How much longer is SATA going to last /g/?
The same physical ports have been widely used since 2005.
Could they upgrade the spec even more while still maintaining SATA 1,2 and 3 compatibility?
>tfw didn't start using SATA until 2012
>>52099079
Sata will last for at least another 10 years, because of how common it is. It also offers all the speed disk drives could ever ask for. As disk drives slowly move to obsolescence, SATA will die with them.
As far as SSDs are concerned, the Industry is moving quickly to switch over to the PCIe interface, because SATA development advances so slowly. I predict, that in a few years, SATA SSDs will only be made for compatibility reasons.
>>52099079
Until after hard disks becomes obsolete, since hard disks are throttled by their own mechanical speed and latency.
>>52099079
Keep your consumer pleb shit interface, SAS master race.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_attached_SCSI
Hard drives haven't reached the maximal bandwidth of sata yet. Just because a technology is old doesn't mean it's bad.
>>52099397
>tfw using sata disks on sas backplane
>>52099079
nobody even needs sata.
IDE master race.
>>52099079
What's better than SATA?
>>52099647
PATA
>>52099647
PCIe.
>>52099445
this
progress for the sake of "progress" is retarded especially for something so trivial
Future boards will only have a mini pcie slot for the ssd. If you want SATA you'll have to use a sata card.
>>52099818
Progress for the sake of progress leads to new ideas, which can be developed into a better lifestyle. Even if Sata were 20x faster, someone would come up with an idea that'd make use of that bandwidth.
m2 NVME for Laptops.
>>52099958
not that good in real world test tho
>>52099973
I still bought a 950 pro any way though
>>52099973
That has more to do with other bottlenecks in the system than the SSD being bad.
Even if you have the whole game on a RAM disk you will get load times.
I'm not sure about the technical reason for this.
>>52100137
I'm not saying the M.2 drive are bad, but just 99% of people won’t be able to utilise the read/write speeds they are capable of.
They'll last as long as hard drives last, which could be decades.
m.2 will become the new standard while SATA will be on motherboards like how IDE was on motherboards.
>>52100168
M.2 drives are not just about speed. They offer less clutter (no data cable, no power cable), and a smaller form factor.
>>52100305
Less power consumption too I believe
>>52099079
Anybody Raid 0 them yet, you gould get speeds of 8000mbs I bet
>>52100305
Does it justify the price though, my Samsung 950pro 256gb cost me £160.
The same Samsung Evo 256gb would have been about £45, for the same real world speeds.
Sata has plenty of life left. It offers plenty of bandwidth for HDD and SSD for standard users, is a well established standard, backwards compatible and widely supported and cheap. Those that wish to get the full benefits of highend SSDs have their own solutions like pcie or M2.
>changing things that aren't broken
>>52100368
5.2W average load, 7W peak. It consumes as much as a Sata SSD. But unless it's in the airflow like on my X99-Deluxe, it may get a lot hotter than a 2.5" SSD.
>>52100383
More like 4500 MB/s. Pic related is a single drive.
>>52100404
A Evo 250 GB for 45 GBP? I find that hard to believe. Then again, I wouldn't be surprised if they dropped that low already.
>>52100776
>those random write results
Stop it, my dick can only get so hard.
Also the 850 evo 250gb is about £55-60, prices seem to drop seemingly weekly. I keep checking for drops because I'm after the 500gb one and that's about £115 right now.
Are there any announcements about ssd storage increase any time soon? About to pull the trigger and wondering if there's a price drop around the corner.
>>52101127
No. SSD prices don't drop like that.
They're going down slowly, incrementally.
>>52101127
Samsung will bring some new V-nand on the market next month that allows them to make a 950 Pro with 1 TiB.
>>52099551
same here on my server because im too poor for SAS drives and only SAS drive i got is a 73gb maxtor
>>52101189
Interesting, might wwait just a boot longer. The 850 is over a year old right? If they bring out a successor soon then the 850s will surely drop.
Is there a good website dedicated to ssd news? I find it harder to follow ssd news than gfx news for example.
>>52101311
I didn't wait because I don't see myself needing more than 500 GB of SSD space any time soon. I've got 8 TiB of HDD space for storage purposes.
Haven't heard about any successor to the 850. There isn't much to improve any more, they've reached the limits of what SATA can do long ago. They might release a NVMe capable model though.
>>52101361
I suppose after saturating sata III the game now is to improve write durability, random read/writes and density.
I agree I don't think I'll need more than 500, baring in mind I will still have the old 830 120gb too but I'll use that as a cache for my HDD.
>>52099445
Hard drives are also getting outdated.
Basically everyone but Seagate jumped ship. They still think hard drives will be viable for the next 25 years or something.
Meanwhile backups are made on magnetic tapes, SSD's are killing HDD usage for consumers and what's left is the inbetween that will soon be filled with SSD's.
>>52100404
You don't specifically need NVMe drives. I just bought a 850 EVO in m.2 format because it's so much cheaper. I only have 2x2.5" slots and a m.2 slot so my options are limited.
>>52101707
With nitrogen filled disks there will be a market in the short to medium term
>>52099647
The cloud
>>52101757
SSD's are growing a lot faster in capacity then HDD's though.
And their price is literally because of demand. Not because it costs a lot to make. Silicon is cheap. R&D is basically a side product from other products when we're talking about Samsung.
I for one can't wait till harddrives are fucking gone.
I still use SATA SSDs as I need to use all 6 SATA ports of my Z97 motherboard as using the M.2 slot kills 2 SATA ports.
I wish I waited for Skylake as those have more PCI-E lanes and can support both all sata and M.2 running at the same time.
>>52099671
mah nigga
runnin' super smoothly with my Pentium 133 right now
just got my new 20 Gb HDD for less than $850
making dem floppies slide in'n'out
Trident graphics are the best btw
>>52099958
That samsung ssd is almost as fast as my 4 year old Acer that reached 900Mbps
>>52099973
Real world includes random reads which are VERY fucking important.
>>52100137
Space-efficient, CPU-inefficient compression.
Games are moving to using LZ4 compression which is so fast on X86 it increases realtime throughput through system memory.
meh speeds are placebo
>>52101995
>trident
>not ATI Rage Pro
Nigga that carried me all the way into the 2000's, shit could run a decent chunk of ps1 and n64 games great, paired with my old AMD K6-III at 350MHz my old win98 box was a champ
>tfw only a 6gb HDD