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Other business laptops are also welcome in /tpg/ (e.g. Dell Latitude/Precision, HP EliteBook/ZBook).
If you're looking for purchase advice, READ THE BUYERS GUIDE FIRST. Then post, stating budget and requirements (e.g. size and performance).
Don't buy anything OTHER THAN T, X AND W/P SERIES if you want the Real ThinkPad Experience™
Recommended models:
T420 - 14", normal size
X220 - 12.5", lightweight
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No news.
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Why ThinkPad? (also applies to other business laptops)
>They’re really cheap when you buy a used one.
>Keyboards feel excellent while typing (yes, even the newer ones).
>Great durability thanks to the inclusion of rollcages and use of glass fiber reinforced plastic for the chassis. The keyboard is splash proof and spilled liquids will drain out.
>Utilitarian design - e.g. indicator LEDs, 7 row keyboard layout on older models.
>Docking solutions that easily turns your laptop into a desktop.
>Easy to repair, upgrade and maintain thanks to readily available service manuals for almost every model. Spare parts are easy and cheap to obtain.
>The best trackpoint (that red thing on the middle of the keyboard). Great for those who type a lot or hate swiping their fingers all over a touchpad.
>Excellent GNU/Linux & *BSD support.
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Used ThinkPad Buyers Guide:
http://ktgee.net/tpg
EPP discount for new ThinkPads (USA & Canada only, usually 15%+ off):
http://pastebin.com/wumE7L2f
ThinkWiki - Info on ThinkPads and running GNU/Linux on them:
http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ThinkWiki
ThinkPad service guides w/ tutorial videos:
https://www.lenovoservicetraining.com/
>>52106347
Post your dream thinkpad
>t430 as a base
>ips FHD screen mod
>T420 keyboard mod
>9 cell battery
>blu ray ultra Bay
My dick gets hard just thinking about it
>Tfw no money until next summer
>>52106413
>W520
>dock
>ssd and HD
Would replace my desktop or maybe a ds.
Why haven't you joined the eGPU scene yet?
repostan
Finally got a dock, where to get a key? didn't find the right price for dock+ac+key, so settled for dock and ac.
>>52106506
>>52106413
16x9 14" x220
>>52106413
My dream thinkpad is any real thinkpad that I can get around.
I am thankful that in my third world I could get a 1440x900 T410 with just some minor cosmetic damages.
I am thankful that there are good laptops around compared to the shitfest of Acer and Edge series that hang around.
How is the X250? Build quality good? Dual batteries seems really nice.
>falling for the thinkpad meme
i bought an t420, yes with the 1600x900 screen, and it has the worst fucking screen i've ever had.
no contrast and no viewing angles gave me eye cancer.
>>52106528
So a t420, got it
>>52106491
Nigger just get the P50
>>52106747
You bought into the T420 meme
I tell people every fucking thread that the T420 is absolute dog shit
>>52106771
>>52106801
DUDE 420 LMAO
I got a Thinkpad Yoga 14 for christmas. Not even that mad. It's new and all and I really like the touch/stylus drawing tablet screen (which I use very often).
At the moment it is running Botnet(tm) 10. Aka Win10. But I want to put NixOS onto it. Since Nix is love, nix is life. Does anybody have any experiance with linux on a Thinkpad Yoga 14? Model has intel 5500 as graphics and an i7.
Did not find anything on the thinkwiki. Screen Input is absolutely necessary for Krita and other artsy shit.
>>52106771
basically, I never use my speakers.
>>52106801
>>52106747
>muh viewing angles
If you're not sitting straight and looking straight into your screen, you probably shouldn't have a computer you fucking retard.
>>52106868
> Having a FULL HD IPS
> Feelsgoodman.jpg
Only drawback is that people on the train can look into your screen.
>>52106801
>>52106747
Fuck off niggers, do the IPS mod or get a carbon or even better a MAC!!
You won't get a better deal, you are supposed to be productive not to stare at pretty colors. Vertical viewing angles don't matter because the hinges allow 180 degree movement of the screen.
>>52106827
I have the same one and it's actually great
Has rollcage, ips display, decent graphics, and is thin and light enough to be considered an ultrabook. It's basically on par with the T series
>>52106891
The mac meme. You serious?
>>52106868
It has nothing to do with viewing angles. It's just the worst screen money can buy
>>52106903
Yeah it's quite an innovative product. Yet, there is no fucking information about using Linux on it online. I really dislike the Botnet, it's a good system for end-consumer cashcows but nothing for any serious user.
Also wanted to test this tiling desktop meme.
>>52106508
>old x series
>wants a dock
Are you retarded? Use it for what it's good for
>>52106868
there are people who are not autismal as you and look at the screen at an right angle all the time.
you can see the colours shift even at 10°. I could tolerate that, but there is no contrast, and it makes my eyes hurt.
>>52106905
For the idiots that dismiss a thinkpad solely on their screen, yes. They deserve an apple.
>>52106971
have a t410 actually, not a x200.
just wanted to post a tp pic.
>>52106930
No way dude, at least is LED. My Dell inspiron's was way worse.
>>52107078
I literally cannot imagine a worse screen than what I saw on the T420 I bought for my friend
Side by side it's genuinely worse than the consumer hp 1366x768 shitfest that was also at hand
>>52106964
Don't bother, you basically lose the usage of your discrete graphics. Only use Linux on desktops or Intel only laptops unless you could really give a shit about 3d performance in anything
>>52107061
Oh neat, sorry for the hostility. It was uncalled for either way
>>52107123
Could be that resolution only. I am comparing my Dell's 1660x900 vs my T410 1440x900 and while both have more or less the same color reproduction, the Dell's worse on my eyes.
You care about colors? Get an external monitor. Do you realize that this computers were made for business people in mind and not meme photoshoppers internet surfers?
>>52107145
Wait, please clarify. I have an i7 processor and a HD 5500 graphics chipset from Intel in this thing. What exactly do you mean with "intel only laptop"?
