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Other business laptops are also welcome in /tpg/ (e.g. Dell Latitude/Precision, HP EliteBook/ZBook).
If you're looking for purchase advice, READ THE BUYERS GUIDE FIRST. Then post, stating budget and requirements (e.g. size and performance).
Don't buy anything OTHER THAN T, X AND W/P SERIES if you want the Real ThinkPad Experience™
Recommended models:
T420 - 14", normal size
X220 - 12.5", lightweight
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No news.
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Why ThinkPad? (also applies to other business laptops)
>They’re really cheap when you buy a used one.
>Keyboards feel excellent while typing (yes, even the newer ones).
>Great durability thanks to the inclusion of rollcages and use of glass fiber reinforced plastic for the chassis. The keyboard is splash proof and spilled liquids will drain out.
>Utilitarian design - e.g. indicator LEDs, 7 row keyboard layout on older models.
>Docking solutions that easily turns your laptop into a desktop.
>Easy to repair, upgrade and maintain thanks to readily available service manuals for almost every model. Spare parts are easy and cheap to obtain.
>The best trackpoint (that red thing on the middle of the keyboard). Great for those who type a lot or hate swiping their fingers all over a touchpad.
>Excellent GNU/Linux & *BSD support.
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Used ThinkPad Buyers Guide:
http://ktgee.net/tpg
EPP discount for new ThinkPads (USA & Canada only, usually 15%+ off):
http://pastebin.com/wumE7L2f
ThinkWiki - Info on ThinkPads and running GNU/Linux on them:
http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ThinkWiki
ThinkPad service guides w/ tutorial videos:
https://www.lenovoservicetraining.com/
first
>What Thinkpad do you have and why that model?
>Which OS(s) do you use and why?
>What do you use it for?
>Do you use a HDD or a SSD and why? What capacity and why?
>Do you use your M-SATA slot? If so, what capacity and why?
>How much RAM do you have?
what's your thinkpad's hostname?
post pics of your thinkpads
>>52076361
There is no why. Because ThinkPad.
>>52076372
nisemonogatari
>>52076346
is that an oomkin?
>>52076380
pic related
>>52076372
rannoch
>>52076403
thinktrap?
At this point I'm too afraid to upgrade to anything newer in terms of ThinkPad.
I posted in the last thread, but a bit too late to be noticed.
>>52076380
This is mine!
>>52076372
bluejay
>>52076361
>What ThinkPad do you have and why?
T420; price, Linux compatibility, documentation
>Which OS do you use?
Debian; compatibility, stability
>What do you use it for?
Programming, 3D modeling, web development, graphic design
>Do you use an HDD or SSD and why?
I have a 750 GB HDD. The computer is new and I haven't changed it. I'd like to get an SSD at some point.
>Do you use your M-SATA slot?
No
>How much RAM do you have?
8 GB
>>52076372
bentobox
>>52076466
thinktrap doesn't really fool anyone tho
>>52076380
>>52076487
wow, not only do you look like an insecure attention whore, you also attached the stickers upside down, cementing the idea that you mistakenly believed the stickers were for "your benefit" and not for other people.
>>52076487
>>52076403
I have such conflicted feelings about stickers on thinkpads.
>>52076530
tru tru, pretty solid observation
>>52076542
If you do it right it looks good, mine probably doesn't.
>shitty photo is shitty, its a stylized sun, not a sawblade.
Is a 1600x900 (e.g. T420) capable of 1080p if linked to an external monitor?
>>52076467
>>52076361
>What Thinkpad?
X220. Last of the ultralight with old-school keyboard.
>Which OS?
Win10 because I'm a tool. And lazy. And it's not for work and sometimes you don't want to fiddle with shit too much.
>What do you use it for?
Writing documentations and general internetting
>HDD or SSD?
240GB SSD.
>mSATA?
I used to. Then I swapped it for 2.5" when I realized it doesn't run at SATA3 speed. To be honest? It doesn't make a damn difference if you're not copying files. But then this laptop doesn't even have a USB 3.0 built in. Long story short, it was a mistake.
>RAM?
16GB of nothingness.
I want a meme sticker, but I don't know what to get.
>>52076657
just google "9gag meme stickers online" my friend :^)
>>52076657
Kill yourself.
>>52076642
1600x900 is 1600x900.
But DisplayPort should be able to do 1080p out.
>>52076472
>doesn't really fool anyone tho
normies have awful penis senses. I told my normie roomates that I'm my own girlfriend, and they haven't questioned it.
and you faggots like dicks anyway, so hiding here doesn't matter :^)
>>52076530
don't be so rude, anon
>>52076657
get a reddit sticker so everyone knows how ebin your browsing habits are :^)
>>52076636
Yours looks good, dont add more in my opinion.
Hows mine? Came with my sandisk ssd lol. I need another one to cover my missing sleep/power sticker...
>>52076713
>I'm my own girlfriend
now that's delusion and mental illness taken to a whole new level
>>52076717
I think "inoffensive" is a pretty good word.
How does the non-ips screen compare to the ips screen on the w220? How can I tell if a seller has an ips screen?
>>52076727
it's not like I actually am. I just didn't want to let the normies I live with know that I'm a massive faggot, and they know me as a guy, so yeah.
>>52076361
>What Thinkpad do you have and why that model?
