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>Requesting purchase advice:
http://pastebin.com/hjHkKDyM

>/g/ wiki headphone FAQ:
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php?title=Headphones

>Previous thread:
>>52058096
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So I think I found a pair of headphones I like and which I will continue to use.

I still need a microphone however. I tried various clip mics, Blue Yeti and some of my old Headsets (HyperX Cloud II, Sennheier PC 320 etc.) as comparison. All this made me realize I definitely need something with noise canceling (mechanic keyboard, air humifier etc.) just like the headset mics had.
Anything you guys can recommend? Headsets are fine as well, as long the sound and built quality are decent as well. Plus point if it makes my voice deeper/more manly
t. 22 y old

I did some research about the modmic but got a mixed feeling after reading some bad reviews and hearing some sound examples.
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>>52066830
I think you'll have to go pretty fucking far to find a mic that doesn't pick up a blue switch mechanical keyboard

just use push to talk
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>>52066860
>just use push to talk
Sorry., not an option.
But I don't get why there are no normal mics with noise cancellation. I'd just go with the modmic if anyone here can tell me that's actually good and worth the price.
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>>52066948
do you know how loud blue switch mechanical keyboards are?
you can't cancel that out

why can't you use PTT
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>>52066948
first of all, lol at you falling for the stupid blue switch mechanical keyboard bullshit this board spouts
also lol at your lack of knowledge in many ways: just because youre using skipe doesnt mean you cant have ptt
retarded kid
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>>52066975
>>52067053
I don't have a blue switch mech keyboard, what does that even mean? Google doesn't help much. Mine's a normal microsoft mechanical keyboard and usually mics don't pick it up, except the Blue Yeti which picked up about everything (gain/volume control didn't make much of a difference).
Also I don't use skype nor ptt.
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Should I /g/?

http://www.amazon.com/Superlux-681-Dynamic-Semi-Open-Headphones/dp/B002GHIPYI

On a hard 50 limit since I'm saving for a new pc but I can't fucking take these earphones anymore
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>>52067078
definitely the best headphones at that price
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>>52067077
>what does that even mean?
you know this little about your mechanical keyboard?

pull up one of the keycaps, what does it look like, what colour does it have

unless you're using buckling, blue switches or unpadded topre, mics shouldn't pick up the noise, because there shouldn't be noise, unless you're bottoming out like a retard
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>>52066459
>>52066262
>is only loosely defined
Loosely defined above 10kHz. There is an ideal response to 711, but the tolerance bands disappear from the strict +/1-1.5 dB range above 10kHz; they don't have to stick to anything.

A few human subject measurements:

>Transfer Characteristics of Headphones Measured on Human Ears
Measurement of headphones by blocked canal method, and headphones measured.

>Magnitude and Phase Response Measurement of Headphones at the Eardrum
>Inter- and Intra-Individual Variability in the Blocked Auditory Canal Transfer Functions of Three Circum-Aural Headphones
Try and guess how these were measured.

There are more in the folder on Mega.
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>>52067117
It's just black and it doesn't make much noise indeed. As I said, I didn't have any problems until I tried a Blue Yeti and Sony ECMCS3 mic.
The Blue Yeti is an USB mic so I guess it doesn't matter to which PC I connect it to, but the Sony ECMCS3 definitely picked up a lot more noise while connected to my PC than connected to my Laptop. My Laptop has an intel mainboard an my PC the newest gaymen asus mainboard
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>>52067249
>It's just black
does it have the + shaped stem thingy like in my image?

desktop mics usually pick up more sound of the keyboard because of the vibrations travelling through your desk, I'm also assuming it wasn't placed between your keyboard and you, thus causing even more noise of your keyboard to be picked up by it in comparison to headset mics etc.

but the lavalier shouldn't have that much of a difference with a boom mic, unless it's too low or pointed towards your keyboard
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>>52067381
>does it have the + shaped stem thingy like in my image?
Can't check atm because I'm not home, but I think yes.
>desktop mics usually pick up more sound of the keyboard because of the vibrations travelling through your desk
I put some soft cloth under it, didn't help much nor make a difference
> I'm also assuming it wasn't placed between your keyboard and you
It was, I placed it everywhere. I even played it behind myself in my back, keyboard still got picked up while I was talking, but the keyboard itself didn't trigger the voice activation.
>unless it's too low or pointed towards your keyboard
probably too low but i don't have a way to fix it over head to my mouth without buying one of these mic stand things. Also I don't like it hanging around in my field of view. I rather get a modmic or headset then.
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>tfw
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HE-400i on sale for $300 again, would you guys recommend it as a replacement for the HD600?
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would it work?
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>>52067575
yes
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Hi, looking for some cans:

>Budget
Less than €300
>Location
Europe
>Source
Desktop, Native instruments DJ DAC, max 600ohm
>Preferred type of headphone
Over-ear
>Open or closed
Open
>Comfort level
Comfy

Currently use th Hd-25 for everything but I want a dedicated desktop hp.
Prefer bass heavy, main use is listening to music (house, techno) and gaymes.

I'm thinking DT990 pro, can get for €140.