>>52107201
Nope, I tried to imply that the T420 had 900p resolution. It's just indefensibly bad
Other anon is right. X1 carbon screen mod is a necessity, not a convenience
>>52107260
You keep saying bad yet don't provide objective arguments. It might be a necessity for you because you probably only browse the web.
Get a job, no one cares about your pretty colors.
>>52107241
I mean it has an Nvidia 940m gpu, am I correct? If you use Linux you lose switchable graphics and have to use one gpu or another.
By Intel only I meant laptops with only Intel integrated gpus
>>52107201
>You care about colors? Get an external monitor. Do you realize that this computers were made for business people in mind and not meme photoshoppers internet surfers?
>le business man meme
>ahh i'm so srs who needs a normal screen if you can have this amount of BIZNES
Nobody would complain if they mounted a normal TN on it. But this one is utter shit.
>>52107293
Objectively, it is subjectively worse than 90% of all laptops displays ever made
It might be fine for you but that just means you're ok with garbage
Repost
How did I do? I plan on upgrading to 16GB RAM and the 2.9 Ghz processor.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/391348952308?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
>>52107354
Well yeah some toshibas from Windows vista era had better displays but shitty plastics. Let's put a good screen, but sacrifice the roll cage you ok with that son?
>>52107365
The only garbage you will see is when I smash your THINK-IPAD CAHBON ECKS DEE and then use the broken glass of the IPS panel to carve in your chest "I should have gotten the TN panel".
What are you gonna do about? I rather have a sturdy computer than an Apple clone.
>>52106413
>latest specs
obvious
>**20 series keyboard
godlike keyboard retaining the "retro" design but still feels modern when compared to X60 for example (also big delete key)
>16:10
4:3 not being manufactured anymore and since we are watching much more media than before 16:10 is fine hybrid
>FHD IPS
obviously... screen is very important since you stare at it whenever you're using the computer (duh)
>lots of status leds
instead of relying to bullshit software to tell me whether I have numlock on or off
>thinklight
one led does the job better than 1 led per key (backlit keys)
So i bought a X220 to replace my T60.
But what should i do with my T60? what kind of server could i use it for? i already have a home server.
I don't want it to just sit their and waste away.
>>52107322
Huh. Weird. According to Lenovo this model does not have NVidia graphics.
This does not comply with the specs that it should have according to the guy who gifted it to me.
Model number is 20DM009NDE.
http://www.heise.de/preisvergleich/lenovo-thinkpad-yoga-14-20dm009nge-a1318320.html
Hm. I should talk to the person who gifted me this laptop. Either it is a mixup, or he got the wrong laptop than the one he originally wanted to gift me.
Still, it's a nice laptop.
>>52107463
>16:10
>FHD
lel
>>52107536
>dream laptop
>dream
>>52107452
>if your screen isn't garbage then it's a mac
You should die some time soon
>>52107569
As if. It's the idiots curse to live longer.
>>52107515
Oh shit, in America they all have Nvidia gpus. Have fun trying out Linux then
I recommend ubuntu gnome. Burn iso to a thumb drive and have fun
>>52107260
>Other anon is right. X1 carbon screen mod is a necessity, not a convenience
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyjyXZA1oa4
>>52107452
>Well yeah some toshibas from Windows vista era had better displays but shitty plastics. Let's put a good screen, but sacrifice the roll cage you ok with that son?
>not having x is not a valid point because it has y and z
Mad kindergarten discussion skills, bro.
>>52107463
>obviously... screen is very important since you stare at it whenever you're using the computer (duh)
dis nigger gets it.
>>52107569
I didn't imply that. What are you gonna do about it? The TN was there to cut down costs. Do the IPS mod or bust.
>>52107602
Nah, first I'll clear this up. Either it's the wrong fucking laptop and underpowered compared to what I should have gotten ... or it will run Linux.
>>52107640
I'm not saying it shouldn't have an IPS panel, it would be great but that's the way it is.
Why don't you help the community and make the IPS mod more viable?
CUNT.
>>52106524
well I assume heat is never an issue for you...how fun is it to move all that crap tho?
why not just get a pc, faggot,
Is it possible to remove the nVIDIA discrete from the T430 i5? Because I can't find T430 i7 (no nVIDIA) being sold online.
>>52106827
Use a live disc and see how things work.
>>52106695
I forgot to mention, how is Linux support on it? I run Debian Jessie.
Has anyone gotten the new Thinkpad Yoga 14 with the skylake in it? Is it worth it over the broadwell version?
>>52106827
>>52106903
>>52108584
*Apparently the DisplayPort is hardwired to the nVIDIA on W530 meaning the nVIDIA is not replaceable. Is this also on T430 i5? My only issue buying T430 is nVIDIA. Annoying.
What else by Thinkpad or a dif brand is comparable to T430 including price-wise?
>>52108604
I'll post once I get to it. For now, I'll go to bed, then clear up if I actually have the right laptop :o
I have the I7-5500U version, so it's broadwell and I can't give any information on Skylake.
>>52108831
not replaceable but removeable.
>>52108806
the one I have is actually the broken haslel 1st gen. a buddy of mine helped me solder the switch that causes the shutoff issue so I now happily enjoy a 45% discounted thinkpad with a fullhd IPS display
so I have one question for you guys: are there any laptop cases/shells that contain pockets for external accessories? I'd love something to slip over the top of this that could hold my externall HDD and still be as portable as if it were internal
>>52106695
Build quality is great. Installed Xubuntu (and Compton) and everything was good to go immediately. Great experience so far and battery life is great with the 68+. Coming from an X220 the 1080p display is a breath of fresh air, and my X220 had IPS.
>>52108913
Velcro on the laptop lid and underside of the HDD and it's done.