X230T because of the touch screen
>Which OS(s) do you use and why?
Windows 7 cuz it has better drawing software
Also keep an arch partition for general cuck posting
>What do you use it for?
Drawing and EGPU GAYMING with a GTX 960
>Do you use a HDD or a SSD and why? What capacity and why?
500 Gee Bee HDD
>Do you use your M-SATA slot? If so, what capacity and why?
256GB for those sweet load ups
>How much RAM do you have?
8 Gee Bee
>>52076713
>I told my normie roomates that I'm my own girlfriend
ayyy
thanks for the laugh
seriously tho
crossdressers and trannies can look ok in pictures because they take 1000 pics and cherrypick the nice angles
you don't get that luxury in real life
also stop calling yourself thinktrap, you're not that tripfag
>>52076657
Right here faggot
http://www.redbubble.com/shop/pepe+frog+stickers
>>52076757
>also stop calling yourself thinktrap, you're not that tripfag
The other anon called me that. I never called myself anything.
>>52076767
can you post before and after transformation?
>>52076780
I actually just started hormones about two weeks ago, so the pictures I've posted might as well be before.
there won't be after pics until about a year from now. sorry, anon.
>>52076372
X201
kinda boring but I like naming my devices by model number
>>52076735
What do you mean by that? Should I get a flames sticker or perhaps some tribal design?
>>52076830
I'd rather you keep that sticker than go tribal.
It's fine.
>>52076361
>x220
>Fedora
>Shitposting, small projects, email
>300 gb hdd, haven't gotten the chance to switch it out
>nope, planning to though
>8gb of ram but the most I have ever used is like 2
>nop
>>52076816
oh ok...
pls post lots of pics when you become a gril
>>52076329
>faggot enters thread
>LOOK AT ME IM A FAGGOT
absolutely fucking disgusting
does upgrading the t420 gpu require a custom BIOS?
>>52076916
*cpu
>>52076859
>implying it is possible for a guy to become a girl
Protip: HRT, mutilating your penis and wearing a skirt doesn't change shit
>>52076816
>i told my normie roommates that i'm my own girlfriend
so what happens when your idiot roommates start wondering why their roommate disappeared and why his gf always hangs out at his place?
>>52077000
Are you saying he's Superman?
What do you guys have your thinkvantage button bound to?
Mine opens a terminal
>>52077023
he certainly seems to think he's superman
i'm playing along
>>52077041
mine plays http://a.pomf.hummingbird.moe/ntkicv.wav
meta+enter is much more convenient for opening a terminal
>>52076916
I think that Lenovo started phasing out most upgradable parts and implementing hardware whitelists when they acquired the Thinkpad line, so it's potentially an issue.
That being said, I've read some stuff of people just sticking in a better CPU and it working ootb, so ymmv.
>>52076861
all the normies on the containment board are all disgusting plebs who wouldn't know the first thing about technology if it hit them in the face. I'd be totally okay with fucking off if our GNU/lord and saviour came down upon the normies and cleansed them of their proprietary chains and made them actually have brains to think about technology.
>>52076942
who cares if I'm a guy or a girl. I just want to be pretty, which is what HRT does. checkmate, normie.
>>52077000
I'm always at a friend's place and never leave my room when I'm there so I only see them like once a week. They've actually asked why I'm never there and I told them that I usually go and hang out at my gf's place. so yes basically i'm superman.
>>52077060
>who care if i'm a guy or girl
>says the tranny on HRT
also what happens when you can no longer pretend to be a guy in front of your roommates?
>i am become gf lol
Is the NVS 3100M (T410) GPU equal to/better than the HD 4000 (T430)? Some people have said it is. Is the i7-M620 (T410) similar to the i5-3320M (T430) or noticeably slow?
>>52077089
>>who care if i'm a guy or girl
>>says the tranny on HRT
What I'm saying is that I just want to be pretty, and, well, unfortunately guys can't really be pretty. If you think I'm a faggot for that, then that's ok.
>also what happens when you can no longer pretend to be a guy in front of your roommates?
I haven't thought it through that far yet. I guess that will work itself out eventually, somehow.
I can't get anything better than 1366x768 on a X220 can I?
>>52077139
yes, but you can at least get an IPS. make sure to get the tablet version, since you are guaranteed an IPS that way.
>>52077127
>If you think I'm a faggot for that, then that's ok.
It all depends, do you like men or are you one of those trannies who still likes women and becomes lesbian?
>>52076713
I would still totally bang you. Tranny gf who like thinkpads and shitposts on /g/? Count me in.
>>52077173
I actually bought the non-tablet version; I've had an X60T in the past and I'd rather not have the hinge go flaccid on me like the X60T did. Besides I just checked. The IPS versions of the display are only like $50 on ebay, so if I ever want to upgrade it's cheap to do so (though I probably won't get it).
>>52077207
If you're willing to go through the annoyance of getting and installing the new screen, then it's probably worth to do that, then. I just recommended the X220T because I'm hella lazy and didn't realise that there are problems that people have with the hinges on them.
>>52077181
I used to consider myself completely bi, and liked both men and women, but since getting on estrogen I'm all confused about my sexuality again because stuff with guys/dicks doesn't get me off the way it used to anymore, so I guess I'm the latter but I'm not really sure =\
Is a debian sticker too trashy?
