Headphone General - /HPG/ - Detention for 4 Years Edition
>Requesting purchase advice:
http://pastebin.com/hjHkKDyM
>/g/ wiki headphone FAQ:
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php?title=Headphones
>Previous thread:
http://boards.4chan.org/g/thread/52093312/
>>52102882
>cold feet and t90s on the head
Must be a horrible experience.
Need a set of open cans for listening to movies and tv because my mom always yells at me that its way too loud and too much screaming / gunfire and she sleeps above me and I have a sub down here. What do I get? Thinking of AD500x, AD700x, or AD900x. Need comfy.
>>52103003
nobass, so you're not going to get the kind of impact you get with your sub. I usually use a 558 for movies/streams or my x2 if it has boom boom explosions or lots of music.
>>52103027
558 has really poor build quality, i tried it at a store. x2 has too much clamp they say.
Seeko's measurement of Nexus 6P's audio output. What is up with that low pass filter?
>>52103003
Move out.
>>52102882
>Cheat pregnant girlfriend with some drug slut in a bar.
>Tell her because it's Christmas expecting her to take it with some Santa spirit.
>Bitch goes crazy, gets locked into our room
>Enters gorilla mode and starts breaking everything in our/my room.
>I get into the coach and fall asleep.
>Wake up
>Everything it's a mess.
>Laptop pieces here and there, her clothes are gone.
>Looks like a technologic diarrhea all over the floor.
>"WTF!"
>Find out she broke my headphones, laptop, main computer and my phone it's missing, probably broken already, tried to call, nothing.
>Whatever I'll tell my friends to help me sue her ass and get her homeless.
So I'm looking for a new headset, $500-$600 price tag, are the 650HD or momentum 2.0 any good?
>>52103046
>They say
You can always stretch the headband if the clamp wasn't to your liking.
>>52103071
I requested comfy mate. Thats why I mentioned ad500x-900x. What about this he400i? Is it comfy?
>>52103070
HE400i + O2
>>52103070
Wait who did this, your girlfriend or that drug slut?
Hey /g/, I'm looking for a nice pair of cans I can use at work. I already listen to FLAC files or 320kbps MP3 files. Here's my version of the template:
>Budget
up to $600 firm. Would prefer $500 or less
>Location
Seattle
>Source
Cell phone (w/amp) and laptop with DAC
>Preferred type of headphone
Overear
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Unimportant. The headphones usually come off every half hour or so anyway. I wear glasses though, so that might be a factor
>Preferred tonal balance
Flat
>Preferred music
Math Rock, Emo Rock, and just rock in general. I also listen to some hiphop and classical music though.
>Past headphones
Sennheiser Momentums and Sennheiser HD 598s.
Thanks for the help
>>52103046
you can't "try" build quality at a store. sure it's made from plastic but it holds up because the design doesn't put strain on a breakable part. there are plenty of headphones that "feel" more study but put strain on a single part that if broken will fuck the headphones permanently. besides they're not for portable use, at your desk they should suffer no damage. x2 doesn't have excessive clamp unless your head is fucking huge. if anything it has too little clamp as one poster was complaining about a while ago. the only comfort flaw is that the headband is a bit tight, but it doesn't cause a hot spot. otherwise they're as comfortable as the 558, so very.
>>52103117
exgf
>>52103118
Why not momentum 2.0?
>>52103128
Oh. Now it makes sense.
>>52103070
>Cheat pregnant girlfriend with some drug slut in a bar.
Really?
>>52102882
That chair looks comfy as fuck, where can you get it?
>>52103118
there's not really that many high price closed headphones
>>52103118
pm3
>>52103128
Kick her in the guts before kicking her out, unless you're looking forward to pay alimoneys.
>>52103178
Yeah I'm sure prison is better
Okay, so I'm looking for cheap headphones/earphones
>£10 - £25 (UK)
>Bassy as possible
>Closed noise cancel, will use on the commute
>Preferred music: Hip-hop, R&B, K-Pop, Rap, Funk, anything that sounds good
>Using for a sony phone
>Don't care about comfort
>>52103142
I didn't like the momentums as much as I thought I would. But they're the on ear versions.
>>52103170
That's just my price limit though. ANything under that is fine.
>>52103172
Gonna check these out, thanks! How do thery compare to the momentum 2.0 someone suggested?
>>52103220
On-ear isn't good m8. Try the over-ear one. Also using pm-3 at works isn't too viable I guess.
>>52103178
One of her friends told me that she has been drinking, so hopefully she gets a natural abortion.
>>52103238
I'll check those out. I hear the momentums are more warm though. I'm a programmer so a lot of my day is just sitting at a desk, so mobility isn't an issue. Saying that, what makes the pm3 bad for work? I was also looking at the EL-8.
>>52102882
he needs a therapist chair after listening to t90s
I want to buy some headphones for my mom.
My mom dislikes IEM's and claims they keep falling out of her ears, but since she's planning to wear the headphones on the train etc. it would be nice if they weren't too gigantic and unwieldy.
She is mainly going to use them for her phone.
I'm not too sure what the budget is since I don't want to buy cheap shit that breaks after a week, but she probably isn't too keen on the highest audio quality and so on.
please help
>>52103213
For noise cancelling at that price point you're better off with earphones. The Creative EP 630 are great for that, I use mine on the tube and the noise cancelling is pretty good. They sound good with all types of music too.
>>52103118
>and laptop with DAC
>laptop
>with DAC
>with
>DAC
>>52103304
>it would be nice if they weren't too gigantic and unwieldy.
would you/she prefer foldable headphones?
>>52103288
Well, for first if you want planar sound, Oppo isn't that good for bass extension. You can try Audeze for planar bass. But its adviseable to try it by yourself about EL-8, because its a little dark. Momentum 2.0 sound little mid-centric, but its really smooth one. You can always try ATH-MSR7 for fairly neutral sounds too.
