016.html
IT'S HAPPENING.
>>52135633
bookmarked
>>52135631
/g/ays
>>52126977
So the singularity is next year?
>>52135633
>>52135633
Presentation sponsored by fold@home
>>52127693
if that's well optimized and texture sizes and such are the same on all resolutions, only the framebuffer size should increase, which looks about right there.
>>52125950
It's not bullshit. It defeats AMD as you can see. AMD is outdated Russian military shit. nVidia is updated american army stuff.
>>52135643
>>52135669
Actually Pascal details will only be out in April
http://www.gputechconf.com/
APRIL 4-7, 2016
SILICON VALLEY
>>52135689
what the fuck you say about mother land we kill you easy ameican possy
>>52135585
It still has terrible value
>>52135716
Because noone buys it. If you start buying it, demand will go higher, and prices lower.That's how price's revolution works.
>>52135709
I'm not american. I'm from Eastern Europe. I fear of war everyday. And I can confirm that obama has a pussy.
>>52135690
Literally Q2 2016
>>52135689
Actually a pretty good analogy;
>Nvidia (US): Looks pretty, sells itself as the best, costs a lot more, reliable at times and devastating at others, falls apart quite easily and pretty hard to put back together if it does, comes with a lot of hidden issues that aren't obvious at first, faggots with no knowledge flock to it like its the be all end all
>AMD (RU): Looks pretty in its own way; but not all fancy and defined, always reliable, costs a lot less, doesn't fall apart, doesn't come with hidden issues, doesn't sell itself as the be all end all, gets the job done just as well
>>52135726
3 Obamas have a pussy, but not Barry. He killed Osama and ruined Russian oil making gasoline cheap.
>>52135734
Yes. Seen few videos how US fights with ISIS and stuff. They're using same old technologies. So if war happens, it's all over again, US can't do shit. It will be equal. Well RU defended Moscow somehow from germany in WW2, that shows RU isn't random piece of shit.
>>52135753
He's just president. There are people who controls him.
>>52135762
>Russian made aircraft
At least they have good SAM tech.
>>52127995
>barely 10% market share and declining
>"tore them a new one"
Ah it's you. I am wondering if this trip is just a dedicated troll because whenever I read some dumb as FUCK comment here it's always - ALWAYS - you no matter what. It hasn't failed me once yet.
>>52125950
>Pascal set to be x10 more powerful than Maxwell
They'll gimp anything except the top end $1000 GPU, including 900 series, to keep fucking customers in the ass.
Meanwhile AMD will continue playing fair, creating open source software and keep getting shat on by /g/ for whatever reason.
>>52135073
because most people are retards, and thats the world we live in, bretty sad actually
>>52135966
Go away nvidiacuck, AMD is going to take over the gpu market and there's nothing you can do about it. Artic islands is coming out soon and nvidia is bullshiting everyone about pascal.
These two things are omens of nvidias road to bankruptcy.
>>52125995
>/g/
>content rich
Pick one and only one faggot. The only thing you can consider content rich here is the grade A shitposting.
>>52135753
anyone getting to power in a 1st world country is a pussy
>>52125950
10x more compute performance in one specific scenarios, Nvidia themselves said absolutely nothing about actual gaming performance. Stop playing telephone and read the actual articles dumb ass.
It's easy to get x times speed increase when money is no object. You wont NVLink in a consumer based x86-64 motherboard any time soon if ever.
>>52125989
ya it will be huge TFLOP #s but actual performance wont be anything similar
>>52127180
>81%
more like ~70% at the time.
