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Other business laptops are also welcome in /tpg/ (e.g. Dell Latitude/Precision, HP EliteBook/ZBook).
If you're looking for purchase advice, READ THE BUYERS GUIDE FIRST. Then post, stating budget and requirements (e.g. size and performance).
Don't buy anything OTHER THAN T, X AND W/P SERIES if you want the Real ThinkPad Experience™
Recommended models:
T420 - 14", normal size
X220 - 12.5", lightweight
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No news.
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Why ThinkPad? (also applies to other business laptops)
>They’re really cheap when you buy a used one.
>Keyboards feel excellent while typing (yes, even the newer ones).
>Great durability thanks to the inclusion of rollcages and use of glass fiber reinforced plastic for the chassis. The keyboard is splash proof and spilled liquids will drain out.
>Utilitarian design - e.g. indicator LEDs, 7 row keyboard layout on older models.
>Docking solutions that easily turns your laptop into a desktop.
>Easy to repair, upgrade and maintain thanks to readily available service manuals for almost every model. Spare parts are easy and cheap to obtain.
>The best trackpoint (that red thing on the middle of the keyboard). Great for those who type a lot or hate swiping their fingers all over a touchpad.
>Excellent GNU/Linux & *BSD support.
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Used ThinkPad Buyers Guide:
http://ktgee.net/tpg
EPP discount for new ThinkPads (USA & Canada only, usually 15%+ off):
http://pastebin.com/wumE7L2f
ThinkWiki - Info on ThinkPads and running GNU/Linux on them:
http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ThinkWiki
ThinkPad service guides w/ tutorial videos:
https://www.lenovoservicetraining.com/
>What Thinkpad do you have and why that model?
>Which OS(s) do you use and why?
>What do you use it for?
>Do you use a HDD or a SSD and why? What capacity and why?
>Do you use your M-SATA slot? If so, what capacity and why?
>How much RAM do you have?
Post pics.
From earlier thread...
>>52057684
That sounds pretty nice. So it charges on the dock? And when you want to take the laptop, you don't disconnect any monitor cables or power cables, just lift it off the dock? What do you use the dock for?
>>52057844
i'll ask again, /g/uys i'm considering buying an x220, the seller listed it on ebay writing LED screen, what does that mean? is it IPS or TN screen?
>>52057968
Both are LED, LED is the backlight technology not the type of panel.
You can judge an IPS by its viewing angles.
>>52058045
yeah i knew that, i hoped for the backlight technology to be different on different LCD types. is the TN screen that bad? how's it
>>52058074
It's pretty good, the horizontal viewing angles are great but the vertical ones not so.
Color reproduction is decent.
>>52058118
thanks
i'll probably have enough money to buy it on the first days of january
Should I get a t430 for €320???
>>52057858
>What Thinkpad do you have and why that model?
T420 with the 2.5GHz i5
>Which OS(s) do you use and why?
OpenBSD, it runs flawlessly on the T420
>What do you use it for?
School and programming
>Do you use a HDD or a SSD and why? What capacity and why?
120GB SSD and 300GB hard drive in the ultra bay.
>Do you use your M-SATA slot? If so, what capacity and why?
No
>How much RAM do you have?
4GB, haven't had any reason to upgrade it yet. Even under heavy loads OpenBSD only uses like 1.5GB of it.
>>52057858
>What Thinkpad do you have and why that model?
X200, 2.4GHz Penryn C2D, T400 2.26GHz Penryn C2D
>Which OS(s) do you use and why?
Debian jessie, Windows 8, respectively.
>What do you use it for?
Programming, music listening and production, respectively.
>Do you use a HDD or a SSD and why? What capacity and why?
X200: SSD, 128GB, because I take it outside and weighs literally nothing
T400: HDD, 1TB, because it's my home computer for all intents and purposes and it never leaves my desk
>Do you use your M-SATA slot? If so, what capacity and why?
no
>How much RAM do you have?
X200: 2gb, T400, 8gb
>>52057858
>What Thinkpad do you have and why that model?
15.1" T61p for watching stuff, X220 as desktop replacement until I can afford my new build, T60 as backup, X200 for travel, X201t for drawing, T23 and T30 for collection/installing gentoo
>Which OS(s) do you use and why?