>>52103304
hd518
>>52103304
Can't go wrong with the Sony MDR-7506 or the MDR V6. They last forever, are very comfy, look like standard studio headphones so not too unwieldy.
>>52103240
Well, back to square one I guess.
>>52103363
nice b8 m8 :^)
>>52103369
I tried the EL-8s and they sound amazing, but for everyday use, I've heard the pm3s are better. I'll check out the ATH-MSR7 and see if my local store has a momentum 2.0 to give it a fair review.
>>52103383
>open headphones
>public transport
>>52103342
>>52103342
I was afraid I was being a bit too cheap but I'll give your suggestion a look.
>>52103387
Forgot to mention the AKG K451/K452 which are also good. They are foldable and quite small, and sit on the ear instead of over it. Not as comfortable for long periods of time but pretty durable, are more discreet, and cheaper. Similar deal with the AKG Y50s.
>>52103304
just introduce your mother to foam tips
high isolation that block out transportation noise and when properly fitted they should never fall out of your ear
>>52103299
t90's are great
>>52103418
theyre only half=open :v)
>>52103409
>Cell phone (w/amp)
>phone
>phone with amp
>amp in a phone
>phone amp
>amp
>phone
>>52103409
Well, the problem in Audeze compared to pm-3 isn't durability. But how Audeze QC outchink'd the Oppo itself. I've heard from authorized distributor in my country that 25% of its sold product are busted within a year.
>>52103383
>hd518
>>52103409
>I tried the EL-8s and they sound amazing
>>52103427
>AKG K451/K452 which are also good
>>52103441
>t90's are great
Can anyone give any feedback or info about the Sennheiser HD 518? I was thinking of getting them since they are very cheap at Argos atm, and to have an alternative to my ATH-M30Xs.
Should I buy them? I listen mainly to Hip-Hop, Jazz and Rock. I like bass but not overpowering.
>>52103240
Have you heard the DBA-02 Mk II? How's your impression?
>>52103500
Pic related
>>52103500
Why not. ATH below m40x are redeemed garbage in general.
>>52103194
Actually, 1 year in prison might be less worse than paying 18 years of child support.
>>52103162
Wondering the same thing.
>>52103500
It literally fits your listed needs perfectly
do mind they are of open design meaning to isolation
>Wait for Newegg flash sale
>Flash sale brings the shitty Sony headphones down to the same price as Amazon
>They're refurbished.
Mediocre.
>>52103426
Yeah they are quite cheap but as far as budget headphones go, their noise cancelling is one of the best. If you can save up a little more the AKG K451's are £40 and are also pretty good.
The Shure SE21s are even better but £70.
Washed my x2 pads and holy fuck these thing never dry
>>52103527
It's the same thing but smaller. People seem to fit mk2 a bit better.
What's the curiosity for?
>>52103604
If it's just one year it's fine, though it all would depend on your situation
If he can spend 500 bucks on a headset I would still suggest 18 years of child support to avoid being a worthless fuckboy and having that "I've been in prison" tag behind your back.
I am pretty satisfied now. Gifting the HD700 to my nephew and gifting my X2 to my brother. Will just chuck the e6 at someone.
>>52103304
I just got a pair of Philips SHL3165 yesterday.
Build quality seems all right. It's not particularly impressive, but it doesn't have have me worried that they'll break on me out of nowhere.
They're pretty comfortable, even with my thin as fuck glasses. It might have been better if there was some kind of cushion/pad on the headband, but since they're adjustable and quite light it's not uncomfortable even without padding.
Sound is nice and clear, though I wish they were a little more bassy but that's just me. Bass is there and it's pretty decent, just not quite as punchy as I'd like. Mids and highs are quite good.
Dunno what /g/ thinks of these headphones, but so far I'd recommend them personally. I don't really have a lot to compare to, so I don't know how good or bad they are compared to others.
>>52103708
I'm tied between the creatice and akg headphones, but I'm most likely gonna go for the creatives. Money ain't a problem but since it's just for my phone I thought I'd be a bit stingy.
Also, do you have any more suggestions for non in-ear earphones around that price with the criteria I posted?
>>52103724
I'm this anon >>52102481
Just curious considering mk2 make into |Joker| thl in 2014. And still try to satisfied my portable setup.
>>52103784
Changed my mind. I need something for my commute to work.
>Budget
$1000>
>Location
USA
>Source
Nexus 5x
>Preferred type of headphone
IEM/earbud
>Open or closed
Is this even an option for these?
>Comfort level
I would prefer my ears not to hurt, but quality is more important than comfort.
>Preferred tonal balance
I don't care.
>Preferred music
See >>52103784 , I listen to a wide range of things.
>Past headphones
Again, see >>52103784
>>52103942
Cypherlabs C6.
Hello
>>52103942
I guess I'll shill for JH since I like my Angies a lot, especially if you can fin one for below 1k.
Got some bonus money to burn
>100-150
>US
>PC and Android Phone
>Full Sized (bluetooth?)
>closed
>All day comfort
>Mainly gaming, but not to interested in gaming headsets since I would also use these at work for listening to music or just general tuning out. Figure I can just add a mic to it (pic related).
>>52103942
>Is this even an option for these?
Yes.
Do tell what you think of current headphones.
>>52103383
>>52103387
>>52103427
>>52103786
Thanks a lot for the recommendations!
I will look into all of those
>>52103366
I believe she has a purse to put them in so folding is not necessary if the headphones are good
>>52103431
Thanks anon I hadn't thought of that at all, I'll try to see if those work better
Looking for a pair of Hi-Fi studio monitors with good bass and treble extension with minimal colouration.