>>52077256
As long as it's facing up, as to not be self absorbed (^:
>>52077256
Every sticker is too trashy
So after going through an x200 x201 and x220 I decided I wanted to stick with an x201. But /g/ help me out a little bit.
I currently have the x200 and x201 in pieces. Originally I was planning to swap the bodies but now I have a better idea. I am going to sand this shit down and paint it.
So /g/, what color should I paint?
Also, heres a picture on how not to setup a budget home network.
>>52077294
Mine >>52076717 is not. I'm so utilitarian.
It's facing you because you need to be notified that if you touch my machine you'll be dead. Touch it and bang you are already dead. 1000 pounds worth of steel hinges and rollcage is going down upon you, son.
You never touched your dad's tools right? Oh boy you are in for a beating.
>>52076329
the thread image changed again? whats going on!?
>>52077376
black
don't be a faggot
What stickers should I get from unixstickers for my T430
>>52077433
if you must be a faggot, keep it gnu chic
a single GNU head sticker is ok
nothing else
>>52076467
I don't know anything about thinkpads.
What is that between the trackpad and thinkpad logo? It looks interesting but I have no idea what what it is.
>>52077483
Fingerprint reader, a cool way to protect your system instead of a password.
Protects your porn from your noisy mother.
>>52077515
also generally faster with signing on
>>52077483
Fingerprint reader. It works pretty well under Windows 7, but getting it to work under GNU/Linux is a pain.
>>52077534
Under debian and ubuntu it's literally a single package to install and it works.
Were probably not getting the thinkpad retro until 2017 (if at all) , will the staples last long enough for resource intensive tasks until then?
>>52077515
Is it safe to assume this fingerprint reader is sending out your print to government agencies?
>>52077554
My T410 ain't saying goodbye for at least 10 more years.
>have T42
>runs slow as shit for video stuff on Linux
>install winxp for shits and giggles
>find the appropriate CCC drivers on the web
>plays everything at a modern standard, even plays muh gaymen
well that was unexpected. Lenovo's drivers don't actually work, had to seek them out.
>>52077589
netflix isnt muh gayman, gaymes are like counter strike 2, battlefield, and metal gear honor
>>52077515
>>52077534
Ah okay. That's pretty cool. Although I use gnu/Linux so it would be pointless for me, would it? Is it a pain to get working as in "It takes a long time and a lot of configuration to get it working correctly" or "it just doesn't work"?
Also, on what models do these tend to be on? Just the x series?
>>52077556
Oh yeah. Just imagine yourself having a database full of fingerprints; some lab or research facility will surely be willing to buy them.
Don't ask me the reasons, could be anything.
>>52077608
All the models, but it is optional so you will be seeing most without it but you can just change the whole palmrest (which includes the trackpad and the optional fingerprint reader).
>>52077544
CRUX/Slackware user here, it was tricky for me to get it working. Glad it was easier for Debian.
>http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Maintenance#Battery_treatment
Lithium Ion - remove battery when on AC (due to heat)
so I removed my battery (thinking this would help keep low and constant temperatures), not seeing much of a difference.
Do most people remove their batteries if they're using AC only?
>>52077620
>>52077556
No. It would be extremely easy to tell if it was doing this. Unless you use Windows, i can imagine that, but even that is unlikely.
>>52077608
The reader can come on all the models, but mostly the T,W,and X series. Also, from what I have read it is not very hard at all to get it to work on modern distros, but I am old fashioned, and compiling it yourself it a little jankey.
>>52077660
I was having Windows in mind. How is it unlikely? It's free money man, do you think that Microshaft isn't exploiting everything they can? Big businessmen consider everything to be money.
>tfw no qt 12.5" X260 with discrete graphics
i have a budget of 300$ and im torn between these two
http://www.laptopcloseout.com/lenovo-thinkpad-t420-3
http://www.laptopcloseout.com/lenovo-thinkpad-x220-tablet-5397
what do i do about the screens on thinkpads that are literally dissolving?
how do i fix this vs buying a rmbp or some shit
my t43 is dying : (
>>52077556
>>52077709
I already work for government agencies. They have me on file. They got hacked. Now the Chinese has my fingerprints. I no longer give a fuck.
>>52076372
Hamasaki
>>52077774
They don't even put discrete graphics in the 15" T series anymore. It's all ultrabooks, all the time. Thanks normies.
>>52077792
Spend $90 on an X201, $50 on a 9cell battery, $70 on a SSD, and spend the rest on a hooker.
I've never used eBay. Although I would like to use it for buying a thinkpad.
Could I get some general advice for this? How should I know what sellers to definitely stay away from?
>>52077774
Enjoy your mobile furnace. In all seriousness I think that modern systems should be more efficient, I can't judge since I only use dinosaur laptops.
>>52077799
Order another screen and replace it? Did a mage cast disintegrate on it?
>>52077810
>>52077774
At this point I wouldn't even expect a clitmouse on my thinkpads.
>>52077829
>$50 9cell
Yup. Enjoy your Chinese exploding battery
>>52077835
I would say, if you want a really nice machine, stay away from all the resellers that are "certified recyclers," the stuff they sell is literally junk, bottom of the barrel machines marked up way more then they should be.