Thanks!
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>>52067642
no
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Hey /hpg/
I search for the overview infographics from here.
In the /g/ wiki page I found the one for >200$ but I'm searching for the one for low priced ones. (~<70$)

Can some anon give me a hint where to find it?
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>Budget
50€ (up to 60€ with delivery)
>Location
Croatia (small shithole of a country in Europe, so Amazon is out of question..)
>Source
Desktop, HTC One M7
>Preferred type of headphone
any, preferably in ear
>Open or closed
closed, no good open in that price range
>Comfort level
Comfy
>Preferred tonal balance
more bass
>Preferred music
EDM
>Past headphones
pair of cheap Panasonic RPHJE120K
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>>52067747
what about with a dynamic mic?
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>>52067796
over ears, Superlux HD661/HD668B for sure, nothing beats them at that pricepoint

in ears, I don't know, maybe get a pair of pistons 3.0?
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So 85dB is the loudest I should have my headphones. But assuming I don't have professional test equipment and controlled environment, how do I know how loud that is? My volume setting is not gong to be the same as anyone else's because every device in the chain is different, so there's really no way I can objectively tell how loud the sound hitting my eardrums is. I can't rely on others' subjective descriptions either, because everyone's threshold for "loud" is different. Maybe I'm missing something? Any way to estimate it?

You might think I'm being overly concerned about this, but I have headphones on a lot and I really don't want to get tinnitus.
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For those that were thinking about getting an amp

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/fiio-e10k-usb-dac-and-headphone-amplifier?referer=2YVXYC&mode=guest_open
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How are the 400i's for rock?
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>>52067900
>Paired with a LMH6643 op amp the result is tighter bass, clear mids and highs and more accurate dynamics.
And you fags say amps don't give better fidelity
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>>52068101
400i is quite neutral, so it's good for anything
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>Budget
$100-$200
>Location
Norway
>Source
No amp as of yet.
>Preferred type of headphone
IEMs or none bulky on ear
>Open or closed
no preferance
>Comfort level
preferably comfortably.
>Preferred tonal balance
Warm
>Preferred music
Electronic, EDM in general
>Past headphones
Bose ® SoundTrue In Ear
HyperX cloud 2
Sony MDR-XB450
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>>52067797
no.
>>52067900
>Paired with a LMH6643 op amp the result is tighter bass, clear mids and highs and more accurate dynamics.
why is this allowed
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Are M50x a meme-tier? Well, according to how it's been shilled on /g/, it is. So, should I get one of these? I've got ATH-SJ11 and they're god-tier for its price, but now I want something better.
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>>52068360
do you like niggerbass?
if not, get m40x
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>>52068360
terrible design
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>>52068360
go to the mall, go into headphone store, try them on. Alternatively, buy them on amazon, return if dont like. Dont forget brainwavz pads
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>>52068380
Bass can be deteriorated with equalizer, but I'm going to take a look at these as well, thank you.

>>52068419
I don't care about design, they just have to be comfortable to be used for 5+ hours successively, like SJ-11.
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>>52067704
Never post what you did in the last thread again.
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>>52068360

M50x is a solid headphone, just try to get them under $130. They can be kind of tinny sounding, but non-fatiguing and the noise isolation is good. If you find them too bassy, you can get some velour pads which will lessen the bass and make them more comfortable. Also, build quality is good for a cheap headphone and you get 3 cords, it's a decent value for the price.

If you want something more neutral and cleaner sounding, the 598s would be better if you don't need noise isolation. They're around the same price, but they're not a portable headphone.

>>52068380

I didn't find the bass to be over empowering, it's a nice amount without being too much. Sure, I wouldn't use it for music like acoustic or classical, but it's pretty great for hip-hop, pop, edm, etc without being too much. It's punchy and "fun" sounding.
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>>52068480
design would affect how comfortable it is and the durability

so you dont care about design?
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>>52068502
Is there any way to mod them for use with regular cables? Fuck their proprietary bullshit
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Hello everyone, how are the Superlux HD668?
My sister wanted to gift those to me, just wanted to know how they are.
I have (half-broken) AKG K518BLK, how does the two compare?
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You idiots stroke your tiny penises to shitty over priced headphones. Its like apple users, shitty low quality components "apple logo" somehow makes it worth 50 times as much.

I have a few retard friends like most of you talking all high and mighty about your 1,500 dollar + headphones. They sound so shitty I nearly laughed myself instead having the shits.

They whine about not affording a good car/suv. But they buy the stupidest shit like over priced lego headphones or gay ass water cooled GFX cards. For nothing gained.

I have a pre-built pc / replaced gpu / psu under 1000 bucks and it plays as good as better than more costume builds. And my 20 dollar headset sounds better than any of those shitty overpriced brands you shits drool over.

I own a X6 BMW my own home, no bills. Yet somehow my idiot friends and retards on /g/ think that having a 3k+ pc that barely performs and a over priced Walmart ... excuse me Amazon Chinese knock-off headset is worth having no money for anything else. fucking lol, I enjoy fucking girls and still watching ching-chong cartoons. My priorities are straight.
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Still waiting for feedback on the AKG K 451, from last thread. Does anybody here own them? Decent enough for the 50 bucks price range?
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>>52068597
iirc they're a more bassy version of the 661's with a different headrest
you should be good

>>52068626
I know this is copypasta but
>costume builds
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>>52068502
I can't order or even take a look at 598's. They are not being sold anymore, at least, haven't seen one.

>>52068541
By design I meant the appearance, how does it look, not its inner parts like pads, etc. I'm careful enough to not break things after a month of using it, but if design does include the things like comfort and durability, then yes, I do care.

>>52068476
I live in [spoiler]shit[/spoiler] third-world country, I can't try it right now, but I will do this while I'm in another town. Thank you.
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>>52068626
Been a while, thanks.
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>>52068640
why do you do this?