>Budget
$2000 firm including amp
>Location
L O N D O N
>Source
dedicated DAC
>Preferred type of headphone
Full size
>Open or closed
Open
>Comfort
Not an issue
>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral
>Preferred music
Electronica & Jazz mainly.
>Past headphones
Sony MDR VDJ700, Shure SE535, Grado RS1i.
No Mid-fi memeshit. Thanks for the help
>>52104223
LCD-X.
>>52104223
Neutral headphones? Good luck.
Monitors have a serious advantage in being pre-equalized, and even they have serious real world coloration.
>>52103840
>mk2
They dropped that to make way for the upcoming mk3.
Joker also has a soft spot for v-shape IEMs.
Anyone else here get moist ears when using on-ear headphones?
How do i combat this? buy over-the-ear headphones that aren't closed?
>>52104276
Stop being such a fat shit. Or buy velour earpads.
>>52104148
you literally answered your own question, look in your image
>>52104270
Dunno man, I can't find any decent IEM reviewer other than |Joker| to know other soft spot. IEM didn't had many measurement for look compared to headphone too.
>>52104148
Pro 80 with HM5 pads, or HM5/XPT100
>>52103046
x2 too much clamp? no fucking way dude. you must have randomly talked to the dude with the fattest head on the planet
Which would be more comfortable, the Sennheiser 650 or Philips X2?
>>52104648
for extended wear the x2 because it has no clamp
>>52104648
im gonna say x2. memory foam, some people are very annoyed by phones with a cable to each driver, plus the x2's single cable is detachable.
that said, ive literally never heard any comfort complaint from 650 owners, though you do have the "snapheiser" meme. im sure the difference is minimal
>>52103471
Ah, I see. I'm currently leaning towards the pm3 currently. They look nice and all the reviews say they're extremely neutral and detailed, that and I want to try this planar headphones meme.
Are there any IEM's that don't break after a couple weeks/months of use?
I would like to avoid that thing where one side stops working
>>52104269
Objectively way more colored than the "mid-fi memeshit" anon didn't want.
>>52104756
From the reviews you said, I can said it'll be a bit bright like MSR-7. And if you want to feel planar meme, Audeze and Hifiman is to-go-headphone tbqh familia. And MSR-7 have its many choice of color. Especially the stylish red one.
>>52104838
have you ever bought any that were more than 15-20$?
>>52105082
I came to own a pair of Sennheiser IEM's at some point, they went for ~50 shekels and with those the right side stopped working
>>52104276
Yeah, just get non-on-ear headphones. Closed over-ears aren't sweaty even with leather, but on-ears always make my ears sweaty. I think it's the lack of ventilation/air space.
>>52103829
If it were me, I would spend a little more and buy some much higher quality headphones - you'll see a big improvement in £15 headphones to £40, especially over-ears. The Sony MDR V55s are good, with strong bass, at ~£40. ATH-M30X have weaker bass but better build quality at a similar price.
However there are still some good picks at around £25. I would go with the JVC HA-RX700 which is £5 over budget (Amazon) but has stong bass and is pretty decent all-round. There's also the lower model, the HA-RX500 which is worse but cheaper, around £15.
>>52104870
I don't find the msr7 that stylish, but the reviews on it seem really good. I like the el-8, when I tried them in a store, but /g/ seems to say they're not so good. And they're not flat, from what I've been told. I do like how they have decent bass though.
OldFart here. Everyone has their own taste, but I've been seeking Nirvana for 30+ years, thru cassette, mini-disc, and now SACD and Hi-res downloads (pls don't pull that Vynil is superior crap, SACD destroys ALL competitiors!). I HIGHLY recommend you start with a good source, and currently my Oppo HA-1 is the best I've ever heard. Balanced circuitry the whole way thru, 130 dB noise floor w/24 bit material, Balanced headphone output - U won't go back once U hear it. While Oppo makes a decent set of headphones that I own - the PM-1 - they're planar magnetic, and they have a unique sound, and I still don't think they sound as good as my reference BD DT-770s, 80 ohm, which I made fully balanced. Just an opinion. Rock on!
>>52104430
>|Joker|
He had a thing for NT6, and the various TWFK IEMs (CK10, DBA-02, VC1000), known for their somewhat treble peaky sound. Some of the other IEMs as well. At least he seems aware of his own taste.
Earphone measurements from Goldenears, Innerfidelity, Seeko, Rin Choi, Speakerphone, and a few others. The real problem is getting a CIEM measurement, properly done are rare.
Joker is the most prolific IEM reviewer, one of the most experienced, but keep his taste in mind.
A guy called my portable pursuits next level autism, but all I have right now are cheap IEMs plugged into a phone, about 5k+ dollars of gear later.
I gave up after running through dozens of sets, and listening to many other so-called TOTLs, over a hundred or so. I have no energy or desire to run through the hundreds more, thousands of other IEMs on the market. Parametric EQ was how I got the sound I wanted in the end.
Here are some separate catalogs of IEMs, neither is nearly complete, or may ever be. Try and say you've listened to them all.
>List of universal IEMs over 200
http://superbestaudiofriends.org/index.php?threads/list-of-universal-fit-in-ear-monitors-200.436/
>Chart of balanced armature IEMs and drive units used, Custom fit and Universal
http://www.head-fi.org/t/604851/
>>52105149
EL-8 aren't flat. But not everyone likes the flat/neutral sound. The thing /g/ recommended flat headphone is when you didn't like the sound signature. You can always EQ'd it to your liking to your preference. It sure needs an extra effort, but it'll be easier than buying headphones that are colored and EQ'd to your preference sound signature that sometimes you didn't even know by yourself. And yeah, its hard to find headphones that have good bass such as Audeze tbqh.
>>52105270
Did Parametric EQ have its apps on phone? How you fiddle with it until you get the sound you wanted?