>>52109010
yeah might do that. not super sturdy though. would prefer something to cover it so I can throw it in a bookbag and pretend like it's just built in
honestly the dream would be something like the setup jeff goldblum has in independence day, where his phone has a clip right on his laptop lid. I always thought that was cool as shit, now I have a laptop, butloads of accessories and side devices, and nowhere to store/attach to the laptop. it's a shame
What are the differences in build between a Thinkpad Yoga 14 and a T450? The T450 seems like a much better laptop, via specs for price.
>>52109070
it is. Build quality is better but that doesn't make the Yoga a thinkpad edge tier piece of garbage. It still has a carbon fiber finish and a rollcage
the difference is that the yoga has the touch screen and shorter battery life. t450s has no touch screen and better battery life
Incorrect. The T450 has the option of a 1600x900 touch screen. AFAIK it ain't an IPS panel though.
Yoga seems more to be the kind of "Hey, how would a thinkpad look like if it'd fucked a tablet" thing.
>>52109135
>Hey, how would a thinkpad look like if it'd fucked a tablet
say no more senpai
>>52108991
Thanks! Hopefully I'll be able to get one soon since my Asus n56vm died due to a really retarded bios bug. Looking forward to the smaller form factor and glorious 1080p IPS. I'm definitely gonna get the extended battery.
>>52109363
Top kek. That hinge still looks like a major breaking point to me though.
Is it ok to clean T520 with isopropyl alcohol? It seems just fine when I do it but im afraid of long term effects, maybe its my imagination but it seems very slightly discolored.
Also any tips for dampening a 7200rpm hard drive?
>>52109135
T450s is 1080p IPS
>>52106347
best thinkpad I can get for £200?
>>52109922
t430 if you're smart
>>52109920
Then it is truely superior.
>>52109973
how can i be smart?
>>52110002
can't help you out there
>>52110000
Found a x220 at almost 300$. should I buy it?
>>52110173
Its id is 4921y76 y think.
Also I live in a 3rd world country. Everything is expensive.
Which 2-3 year old thinkpads have the best screens? i know the 420 and 430 have awful screens so i want to avoid those. i heard the x220 ips is really good but they are very hard to find here in the UK
>>52110173
>>52110220
How long have you been looking for it? I'm also from a shitty country. I bought myself a x201 for 110euros. At first all I saw were prices 180-240, sometimes 160. Then a few for 140, few for 120 but with defects. After looking almost everyday at least once I managed to find one for 110e in good condition. So take your time if your money is tight and you have time.
>>52110245
T430 1600x900 has an awful screen how? I was looking into buying one.
>>52110286
Forgot to add, in my case it took me like 2-3weeks to find a good deal in my country's version of craiglist (it's a small country). Just checked , the cheapest one for sale now is 160e. So maybe you'll get lucky if you keep looking.
>>52110315
dim, piss poor vieiwng angles, poor colours
>>52110245
15" Thinkpads generally have the best screens. Excellent colors and resolutions. X220 does have IPS, but the color reproduction is crap, it's only something like 60% sRGB while the T/W520 screens can hit 95% and go up to 1080p.
Also I just got some replacement trackpoints and holy shit, the soft rim is so good. Feels so much more accurate than the soft dome and my finger can't slip off. Haven't tried the classic dome yet, but it seems like it would only compound the issues I had with the soft dome.
>>52110286
I've found x220 for 150€. Difficult to grab though.
>>52106413
An X2xx with discrete graphics and dedicated buttons for volume.
>>52110412
So a T520 or W520 with a 1080p screen would be the best I can get (without installing my own 3rd party panel)?
>>52106413
X220 with higher res screen and a docking option like the old Advanced Docks that let you use a desktop GPU, except without the size limit that those docks had. That'd basically be perfect. Newer internal specs are a given, of course. Give me a full voltage Haswell instead of a ULV Broadlell though.
>>52109922
Personally I'd buy a stripped x200 or x201 and build it up with 8gb RAM, SSD, new OEM 9-cell, spare chinkshit 6-cell, AC adapter, 12V DC car adapter.
You can also probably get a scuffed up x220 for that (dunno about bongland), but it will probably come with some compromises (HDD instead of SSD, "good" battery etc).
I prefer a maxed out, perfectly customized older model to a middling newer one for the same money. You can of course max out that 220 but it will cost you more to do so.
>>52110454
Yeah. I have a T510 with only a 900p screen and it's still gorgeous, absolutely destroys the one in my T420.
>>52110534
12" is gonna be too small for me i think
Hey /g/uys, need help. Are these things any good? Heard the tablet's actually Wacom, but there's no point in buing it if the digitizer breaks fast.
http://www.ncix.com/detail/lenovo-thinkpad-t450s-i7-5600u-6c-107949-1691.htm
Is this a good deal?
What is the SSD Lenovo puts in the T450s? Is it a M.2? If so can i put a regular Sata HDD with it?
I want to buy a portable thinkpad for college staring in March. Should I get a X220, X230 or shell out and get a X240 or a X250? How easy is to mod the trackpad in the X240?
Help a bro out /anons/. I'm looking for a way to manually control and/or set up heat thresholds for my fan in my x220. I'm running Arch but all I can find are old repo's that have been taken off AUR. tpfand, tpfanco, tpfancod, tpfand-admin, etc..
Please point me in the right direction, thanks!
>>52111531
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-x220-12-6-Intel-Core-i5-2540M-2-60GHz-No-RAM-No-HDD-Win7ProCOA-/151923737829?hash=item235f5c44e5:g:cWEAAOSw~otWeG4U
X220 for $100, add your own RAM, storage, and power supply (get genuine, generics suck). Even if you have to buy all of those things yourself you should still be able to undercut most other X220s on offer.
>>52111781
thinkfan is what you're looking for. tlp might help too, not sure but you should install it anyway if you haven't.
>>52111782
>Does not ship to Chile
Do x220s support SATA III? Sorry if stupid question.