>>52068626
this is my favorite pasta
>chinese knockoff
no, theyre a completely chinese made product in the first place
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I don't think I'm cut out to be an audiophile, I have a pair of Logitech UE 6000 and Siberia V2s and the Siberia V2s sound better to me :/
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>exactly what I want
>fragile cable

welp, back on the hunt
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jewbird x2: goyim boogaloo

y/n?
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>>52068899
Had one of those, whole damned thing is fragile.
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>>52068899
>>52068921
>snapheisers are fragile
>water is wet
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>headphone thread on /v/
>anon posts his turtle beach headset
every time
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>>52069020
I have one of those.
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>>52069020
Nobody cares, fuck off back to /v/
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Ey, guys. I'm looking to buy a new pair of sub-$200 headphones.

> Using USD
> Only Plugging Into Computer
> Full Sized
> Closed
> As comfy as possible
> neutral
> Currently using Walmart-Tier Skull Candies

Any help is appreciated.
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>>52068798
uh, ok. what is this supposed to prove?
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what does 'balanced' mean if it doesn't mean even amounts of bass, treble and mids?
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>>52068798
So you prefer the sound signature of the Siberia V2, big deal. Matter of taste.
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>>52069066
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balanced_audio
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>>52069066
it's a head-fi buzzword. ignore anyone using it
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>>52069086
nice meme, i'm talking sound signature
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>>52069044
770 pro
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i dont know shit about headphones and i need help it's worth getting these: http://www.amazon.com/Sony-MDRV6-Studio-Monitor-Headphones/dp/B00001WRSJ/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1451156893&sr=1-1&keywords=mdr+v6

over these: http://www.amazon.com/Superlux-HD681EVO-B-HD-681-Black/dp/B00CAG1ZAQ/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1451157063&sr=8-2&keywords=superlux+hd-681

amarite?
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>>52069066
high bass & treble

neutral is even amounts
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>>52069066
Balanced means balanced to the human ear.
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>>52069122
so v-shaped/u-shaped is now balanced?
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>>52069116
if you have the money to spare, yes, getting the MDR-V6/7506 or the ATH M40x is better than getting the superlux HD681
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>>52068996
So what brand do I want to be looking for if I want portable cans that won't fall apart in a year?
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>>52069129
yeah I agree it's a pretty bad name for it, I'm just saying what it means
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>>52069139
mdr-7506
ath-m40x
ideally you want to go with IEMs
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>>52069145
i just see it tossed around so frequently yet everyone has a different idea as to what it means
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>>52069160
well some people confuse it with neutral, others know that it's V shaped
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>>52069139
portapros
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>>52069139
meme50s desu
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>budget 200$
>location Europe
>open or closed: CLOSED
>Preffered music Heavy metal
>comfy level. Very comfy
>source. Motherboard, but planing to buy a DAC.
been looking at the beyerdynamics DT770. Will these be sufficient?
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I want a Bluetooth thing to make calls. Is there such thing as a comfy, high-quality BT headset, or should I just get something cheap and then get a second headset that's comfy as fuck?
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>>52069159
>m40x
is this some kind of meme cancer going round? I tried out both the 40x and 50x at a store in teh mall and the 40x has less bass and fake, shrill treble. Also the cable sucks.
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>>52069159
I don't like sticking things in my ears very much personally.
So there does not exist a $30-60 on-ear whose cable won't start doing that one-ear thing before next Christmas?
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>>52069275
>40x has less bass
well, this isn't necessarily a downside
I prefer nobass over niggerbass
they're also like 50$ cheaper

cables are the same IIRC but you get a third short, straight cable with the M50x
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>>52069263
>Bluetooth
how about you stop wasting our time with retarded questions
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What are the best headphones for watching movies?
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>>52069275
Are you perhaps black
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>>52069319
if you want to reduce bass on the 50x and increase comfort at the same time, change the pads out to brainwavz

>they're also like 50$ cheaper
have you considered getting a job dude?
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>>52069349
damn you must be proud of flipping burgers because you're so ready to spend that extra whole $50
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>>52069349
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amCND2ryyOk
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>>52069139
ffs the sennheiser HD-25(Aluminium)
Literally the toughest headphones for over 25 years
>inb4 cancer kiddo's spouting snapmemes
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>>52069349
>have you considered getting a job dude?
so anon why didn't you get the HD800s?
Or hell, why didn't you get Project Morpheus?
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Hey guys, could really need some help here. I need new headphones for working out and general daily life.

>Budget
Preferably $70-$140. Maybe a little more if needed.
>Location
Denmark
>Preferred type of headphone
Wireless, in-ear
>Comfort level
Medium to high.
>Preferred music
Rock and heavy metal. From Queen and Springsteen to Disturbed, Metallica and Sabaton.
>Past headphones
PowerBeats by Dre. I liked them well enough. Pricey, but could afford it back then.