>Budget
£70-130
>Location
UK/Poland
>Source
laptop (no amp or whatsoever)
>Preferred type of headphone
full-sized
>Open or closed
I have no experience with open headphones. I would prefer better sound. Would someone hear what I'm listening to 2 meters away?
>Comfort level
comfortable, long use
>Preferred tonal balance
I don't really know, I think I don't want them to be too bassy.
>Preferred music
A lot of different genres, though I'd like this kind of drumming to sound good:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmWjn2w8-VA&index=2&list=PL60846A16130E9CE1
>Past headphones
I've got some £40 headphones before. I was recently given Sennheiser MM 30i earphones, but I don't really like how they sound.
Ordered ER4-PT. Recommend me a good DAP. I just want it to be virtually noise free, low output impedance, solid construction, good battery life and expandable storage with a microSD card. No budget for now but I wont be going into A&K meme territory.
>>52105675
FiiO. X1, X3 2nd gen, X5 2nd gen. Whichever you want.
Did more research, looks like the 400i is fuckheavy and the pads get hot as hell. 370g. THREE HUNDRED AND SEVENTY GRAMS. Hot as hell pleather/velour earpads that will make anon sweat like crazy in the summer.
This is a meme, right?
>>52105775
Planar is a meme m8.
Why does /g/ hate bose?
>>52105811
Your not addressing the points I dug up, that its heavy as hell, hot as hell, and I'm going to sweat like crazy into the pads, making them stink like shit. Already in the summer months I ditch all headphones for IEMS, but now if I get the 400i I'll have money just sitting around for months at a time. Wont be able to even take them to a library which has AC to use because of the open back
>>52105883
Planar driver is always be heavier than dynamic driver.
Planar headphone can't use velour or the bass will be destroyed, which defeat the purpose of planar.
Also, Hifiman cutting corner by reduce the quality of its pads. Get Brainwavz pads if you want.
>>52105374
at a decent volume? yes theyll hear what youre listening to, even at a normal volume.
spend a few more bucks and get ath-msr7
>>52105363
Parametric EQ is something integrated into players and such. For Android, I know about Neutron player. iOS has many for sale in the app store. Onkyo had a player on both platforms, technically free, but I never got used it. Don't about Windows phone.
There is also Viper4Android, which has a much more advanced and powerful tool in the convolver. This is system wide and has parametric EQ as one of the things you can do with it, but it is somewhat processing intensive.
I think Apple had its own system wide PEQ solution, but it wasn't as powerful as a convolver. Don't remember too clearly.
How you control the curve depends on the program, it will either be a set of sliders or curve with points that you move into position. Use the peaking EQ to fill in recessed spots and chop down peaks where desired. Sine sweep to identify these spots more easily. Shelf EQ for broad and general adjustments above and below a certain frequency.
Feel free to ask more.
>>52105675
Zout barely matters for ER-4P/4S. ER-4 not so great sensitivity mean it is less susceptible to noise, especially with 4S adapter. A voltage divider would solve both.
Cowon Plenue D is an option, but not sold out of Korea yet. Half ohm impedance, lasting battery, expandable storage, decent finish.
>>52105883
It more about pressure distribution making for comfort, and neck strain ain't nothing. Who ever complained of the SR-009 being planar-tier heavy?
Except, LCD-4 cups would bounce around with more force with head movement, and that would be discomforting, especially when it fell off.
>>52105942
>Planar driver is always be heavier than dynamic driver.
No.
>Planar headphone can't use velour or the bass will be destroyed, which defeat the purpose of planar.
No.
>Also, Hifiman cutting corner by reduce the quality of its pads. Get Brainwavz pads if you want.
The point of the pads is that they are hybrid style pads.
>>52105835
Overpriced. They also have a reputation for being "crowd pleasers", which means they have a ton of bass and a ton of treble, but not much in between. Average Joe is impressed by a ton of bass, so he associates "Bose" with "quality" because of that and a ton of marketing. And to be fair, Average Joe tends to equate a ton of bass with quality because he believes sound without a lot of bass is bad quality.
There are exceptions to the rule, though. I've owned and sampled lots of headphones including some Bose models. Across the board, Bose certainly is overpriced but some of their headphones (i.e. the recent SoundTrue headphones) are fairly decent.
A lot of people, though, either associate Bose with "best quality" or "worst quality" and aren't willing to listen to the product.
>>52105225
how oldfart
Are pic related better than Soundmagic e10 [s]not memeing[/s], because I tried Beats and I'm not impressed.
I'm asking only because of sound quality
>>52106133
if you actually care, watch this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsxQxS0AdBY
>>52105969
I wouldn't mind spending a bit more. I don't like ath headphones that much for some stupid reason...
What do you thing about pic related? Or any other alternative, even above my price?
Still here waiting for a good sale on something that doesn't suck.
So these little fuckers just arrived from China after nearly a 2 month wait.
I bough them for shits and giggles, $12USD, didn't expect much of anything really.
They actually sound really damn good. I've never tried Piston's but I don't know if I would even bother with those and all their fakes after hearing these. I'm only using the balanced nozzle, no clue what the bass nozzle sounds like nor do I care, these have a really clean sound with a surprising amount of detail.
Any questions let me know.
>>52103118
>emo rock
>flac
hahahahahahahahaha
>>52106250
those are quite worse quality wise. going to be a lot brighter (when the msr7 are already quite bright), the whole fr is a lot less inconsistent, driver matching is worse, thd is worse, electrical impedance and phase...
>>52106250
Wouldn't recommend them, had a pair that I only used at the computer and the plastic shell started getting hairline cracks all over it, then a little over a year later one side completely stopped working, get the K240's
>>52106417
dont know where youre from, but the 400i on sale for 300 is easily the best deal to happen this holiday, besides for people that need something even cheaper
Anyone rec a good monitor headphone stand under $20?
