/wt/ watch thread:
dogshit christmas gifts edition
This thread is about the appreciation of watches, as well as the micro-engineering and materials engineering that is required to make a fine watch.
Required viewing for newbies:
https://youtu.be/508-rmdY4jQ
Previous thread
>>52050886
first for qt's
>>52072900
second for im not cute
>>52072955
>>52072900
Nice dubs, but he meant his Margi
Don't be so vain
>>52072984
mind reader?
>>52072955
talking about my qt margi, which would fit on your qt wrists
>>52073027
probbly too big
First for lume dials
>>52073027
I like that alpha better than I like most omegas.
Does omega make a two tone dial?
>mfw no cute wrists
You'll have to make due with wet wrists
>>52073074
it's based off a rolex paul newman, and i'm sure at least one of the MOOOOOOOOOOON watches has panda subdials
>>52073074
they make this sexy one
>>52073102
>tfw a 9mm handgun in my country will cost at least $1500
>tfw you have to keep it locked up at the shooting range for the first 12 months
>tfw no face
>>52073184
tfw bought one underaged nib for 300$ and carry it in my stocking
>>52073196
No idea what you mean
It's cheaper to buy a glock or a generic revolver from Ahmed then to go and get a licensed one
>>52073169
Fuck I love speedys
>>52073169
That's a good one. Is that dial made out of or meant to be made out of moonrock?
>>52073259
meteorite
>>52073240
he means he bought a handgun, NIB (new in box) for $300 when he was not of legal age to buy one (usually 21), and he keeps it in his sock
>>52072984
>>52073102
>>52073156
ITT watches and guns
>>52073429
>he got the M9A3
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAH
i guess gun time
>>52073474
are you ok anon?
did you lose your glasses?
>>52073474
thats not the m93a you turkey
>>52072851
>>52073474
Try again.
>tfw dirty gun and watch
>>52073475
Schmidt-Ruin 1911.
Or maybe a K31 if you aren't that much of a hipster
>>52073520
When I first saw it I thought 'oh fuck me dead some diesel tier shitty multi dial watch.'
I was pleasantly surprised by the quality of this fucker.
>>52073548
I didnt mean guess the gun
everyone knows what a k31 is, besides you apparently you cant even tell it apart from a g11
>>52073573
Clearly not
>>52073490
>>52073494
No shit fgts.
It was a long day im off to bed
>>52073602
its so easy to tell the difference
are m16a1s and a2's the same to you too?
>>52073630
No. I'm more familiar with them though.
>>52073679
>bitches about off topic posts
>doesn't post a watch
Eat dicks
>>52073723
wearing the exact same watch right now, but on the metal band
sup senpai
Any cheap hand winding watch that isn't dogshit or potentially filled with human shit like HMT?
This is a big watch, even larger than the Seiko jumbo chrono.
>49mm Lug to Lug
>44.5mm Diameter without crown
>>52073774
It's pretty gud, I got the wrong size straps like a dumbass. May go to leather.
>>52073793
Do you consider hamiltons to be dogshit?
Or not cheap enough?
>>52073824
About as large as I'd go on my wrist though
>>52073869
>>52073793
vostok is brand new 30 bucks
So did anyone get anything interesting yesterday?
>>52073972
I got myself something, and it came early, arriving the 24th instead of the 30th.
I've been posting the hell out of it though
>>52072984
>tfw small wrists
>can't wear big watches
Life is pain
>>52065105
Curious, so asking this again.
>>52051436
>>52051463
Wow that's way more simple than I imagined. Kinda makes it cooler.
I have a feeling this is a dumb question, but so the 214 oscillates at 365 times a second and produces a completely smooth sweep. Yet, the video said a quartz crystal oscillates at over 32,000/sec.
Why the sweep for the 214 and why the 1tick/sec for quartz?
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005ECKPEA?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=ox_sc_act_title_1&smid=A38ZZQJ53RZRAA
Decent flieger? Any others I should look at instead?
>>52073972
i like this
what watch is it?
>>52074211
Pretty sure its a modded invicta
>>52073972
Is that strap new?
>>52074160
Steinhart Nav type a or b
They have it in 44 or 47mm diameters
>>52074133
Regular quartz tick once a second to conserve power. Accutrons burn through batteries much faster and I've heard about drift issues, too.