>>52111985
Yes, but only in the main bay. mSATA slot only runs at SATA II.
>>52111985
Yes, all Sandy Bridge Thinkpads support SataIII
>>52108584
You should be able to disable it in BIOS and just use the integrated all the time. My nvidia T420 has the option, I imagine the T430 is the same.
>went to best buy to buy Thinkpad after posting >>52109070
>obviously they don't have any on the show floor, only going there because mum is giving me dosh on her best buy card
>best buy employee comes to ask if I need help
>"fuck here we go"
>tell him I'm looking for a "Lenovo Thinkpad", and get my whole "yeah I'm just looking around though thanks(pls go away)" speech ready
>turns out he actually uses thinkpads and is pretty cool
>actually understands everything I'm talking about and we have a p cool conversation for like an hour
>almost positive he at least lurks /g/
>never mentioned 4chan because didn't want to be that guy
>we part ways and I go to the counter to place order with random best buy grill employee
>ended up buying a Thinkpad Yoga 14 with 8gb RAM, 1080p IPS, 940m, 1tb hdd w/ 16gb ssd cache for $860 after tax
>tfw we didn't give names
if you see this, best buy-anon, it was cool talking to you.
I was considering the T450, but the specs for $850 are just garbage and the build quality is just not worth the money you're paying. 1366x768 on a 14" in 2016-ish is just ridiculous. 1080p seems perfectly fine, though.
Did I just fuck my own shit up going for a Thinkpad Yoga? I'm a student and just didn't see the need for the ridiculous over-build of the T450. $850+ tax for
>1366x768
>500gb hdd
>4gb ram
>integrated graphics
>4lbs
>3 cell external
it just seemed like a waste of money compared to the yoga version. Truly, I only bought a ThinkPad because I wanted a trackpoint and a not-totally-garbage keyboard in a new laptop. I'm already regretting it, though.
Hey guys i'm thinking about getting a Elitebook 8760W and then upgrading the GPU to a Quadro 5010m later on.
Should I do it or not?
>>52106413
A T60 with an up-to-date motherboard.
Going to get a new Yoga laptop from my school next semester
>>52112764
>tfw deleted
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2d6T5G2rrY
>>52112986
lenovo agents have taken care of him
>>52112959
Did you expect us to laud you for buying consumer crap?
>>52112631
You did OK. It's just not going to be as durable. If you're not a total Neanderthal, it'll survive long enough for you to need to upgrade.
>>52106413
14.1" 4:3 T60 platform with IPS and full voltage CPU/dedicated graphics and otherwise modern hardware.
Basically what I was expecting the "Retro" to be til millennial voters fagged up the results.
>>52112631
>thinkpad missed connections
>no homo
>tfw typing together with best-buy thinkpad bro crush. You left hand, him left handed. Pic related.
>tfw want to be part of the gang
>tfw can't make my mind up on which Thinkpad I should get.
So many conflicting views.
>t420 is the best, anon.
>t420 has shit screen don't fall for meme, anon.
>x220 with IPS is best, anon
>x220 screen is still shit, anon.
What can I buy for under $400, with a nice screen and keyboard? Mobility is a plus too.
>>52113290
just buy a fucking new one, anon. the old ones have old-laptop problems.
>>52113290
T520, or T420s with FHD IPS mod.
>>52113357
I thought the t520 came with fhd?
Do I just purchase a regular t520 and then replace the screen?
>>52113418
T520 has FHD stock. It's the T420s that you have to mod.
Bought a W530 - did I fuck up /g?
>>52107471
>>52108991
>>52111781
Have any of you had any success with a triple boot system Windoze X OS X and Linux distro X? I have X220 Tablet and an X220 with compatible parts. I read the following tutorials:
http://lifehacker.com/5877605/follow-these-best-practices-when-dual-booting-os-x-and-windows-7-on-a-hackintosh
http://x220.mcdonnelltech.com/
http://www.tonymacx86.com/snow-leopard-laptop-support/18619-lenovo-x220-2.html
http://lifehacker.com/the-always-up-to-date-guide-to-building-a-hackintosh-o-5841604
It seems like the x220 guide wants us to boot to different drives, I'm ok with this, but I prefer not to so I can use the msata drive as a shared storage space. Other triple boot instructions call for varied processes, I'm wondering if any one process has worked for anyone with this specific build or if any problems were encountered in the process. I don't particularly want to use OS X but I need it for a class next semester.
>>52111531
X220 get this one >>52111782
>>52113468
These seem to be rare or something. Checking both newegg and Amazon, I can't really find and fhd one
>>52113516
you forgot the important one
http://lifehacker.com/5698205/how-to-triple-boot-your-hackintosh-with-windows-and-linux
going thru it as well right now (ok, not right now, I'm stalling like shit, it could be done alredy but...)
>>52113515
no.
Which is the thinkpad with that dual monitor thing? Like a second screen that pulls out from the side? My stepmom wants one, and I'm thinking to get it for her.
>>52113516
Why not run windows and OSX of a virtual machine like kvm?
>>52113664
It's the W700ds. It's also absurdly expensive.
>>52113717
Thanks. Never mind then
>>52113664
They're uh, a bit more expensive than the X220/T420's we usually discuss round here. How's your bank account doing?
W700ds - core 2 duo (*old*)
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2047675.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.Xw700ds.TRS0&_nkw=w700ds&_sacat=0
W701ds - couldn't even find one for sale on ebay. Last I heard they were ~$1500
>>52113664
Some son of a bitch scored a W701ds for $250
I'm still mad
>>52113912
shit. I would have loved one of those!
>>52106413
>Thinkpad x301 chassis
>ditch the optical drive for more battery
>The new chiclet keyboard in old layout
>A decent screen
>new spec
>Battery that lasts more than 8 hours
Please this is all I want.
>>52113626
Yes I did. Thank you. So for future reference I can boot windoze and linux on the same drive and OS X on a different drive for the simplest method.