>>52077829
>tfw $60 on X200 and $50 on SSD
>>52077810
It's pretty sad. The X2xx is thick enough and has the battery for it too.
I still wish Dell was still shitting out the M11x. I'd buy one in a heartbeat.
>>52077852
>not knowing about low cycle 9cells on eBay for $50 or less
>>52077799
>literally dissolving
Maybe your discrete graphic chip is fucked.
In which case, chuck it and get a nice used T420.
Does anyone happen to know if the bottom case and top/lcd cover from the x220 are replaceable with the ones from an x230?
>>52077877
>not buying 18650 cells and soldering into your old battery case
and you call yourself an enthusiast..
>>52077904
>not fabricating your own cells to put in your battery case
>>52077904
>not using the bio-power of kidnapped paraplegic orphans that you strap to your back.
fucking pleb.
>>52077896
Could very possibly be. Have you found them cheaper? I know that in order to fit an x220 keyboard into an x230 you gotta shave some palmrest plastic tab but the bottom case should be pretty much unaltered from the previous model.
>>52076372
Main like everything in my life.
>>52076380
heres my abused child.
>>52076361
>T420
>Elementary OS
>Anything I need to do on the go. Usually for school.
>120gb ssd cause it werks
>no need
>6gb cause im a lazy fucker
>
>>52077966
>Elementary OS
People still use this meme OS? I thought it was dead by now.
>>52077966
>closing the lid puts the system to sleep
>can't change that
Otherwise Elementary was pretty cool.
>>52077987
Not him, but it is a fairly polished, pretty, and easy to use distro built off of the solid foundation that is Ubuntu.
>>52077987
not him, its great
>>52077932
>>52077937
Come on now, your methods are too complicated. Just summon a demon and ask him for thinkpad batteries.
In order to summon the IBM demon just draw a clitmouse on the floor and chant the t420 song.
>>52077987
People give it shit but its pretty decent just a little weird at times.
>>52078004
True but I was surprised how well it actually runs.
>>52078045
The T420 song? Enlighten me.
>>52078047
It runs pretty good, even though the virtual desktop animations were glitchy for me. It is nice that natural scrolling was incorporated.
But then you have the default terminal being opaque now. Just why? when it was transparent and cool.
I bought a guenuine 90w psu for my x61 from ebay. After using it for an hour, it started switching off for a few seconds every minute. Is the PSU dead, is it dangerous?
>>52078078
true ive only had problems with it freezing at first with one of my programs but its good now. Im still surprised how well it supported think pads little gimmick stuff like think light and shit. Also battery life has been great.
>>52078045
But IBM demon has gone SaaS and doesn't make stuff anymore. Now you ask the Chinese gods for batteries and hope they don't explode.
>>52078106
Hey there getting better. Not perfect but atleast there trying.
> X220
Battery lasts around 3 years. If you're buying used, that time will be reduced. Probably similar for T420. This will likely be the first thing that goes, so keep that (and the prices for replacement) in mind if you're thinking about buying.
They're alright overall, but very overrated and over-hyped.
T420
Manufactured refurbished
Year warranty
I5
4GB ram
250GB HDD
14.1"
$215
Is this okay? Am I making any mistakes? Or am I good to go?
>>52078121
>Not having newegg ship you a free thinkpad t420
Why live
>>52078130
Not sure what you mean
>>52078130
how
>>52078121
Not good at all, you can get a similar machine for $150 or less on ebay.
>>52078136
>>52078142
Newegg fucks up shipping to me frequently. The last fuck up was ordering a t410 getting it shipped to the opposite of where I am and then receiving a t420 with a refund. I just dont question it anymore.
>>52078053
Oh great electronic demon master,
grant me the power of the 4 elements,
The fire of the HD+ panel,
The water of the tears of the apple users,
The ominous winds anticipating the ebay deals,
The fertile earth that spawned my human body which is your host tonight.
>proceed to step into the circle now, a badly drawn clitmouse means danger
[Insert your name here] is your vessel this night, oh powerful master of business.
Great thinker and merciful granter of gifts,
Here, at 4:20 AM I ask thou to protect me from scams, from the locked BIOS curse, from the venomous apple's retina displays.
I understand, oh merciful being, that your spirit will become the rollcage of my will.
Through the so apparent low quality TN display, you will grant me powers. The power to think beyond the human realm.
>Now you ask for the thinkpad that you wish to be gifted with.
>Step out of the circle
That's it, just don't say ":chinkpad" or you'll suffer.
>>52076329
Holding out for the retro.
>>52078115
Yup. My X220 is 4 years old and I had to toss out my first battery because it's very much dead and I didn't feel like fixing it up.
>>52078203
>chinkpad
>gets a thought
>find my ancient X41 with strange SSD inside
>look at brand
>IBM
>look at origin
>China
>look at old XP license sticker
>Lenovo Singapore
There's no escaping the chinkpad
>>52078309
it's a reality but it's derogatory, for best results never mention china or any asian country.
>>52078309
And I guess I'll use this as an opportunity to post my stupid sexy X41.
Who else /cold/ here ?
>>52079292
One day it will be cold so my computers are heaters.
>>52076329
X230 OR T430s?
Why is everyone using the t420 over the t450s? Is it a price issue?
>>52079475
yah if anything its price.
>>52079356
I would like to have intercourse with this fine young lady.