Several years ago, Seiko was working on a quartz movement that beat at a fairly high rate (similar to a mechanical) but didn't drain the battery excessively. I can't find the link/too lazy to look, but from what I recall they shelved it, as the market was moving towards autos at the mid-high end.
Is there a kinetic or solar quartz with a high beat rate?
>>52072851
How about an Elegant Oris instead? It's Only for Serious peuble.
>>52074133
The 214's vibrate at 360 Hz. It's smooth mostly because the tuning fork pushes the index wheel every vibration.
>>52074481
pic related
>>52074211
Heavily modded 8926ob. I like it too, I've got nicer watches but I've got more of an attachment to it after doing so much work on it.
>>52074222
Yeah, only watch related present I got yesterday. I couldn't justify buying it for myself but it's a great strap, the most accurate original Bond strap I could find.
>>52073972
I got a new strap for the first watch I ever bought (at The Bay, paid too much, came with a cheesy bracelet).
New model for the new year!
I plan on touring this fucker across yurop as I did my other bagel.
>>52074895
I hope you're going to put it on top of various food stuffs
>>52074917
You're damn right I will!
>>52074999
Checked
>>52075190
dat fuckin soki
Posted this question in last thread and got some good ideas
What to get next?
I'm thinking I want a diver, a chronograph, and a proper dress watch. Maybe a fleiger for fun but I don't like big watches.
I'm a poorfag, most chronos turn me off but >>52073120 looks pretty sweet, and it's within my price range. As I've said before, I'm a poorfag.
>>52075636
I think you should look at a proper dress watch next. After that the diver and chrono.
>>52074415
>>52074481
Ok, got it. Thanks for the info.
It's crazy that the 214s are still in working order. With those hair thin coils and all the wear, pushing every vibration Jesus, you'd think they'd crap out.
I know at least two anons have them, if you're in here tonight, recommend?
>>52075671
Any suggestions? I am a sucker for "dressy" watches, dressed up sport watches. I want the seiko alpinist, I think it's like SARG035 or something.
>>52075741
SARB017
My grand parents offered to get me a watch for graduating uni. I know nothing about them except that the black/chrome ones with a lot of hands and shit look cool. Any recommendations?
>>52075741
The Alpinist is a nice watch, but it's not really a dressy watch. Something like a SARB033 is closer to a dressed up sports watch.
But my suggestion is get a true dress watch. You can get a sporty/dressy watch later- get full representations of each individual type first. The Seiko Dolce quartz is great, as it's a (fairly) affordable high-accuracy quartz watch:
http://www.seiyajapan.com/collections/seiko/products/seiko-dolce-quartz-sacm171
It's small and slim and restrained like a dress watch should be. It has an interesting feature (high accuracy). That's a good combination.
>>52075636
How often do you find yourself in a situation thst requires wearing a proper dress watch? An alpinist wouldn't be suitable for a job interview or another very formal event. An orient bambino is a good choice, I don't know what your budget is but a bambino is only like $120. In house movement made in Japan
>>52075792
Omega speedmaster
Sinn 756
IWC Pilot
IWC Portuguese
Or less dials
JLC Reverso Duo
>>52075792
What sort of price range are they offering you?
>>52075689
One thing to keep in mind is the old 214s are somewhat susceptible to positional variance. At least mine and watchmakeranon's are. If you just want a tuning fork watch, the omega f300s are much less affected by it. The omega tuning fork movements were developed by the same man who did the accutron 214 too.
If you want a spaceview though, go for it.
>>52075792
Give a price range and decide if you want Quartz or mechanical and what designs you might like (use google for designs and if you don't know what Quartz and mechanical is)
>>52075847
Not often. A more versatile watch appeals to me, but I do like the bambino and duke from orient. I was looking at the mako/ray series as well.
I also have a SNE393, which I have grown less fond of, not because it's quartz, but because of the bezel design, something about it seems unappealing. But that's sort of pseudo-dress as well
Would a rodina/tisell bauhaus look too large on 6.5 inch skelly wrists?
>>52075883
quartz is fine. I didn't get a price range but I'd want to keep it under $300-$400
>>52076225
One option is to have a look at Seiko or Citizen chronographs, and pick the one you think looks most interesting to you at around that price. Just check the overall size of the watch. If you have a thin wrist, a large watch (44-48mm) will look strange.
I ordered this seiko and a black hirsch band, bad choice?