>>52106590
I'm hard limiting myself to ~$50 USD and hoping for a good sale. Might splurge more once I'm working again, but just need something other than earbuds right now.
Sort of hoping the SHP9500s drop to $45 again.
>>52106581
oh, I tought K271's are better than K240's since they're cheaper
>>52106658
noBass, non-removable pads that'll start to stink in a few months
>>52106658
i see. if you cant get those, or another sale, i think the hd681 would be your best fallback
>>52106679
price doesnt mean much to a certain extent. but note that the 240s are open, so that guy obviously hasent been following our convo
>>52106683
Oh, the pads on those aren't replaceable? Well that's fucking stupid.
I got about $300 give or take. I just want long term comfort and neutrality.
http://www.amazon.com/AKG-Pro-Audio-K702-Headphones/dp/B001RCD2DW/
Still a good buy?
>>52106774
yes
>>52106787
Would say best buy in my range?
>>52106774
How good is the isolation on that? Says over ear but looks otherwise.
>>52106803
no. at 300, the 400i is clearly the best for an open headphone that wants neutrality, and that ruler flat bass is simply amazing. comfort however im not so sure about. they both dont get many complaints. that said, the k702 is very good at its price. if you wanted to save some money, im not so sure it's worth it, but to answer your question, imo, the 400i is /better/ if you have 300 dollars
>>52106713
I've read that they're semi open, but I've no idea what does it mean.
Do you know any other good closed headphones in that price range, or are msr7's really the best?
>>52106855
i think theyre the best. another option would be the nad viso hp50, but they emphasize bass more, which you had a concern about
semi open is pretty much just open, but they try to minimize the amount that escapes in a clever way to try to attempt both worlds. but its silly, because people that need closed need closed, its not really an attainable to have both
>>52106845
it's over-ear, because it covers the portion of the face around your ear. As for isolation, you don't want a pair like the K702: they're open, then they let the sound come in.
>>52106683
>noBass, non-removable pads that'll start to stink in a few months
top kek
>>52106761
they arent... or atleast they arent out of the box. People HAVE pulled stunts like replacing them with HM5 pads or like mad dog's pads. Its possible, just needs tinkering. For some reason aliexpress even sells the SHP9500 pads.
>>52106178
so e10 are better than any Beats?
>tfw no stock till sometime in January
>>52106915
I don't know, maybe? probably?
>>52106937
why would you reserve something that hasnt been measured by multiple sources? but perhaps, i am even dumber to ask this of a person that owns a dac2 hgc
>>52106900
Ok thanks mate.
This
http://www.amazon.com/Beyerdynamic-770-PRO-250-ohms/dp/B0006NL5SM/
Or this
http://www.amazon.com/Shure-SRH840-Professional-Monitoring-Headphones/dp/B002DP8IEK/
>>52106963
>250 ohms
do you have an amp?
if not, get the 80 ohms version
>>52106958
I'm sure there will be more out soon, possibly by the time I even pay for it. The real question is why you'd base the entirety of your opinion on the measurements of 2-3 models, especially with cheaper headphones that don't go through the same stringent channel matching the HD800 do.
I'm looking to buy a pair of V-Modas, should I buy the wireless ones or the cabled ones? The wireless ones don't fold and aren't compatible with the Coil Pro extended cable, but they are compatible with any other cable.
Is the wireless worth it?
>>52106877
ok, thanks for helping me.
also, do you think msr7's can be sometimes used to make music (mostly electronic), cause I know some people use M50X for that
I own a DT770 Pro.
Convince my why I should buy your headphone of choice.
Some anon recommended me the Philips SHE3590BK/28 if I wanted something cheap to use on my phone, is the /28 part really important?
I can find other sub-models on amazon but not that one.
>>52107098
don't bother, you're too poor
>>52106999
i dont really have an opinion on it. i have hopes that they will be very good. high end dynamic transducer phones are always exciting to anticipate imo
and for the second part, did you mean units instead of models? and even if you did, i dont base my opinion on entirely on measurements... i will have a listen as well, regardless of fr, and finalize my choice as such
>>52107081
most certainly, and better than the m50x. even tyll used them as a reference when testing some hardware and put them on the hall of fame because they met that criteria
>>52106991
It was just the first ticked option. Ofc 80 ohms.
So 770 then?
>>52107098
Do you use an amp? If so what kind?
>>52106991
Why would he go 80 versus the 32 if he's skipping amp?
What is this bullshit and should I avoid it?
>>52107115
>did you mean units instead of models?
Yeah sorry.
>i will have a listen as well, regardless of fr, and finalize my choice as such
Considering they basically more or less exist already and are more of a 'tweak' than a brand new headphone, I think my listening of the HD800 a number of times (and the 6KHz bump absolutely killing any justification I could make for buying them in the past) appearing to have been addressed to a good extent (better than any third party mod I've seen so far) it's not really like I'm completely in the dark about what I'm buying.
>>52107156
the 32 ohm version just doesnt measure as well. we pick the 80ohm for the same reason we wouldnt pick another headphone completely
>>52107177
i understand your logic, but there is just no reason to trust anyone in this type of economic system. you are more of a hopeful than me, and if you have the money to do it, it doesnt really matter anyway. everything is relative
>>52106946
o-ok, thanks?
>>52107264
I reckon if I sell off the additional balanced cable it comes with I could bring it down to the cost of a new HD800 from Jan anyway but his price on the S is more or less the same as what I'd pay for an 800 here locally.
Did I mention the comfort, earpad/cup shape and depth of the cup were also big influences?
>>52107376
dont get me wrong, im glad youre buying it. no matter how many broken sennheiser headbands people post, theyre very interested in how it sounds subjectively
>>52107121
>Do you use an amp? If so what kind?