T420 reporting in
i5-2550
8GB DDR3
240GB SSD
320GB HDD
1600x900 display
Dual Boot: Windows 8.1/Ubuntu 14
Got my eye on a T430s.
>>52079523
Incorrect. Please try again.
Guys...hey guys...I have a T420 and this mother fucker can't even run a twitch stream for 10 minutes before stuttering like a mother fucker. I know it's because of flash, but maybe it's time to move on to a more-powerful laptop?
>>52079668
That doesn't seem normal even with Flash.
How is your CPU load and temps while watching twitch streams ?
Specs ?
>>52079668
>twitch
Do you seriously have nothing better to do with your life than watch nerds get worked up at their computers?
Please return to >>>/v/ where you belong.
Could anyone recommend me a good ebay seller in EU?
I'm tired of browsing through millions of Thinkpads to find one that isn't scratched, missing HDD, has a faulty battery or looks outright taken from a dumpster.
>>52079709
Specs
Someone mind taking some pictures of the t430/s screen to analyze the quality?
>>52079668
A t420 is definitely powerful enough to play twitch streams. Install livestreamer for lower temps and less flash bullshit.
>>52079764
I had to switch to livestreamer to avoid the issue, but it kills me that I have to.
>>52079732
Great shitpost
>>52079709
>tfw 15 degree increase just from hd streams
thats w/ mpv too..this thing definitely needs new pasting
>>52079975
Repaste that shit.
It shouldn't throttle at 65C though, but mpv should be a good deal less CPU intensive than watching on twitch too.
>>52076372
xena.
thinking up the name for the x200 i want to get
>>52076372
setsuna-ThinkPad-T520
>>52079998
>mpv should be a good deal less CPU intensive than watching on twitch too.
Yeah, usage is half as much, big difference.
>dat frequency
Is that normal though?
>>52080154
>>dat frequency
>Is that normal though?
Yes. It doesn't take a very high load for a CPU to jump to its max frequency, all it needs it enough to not be considered idle.
Just found a used x201 for $100 with free shipping, should I pull the trigger? I need a small laptop for side projects
Was thinking of getting a a thinkpad and I was just scouring Craigslist and stumped upon this.
https://madison.craigslist.org/sys/5372122510.html
Could you guys identify what thinkpad it is? I'm not familiar with each model so I can't exactly figure it out.
Does it seem like a solid deal? Looks good to me but, again I'm unfamiliar with thinkpads or really laptops in general
>>52080185
yes do it right now
>>52080185
I would if nothing is missing like the HD or OS
>>52080258
T400 is my best bet, google it and compare.
Too expensive, if it was <$100 then hell yeah but for a bit more you can get at least a t410 which is a huge jump in processor speed, or even a t420! two generations above that.
Check the links in the OP.
I got this piece of shit for $30. Did I fuck up, gee? It's called ThinkPad x120e.
It also has a GOBI2000 WWAN module and a 1366x768 11inch screen. The motherboard with shitty amd CPU can be replaced with the ThinkPad Edge 11 one which contains i3-380um CPU.
>>52080307
Alright will do, thank you
>>52080354
No problem, report back if you need anything else. I still don't get over the fact that the seller won't negotiate the price, can't they check out the average price first before denying any sort of negotiation?
>>52080258
That's an r500. $200 is too high for it, $150 is the most I'd pay and that's pushing it.
>>52080383
>Dropping the A series, IBM introduced a mainstream budget line of ThinkPads in the R series. The RXXe series lacks some of "normal" RXX series features like stereo speakers, touchpad, hot-swappable CD/DVD drive, docking connector and some other things. They also usually feature slower CPU like Intel Celeron (but in newer models also slower Intel Core processors). ACPI functions in modern RXX-e models are just as well supported in Linux as they are for the regular RXX models. Starting from R61, the R series ThinkPads feature the same chassis (including RollCage) as the T series making them virtually indistinguishable from each other.
Anyways I guess the verdict remains in stone as always... X,T,W or bust. Only Carbon is the exception and maybe the new P50 and P70 even though they look cheap.
>>52080456
I used an R series as my daily driver for a few months. A job I had at a university let me take it when they upgraded. It's okay if you're doing word processing/programming and browsing the web.
>>52080292
HDD is trivial to install
and even if it comes with OS preinstalled, you wipe that shit and install a fresh copy of your favorite OS
>>52080317
>30$
nigga u struck gold
>What Thinkpad?
X230
>Which OS?
Xubuntu
>What do you use it for?
When I can't be assed to reach for my larger laptop
>HDD or SSD?
320GB HDD
>mSATA?
Nope. Will probably by a small one soon
>RAM?
8GB
>>52077207
trust me IPS is totally worth the $50. I couldn't believe how fucking awful the stock TN panel was.
>>52076329
Latitude E6410 for $150 with i5 540M, Nvidia Quadro 3100, 4gigs of RAM and 160GB SATA
feels good man
Looking for a Thinkpad with a dedicated graphics card around £200 - £300 for some light adobe work and playing old games mainly pre 2009 what do you guys recommended?
X200S
CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo L9400 1,86GHz
GPU: Intel GMA 4500MHD 64Mb
RAM: 2GB PC3-8500
160GB 7200rpm 2.5" SATA HDD
Worth 95$?