I'm new to this and hope you can recommend something. If I left any necessary info out, just ask.
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>>52069415
Shit, forgot to add that I need to be able to control music and take calls. Pretty important.
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>>52069415
some bluebuds might serve you well
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>>52068481
fyi

You have to EQ / calibrate any studio monitor / headphone if you want it to be neutral. Preferbly you should make your own measurements, especially for speakers due to room acoustics.
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>>52069542
>LS50 retard spouts this nonsense
>doesn't know the first thing about EQing or buying decent audio products
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>Budget
$200-250
>Location
Canada
>Source
Desktop
>Preferred type of headphone
Over-Ear, wired
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
As long as they're not uncomfortable
>Preferred tonal balance
No preference
>Preferred music
yes
>Past headphones
poorfag shit
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>>52069620
ath-msr7
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>>52068678
>why do you do this?
Do what? I've read good reviews and consider ordering them, just asking for another couple opinions.
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>>52069415
don't buy wireless anything
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>>52069689
why not?
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>>52069676
fill out the form

>>52069713
because its fucking shit
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>>52069713
built in amp and dac, always a bad idea
wireless also limits you to mono when you're on a call
not worth money
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>Budget
no more than $80
>Location
US
>Source
Desktop
>Preferred type of headphone
full-sized
>Open or closed
open
>Comfort level
comfort id importand thet will be worn for long periods of time
>Preferred tonal balance
neutral

>Perferred music
punk rock

>Past headphones
Currently using turtle beach earforce x12. I find them to be uncomfortable they are espically when wearing them for long periods of time.
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Opinion on BD DT770?
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>>52069773
it looks like a good companion for junk in the dumps
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>>52069773
good upgrade from any Sennheiser headphone
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>Find headphones
>Great sale
>Decide to wait and think
>Go to buy
>Sold out
I quit.
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>>52069846
Same
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>>52069846

What headphones?
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>>52069722
>>52069727
I don't have anything against corded headphones for working out. The problem is, right now I have an iPhone, but my next phone will probably be an Android or something. Controls on wireless headphones can be used for both OS, while controls on corded headphones are often limited to either/or.
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>>52069919
$10 JBLs with swappable cord. Down from $100.

Should've just swooped on it.
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> there are people on this thread right now who believe that 1000$ headphones are better than 300$ ones
> these same people would kill their own mothers for a grain of unaudible improvement of their hi-fi setup
> these same people believe that "transparent" lossy files aren't audibly worse than lossless files
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>>52069984

If you're using them for working out, then sound quality shouldn't even matter that much, so ignore them. It's more about convenience. Something the like the Jaybird X would be good. It goes behind you ear, so it's perfect for working out and the battery life lasts around 8 hours. It's like $99 on Amazon if you're in the U.S. There's the X2's for $130, but I heard the differences aren't much.
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>>52070035
>trying to sneak in shitty placebophile opinions amongst "objectivist" opinions
cheeky
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>>52070035
>there are people on this thread right now who believe that 1000$ headphones are better than 300$ ones
they are better. whether or not its worth it depends on your income

>these same people would kill their own mothers for a grain of unaudible improvement of their hi-fi setup
yeah sure we would, lol, fuckin idiot

>these same people believe that "transparent" lossy files aren't audibly worse than lossless files
they are "worse," but to a much much less degree of getting a better headphone, depending on encode settings
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>>52070070
>they are "worse,"
measurably? sure. audibly? are you a bat or a human
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>>52070085
thats why i put it in quotes, because while its worse, it doesnt matter
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>>52070099
yes but when you say "worse" you're automatically advocating the "better" sound of lossless to retards who can't read and will go spread their own misinformation everywhere.
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>>52070115
i dont care about retards man
if i cared about them i would have become some kind of special needs teacher
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>>52070115
>>52070099
>>52070056
> muh super detailed, hyper-accurate 1500$ headphone
> muh hi-fi 128 kbps Opus library
> "who would believe listen to FLAC files? lel they're pure placebo, idiot"
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>>52070128
gotta do your part family

>>52070149
>logical fallacies everywhere
lol
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>>52070162
Do you mean the logical fallacies of people spending tons of money on super expensive hi-fi setup who say that lossy files aren't audibly worse than lossless files? I also find it funny, lol
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>>52070199
no i mean your strawman, personal incredulity and composition fallacies
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>>52070047
Thanks mate, I'll have a look at them. I love music, but I don't consider myself an audiophile. My time in the army probably didn't do wonders to my hearing anyways, so what you're describing doesn't sound too bad.
I appreciate your help.
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>>52070234
> implying that expensive hi-fi setup with lossy files isn't a biggest fallacy
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>>52070265
that's exactly what i'm implying

i'm also implying you're retarded and poor
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Would HD600 have better separation than AD700?
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>>52070276
> trying to justify his unused 6 TB storage unity with the "lossy = lossless" argument
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>>52070298
no i think you can stretch the headband on the ad700 more
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>>52070304
>making more things up
??
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i got sennheiser momentum earbuds for christmas. if i open them, i can;t return them. are the good? reviews say they are but i i don;t know if they are shill reviews or not.
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>>52070370
>if i open them, i can;t return them
why?
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>>52070370
everything is shill
everything is a meme
everything is shit
welcome to /hpg/
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>>52070370
well they're not dr dre shit, so they're not bad enough to return
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>>52070378
best buy doesn't allow it for sanitation reasons.

>>52070380
ok thanks.