Not really, sometimes I hook my 770 up to my receiver, but normally I just run it from the front of my PC. I'm using the 250 by the way.
>tfw $40 bookshelf sounds better than $500 headphones
Why is this allowed?
>>52107437
one driver to reproduce all sound is quite difficult you know
>>52107437
>bookshelf
what
>>52107404
I'd like to see them post broken HD800 headbands.
>>52107437
Sounds rather typical.
I've been comparing the FRs of the K702 with the HD600, but I couldn't help noticing that the various site provide very different graphs. According to Innerfidelity and to Headphones.com, the K702 has better sub-bass (more evident on Innerfidelity), both headphones have flat mids and the AKG K702 have more regular treble (Headphones.com shows the K702 peak at 2khz, while the HD600 treble is a bit below the flat line); according to Innerfidelity HD600 also has worse left-right matching. On the contrary, according to Goldenears, K702 have mismatching, HD600 has better sub-bass and K702 is a rollercoaster in the treble. Which one should I trust? I'm confused at the moment....
hey all, i need a comfortable pair of headphones with those pressure relieving earpads, i don't give a FLYING SHIT about the audio quality, just comfort.
>Budget - £100
>Location - britbong
>Source - phone/laptop
>Preferred type of headphone - overear
>Open or closed - closed
>Comfort level - nice n cushiony, like i said i don't give a shit about audio quality
>Preferred tonal balance - IDGAF
>Preferred music - STILL DGAF
>Past headphones - none
hope you guys might be able to help me out, if such a pair of headphones don't exist for the price then i can wait
check out what I just bought
>>52103070
SHE WAS PREGNANT YOU FUCKING DIP WHAT ELSE WOULD SHE DO
>>52107481
Welcome to variations between units and why you shouldn't trust measurements entirely.
>>52107487
xpt100
>>52107487
MEMORY CUSHIONS THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE CALLED
thanks >>52107502
>>52103784
Youre a good person nee-chan. :3
>>52103070
you're telling the story as if she is the one to blame. Dude, come on, what the fuck? You're lucky to be alive. If I had been your gf, I would have broken your head instead of your stuff...still, yeah for that price the HD650 are good. Anyone here says that they're the best headphones in their price range.
http://www.amazon.com/Audio-Technica-Professional-Headphones-Headphone-Amplifier/dp/B00KC4JMAS
http://www.amazon.com/Audio-Technica-ATH-M40x-Professional-Monitor-Headphones/dp/B00HVLUR54/ref=sr_1_1?s=musical-instruments&ie=UTF8&qid=1451335627&sr=1-1&keywords=m40x
Which one /hpg/?
I probably don't need the amp for this headphones, but I will if I upgrade, and it seems like a good deal?
>>52107583
>>52107583
>good deal
uh, no? they simply added the prices together. the e6 is only 28 bucks
>>52107558
What happened to the momentums and why
>>52107522
oh well, peace. Unfortunately there aren't stores allowing headphones trials near my home...I just hope that the K702 I've recently purchased will sound as clear and detailed and open as I expect
>>52107657
youre definitely sperging about it a bit too much. the k702 is fantastic at its price point
What are the major differences between akg k612 and k702?
>>52107728
detachable cable and weeb cred
>>52107159
Have you ever heard of Goldenears Accudio? This operates on a similar principle, but they seem less retarded.
They take measurements of headphones and use EQ to adjust to a predefined target.
>>52107481
There's a certain margin of error with headphone measurement, a certain distribution of the response with the same unit, never mind multiple sets using different couplers.
>>52107451
Not how that works.
>>52107416
>>52106991
Got the 770s. Thanks mates.
>>52107692
hopefully...I'm using the X2 in this period, but I don't find their sound really satisfying, especially for acoustic music.
>>52107755
>Not how that works.
oh yeah? care to explain why headphones suck compared to larger speakers then? and care to explain why floorstanders typically utilize many different size drivers?
>budget
€400 firm, preferably 300-ish
>Location
The Netherlands
>Source
Computer --> Marantz PM6005 or Marantz TT302 record player --> Marantz PM6005
>Preferred type of headphone
Full-sized
>Open or closed
Open
>Comfort level
Quite comfy but not to the extent of giving up too much audio quality
>Preferred tonal balance
Linear, but I've got Dali Zensor 1's so I'm quite used to a "bass-lacking" sound. Wouldn't say I prefer that but I certainly hate an overwhelming bass.
>Preferred music
Listen to all kinds of music:
-Math rock, emo (Slint, Enemies, TWIABP, toe, TTNG)
-Lo-Fi, indie, dream pop, alternative (Mac DeMarco, Beach House, Sufjan Stevens)
-Very little bit of hip hop (Kendrick Lamar and Kanye West only)
-Classical (Bach, Mozart, Chopin, Tchaikovsky, Brahms)
-80's rock and disco (little)
>Past headphones
Teufel Aureol Massive but they're too muddy.
Currently doubting between these 4:
HD650 for €319,-
HD600 for €289,-
Fidelio X2 for €289.-
Any help would be greatly accepted.
DT880 Pro for €224,-
>>52107792
enjoy your niggerbass, anon
>>52107849
if you don't like too much bass, get the 600 over 650, 650 is like a more expensive 600 with more bass
>>52107747
Er...sound-wise?
I've got Fiio E6, what is the biggest Ohm resistance they can drive?
>>52107849
HD600. It costs as much as X2 and it's more neutral/balanced. It's also more suitable to the music genres you like.
>>52107947
There's not a limit to the impedance an amp can drive. Usually the higher the headphones' impedance, the better, because the damping factor increases.
>>52107638
Second cable broke so i sold it to a friend for 500 sek ( $50-70 )
>>52107934
An anon told me that the K612 is the most hi-fi AKG in production. As for the FR, I can't say that the AKG K702 looks worse though...