Otherwise Follow Hackintosh install instructions then the guide you provided.
For clarification a few questions:
1. The traditional sata drive is the faster of the two drives yes? For some reason I got it into my head that the msata was the faster in the x220
2. Can I do the additional linux partitions using this method? I have a fat drive that needs to have some mint arch gentoo and other lovely distros all up in that ass.
3. Are there any specific issues with whitelisting or other shits not covered in any of the above tutorials regarding the x220?
Thanks much
>>52113670
I tried this, feels cumbersome on this build. With a current desktop this would be a no brainer.
What Thinkpad would you recommend for a stepmom? Or perhaps a different business laptop?
>>52106347
>exactly like my x200 but with:
>modern i5
>iris pro graphics
>16:10 IPS, all models
>"lenovo" appears nowhere on the laptop, except on the serial/underside label as necessary
>dedicated thinklight, lcd brightness buttons
>Vt-d, Vt-x all models
>at least 1 USB 3.0
>Mini-DP instead of or in addition to VGA
>NO touchscreen variants, especially not with stylus (scratches on used models)
Maybes:
>>1280x800, 1600x1000, 1920x1200 screen variants, easily swappable
>stereo speakers above LCD
>backlit keyboard option
>a (tiny) touchpad like x201 so normies buy it and I can get it cheap later
Moonshots:
>Intel removes TPM etc NSAware, full libreboot compatibility
>available aluminum/titanium/magnesium case?
Really just a new motherboard I could put in my X200 would be pretty cash. Even just a 3rd gen i5/HD4000 would be pretty sweet, Iris/Iris Pro would be icing on the cake.
>>52114081
1. mSata is sataII regular is sataIII, but really, the only difference is sequential read and write, so unless you oftrn do hibernation on your 16GB ram machine there is no difference, no seek time and lots of IOPS are defined by drive you choose, not slots (also I'm pretty pissed at anybody, especialy on /g/ for recommending samsung especially ssds especially after that firmware scandal that was here few months ago, I just do not trust them)
2. not sure, not there yet, but I'd say that yes ,why not? It seems only logical that it should work since you have to set up lot of shit manually
3. most should be covered but yeah, get newest unlocked bios mod and new wifi card, recommending DW1510, got cheapest of ebay (actually two of them) and got no problem so far, you don't need drivers even for windows (except ebay said new and they didn't look like that, oh well not broken - not fixing)
>>52114151
For a stepmom trying to get in your pants, the mandatory fully specced t420. High resolution model.
For a normal stepmom, the same but the higher resolution panel could lead to conflict.
For a grandpa the W701DS.
For a dog the x220t with bark recognition software. Be sure to replace the palmrest with the paw-print reading one.
For a niece that just got braces I would suggest a T410, she will surely appreciate the 16:10 pre consumerist-america aspect ratio.
>>52106506
This setup died 4 days after this picture was taken.
>>52114276
>tfw have had a t410 for years now, and didn't even appreciate the 16:10 aspect ratio
fug, better sell this and get a macbook or some shit
>>52114386
looks retarded, no surprise there.
>>52114276
Nah, when I say stepmom I mean the mother of my childhood friend who is letting me rent a room in her house while I work on getting into the Air Force who happens to like my old ass T420 with a fading "A" key and would like a computer she can take with her on business trips because her consumer level Dell Inspiron laptop hinge is starting to fail
Also, her husband is giving me a '96 Ford F150 that runs like a champ and has the Ford engine that refuses to die (5.0L V8, damn things won't die. The frame bends and the sheet metal rusts on those things before the engines fail)
Ayy. Canadian bislap user here. Bought a used Dell Latitude 6420 a few months ago, shit was cash, but now the battery won't charge past 10%, charger only works at one angle and the whole thing has gone tits up. Suggestions of where to get a new charger and battery? Doesn't have to be the same place, so long as I can get working parts.
>>52114905
BTW, I bought it from Dell Refurbished Services in Class A condition for about $350 all in. Lemme know if more specs are needed, just want to be able to use this thing properly again.
>>52114397
Why are you planning to downgrade?
>>52114779
Well then give another Tblazeit to her. If is not an NMB keyboard then get one for her as that is the best keyboard available.
T450, T450s or X1 first gen? Can't make up my mind. Will use mostly for programming/messing around on linux, and media consomption (movies)
>>52114920
ebay? The battery was probably used to the max so just get an OEM one.
The charger could be fixed, just sever the tip and solder a new cable that will connect the tip to the brick.
>>52114979
How do I make sure I'm buying a real OEM battery and not some bullshit scrapped from another laptop? I found some on Amazon but it seems the company is one of many owned by one guy thay has a habit of selling shit and never sending it, not accepting returns etc.
>>52114979
And on another note - I was thinking of getting a new 9cell from Dell's parts site, but they charge about $150 for just the battery, and another $80 for the charger.
>>52115050
Get a generic charger, it won't make a difference (it will probably weigh less). My thinkpad came with an aftermarket charger and it works wonders.
As for the battery just get that new one, but $150 is way too much... even lenovo charges less for the 9 cell. Some anon said that Anker's are alright quality wise; they will have less capacity than an original one.
>>52115086
I mean, I found some 9 cell supposedly OEM batteries on Amazon for about $45, but it's kinda sketchy. Not sure I wanna drop $60+ for a possibly not OEM battery. Is it often worth the gamble to try something random from Ebay or Amazon or whatever or should I find a proper name brand?
>>52115032
>How do I make sure I'm buying a real OEM battery and not some bullshit scrapped from another laptop?
buy directly from the OEM ya dingus
>>52115185
If the amazon product page is not from Dell then it is a "OEM compatible", meaning it will fit but it has lower capacity and quality.
I wish it would be easy to rebuild the batteries, well it is but apparently if you desolder the older cells the chip goes kaput. Has anyone here rebuilt a modern thinkpad battery?