Wangblows 7 on my i-series thinkpads cuz just werks and to use some programs, mint on T61p, CentOS on T60, dual booted xubuntu and win7 on my X200, gentoo on my T23
>What do you use it for?
see first point
>Do you use a HDD or a SSD and why? What capacity and why?
256gb MX100 in my T61p, assorted HDDs in everything else because poor
>>Do you use your M-SATA slot? If so, what capacity and why?
not yet
>>How much RAM do you have?
[spoiler]I've never had more than 4gb of ram[/spoiler]
Anyone here have a x200 tablet? What kind of battery life should I expect out of it? Mine usually only gets 2 to 3 hours before it dies.
Does anyone else experience excessive fan speeds when using their thinkpad under Debian?
My fans run at 3800RPM at all times.
>>52058943
Run cpufreq-info in a console and post its output.
>>52058943
Have you installed tlp? You can set power consumption profiles.
>>52058988
i actually had to install cpufrequtils, what is it anyway?cpufrequtils 008: cpufreq-info (C) Dominik Brodowski 2004-2009
Report errors and bugs to [email protected], please.
analyzing CPU 0:
driver: acpi-cpufreq
CPUs which run at the same hardware frequency: 0
CPUs which need to have their frequency coordinated by software: 0
maximum transition latency: 10.0 us.
hardware limits: 800 MHz - 2.40 GHz
available frequency steps: 2.40 GHz, 2.40 GHz, 1.60 GHz, 800 MHz
available cpufreq governors: powersave, userspace, conservative, ondemand, performance
current policy: frequency should be within 800 MHz and 2.40 GHz.
The governor "ondemand" may decide which speed to use
within this range.
current CPU frequency is 800 MHz.
cpufreq stats: 2.40 GHz:4.97%, 2.40 GHz:1.33%, 1.60 GHz:5.21%, 800 MHz:88.49% (53)
analyzing CPU 1:
driver: acpi-cpufreq
CPUs which run at the same hardware frequency: 1
CPUs which need to have their frequency coordinated by software: 1
maximum transition latency: 10.0 us.
hardware limits: 800 MHz - 2.40 GHz
available frequency steps: 2.40 GHz, 2.40 GHz, 1.60 GHz, 800 MHz
available cpufreq governors: powersave, userspace, conservative, ondemand, performance
current policy: frequency should be within 800 MHz and 2.40 GHz.
The governor "ondemand" may decide which speed to use
within this range.
current CPU frequency is 800 MHz.
cpufreq stats: 2.40 GHz:7.47%, 2.40 GHz:2.49%, 1.60 GHz:1.62%, 800 MHz:88.43% (56)
Are there any old mempads with normal screen?
>>52059103
What do you mean by "normal screen"?
T420. I like it. But I want an x series, and a newer model.
Arch. i3. Cuz tiling.
Java. 4chan.
250 ssd. 1tb hdd.
16gb ram.
>>52057858
>>What Thinkpad do you have and why that model?
X201, because I could get it off wikipedia for $100.
Shipping a thinkpad from the US to the Netherlands was $70, so I needed to get a good deal.
>>Which OS(s) do you use and why?
Arch Linux, it's my favourite distro (I run it on all my devices)
>>What do you use it for?
Being able to use a computer from bed or my couch, mostly. I like taking it with me when I'm going out every now and then as well.
>>Do you use a HDD or a SSD and why? What capacity and why?
The built in 128GB of storage was enough for me. I have all my anime and music on my NAS anyways, so storage space isn't really an issue.
>>Do you use your M-SATA slot? If so, what capacity and why?
Nob
>>How much RAM do you have?
4GB
No pic right now
any T series with a very good gpu ? " better then the 730m"
>>52058497
>and it never leaves my desk
then why don't you just get a desktop?
>>52059566
don't have any real need for one
>>52059597
but why get a laptop to do what a desktop could do, but better.
>>52059626
what can a desktop do better?
>>52059634
better performance, better upgradability, better at everything besides moving and having a built in UPS
>>52059702
>>52059634
oh and you can usually get them for free from companies
>>52059702
but i don't need those things
>>52059718
i'm not going to go dumpster diving, my time is more valuable than that
>>52059725
you don't have to dumpster dive to get a free computer ya ding dong
>>52059742
Where are they handing free computers then?
Do all x series tablets use the same stylus? Can I buy a x201 tablet and buy the stylus separately and expect it to just werk?