I'm looking for the most isolating (passive noise cancelling) headphones out there. Bought Sony MDR-1RNC and fucking hate them. Any suggestions /g/?
>>52107487
You can buy those pads on Amazon for like £10 and put them on any of the compatible headphones, which is most over-ear headphones. I have them on my ATH-M30Xs and they are very comfy. The velour is the comfiest but has 0 isolation, the leather good isolation but your ears get warm after a while.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Brainwavz-Replacement-Memory-Foam-Earpads
You could get the actual Brainwavs headphones, they are very comfy. http://www.amazon.co.uk/BRAINWAVZ-HM5-Studio-Monitor-Headphones/
>>52107934
k612 is more neutral
>>52106475
How is isolation? And where did you buy them (what site)
>>52107804
>care to explain why headphones suck compared to larger speakers then?
Headphone lack the filtering that speakers do, for a start. That you also chose to beleive headphones suck is a factor.
>and care to explain why floorstanders typically utilize many different size drivers?
SPL, directivity, and bandwidth. A headphone can easily generate high SPL at eardrum when it is so near the ear, and normal headphones have the benefit of pressure chamber effect for subbass reinforcement.
>Budget
$60 give or take
>Location
USA
>Source
a $40 MP3 player when I find a good one
>Preferred type of headphone
portable on-ear
>Open or closed
I'll have to weigh the pros and cons of each while walking down highways
>Comfort level
would rather them stay on
>Preferred tonal balance
similar to the AKG K701
>Preferred music
jazz
would really like to not have to worry about a faulty cable before next year
been looking at the K403 by AKG, how are the cables on it?
>>52108001
Well, can they drive DT770 250ohm?
>>52108162
It depends on the voltage output of the E6. Try to check the specs on www.audiobot9000.com and compare the headphones with the amp there, it may be helpful.
Just found an old pair of sennheiser hd590's but the jack won't fit properly into anything I have, I have to pull it out a little bit in order to get any sound... Anyone know how to fix this? Also, are these better than mdrv6 or sr80i?
>>52108243
Fiio gives you enough specs to figure stuff out. Audiobot still sucks.
>>52108092
Bought them on AliExpress
Isolation is mediocre, 2.5/5 at best
>>52108333
> audiobot sucks
Why?
>>52103046
>X2
>too much clamp
It doesn't even clamp that bad.
hey guys I'm trying to connect my ad 2020 mic into my PC, while using my AKG headphones at the same time but every time i connect the mic the headphones don't play any sound. Any solution to this ?
>>52103046
I've got a X2 and I can definitely say that its clp force is really low. I have an average sized head, but whenever I bend my neck down I always feel like the X2 are slipping down as well.
>>52106658
Go up 10 bucks and buy the BassStyle 5001
If you want open get the Takstar 2050.
>>52108426
pls help
What's the difference between amps? Why are some so expensive and some so cheap?
>>52108630
because people think higher price = better quality
>Budget
$200-300
>Source
Phone, laptop
>Preferred type of headphone
Fullsized
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Decent Enough
>>52103220
the momentum is warm, if only because the treble is very rolled off. that is the defining feature of the momentum, heavy treble roll off. the pm3 is much closer to neutral, with less elevated bass and significantly more treble, but it's not bright. the pads are also much bigger, which is a frequent complaint on the momentum, small pads that almost make it an on-ear. I would say the pm3 is a clear step up from the momentum. another option would be the srh1540, that's bassier and warmer than the pm3, but it still has more treble compared to the momentum.
Do the AKG K612 or K702 sound "congested" in any way?
I'm tired of closed back headphones like the V6's, M50x, M-100, they all sound too congested and closed in for genres like rock. It sounds like shit. I need something with good separation and "spacious" sounding.
>>52108365
Doesn't do such a good job interpolating and extrapolating voltage/power into a load.
There were a few amplifiers/headphone combo that audiobot figured would not be adequate as far as SPL, but which actually had max output level several times beyond the headphone peak.
I just bought Sennheiser HD 558's for $100 canadian off amazon. How fucking retarded am I?
Someone please post that chart, how much you know in one axis and how much you say, about headphone brands.
>>52108243
>audiobot9000.com
>he400i
>transducer type: dynamic
>>52108797
>How fucking retarded am I?
None, really. Good headphones for the price. Just do the foam mod. If you don't find them loud enough, then get a cheap amp.
Are the Marshal headphones trash? Looking for something near 50 euros, should I consider them?
>>52108489
>BassStyle 5001
stop with this shit.
Recommend actual Takstars, not their knockoffs
>>52108739
Oh I see... So when audiobot says that an amp can power a headphone, may I presume that it's always true? As far as voltage requirements of headphones is it reliable? I mean in the tables where there are SPL on the left and the voltage requirements on the right...
>>52108947
>"stop with this shit. recommend actual fischer audio fa-003s for $300, not their knockoffs (brainwavz, nvx)
lol fuck off idiot
>>52108489
The 5001 uses different drivers in a Takstar shell so you don't know how they sound (unless you purchased a pair).
i live in a very cold area. will it be ok to turn my amp on right after i get it out of its box after shipment if its cold, or should i wait awhile?
>>52108426
Let me elaborate better,
I'm trying to connect my microphone
(it's a usb microphone) into my pc.
But I'm also connecting my headphones into the pc as well,
but when I do so my headphones don't play any sound unless I connect it directly to my microphones headphone jack.
Now my main problem is that the audio sounds really fuzzy compared to when it's connected to my pc.
I have no clue how to workaround this.
>>52109008
>the idiotic things people can come up with
>>52108903
I have a Xonar D2X soundcard. Does that count? If not, I have an iCute amp and power supply kicking around.