>>52070408
+
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUH891p0oHc

Old anime music is good, oh so good, back when the weeaboo/otaku culture wasn't infecting young people's virgin minds yet.
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>>52070515
Back when westerns didn't use derogatory terms to identify with
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>>52070515
>leborninthewronggeneration
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>>52070515
https://youtu.be/jJnRylD9IXw

Mellow, delicate and poetic, like few things nowadays

>>52070568
Nostalgic moments
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>>52067704
>ever owning beyers
shit tier confirmed
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>>52069722
>fill out the form

I did, 3-4 threads ago. Got a recommendation for the ATH m50x, but the shop where I got a gift certificate for doesn't sell Audio Technica so sadly they are out of my reach for the time being. So I went through what they offer within my budget and which ones meet my 'demands' (for example, I really want detachable cords), read some reviews, and the AKG K 451 came up. What's the problem with asking for general opinions on a specific model? But alright, here's the form again:

>Budget
max 120€
>Location
Germany
>Source
Desktop and phone, so I want detachable cords to be able to switch between ca. 1m and 2-3m.
>Preferred type of headphone
closed, on ear or over ear
>Comfort level
will wear them all day long, and I wear glasses too
>Preferred tonal balance
dunno?
>Perferred music
psytrance and classical music. need good bass but without sacrificing treble and seperation or whatever you call it
>Past headphones
Shitty Sony MDR dunno (20€ model, they are really bad)
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Why are all Sennheiser headphones quiet as shit? I have a pair of inear CX160s and an overhead pair of HD201s and they sound pretty alright, but they're so quiet compared to everything else, it's really off putting
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I got a turn table for Christmas. Anyone know of a decent amp/receiver for a set of bookshelf speakers?
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>>52070677
knowing that you are limited to some store is kind of important. does it have a site where we can see the inventory?
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>>52070702
Yes, they are shit.
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>>52070934
Thank you for that detailed explanation as to why they are shit. This post will be passed on for generations are excellent buyer's advice
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First for bringing /hpg/ the joy of confirming Fidelio X2 are better than Sennheisers or Beyersremorse

Some buzzwords shills will try to use to bring the X2s down to their class:
Congested( one of the most open and widest sounding in the price range/innerfidelity)
No sub bass, sub bass roll off (listen to the god damn headphones, graphs are exactly the same for bass on dt880 and x2 but dt880 has no bass)
Glued earpads(manufacturing defect for some) (yeah well they still come off, and why would you change pads made of memory foam and velour, its not like you can upgrade to a better pair!)

Merry X2mas!
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>>52071045
Can you hook me up with a job shilling for Philips?
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>>52071066
Why, are you not enjoying your work at Sennheiser?
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>>52071097
What is wrong with Sennheiser?
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>>52071097
I don't have a shilling job at all, X2shill, that's why I'm asking. Plus I'd probably get more work with Philips than Sennheiser since the former need more shilling to push their shitty product while the latter already have a big name in the scene.
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>>52070833
Yes, here it is (filtered for 'hifi headphones' in the price range 25-120€, sorted by descending price. other filters for features don't work too reliably so better don't use the checkboxes on the leftmost column for anything other than adjusting the budget):

http://www.mediamarkt.de/mcs/productlist/_HiFi-Kopfh%C3%B6rer,48353,460776.html?langId=-3&searchParams=%2FSearch.ff%3FfilterTabbedCategory%3Donlineshop%26filterCategoriesROOT%3DTV%2B%2526%2BAudio%25C2%25A7MediaDEdec460665%26filterCategoriesROOT%252FTV%2B%2526%2BAudio%25C2%25A7MediaDEdec460665%3DKopfh%25C3%25B6rer%25C2%25A7MediaDEdec460773%26filterCategoriesROOT%252FTV%2B%2526%2BAudio%25C2%25A7MediaDEdec460665%252FKopfh%25C3%25B6rer%25C2%25A7MediaDEdec460773%3DHiFi-Kopfh%25C3%25B6rer%25C2%25A7MediaDEdec460776%26filterdesktop_currentprice%3D25%2B-%2B120%26channel%3Dmmdede%26productsPerPage%3D24%26followSearch%3D9998%26disableTabbedCategory%3Dtrue%26navigation%3Dtrue&sort=desc_price&view=&page=
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The X2 is a brilliant product that is literally the middle ground between Sennheiser and Beyerdynamic

>has the mud of the Sennheiser
>has the shrill highs of the Beyerdynamic
>has the bass rolloff of the Sennheiser
>has the upper midrange suckout of the Beyerdynamic

Truly an all-rounder.
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>>52071111
You mean mudheiser, snapheiser, shillheiser, veilheiser? Those are not maymays btw
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>>52071159
I don't get paid, I consider this charity work for a good cause since Sennheiser needs to be taken down a peg since their sound is shit but marketing good.
>>52071118
X2 brings the salt to the yard

But also, if you can even read graphs you can see it doesn't have the piercing highs, nor muddy mids or boomy bass. Not lacking any sub bass. They are just mad that their god confirmed X2 is better than HD600
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>>52071202
>I don't get paid
He does it for free
>if you can even read graphs
The irony here is everything mentioned in the post you replied to accurately depicts what is seen in measurements of the X2 and you're the one incapable of reading the graphs.

If you're gonna shill the X2 right at least sprinkle a little truth in there so somebody takes you seriously.
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>>52071160
>mudheiser
What, the quailty is muddy? Mines sound fine

>snapheiser
tbqh yeah the rail head fitter thing is shit

>shillheiser
anytime anyone thinks anything is positive is a shill

>veilheiser
they're german, not arabs
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>>52071252
>What, the quailty is muddy? Mines sound fine