>>52076511
Getting the hirsch band was a good choice. It livens up even a cheap watch >>52074821 like I have. That Seiko is a decent quartz- the 7N43 has good shock resistance and reliability, the crystal is sapphire, WR 10 bar.
As I've fallen down the vintage Seiko rabbit hole lately, its been interesting to see the historical references being made by some of their current models.
The SDGMs actually bear a striking resemblance in their case design and proportions to the old Seikomatic watches, which were quite large for their era as well.
Note the pictured AUTOMATIC is not my own, its a picture I found online, don't blame me for the unscrewed crown.
>>52076555
Nice, ty.
>>52076357
44m-48mm is giant size, not large
>>52076789
I don't disagree, but it's only slightly bigger than average nowadays
>tfw small wrists
>>52076789
>>52076842
>tfw no cute wrists
>>52073520 is 45mm
>>52077200
45mm of pure, unadulterated, Columbian, dogshit
>>52077239
b-but, muh swiss!
>>52077260
Pure, unadulterated, Columbian, swiss, grade "D" dogshit
>>52077319
Oh come on now, it coulda been worse. At least they didn't think; "Hey, Anon likes watches right? How about [insert fashion brand here]?"
I find it interesting that there is someone out there who took a dogshit "only the brave" tier design and built it with quality.
That's real carbon fiber, has alright lume, very nice band, and decent case finishing.
>>52077379
Torgoen is one of those "kinda sorta" Swiss watches where they do the bare minimum to call it Swiss Made. Some of them don't even rise to that level and they don't mark them Swiss Made on the dial.
They aren't badly finished, of course- I got one for my Dad because he needed a cheap GMT for a trip. But "Swiss Made" is stretching it.
>>52077454
I completely agree of course. Case made in china and final assembly/movements done somewhere in a swiss sweatshop.
But it was a gift of course and I ain't arguing against that. I travel a lot hence they chose the 3 dialed one. Not my first choice.
>>52077454
>here's the part in the production where we add the expensive swiss case screws, these are expensive as hell!, they cost almost as much as the rest of the watch!
>>52077496
don't think that's how it works. There are laws for these kind of things.
>>52077574
It's a joke
https://youtu.be/mBFI8ScdE4E
>>52077665
Can someone explain just why Archie hate TGV so much?
I watched one of tgv's Christmas videos and the guy has a nice house, seemingly huge loving family, a shit ton of really nice watches and a waifu.
Archie on the other hand looks like the definition of misery.
Is ol' Arch just jealous?
>>52078224
>I watched a video where the urban gentry tried really hard to make himself look good
Interesting
>>52078279
So any & all of his videos then?
>>52078279
>Can afford apartment in NYC
>Somehow isn't living a good life
Do you have any idea how expensive shit is here?
Still doesn't answer why Archie hates him so much and even has a little parody snap thing now.
>>52078224
I think archie is funny. Anyone with the nerve to ask for a donation while wearing a gold rolex is pretty funny to me.
>>52078320
Pretty much
>>52078347
>money = good life
anyway archie isn't full-on serious in his vids, don't analyze him too much based on them. its humorous, maybe a lot of stuff is more or less true, but its kind of a caricature of himself, one could say.
and most of the "fighting" between watch enthusiast youtubers isn't very serious, more like joking around, dunno about this one in particular though.
russian design yo
Jomashop has a new 300 Seamaster for like $4900
Would you guys say that's a good deal?
>>52075881
Mind explaining positional variance and what causes it?
>>52079009
Meaning it'll change how many seconds per day it'll gain/lose depending on its position.
>>52079037
Oh, like literal position? Sitting in a case vs. on a wrist? Face up vs. face down? Etc...
>>52079055
Yes. Watchmakeranon told me he gets about 8 seconds of variance with his. With it sitting 12 up mine loses 1 second per day though. The same as it was rated for.
>>52079081
Interesting, I'm surprised that affects the vibration so much
>>52078841
I'm retarded
What's the difference?
>>52079137
Might be due to the age of the components, who knows. Bulova only guaranteed that it'd do 1s/day accuracy for its first year after buying it.
>>52079081
>>52079137
Pretty sure the 219 (single coil fork) is not affected by this. It is, however, affected by what surface it is rested on. IE, it may gain ~15 minutes a day if it is on a hard surface and be perfectly fine on another surface.
This could be fixed with a bit of adjustment. Can't be bothered though.
>>52079163
Much better movement on the $50 version.
Has a "Beijing" movement complete with serial number instead of the completely untraceable shittily finished POS on the cheaper one.