>>52114973
T450s, the 1st gen x1 had a terrible screen and terrible battery life. And it was heavy as fuck for what it advertise itself as.
>>52115207
So buy the shit from Dell? They charge $150 for a 9 cell battery, and $135 for a 6 cell. Bunch of thieves they are.
i5-2520M up to 3220M or i7-3530M, Intel HD 4000 (don't care about discrete unless it works with Linux unlike nVIDIA), 1600x900 with GOOD sRGB-- does this laptop exist? Is T430's display really that bad (because its non-nVIDIA version seems perfect otherwise)? My budget is £250 ($370).
>>52115302
Good sRGB is only available in 1080p panels.
>>52115207
>>52115264
>>52115086
OK, how about this? Some company called Battpit. Would any of you trust it?
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA98E3AT0634&cm_re=T54FJ-_-9SIA98E3AT0634-_-Product
Or how about this, an LB1 battery?
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=16J-000D-01WK2&cm_re=T54FJ-_-16J-000D-01WK2-_-Product
Pls halp /g/, going back to school in a week and I'm fucked if I can't get this shit replaced.
>>52114929
Got it.
Though, T420 or T520? Her Insprion happens to be a 17' model with the full keyboard+numpad... Would the W520 be a better choice?
>>52115381
W isoverkill, just teach her about the numlock and give her the tblazeit. I had a 17" Dell and while good screen, unusable on the go.
>>52115377
Judge by reviews or search in a Dell forum, that's your best bet.
Or just get the OEM one, if you get a shit one you will be more than happy to pay $150 for a good battery. Just set a charge threshold that will prolong the life of it and it will last quite the few years with heavy use.
>>52115328
OK, I misread W520 as having 95% sRGB at 1600x900 but it goes up to 1080p. By good I now just mean not abysmal, and the display not too dim. Anything?
is it worth going with chink batteries for a third of the price?
>>52113997
>wanting a chiclet keyboard
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>52115618
Wondering the same myself. If you buy once from Amazon, Newegg or somewhere with a 30day guarantee and a 1 year warranty (do your research, sometimes they add crap like that they will only replace 100% dead batteries etc. etc. to scam people out of using their warranties)
>>52113031
>carbon fiber and rollcage
>trackpoint
>consumer
>>52115185
Replacement batteries tend to come in 3 kinds:
1. $10-$25 chinkshit. Label conspicuously the manufacturer logo ("DELL", "LENOVO" etc). Typically 60-80% OEM capacity, sometimes good lifetime sometimes shit. Can be subdivided into class 1a: total shit - they didn't even bother trying with the label or class 1b: kinda ok - tried to copy the label but just left a blank space where the OEM name should be or at least made an effort at a 'trustworthy' label.
2. $25-$50 "NEW GENUINE OEM" battery. Either authentic (ghost shift maybe) or damn good fakes. Label looks basically identical to OEM, with only irregularities being additional stickers or barcodes.
3. $$$ direct OEM. Guaranteed Quality^tm, and god damn you're paying for it.
Take your battery out, and look at the label on it. Find the cheapest battery you can find on ebay that has that exact label. Usually I search "$model battery" and then ctrl-F "genuine".
I got burned (figuratively) on a class 1a $15 chinkshit 9-cell, something's weird with the ACPI and it won't boot the computer sometimes. Decent success with a $25 class 1b battery, totally works just has 48 W*h compared to the 56 W*h OEM. Had complete success with a $40 class 2 9-cell, it's either authentic or a good enough fake as to be indistinguishable.
First thing you should do is runcat /sys/class/power_supply/BAT0/ueventand verify that ENERGY_FULL_DESIGN and ENERGY_FULL match what you're expecting.
>>52115773
You forgot 2a/3a which is legit genuine but NOS that's already a year to 2 or 3 years old. Max capacity not quite lvl 3 but not shit like 1 or probably fake like 2.
>>52114266
Thanks again sir.
>>52115720
And yet, has a normie keyboard.
>>52115957
Normie yet better than literally everything other than old thinkpads
Can HD 3000 play 1080p YouTube without lag? What about 2 at the same time? The only reason I want T430 not T420 is GPU. CPU is too similar to make enough dif.
>>52115979
So you concede that old thinkpads are superior.
My work here is done.
>>52112631
I got a T450s for 650
>1080p
>i5 5200u
>4GB(had another 8 gb stick)
>256 SSD
>>52109436
I have one, and I thought it would me too, but it feels as sturdy as any other hinge I've felt.
Just found this ad on craigslist, how do I figure out which model it is. He wants $60, is it a good buy?
>Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo T5250 1.5 GHz
>Screen Size: 15.4"
>Memory: 2 Gb
>Hard Drive: 120 GB
>Optical Drive: DVD-RW
>Stereo Speakers, Gigabit Ethernet, WiFi 802.11a/b/g
>Runs Windows 7 trial. Needs a new battery. Charger is included. As is.
>>52116108
That's a hell of a deal.
hey /g/ents
I have a T61 that I've been using for a few years that I upgraded to 1920x1200. I'm considering running something a little more modern (mostly just for shit and giggles, the upgraded T61 is actually really snappy)
Anyway, is there a more contemporary thinkpad that runs as high or higher resolution?
are these requirements capable of being 300$ or under?
Needed:
-good battery life
-smooth running high quality movie files
-having programs like word/music program/internet all open and running fine
wanted:
-i dont want a gaming laptop, but id want to run older games like Diablo 2, roller coaster tycoon, old rpg games etc.
-would be nice if it could run newer indie small games like this: (Ghostsong) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eujm3ZQWjdk
never had a laptop before but want one to start learning a linux OS with
>>52117449
T60
Condition looks like it's a 4/10. Missing trackpoint, keycaps look worn as hell.
>>52117478
Without going into shitty *30 and higher, W700/1, T510, T500.
I am not kidding. Lelnovo thinkpads before *30 have shit res.