>>52081214
t420
>>52078309
>>52078422
>not knowing the fact that IBM outsourced their manufacturing to China years before they sold off the business
>getting salty when an IBM-Lenovo transition laptop has Lenovo on it
>>52081218
respond you fucking faggots.
will it at least run linux
>>52081300
last I checked linux didn't have exceptionally great system requirements and people have run modern linux distros on even more ancient machines
>>52081403
by that I mean a recent distro and with a relatively smooth experience
>>52081300
Do you know what will run Linux? Your mum. Just insert a Debian CD into her flabby downstairs CD tray. You need to make sure she's got enough power for the install, so remember to put the charger up her arse. I'd recommend Debian Wheezy, cause she's gonna be out of breath when she's stable.
>>52081434
>trying so hard to be funny and edgy
how's hightschool faggot?
>>52081424
define smooth experience
if you're trying to watch 1080p animes or run over 9000 browser tabs you'd be rightfully disappointed
what should i keep in mind when buying TPs for later resell?
Lots have no batteries and shit, but not sure if worth buying them as is and adding shit to sell it later.
>>52081455
>hightschool
at least that faggot can spell while you dropped out of grade school
>>52081503
alright fuck off
>>52081434
>Shit-tier shit posting.
>>52076329
>T, X AND W/P SERIES if you want the Real ThinkPad Experience™
Except that IBM didn't design any of these series, did they?
So they can't be "real" ThinkPads, just rebadged commodity Lenovos.
IBM handing responsibility for the design to Lenovo was a big mistake. The frst thing Lenovo did was to refactor the ThinkPad while keeping the outer appearance. Everything that made the ThinkPad a business machine was replaced by commodity components. The FlexView display was the first to go. Then the error-checking, the redundancy, the hi-tolerance components; anything to get the cost down.
Is the X1 Carbon worth it?
The 2014 versions with the fucked up keyboard are going for around 600€, which seems like an OK price, but I am not sure if I can deal with that keyboard. Plus, the "adaptive" part seems like a nightmare to get working with linux.
There are manuals on the web on how to swap the touchpad with the new one, but it seems you cant swap the keyboard.
And the 2015 model is starting at 1000€, which is a bit much, maybe?
When will the 2016 model come out, and can I expect a price drop?
>>52081595
>all this fud
hint: ibm thinkpads have numerous issues
>>52082533
I think that at least lenovo did good with what it was given, if not you would not be seeing all those working 6-10 year old thinkpads.
It is what it is, hopefully the retro will start a new beginning.
How do I disable Turbo Boost in Linux on my X220? There's nothing about it in the BIOS.
>>52082573
As far as I know there's still the thinkpad development team in Japan that's still with Lenovo.
They had to get the cost down to compete, otherwise thinkpads would be long dead by now.
>>52076403
>>52076713
>cute
>cool style
>has a Thinkpad
would hang out with / 10
>>52082604
That's what I've heard...
Now that I think about perhaps it is nice that they have low-end systems (even though I don't see much people with them around here) but the now established T, X, W series should be a symbol of quality.
Someone should inform the Japan team about the thinkpad generals. This place is literally a research goldmine.
>>52082683
>90% full of shitposting and purchasing advice
the more interesting stuff comes from 51nb and tp forums anyway
So I've recently fallen for the Thinkpad meme and bought a T420.
Installed Win7, cracked it and struggled with the drivers for a bit. Most other issues I've since had (some of which made no goddamn sense) magically disappeared.
So now what do I do?
>>52082737
You use it you fucking retard.
>>52082767
I am, but all I do is jerk off and shitpost on 4chan.
I wanna do something else.
>>52082794
Install linux on it.
Learn to program.
>>52082794
>I wanna do something else.
How about
>Getting a job
>Getting an education
>Getting a life
>Getting a gf
>>52082812
Was thinking of doing that, I started learning Python a while back but dropped it when I decided I had no use for it.
>>52082821
>tfw no qt job
I could do without a gf for a while I think.
>>52082890
>I decided I had no use for it.
Some things are just satisfying, you can worry about having a use for it later.
Just bought this T500 for a friend. It was cheap, and is working condition. Planning on installing mint xfce.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/351605406439?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
>>52082950
>installing antisemitic distros
bad goy
Jews provide hummus here in america, therefore they are of great importance in modern society.
>>52080185
Dont. they're selling x220 units on eBay for 100 dollars right now. Get one of tgose instead
>>52076329
>Other business laptops are also welcome in /tpg/ (e.g. Dell Latitude/Precision, HP EliteBook/ZBook).
Well here goes, is there such a thing as 3rd party (or original..?) EliteBook batteries with higher capacity than the OEM ones? It's time to get a new one after using the original one for 4 years, it would be great if I could squeeze out 3 or 4 hours out of my laptop (it barely got past the 2 hour mark with a brand new battery IIRC). Pic related HP Elitebook 8560w.
too many chinkpads
HP Elitebook 8470p reporting it
i5-3320M
320GB HDD-> waiting for a 250GB SSD
Msata? No Idea can hardly find anything and when I opened it up I only found a slot for the wireless card
>only 720p but still nice
got it in great condition with 1 year warrenty from a second hand company. Could have saved maybe 50$ but having a money bac security for that seemed worth it.