Is an x201 tablet plus the stylus and dock for $120 a good price?
>>52059886
sounds like a good price to me, yeah
>>52059896
Thanks
>>52057858
>What Thinkpad do you have and why that model?
X61T now almost completely broken, got a T41 for Christmas
>Which OS(s) do you use and why?
Used windows 7 and Debian on the X61, Debian exclusively on the T41 as it's speedy, Windows makes it seem like a rotting corpse.
>What do you use it for?
General computing stuff, just my connection to the digital world.
>Do you use a HDD or a SSD and why? What capacity and why?
Got a 120GB Samsung SSD in a sale a couple of years ago. I use it for speed though a bit more capacity would be nice.
>Do you use your M-SATA slot? If so, what capacity and why?
>How much RAM do you have?
X61T - 4 GB. T41 - 2GB
>What Thinkpad do you have and why that model?
X250.
>Which OS(s) do you use and why?
It was a present with Windows 10 on it
>What do you use it for?
School, programming. I have a gaming tower already and a shit kicker for torrents/videos.
>Do you use a HDD or a SSD and why? What capacity and why?
HDD but I might install a small SSD on it just to fuck around
>Do you use your M-SATA slot? If so, what capacity and why?
No.
>How much RAM do you have?
It comes with 8 but I may upgrade it with some cheap RAM.
>>52059828
Yes. They all use the same nib. Unless you're a drawfag, you'll get tired of the touchscreen after a week and use it exclusively as a laptop though.
>>52060203
What if I want to use it so I can take notes on OneNote with the stylus? Will I hate it?
>>52060324
Keyboards are much better for taking notes.
>got memed into buying a t420
God fucking DAMN the screen is so awful
>>52060336
Not for drawing equations and diagrams.
>>52060336
Its faster, but studies have shown that hand writing notes helps you retain more of the subject. It would be good to edit slides or outlines that your professor gives you.
>>52060347
Spend 30 dollars on the 1600x900 screen.
FOR THOSE HAVING TEMPERATURE PROBLEMS UNDER WANGBLOWS!!!
I just figured that fan profiles under the power manager software activates turbo boost which adds quite 7C or more of heat. Using the balanced profile deactivates turboboost.
I guess this only applies to first gen core i processors.
>>52057844
>>52060545
>rounded corner
is that even a thinkpad? Do you even lift?
I saw an ad on craigslist and it says
>We are selling a used Lenovo ThinkPad X200 Mini Laptop. This laptop is in perfect working order and in good cosmetic condition. Comes only with charger.
Specifications:
*150Gb HDD
*2Gb RAM
*IntelCore Duo
Get it today for $89.95
Im going to call them up to specify what processor they have
should I go for it?
I plan on installing linux and doing light browsing and doing assignments for school.
>>52060593
Core 2 Duo Penryn probably between 2.2 and 2.5ghz
Also, I picked up an X200 for $60 shipped and it came with a charger and battery.
>>52060625
The x200 has a C2D processor between 1.86 and 2.4
anyone know what it means when it says the x220 "officially" supports 8gb ram but "unofficially" 16gb?
>>52060625
Shit dawg, how'd you nab that?
>>52060814
On dit que c'est malin
>>52060826
No hablo frog
>>52057858
I've got two answers. You're all going to hate me
>What Thinkpad do you have and why that model?
t61p and x200
>Which OS(s) do you use and why?
>What do you use it for?
installing and updating ubuntu gnome for a backup or when a family member needs a pc
>Do you use a HDD or a SSD and why? What capacity and why?
hdd in both because both are slow pieces of trash that wouldn't benefit from an ssd apart from battery life
>Do you use your M-SATA slot? If so, what capacity and why?
no
>How much RAM do you have?
2gb in x200, 4gb in t61p
>What Thinkpad do you have and why that model?
Frankenpad yoga 14 (haswell) with 2015 trackpad + fixed shutoff issue
>Which OS(s) do you use and why?
Windows 10 because optimus graphics don't work on linux. I know what you're going to say. Fuck you. they don't work. and no, this isn't a "gaming laptop."
>What do you use it for?
doing school work at school. using as a fully powered machine anywhere else. good IPS display for media consumption. good enough gpu to play games at a friends house or in down time at school.
>Do you use a HDD or a SSD and why? What capacity and why?