>they're german, not arabs
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>>52071235
Enjoying my matched drivers and bass, and non piercing highs. Oh btw thats 600ohm dt880 has way less treble than the other versions. You can look it up if you want to.
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What is /g/'s opinion on the Audio Technica ATH-A2000X? I got this pair for Christmas (not my image). But honestly, it's a little difficult to tell the difference between M50s and these on a lot of songs. Sure, they're a tad clearer, but they sound about the same. I hope "burn-in" might make them sound better, but I expected flagship phones to blow M50s out of the water.
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>>52071359
>le 2deep philosophy meme

how about you actually respond to my points rather than posting image macros
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>>52071252
what are you smoking?
Also
>veilheiser
>they're german, not arabs
But I thought german women wore weils by now lol
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>>52071401
Why don't you post the 32ohm measurement m8 :^)
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>>52071404
Sorry, pal, you missed the point of diminishing returns about $400 ago.
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What are cheap earbuds that won't break when I sleep with them.
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>>52071456
>sleeping with your earbuds
L-lewd
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>>52071456
Enjoy your ear infections.
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>>52071439
they were on sale for 350 tho
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>>52071422
Why bother? Since the 600ohm is superior in every way and I tried to keep it fair :^)
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>>52071526
Though you wouldn't. Like I said X2 shill, you gotta at least put some effort into the shilling.
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>>52071401
damn that x2 looks like shit desu
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>>52071549
it's a "fun" headphone because the FR looks like it would make a fun rollercoaster ride. dt880 is too smooth and would be boring af
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I currently use M50's. Had AD700's before that. Looking for a closed ear headset in the same price. The M50's are fine, but get uncomfortable after prolonged use. May just replace the pads with the HM5 pads, but I'm looking at these 2 headsets. What do you guys think?

Brainwavz HM5

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B006MA9XXM/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_S_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=1BIPC37OGF1MR&coliid=I2DD2NL0XD59FD&psc=1

NVX Audio XPT100
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0093PVTPS/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pd_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=1BIPC37OGF1MR&coliid=I3DQC1ADQLPVYY
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>>52071568
>it's a "fun" headphone
So like grados?
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>>52067886 (Me)
Anyone?
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>>52071583
>mud
>no subbass
>peaky highs
exactly like grados, try to keep up senpai
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>>52070047
I don't know what they pay you but you should find a different job if you have a conscience. There's never a reason to go Bluetooth.
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>>52071539
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>>52067886
>>52071584
>So 85dB is the loudest I should have my headphones.
who keeps spreading this bullshit?
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>>52071570
They're the exact same thing except the XPT100 comes with (also separately available) huge angled replacement pads.
They're quite good, but if you enjoy the M50's amount of bass you'll be disappointed by them as they are quite neutral.
For a bit more "fun" try the Takstar Pro 80, they're a bit more v-shaped and also fit HM5/NVX pads.
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>>52071620
Post the innerfidelity one, come on. Stop cherrypicking.
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>>52071629
Quite a few sources.
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>>52071731
share them with us
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>>52071759
I'm on mobile, so it's quite fiddly to paste URLs. Basically I googled "maximum safe volume" and all the results seemed to say basically the same thing: 85dB is as high as you should go for continuous listening. Are you saying they're all wrong?
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>>52071870
i'm saying that hearing damage is a function of SPL and listening duration, not just SPL.
85 dB is safe for 8 hours, 90 for 2h30m, 95 for 47m.
saying that you should never go over 85 is an oversimplification.
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>>52066785
So I got the Superlux HD681 model for Christmas, how does rate on this board? I like em and I not too big of an audio nut so I think it'll be fine but I worried the frame might break cause its seems like its held together by two rather flimsy looking poles.

Rate me /g
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>>52072003
poorfag/10
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>>52070035
>there are people on this thread right now who believe that 1000$ headphones are better than 300$ ones
300 dollar/euro price point where you get the most accurate headphones on the market and where diminishing returns truly kick in. heck it might even be a point after which you get less performance for more money. there are things which some "1000$ headphones" do better but price is a terrible indication of quality in audio.

regards, anon who has 1k headphones.
>these same people would kill their own mothers for a grain of unaudible improvement of their hi-fi setup
im not a retard. headphones and their frequency response is the one truly hard part to get right and the one that matters the most. devices "upstream" have little to no quality improvements past a certain point, especially not audible ones.
>these same people believe that "transparent" lossy files aren't audibly worse than lossless files
there's nothing to believe in that and you yourself mentioned the word transparent. i use lossless for a few reasons and spotify but i obviously can't tell a different between a transparent lossy encode and a lossless file.

>>52070149
i know you are just trying to bait but you do understand how little correlation there is with digital file compression and headphone performance, especially performance weighted by price?

>>52070199
>>52070265
1/10 for these

>>52070702
>Why are all Sennheiser headphones quiet as shit?
what

>>52071404
shit like all high end audio-technicas.

>>52067886
it's always a function of time and spl. hearing can be damaged permanently by a single loud sound or equally badly with 85dBA spl over a long period of time. i often listen to music for levels considerably higher than 85dBA but my hearing is perfectly fine because i don't do that non-stop for hours.
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>>52072023
Am I missing out on much with A2000Xs compared to something popular like the HD650 or HD700? I decided on it because I liked the classic Audio-Technica sound that my M50s delivered, and I'm not that disappointed.
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>>52072217
>the classic Audio-Technica sound
loving this house sound meme
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>>52072217
well the Sennheisers are HD, so you're getting more quality.
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>>52072217
The Sennheisers have an HD, so you're bound to have better sound quality.
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>>52072021
Well the Superlux HD681 isn't bad for the money, hell I'd use them.
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>>52072217
HD = high definition
You don't want low definition, do you?
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Are the cat ear headphones any good?
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>>52072561
yes buy them asap
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>>52072565
will it make me qt?
Its these btw
http://amzn.com/B015OR9R8O
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Debating between the M40X and the Takstar Pro 80.
From review reading, it seems the 40X has a slightly less impactful bass and higher comfort, as well as an extra cable if need be.
Price wise they differ by $20, so it's not a tipping factor.
Personal music taste is EDM and classical, so I'm leaning towards the 40X. Any thoughts on either is appreciated :D
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>>52072622
>M40x
>better comfort
Slap HM5 pads on the Pro 80 ($20 on Amazon) and they'll blow the M40x out of the water when it comes to comfort.
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So I recently bought the cd900st and it hurts like a bitch after a few hours will changing the pads to something thicker fuck with the sound?
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>>52072636
well you could also slap different pads on the m40x
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>>52072217
Missing out on HD 600. HD 700 is shit that should be avoided. There is no correlation between manufacturer and a sound signature. Only some parts of the lineups can sounds somewhat similar like HD 518 to HD 650 but every single manufacturer has huge difference between their models.
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Some earbud suggestions would be appreciated, bruh.