Chinkpad would have cost me 150$ more with the same specs...
I've been having some really annoying issues with the touchpad on my T430. After I use 2-finger scrolling, sometimes the mouse will freeze for a few seconds so you can't move it around with the touchpad. It will also tend to be bouncy and jerky when I'm trying to scroll, which makes it difficult to use. Is this indicative of needing to replace the touchpad altogether?
>>52081595
>Except that IBM didn't design any of these series, did they?
T and X series were handed over, and the W series was created to follow after the 15.1" T60p/T61p at which lelnovo had taken over the Thinkpad line.
You're right about the streamlining of features though, that's why anything after the *20 series are met with disdain and people who ordered anything new from lelnovo are laughed at.
>>52082590
bump
>>52083053
I think you can remove the cd-rom drive from the upgrade bay and put a hdd caddy in there. I did it with mine (post above yours) and now I have 1.5tb of hdd in total.
>>52083081
T450s is a pretty nice machine, along with the P series.
anyone have experience with newegg's refurbished thinkpads. $260 USD for an x220 an ok price? How would you expect the battery life to be on a refurb?
>>52083069
That happens to almost all windows trackpad drivers, unavoidable I believe because it works wonders on ganoo.
>>52082676
>cool style
My sides are now approaching Neptune.
>>52083174
eh, I like it
>>52083170
It can't be this bad, right? This is unusable...T__T
>>52083136
Don't do it senpai. Always use ebay.
I made the mistake of buying an x201 tablet that was refurbished for 280. Returned it and bought on from ebay for 150 instead.
>>52083042
Not recommended, you won't get better batteries that the OEM ones.
Best bet is to rebuild them yourself. Buy good quality (don't skip this) high capacity (not fake capacity that offer chink cells) batteries and put them in the old battery case. All of them have to 18650 cells have to have the same capacity, voltage remains the same in the 18650 li-ion.
>>52083188
It is indeed, not only happens to thinkpads. My Dell had the exactly same behaviour.
I think it is the driver since it works FLAWLESS under ganoo/loonix. Try it out there and you will see.
How long does the battery of a typical t420 running Linux last?
I just fucked the charger on my t60 so i may as well upgrade to a better model.
Also, what models will give me longer life with similar specs to the t420? it must have a touch pad so fuck off with X series shit.
>>52083296
X series onward the x201 I believe have a touchpad, my lord.
X series will give you longer battery runtime, sire, since the screen is smaller and the backlight is one of the most energy demanding elements.
May I suggest sir a t430 or newer? More energy efficient, capacity for a 9-cell battery plus built in 3-cell battery for amazing battery life.
>>52083338
>t430
Little bit to expensive.
>X series onward the x201 I believe have a touchpad, my lord.
Oh ok, will look into it.
>>52083296
>>52083365
X220 gets around an hour per cell, highly recommended. The touchpad is kind of ass but it is there. Combine new genuine 9cell with slice battery and you can shitpost all day long.
>>52083414
hm i can actually afford this, will definitely consider this too.
So between an x220 and a t420, which would you get? i don't really care about weight that much, i do care about performance, i also care about graphics and modern OpenGL support enough to play chinese cartoons in mpv, but battery is also important, possibly more important than the others.
I think I'm leaning towards x220 now, will it fulfil those things?
>>52083218
Thanks man. Wouldn't have guessed laptop batteries to be made of these aa-shaped battery cells.
>>52083467
Yeah sure, my sandy bridge i5 dell could do all that.
Beware however that the X220 while having a small screen, it also has lower resolution. 1366x768. It can also be IPS for better viewing angles and colors. The IPS panel is guaranteed in the tablet version,
The T420 has a 1600x900 panel as the highest end option.TN only.
>>52083524
I'm still trying to figure out if AA batteries are the 1865 required by laptop batteries, could very well be. Size is important since they all have to fit in the case.
Requires soldering skills of course, not a big deal.
>>52083550
nope, AA are 1.5V per cell (1.2V per cell if rechargable (Ni-Cd or NiMH)), 18650 are Li-ion 3.7V per cell
>>52083584
That sucks, that means it will fucking hard to find them around here.
There's a fucking import tax for batteries, $20 for each item. It ends up cheaper to order a new battery from lenovo.
>52076361
>What Thinkpad do you have and why that model?
T530
>Which OS(s) do you use and why?
Win 10 & Mint
>What do you use it for?
General web, Photoshop, school
>Do you use a HDD or a SSD and why? What capacity and why?
250gb ssd boot with 320gb HDD in caddy for storage
>Do you use your M-SATA slot? If so, what capacity and why?
No
>How much RAM do you have?
8gb
>What Thinkpad do you have and why that model?
x201 tablet because touch screen is neat with the pen
>Which OS(s) do you use and why?
Trisquel
>What do you use it for?
Everything except vidya. Diablo 2 works nicely though
>Do you use a HDD or a SSD and why? What capacity and why?
I swapped out my 128gb ssd for a 750gb hdd to store more shit and animes. If I ever sell it, I'll put the ssd back in.
>Do you use your M-SATA slot? If so, what capacity and why?
not sure what that is desu
>How much RAM do you have?
4gb, most I used is 1.5
>>52076361
>x220 Tablet, muh gimmick, I use it for drawing tho.