>>52117449
no its not a good buy
>>52117491
Is there a reference chart or website that shows the available resolutions? I can dig it up myself but if you know it off the top of your head I'd appreciate it.
>>52117506
Nevermind its on thinkwiki
Thanks for the response, but "*30" isnt clear. Havent spent too much time on g in a while
>>52117518
*30 as in X230, T430, W530, etc.
And yes there is a sort of reference chart.
http://yttrium-tyclief.github.io/guides/Thinkpads/wseries.html
>>52117491
its not a t60, unless the t60 came in 15.4 inch
>>52117449
i wouldnt buy a 15.4 inch in general, plus the battery will hold half an hour charge at most. and yeah no trackpoint. I've read in these even the 14.1" t60 is a shit laptop, with terrible resolution. the only old school laptops worth buying are the t61p or something like that. me personally I'm a fan of the X series.
>>52117544
>its not a t60, unless the t60 came in 15.4 inch
It did.
>>52117482
You should be able to get a spec'd out T420 with that price point that should fulfil both needs and wants
>>52117544
This guy has no fucking clue in general
>>52113515
im thinking of getting a W520. quad core, 8gb ram, 250gb ssd and 320gb hdd in the bay, 1080p, all in good condition for £250.
do you or anyone know how the displays are on the W520? I have a T420 and the display is shit. I have heard the W520 is decent though? Also IPS quality even though it is a TN.
>>52118001
iirc they're usually 1080p panels and AUO panels are supposedly very good quality. Not IPS but better than a T420's
Anyone know if the X230's bluetooth 4.0 module supports APTX?
I have it hooked up to my receiver via bluetooth and it sound surprisingly good.
tried to boot up a 600e i wanna play some old games with, got this. i tried changing some battery years ago after googling those errors but couldn't get it to work, any ideas?
X201 battery died. Should I get a new battery or a X220?
I have a question;
I have a yoga classic, the trackpad is shit but I was used to it. I used an x230 tablet for a month and now can't get used to the Yoga's shit trackpad, anyone know if it is possible to remove the trackpad from a yoga 12 and put it in a yoga classic?
>>52118001
I calibrated the TN on my X230 and it isn't half bad (not as good as my IIyama MVA panel though).
>>52118366
How did you do it? Do you have a Spider III or something?
>>52115663
Yeah because I'm not a hypocritical retard that judges solely on aesthetic. Fuck you autists, you shit on people that buy macs because you claim they buy them just for the look but you do the same shit with thinkpads. Other than the layout, the new keyboard are functionally superior to the old ones.
Seriously, go kill yourself. People like you are what's really killing the thinkpad.
>>52118637
Are you serious? Thinkpads are not pretty, nor are they meant to be.
My girlfriend for example thinks they are ugly as fuck, yet still uses a t430 and praises the machine. This coming from someone who knows next tonothing regarding tech.
>>52118682
Re-read that anons post.
He was complaining about a guy complaining about the look of the new chiclet keycaps when they are superior in design to the old ones (larger key caps, easier to feel etc).
>>52117449
Looks to be a t400. $60 appears to be on target for that model. if it has 1440x900 then it's worth the $60.
>>52118703
The new keyboards feel better than the "old" ones, but have worse layout. The big delete and escape keys and the extra row was really nice to have.
It depends on what you prefer, I have a x230 and have zero complaints about the keyboard.
Now, comparing the chiclet and "old style" keyboards with the OLD keyboards, the old ones are so much better feeling, while having the classic layout. Best of both worlds.
>>52118754
T420 layout + chiclet keycaps
why the fuck didn't they do this to modernise the look without triggering all the autists i will never know
>>52118773
The old layout occupies more space. If you haven't noticed, they simplified the chiclet keyboard further, removing the dedicated volume and microphone keys and the thinkvantage button to shave even more vertical space.
>>52118682
>>52118754
Can you please read before you post. Nothing you've said adds anything new to the conversation.
>>52118773
I've been holding onto my x301 for a couple years now. If Lenovo doesn't deliver on the anniversity Thinkpad I'll probably move onto another brand.
>>52118754
>The new keyboards feel better than the "old" ones
not to me but new keyboard are still better than just about all laptop keyboards out there
>>52118795
>shave even more vertical space
it's not like they are lacking in space
thank you so much tpg, I bought an x220 an ssd and installed antergos(mate) and this is comfy as fuck I can now torrent anime and watch it without leaving my sleeping bag
>>52118820
They need space if they want to keep growing the trackpad.
>>52118795
And for what reason ?
They didn't change the dimensions of the laptops, and they could still fit a 16:10 screen instead of the shitty 16:9 ones.
>>52118845
>>52118941
JUST
FUCK
MY
SHIT
UP
>>52118941
You forgot the apple logo on it
>>52118940
>space for 16:10
Sure, if they manage to find enough 16:10 screens. Apple has their hands all over most of those panels. That's the problem with the reto thinkpad delays too, they can't find enough 16:10 panels.
>and for what reason
Because the normies like big trackpads.
>>52118966
>>52118969
Lenovo can't innovate, Apple did this years ago.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BnLbv6QYcA
>>52118754
The new keyboards feel better than any chiclet keyboard I've ever used, that's no lie. There is plenty of feedback, and it feels good.
The problem with it is I hate the spacing between the keys, and the fucking layout is atrocious. I like the old keyboard because it feels just like typing on a desktop keyboard to me. Playing vidya is also much easier on it because you don't have to stretch your hand further.
It's really just a useless trend hop because Apple did it. Nobody (and I mean nobody) can pretend that it was for any other reason. Man hours went in to redesigning this keyboard that had no reason to be redesigned. For what, because you might catch a few people with the NEW thinkpad look?