>Budget
£50-£100
>Location
UK
>Source
Various 3.5mm jacks i.e. from my computers or my phone (which is what I listen to my music on 75% of the time)
>Preferred Tonal Balance
Neutral but with a nice bass response
>Preferred music
I like to keep my taste eclectic but I mainly listen to hip-hop and electronic with a touch of indie rock/post-rock/shoegaze/metal when I'm in the mood
>Past headphones
I've tried a bunch of sub-£50 earbuds before - Sennheisers, SoundMagic, JVC, RHA, and a few others - but now I'd like to give something a bit more pricey a try, so suggestions for earbuds in the slightly more expensive price bracket I listed would be appreciated.
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>>52072738
>HD700 is shit that should be avoided
You what
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>>52072622
Somebody linked these last thread which basically appear to be detachable cable modded Pro80s with HM5clonepads

http://www.amazon.com/Basstyle-TH-5001-Professional-Headphones-Broadcasting/dp/B00NTVWZY6/

>>52072758
They are pretty awful.
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>>52072758
fucking kek lad. is that a woo-audio stack for your darker than my soul stax?
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>>52072734
You could, but I'm assuming the Pro 80 is the cheapest of the two and the pads would make them the same price.
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Yeah I think imma grab the HD800S desu
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>>52072771
Looks like they use different drivers in the same housing (50mm instead of 53mm). Pretty cool though.
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>>52072819
Yeah, if the measurement they have isn't a complete load of shit it it sort of similar to what I heard on the Pro80/remember seeing on its measurements. Maybe a little less bass.
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>>52072749
DT770's are £99 on amazon, my brother has them and they are great all round, they look cool and are comfy as fuck.

For IEM's I would suggest the pistons 3's, you can get them fairly cheap now and they are the best IEM's Iv'e ever heard, the build quality and even the packaging are god tier.
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>>52072798
your waifu looks like a boi
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>>52072842
Just to add, I bought a pair of yamahas's from the /g/g list for £75 and they were slightly worse than the p3's and the build quality was fucking terrible.

Buy the p3's, trust me.
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I have about $15p budget for a headphone.

Anyone know what makes a high quality headphone better than cheap earbuds? What is a 'neutral' sound?
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>>52072790
well, I've heard a lot of good about the takstar 2050s and Pro 80s but I'd still guess the M40x's are better

so you're paying more, for more
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>>52066785

Why do animu grills always wear AKG K701?
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>>52072903
A friend of mine has the M40x's, I have a headset variant of the Hi2050 with velour HM5 pads. We'll compare them sometime soon, I'll post results here.
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>>52072790
That's correct, and the pads (Velour or Fat Angled) would add another $30 to the price difference. If the sound quality is better though, I would overlook the comfort and buy pads only if I found a large enough comfort issue.

>>52072771
Thanks for the link. Few reviews out there, but the comfort and cable are appealing. Main concern is on the sound quality, as well as the much more shoddy quality. Plastic support T seems extremely fragile.
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>>52072961
From what my friend's told me the M40x's clamping force is pretty high at first so you may want to stretch the headband out. Also the pads are kinda stiff and flat, especially compared to HM5 pads.
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>>52072859
Wouldn't be opposed tbqh.

>>52072961
>Plastic support T seems extremely fragile.
The yoke looks standard metal to me like the Pro80 have.
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>>52072896
$15?

Look up the takstar pro 80's on ali express or the takstar 2050 from amazon etc, it's not possible to find better headphones for under £100 never mind dollars, you will need to spend a little more than $15 though, save a tiny bit it's worth it.
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>>52072961
>Plastic support T
Hi2050 owner here, it's metal on these.
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>>52072896
neutral sound is where it's leaning to nothing being overpowering/underpowered, it's where it should be

now you might argue this is objectively what to strive for, but people find that the different sound profiles are nicer to listen to casually. For example some people like more bass than neutral, some like more treble.

cheap headphones usually aren't even close in any way to a good frequency

At that pricepoint, I don't think you'll find anything better than maybe pistons 3.0 if you're lucky and you find them cheap but not fake somewhere or RP-HJE120K/125
>>52072935
isn't the pro 80 a better pair of headphones than the 2050?
I thought I checked and the pro was a fair bit more expensive

>>52072927
it's just mio, different animu grills wear different headphones
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>>52073008
Sorry. I meant $150+

I want to dive into a quality headphone. I just do not understand if sound quality of TV shows, movies, music and games get any better with it.
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>>52073023
Pro 80s are almost identical to the Hi2050, they're closed back and have slightly different amounts of dampening material inside the cups. They use the exact same drivers and construction though.
The price difference is probably because the Pro 80s come in a really nice storage box, whereas the Hi2050 come packaged like any other headphones.
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>>52072927

>>52073061
why not recommend the Hi2050 instead of the pro80 then
like who the fuck uses storage boxes or whatever
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>>52073023
Not him but I have a pair of pro 80's on the way from aliexpress (£35) after giving my newish 2050's to my dad for Christmas, as far as I know they are just the closed revision of the 2050's with a different look.