>Windows 10 on main bay, just werkz, planning on Arch partitition tho
>note, paper, eviews, SPSS
>Kingston HyperX, 120GB, Samsung is overpriced here. I only use it for program storing, anime and the rest on external HDDs
>no, but will use it for eGPU someday
>6GB 1333Mhz, will upgrade to 16GB 1866Mhz, it's cheap.
>>52076361
X250 - work bought it for me, plus I get to keep it
Win 10 Pro
Simcity, Mountain Blade, Work Stuff
512gb SSD
No
8gb of RAM
are the prices of the t420s or x220s likely to increase in the coming months or not?
I kinda want to buy one but my current laptop isn't dead yet.
>>52076361
>What Thinkpad do you have and why that model?
t420 in mint condition, no scratch or any sign of wear
it's better for the eyes than the small 11" x series
>Which OS(s) do you use and why?
arch + openbox
it's lightweight
>What do you use it for?
for nothing, it's been sitting in its case for months now
>Do you use a HDD or a SSD and why? What capacity and why?
128GB SSD
>Do you use your M-SATA slot? If so, what capacity and why?
no
>How much RAM do you have?
4gigs
>>52076372
TigerP
It's a T60p, I've named all of my computers after tanks
>>52076361
>What Thinkpad do you have and why that model?
X200 Tablet, it was cheap and I like the digitizer
>Which OS(s) do you use and why?
Windows 10 for now, because I'm too lazy to pick a Linux distro
>What do you use it for?
Everything, programming, pornz, light gaming
>Do you use a HDD or a SSD and why? What capacity and why?
HDD, 160GB, came with the laptop, not upgraded yet
>Do you use your M-SATA slot? If so, what capacity and why?
ha
>How much RAM do you have?
4GB
>>52076361
>>What Thinkpad do you have and why that model?
W530 because i didnt know any better.
>>Which OS(s) do you use and why?
A collection of GNU/loonix, work related and in private. Oh and Win7 for CAD, also work.
>>What do you use it for?
Office work, CAD, interwebs, movies
>>Do you use a HDD or a SSD and why? What capacity and why?
Yes. 250 ssd in main because it's fast, 500 hdd in ultrabay for data storage.
>>How much RAM do you have?
Sweet16
I wanna get myself a T420(s) because the W530 is total overkill and also too much of a pain to carry around. I also hate nvidia optimus, cannot use miniDisplayPort unless switching to discrete graphics in bios (in w530, the miniDP is hardwired to the discrete graphics). I rarely need discrete graphics though.
Do you guys know if the T420 / T420s has the same problem? Or can i into miniDP without switching on the power hungry discrete graphics? Couldn't find reliable information so maybe someone can tell from experience.
>>52083018
The inly x220s I found have Hdd and ram missing, I think I'd rather just get the x201, it's good enough for what I need it for
>>52084982
decrease anon.
>>52076372
Whatever the model is.
>>52076361
>T450s, the T series on offer new
>Windows 7 because I have become those annoying guys who kept using XP in 2007
>Programming, Excel, word processing, web surfing
>128GB SSD. I like the boot speed but I am largely cloud based in terms of files
>I think I have one or two but I don't use them
>8GB, I don't think I need more at this point
>>52085832
good to know, thanks
>>52076361
>What Thinkpad do you have and why that model?
Thinkpad x301, it's the most premium thinkpad I've ever used. The rubberized keyboard is so pleasant to type on and the weight is perfect. I just wish the battery life was longer.
>Which OS(s) do you use and why?
I just run linux on it since I prefer a NIX environment for development.
>What do you use it for?
School, programming, surfing, and other normal stuff I guess? It's a laptop.
>Do you use a HDD or a SSD and why? What capacity and why?
Came with a 64gb ssd, it's large enough for my needs and it helps keep my laptop running smooth since the processor is so slow.
>Do you use your M-SATA slot? If so, what capacity and why?
Don't have one
>How much RAM do you have?
4gb
Convince me not to sell my desktop and use my thinkpad exclusively.
Will I regret it? It's a T430.
On my desktop I usually just browse the internet, play videos and music. No games.
I was thinking about keeping a widescreen monitor to enjoy the displayport.
>>52086612
Been debating it but I have too many hard drives in my desktop for all my shit. Maybe if I had an ssd and hdd it could work.
>>52086612
>On my desktop I usually just browse the internet, play videos and music. No games.
You probably won't regret it, then. Especially not if you get a dock for your T430 to have a permanent setup at your desk that you can just plug it into.
Hard drives might be a concern, but for that you can always get a NAS.
rate the x1 carbon /10
10 being the dankest
Any reason not to install Arch on my x230T? I heard that it's hard to get the touch screen running
>>52086641
>>52086716
Don't think I can afford a proper NAS even after selling the tower but good point, hard drives will be an issue.
>>52086888
Im planing on trying for a w series with a dock and nas drive, but thats still a good chunk to retire my desktop.
>>52080973
I prefer to buy cheaper without the HD then install a cheap SSD. Hard drives on old notebooks are slow as old folks fucking.
>>52081300
It will run Xubuntu fine. I have it on a weaker spec X200.
>>52085806
I wish it worked out beyter for you. The x220 will last a bit longer than the x201. Most people already have an hdd or ssd laying around and can swap in their old ram.