>>52108976
the difference with brainwavz and nvx is that they are actually good.
Takstars arent 300$ and absolutely no-one in these threads has actually ever owned the Basstyles to to say "yes, these sound good." to reccommend them.
Though i can guarantee you that they are garbage either way
What do portable amps sacrifice for their portability? Will something like fiio 10k be OK for desktop use?
>>52109064
>nobody can say they're good but i can guarantee they're bad
back to /r/headphones
>>52109077
nice meme.
You should get a pair of Trust headphones that look similar to whatever headphones you may want.
I mean if they look similar they must be just as good, right?
>>52109053
i mean, its a relatively legit concern if you dont know how shit works. i mean, imagine if it worked that way, and now you have to wait that much longer for a replaced product all cause you didnt wait 10 or 20 minutes for it to warm up.
of course, if that was the case, there would certainly be warning for such a thing already known by everyone, like on the level of telling your kids not to put a fork in an electric socket, since shit would be breaking left and right. but people dont really think about it that hard. they just know they dont know and dont want to be sorry
>>52109108
>i don't know how OEM works
just look at the gemini hsr-1000, they are literally identical to the pro80 in every way but branding. there are also rebrands of the hi2050 out there which are again identical in everything but logos. just because somebody went and made it detachable, put much better pads on it and changed the driver, doesn't automatically make it bad.
>>52109057
I really don't know, just listen to them for yourself. If they're loud enough, then they're fine. They don't actually need an amp and can be powered by even portable devices, I just personally like my music REALLY loud.
>>52109137
Except the driver is very different from the Pro 80, literally every stat is different. You can't guarantee they sound as good because they're not the same thing.
>>52109143
dont care about hearing loss?
>>52109137
>just look at the gemini hsr-1000, they are literally identical to the pro80 in every way but branding.
But can you guarantee that the basstyle are literally identical in every way that arent looks? You should buy them first and try them out before telling people to buy them because they might turn that the earcups are just filled with concrete
>>52109154
and you can't guarantee they sound bad. for all you know they could sound better.
>>52109177
heh. if the history of markets in general, let alone audio products, were so forgiving, people wouldnt make such a big deal out of this shit. the odds that some random headphone is just as good as another one that we typically recommend are slim as fuck
>>52109177
I'm not the guy you were replying to earlier, but if you're going to recommend them you should at least compare it to the Pro 80 to see if it actually sounds as good, better or worse.
>>52109162
I already have tinnitus, I don't care anymore.
>>52109051
PLS HELP ME
>>52109206
people generally don't make such a big deal out of it, don't project your autism on the market.
>>52109219
i'm not even the one recommending them, i'm just calling out a sperg for throwing a fit at someone for having THE AUDACITY to recommend them.
>>52109240
reading some measurements or reviews about a product is hardly autism. with the internet, its a few minutes and clicks of work. unless he can show measurements for his headphones, i cant recommend them over something we have measurements for. if thats autistic, then im autistic, i dont really care
>>52109295
>measurements of a single unit are an accurate representation of every unit that is sold
seriously you idiots have no idea what you're talking about.
>>52109314
If the manufacturer has any quality control at all, then yes, it should be fairly representative of the other units.
>>52109345
>$50 headphones from china
>quality control
also qc isn't exactly big in headphones if you're seen any factory tours of the big manufacturers like beyerdynamic and sennheiser.
best thing people can do is buy them from a site like amazon and if they sound bad just return them and report to whatever community they're a part of/measure them if they can
>>52108968
>So when audiobot says that an amp can power a headphone, may I presume that it's always true?
Audiobot's problem is underestimating amplifiers when an exact power-Ohm value of amp does not correspond to the headphone impedance. Sometimes this is very severe as I mentioned before.
>As far as voltage requirements of headphones is it reliable? I mean in the tables where there are SPL on the left and the voltage requirements on the right...
That much is right.
>>52109390
Reports of owners on the internet seem to be fairly consistent, so I'd say their quality control is alright.
>>52109314
firstly, i didnt say subjective opinion has 0 weight.
secondly, most headphones have more than one measurement online, and some even have multiple units measured per reviewer
thirdly, you exaggerate and least two points at the same time, in order to pigeon-hole my argument into one specific, incorrect path so that you may attack it. literally no one in this thread would actually say "one measurement of one unit is perfect" in this thread. why would anyone say that? its simply better to have them than not have them
>>52109394
Ok thanks.
>>52109421
>literally no one in this thread would actually say "one measurement of one unit is perfect" in this thread. why would anyone say that?
you conveniently ignore the fact that half the arguments in these threads use one or two measurements at best as citation for their shitposting
>>52109450
But shitposting is just that, shitposting.
Just received a pair of Samson SR850's from my dad for Christmas. They seem to have a decently flat response, and I forgot how much I missed semi-open headphones.
I'm definitely stoked to produce music with them though; I've been using shitty $10 walmart earbuds for too long.
>>52109483
unfortunately there's some sincerity behind some of it
>>52105322
Sorry for the delayed response. Thanks bro. The PM3s are most likely what I'm gonna get. If I don't like the bass, I can just use the bass boost on my DAC. I like flat sounds precisely because they sound good too me and make it easier to fiddle with the equalizer. Thanks again m8.
Im still open to any suggestions before I drop money on a meme phone.
These are the comfiest headphones ever
>>52109051
>>52109235
maybe you have to change the playback device?
>>52109487
did yours come with (fake) velour or pleather?
Do the K702 have memory foam pads or velour pads like the austrian K701?
>>52110019
velour is the material used around whats inside. memory foam is whats inside. those are different things
>>52110019
You mean pleather? Memory foam is the stuffing inside. The K702's are velour.
>>52109707
I got the velour. It's a very comfortable pair of cans. The weight distribution is very even, and its light to begin with.