I also bought the brainwavs velour pads from amazon and they DO NOT fit the 2050's unless you cut the material down which I obviously didn't do because I'm waiting to put them on my pro 80's, I have a feeling I will need to cut the 'lip size down to make them fit.
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>>52073087
Because not everyone wants an open-back pair of headphones, and the Pro 80 is still awesome value.
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>>52073100
Using HM5 velours on my Hi2050 right now, just stretched them over the actual cup instead of the ring that the stock pads hold on to. Works just fine and is super comfy.
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>>52073042
Judging by your question I would suggest the takstar 2050 from amazon, they are incredible for the price and have good build quality+comfort etc
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>>52072993
Thanks for the heads up. Will take some more time to consider what do to with cups.

>>52072935
A comparison would be great, thanks in advance! I'm assuming your headset is open while the M40X is closed, but would audio changes only be towards the soundstage? Regardless, would be useful to have that info.

>>52073005
>>52073020
I see, my bad. Metal supports are all good then!
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>>52072842
>>52072885
...The XIAOMI Earphone Piston 3? The ones that cost £11 on Amazon?

A-are we talking about the same headphones here? Forgive my basic bitch level knowledge on IEMs. Can we clarify which IEMs you mean, when I searched Pistons 3, these cheap Chinese ones were the only ones that came up.
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>>52073137
>I'm assuming your headset is open while the M40X is closed, but would audio changes only be towards the soundstage?
closed headphones are known to have stronger bass, but the m40 having weaker bass it might even out
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>>52073154
don't buy them off amazon, most the sellers there sell fakes

bigbargainonline on ebay sells real ones, I think aliexpress sells real ones too

don't buy the youth edition, it has a shit flat plastic cable instead of braided
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>>52073137
From what I've read the Pro 80 has a bit more bass than the Hi2050, and its treble is a bit less sharp. Both these things were fixed by adding HM5 velours in my experience, though.
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>>52073122
Mine don't seem to get anywhere near the edges and the material isn't exactly stretchy and looks like it would snap if I forced it where as the original 2050 are easy as fuck to put on, I'm guessing the pro 80's will be roughly the same size but at this point I dont understand how people are putting them on the 2050's.
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>>52073187
The material is actually pretty stretchy, but it takes some effort to get them on there for sure. I'll try posting a pic, but my phone's camera is kinda shit.
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>>52073042
Depends if you want open or closed. Try this headset out.

(Closed)
Bassstyle TH5001 (Takstar pro80 clone I believe, not too sure though so you may want to stay away)
AKG K553
NVX XPT100

(open)
akg k612
sennheiser hd598
used/like new (fidelio x2)
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>>52073215
I kind of need closed ones because I need to drown out shouting.
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>>52073215
why no m40x, are they really that overrated?
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>>52073185
Okay, £15 is a lot less than I was planning to pay, but if they're as good as you say I'll give them a shot! Thanks for the suggestion!
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>>52073154
I'm the guy who suggested them and yes they are the ones lol, It seems crazy I know but welcome to the world of high quality low price Chinese goods.

Xaomi are selling them via amazon for 11.95, they are real, don't listen to the other guy that listing is real mate.
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>>52073215
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>>52073214
>>52073187
Here.
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>>52073214
Pls do, would really appreciate it mate.
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>>52073232
>I kind of need closed ones because I need to drown out shouting.
Well shit. That got dark.
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>>52073304
It is not *that* bad. I just deal with mental illness
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>>52073290
Thanks for that, did it seem near impossible to get it in the original groove then?, should I just try to go over it with my pro 80's when they arrive?
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>>52073272
well they're not like "wow best earphones top of the line best ever made"
they're one of the best if not the best IEMs under 50$, maybe even up to 75-100$

>>52073281
oh amazon actually sells them now, that probably means they're real
.co.uk's amazon just has some other people sell through them and I believe it was the same on .com for the piston 2.0s with a lot of people saying they were fakes

he's talking in pounds so he's probably still going to use the .co.uk, which are shipped and sold by something called "Mulitou-EU"

I really wouldn't take the risk
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>>52072798
Yeah i think I'm gonna mod my HD 800 desu.
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>>52073342
Yeah, the original groove wasn't deep enough. I used my finger to kinda work the lip around the cup, pic related, the same thing should work with the Pro 80.
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>>52073370
nice cars m8
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Is there a general rule with cleaning headphones? I have sweaty ear so my cheapo one got infested with ear smell. Any pad material that is sweat resistant? What is that soft material again? I know pleather is no good for me.
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>>52073387
thanks m8, they're mostly there for nostalgia's sake
I miss the days when me and a friend used to race those little things
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>>52073351
Why would you not take the risk?, the reviews are good and if you buy them from a hywhere else you risk some chink selling fake ones anyway, I bought mine from amazona nd they were real with quick delivery, better than buying from aliexpress and getting fakes after 30 fucking days like I did with p2's (Fucking hell they were bad lol)
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>>52073368
Let me know how that goes because it seems nobody has been able to match what Sennheiser have done so far.

In any case I may consider throwing some rug liner in there myself to see how that goes with Sennheiser's solution. Hopefully some people start modding the S as well.
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