The 21st century has been the death of the niche market concept. You had businesses and people who would loyally purchase your product because nobody else offered it. That's why Dell's latitude and precision line has become popular, it has been picking up where Lenovo left off and decided "you know, we need another consumer brand of laptop in our lineup"
To be honest, there is literally no reason they can't build a chasis that can accommodate either style of keyboard and offer them both as an option. If they wanted to make a smart business decision, that would be it.
>>52106347
x220 with windows 10, trackpoint issues, middle click new tab function dosnt work ootb with drivers from windows update, setting to middle click in driver settings does nothing, switch to ultranav drivers from lenovos site, still same, now using AHK script for middle click functionality, works okayish, but scrolling with trackpoint is a laggy mess ;-;
pls help.
>>52106413
X300 everything with a better battery and cpu and no cd player
>>52119031
>I hate the spacing between the keys
if you removed the sloping edges in the previous keys had and just had flat sides the spacing would be the same?
So does anyone here use the fingerprint swipey thing? How well does it work?
>>52119045
Werk for me.
Standard drivers that win10 automatically installed.
>>52119045
install gentoo
>>52119072
shit
>>52106413
>X220T as a base
>maybe make it a tad thinner and lighter (if possible without sacking any features, fucker is heavy as fuck)
>16:10 1080p IPS
>9 cell battery option
>expand the screen further to be larger but with thinner bezels
>MUCH MORE ACCURATE PEN JESUS
Literally all I want. Sadly, I don't think we will ever get a tablet style thinkpad again. Tablet PC's are dead in a time period where the technology is better.
>>52119072
Okay, not that great though. The new touch sensors on the P50/P70 looks a lot better.
Swipe sensors have always been finnicky.
>>52118356
Can anyone help me?
>>52119109
how the fuck is 1920x1080 16:10
>>52119118
Jew magic anon :^)
I meant 1920 x 1200 but I'm lazy and just woke up.
my x220 in brand new condition... i5, 2520 (2.5ghz), 8gb, IPS, 120 mSata, 320GB hdd, webcam, finger print, 9 cell (about 2.5 hours) for $200 US bones.
>>52119109
>16:10
>1080p
what?
>>52119078
can you show me a scrot of your settings page please, pic related is mine
>>52107174
I was thinking about getting a dock for my x220 for while it's at home. Seeing what you said is this a bsd idea? What dock would I be looking at (theres a fuckton on ebay)
>>52106413
x220
>>52119160
that 9cell must be around 30% or something ;-; get a new one.
>>52119045
use tp middle instead of that script.
>http://users.v-lo.krakow.pl/~mwrobel/programs/tpmiddle.html
>>52106413
>W520 as a base
>16:10 4k IPS screen for glorified 1920x1200
>9 cell + slice battery
>Ultrabay battery
>Based i7 QM CPU
>Some kind of decent-ish dGPU
You did say dream thinkpad.
>tfw it will never happen
>>52119200
using this now, much better, but the scrolling is still a super laggy mess... ;-; but thanks for this!
>>52119213
thanks for scrot, completely different driver to what i have by the looks of it, can you show me your version info so i can get that same driver?
>>52119193
yeah i probably need a new one... but don't have the money right now... still fine for now as I don't use it for a long time, typically at night while watching tv so this is adequate for now.
>>52119232
The win10 update comes with a realtek thing that runs on the background.
It's caled FMAPP.exe.
Kill the fucker, it makes no difference to the audio. See if the lag stops.
Also, stop it from being run on boot.
where do I get a "new" battery for my thinkpad? do I just use ebay and hope I don't get scammed?
>>52119232
If you disable the trackpad (like I did) on the BIOS, win10 installs the driver I have. If you have trackpad enabled, it will install the ultranav driver (the one you have).
How viable is to rebuild a battery? I mean recent thinkpad's battery such as the i-core series.
Some tripfag said that if you disconnect the old batteries the whole chip goes kaput.
>>52119261
oh yes, it does run at boot, will disable now.
>>52119284
So, is the lag gone?
>>52119278
oh ;-; i disabled it in the touchpad settings, guess if i disable touchpad from bios then uninstall driver, then check for updates, i should get your driver.
>>52119318
nope ;-;
thing is, if i scroll with two finger tap, its fine, i think its the driver im using, will switch my driver now.
Who else /comfy/ here ?
>>52118816
>another brand
Like what? For medium-light weight machines the thinkpad is still king. Only real competition on the workstation front is dell precision, but even they got BTFO by the P series
>>52119421
How is the screen on the T520? Is that the 1080p panel? I heard it is really good, like almost IPS good. Is it?
>>52119193
>your dream laptop has 1366x768
>>52119216
P50 is literally that minus the slice
>>52106413
T420s as base
IPS FHD screen
9 cell battery + 6 cell in ultratray
M.2/PCIe/NVMe for OS drive
1TB 2.5" HDD for storage
3 USB 3.0 super speed ports
HDMI or Display Port out
Backlit keyboard
>>52119421
Love this machine
>>52119045
Wallpaper pls?
>>52119601
meh, portable computer dosnt need 4k
>>52119677
pic related, set to tiling.
Ok boys,
I've finally got around to get NixOS onto my SDCard. Couldn't be bothered to search for my USB Drive and had an adapt0r and a raspi microsd card laying around.
Currently putting NixOS onto SD, will reboot soon. Wish me luck. I hope everything works as fine as it should.
>>52119805
Turns out that ThinkPad can't into boot from SD. Should've known. It's almost 2016 dammit.
Well found USB and extracting right now. Hopefully this works better.
>>52119662
So I'm tinkering around in Ubuntu MATE on that desktop that is in the background
Installing KDE desktop on top of MATE cause I want to play with it as well
It has a 1.86GHz Core2Duo, 1GB of RAM (2 512MB sticks), and a small ass 160GB spinning rust disk that I think is IDE.
Can this rust bucket run KDE for it's life?
>>52119700
No but it needs fhd. Any decent machine needs near that
>>52119660
>back-lit keyboard
SOILED IT