Trying to decide between the two. I feel like the white watch face would just be better overall...
>>52079221
>depends on the surface
Fuck, you're right. That makes perfect sense. Things vibrate much better on something hard vs. something softer that would absorb more of the energy.
>>52079221
Wish I could get my hands on one of the 720Hz omegas. The microrotor in that is fascinating.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvIeSQ-NOH0
>>52079259
Yes, but I have on multiple occasions found my 219 watch to have skipped ahead minutes to even hours overnight. This is because it may be resonating with whatever surface it may be resting on and skipping teeth on the index wheel. Causing it to run twice as fast.
I suppose it could be the cause for your small inaccuracies but no way to be sure.
>>52079221
>>52079259
I can confirm this.
>pic related
It's the surface, not the position.
Well, the position to a pretty slight degree when compared to surface.
Surface has a very noticeable difference. Not ~15min more like +/- 1min a day if left on that surface all day.
>>52079246
yes go with white
>>52079342
I think my ratchet pawls are just in fucky positions.
Also I oiled them. I later found out that they discourage this.
>>52079353
Was about to suggest that it might be something to do with the ratcheting pawl. Mine came back from bob piker with it overtightened (nevermind the multiple other issues), so it'd gain several hours per day.
>>52079328
>twice as fast
It could be resonating with whatever it's resting on, but I've never seen anything that drastic with mine. To be fair I've had mine for less than a month.
What type of battery are you using? I think a more likely cause of the double indexing would be the 1.5v battery.
>>52079353
See above (if you're him?).
>>52079388
Both me.
I do all my own watch service.
I am aware that the voltage can cause issues, but in most cases this can be eliminated by a pawl adjustment.
I'm pretty sure I can solve my problems by tightening a pawl and/or removing the oil. Of course I can never find time to do this anyway.
>>52079427
Before you try a the adjustment or removing the oil, I recommend trying out one of the Accucell-1s.
Mine was running fast originally with a 387S button cell. I didn't want to jump to an adjustment so I ordered an Accucell just to see if they actually did anything. 8 or so bucks. Dramatically helped. I've heard mixed reviews, some watches are more temperamental I guess, but for me it worked.
>>52079496
Interesting, I never knew they were reproducing accutron batteries.
Thank's anon.
>>52079533
Yeah, check eBay. There are a few sellers. I got mine from some dude who has been making them for years. nostalgia2000 or something is his user name. If you can't find it I'll post an actual link. 214s get an Accucell-1, but there's also a 2. He was good about my questions so I'm sure he'll help you out too.
iirc, it's a 387S with a diode attached to put out the correct 1.37v.
Sounded a little shadey, but like I said, I'm running smooth now. And he's got reviews to back him up
>>52079221
So the price hike on the bagels is a good thing then, and not just chink jewery?
Does anyone know when is meranom restocking the Vostok Amphibia Neptune SE?
>>52080701
nope
>>52080701
That Neptune is kill, supposedly there will be another generation in early MMXVI. There's already been a couple of generations already, pic related.
>>52079246
My vote is white,
The gold on black seems gaudy but the gold on white feels clean.
Any of you guys have been to BaselWorld?
I plan to go with a friend and we are looking for a place to stay for those 7 days that wont cost an arm and a leg.
>>52078841
Pretty sure that's a tongji movement on the left.
Interesting history behind them, and they can actually run pretty damn well if the QC is good.
Only problem is that they were primarily designed to be manual-wind and the rotors that they put on don't do the best job of winding it up.
Pretty indestructible too.
>tfw my Amphibia gains ~60 seconds a day
A tiny nudge on the regulator is all it would take right?
>>52082836
Maybe.
Feel free to experiment it, there is some timegrapher app that might help (Though you should pirate it unless you want to pay shekels).
>>52080189
Hard to say for sure.
In this WUS thread he has a bagel with the "Beijing" movement and it isn't finished quite as well.
http://forums.watchuseek.com/f72/what-movement-bagelsport-submariner-style-watch-632874.html
>>52082699
Ah ok. Good to know.
>>52081484
air bnb?
>>52073120
>>52073074
Omega make a First Omega In Space gold version with the panda dial. Sweet looking watch
>>52083456
>>52073120
>>52073074
Forgot pic
>>52074016
how are you liking it?
>>52081484
france
Why haven't you maximized your chances yet, /wt/?