SSD because I'm not retarded
256gb because they were still absurdly expensive when I first got it
>Do you use your M-SATA slot? If so, what capacity and why?
yes, it came with a 16gb m2 ssd by default as a caching type partition for the OS. That's what it does now. When I was trying to keep linux working on this thing i would boot off of it. Not noticeably faster than the normal SSD
>How much RAM do you have?
8gb
and before you cucks start getting mad, the thinkpad yoga 14 comes with a carbon fiber finish and has a roll cage. perhaps it's not milspec but it's basically a t440 but better in every way imaginable
>>52060347
I keep fucking telling people this. It is one of the worst laptops ever made solely due to the display
>>52060396
low standard retard alert. the 900p screen looks like fucking shit too. a solid 2/10 display
>>52060863
So did Lenovo say thank you after you let them fuck you?
>>52060814
ebay
the listing claimed the display backlight was uneven but I noticed no such thing in the photos or in person
I love my t420, but the display is atrocious. How's the display on the t61?
>>52060895
No because I have 3 great computers and none of your autism can prove otherwise
I got the yoga 14 offhand after everyone realized it was broken trash. was dirt cheap compared to the $1k asking price this summer for it
>>52060902
much better, at least on my t61p
computer is about 1/4 the speed though if you can deal with that, will run much hotter, will be way heavier, and not to mention will have trash battery life
>>52060903
Is Chinese dick coated with MSG like their food is?
>>52060916
well memed
>>52060913
Fug. 1/4th speed? T420's aren't that expensive anyway, I'd rather just try my luck with the X1 Carbon mod.
>tfw uni
>tfw everyone around me has a current year macbook
>people look at me when i pull out my x201.
>my desktop looks like a 1990s linux desktop environment
They probably think I'm poor.
>>52060942
What display is your T420 using?
>>52060958
it doesn't matter because they're all sickening garbage
>>52060942
go for it if you have the confidence to pull it off. probably worth it
>>52060971
I'm just curious, I recently bought the T420 and am trying to figure out which of the 3 1600x900 screens to upgrade to.
>>52060953
What the fuck desktop environment is that?
>>52060991
Read the file name.
>>52060984
there is an answer out there but I never bothered to figure it out because it's just an upgrade from shit to trash
either figure out the x1 mod or buy a better computer
>>52060998
Why do you use it?
My X201 emits a bit of a high pitched whine sometimes, I think it's coming from the fan. It is definitely coming from the area near the fan, and I've also replaced the HDD with an SSD, eliminating the only other moving part on the laptop.
I see on eBay that there are a lot of sellers offering replacement fan and heatsink units as a whole. How can I know if the replacement heatsink is going to be as good as the stock cooler? I assume that no matter which one I end up purchasing, I should replace the included thermal paste that they have on the heatsink?
>>52061028
My SSD makes a high pitched whine when put under heavy random access loads.
Try runninggrep -r whateverin your home directory.
This may be more /diy/, but I need to pass 2 antenna leads through the chassis of a x220t, what would be the best way to do this?
>>52061028
It's probably cpu whine.
Does anyone have the x200 or x201 tablets? Do they have webcams?
>>52061406
wtf?
>>52061454
https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/ThinkPad-X-Series-Laptops/x201-high-pitch-whine/td-p/325455
>>52057858
>>What Thinkpad do you have and why that model?
x220 - muh portability & battery lyf
>>Which OS(s) do you use and why?
Xubuntu - Just Werks (tm)
>>What do you use it for?
Shitposting/Web, IRC, Music & Programming
>>Do you use a HDD or a SSD and why? What capacity and why?
HDD - 320GB
>>Do you use your M-SATA slot? If so, what capacity and why?
No
>>How much RAM do you have?
4GB
>>52057858
>What Thinkpad do you have and why that model?
T420
>Which OS
Debian Stretch
>What do you use it for?
Mostly programming, I watch movies sometimes, I also come here, obviously
>Do you use a HDD or a SSD? What capacity?
SSD 240GB
>Do you use your M-SATA slot? If so, what capacity and why?
no
>How much RAM do you have?
4GB
dont own a thinkpad, should i get one, fellow /g/enius'?
>>52061874
Yes.
>>52060863
What is the shut off issue with the Yoga 14? I just bought one from a pawnshop.
>>52061874
I'm gonna order one soon because the prices are pretty great and they are modular. I just need a mobile shitposting machine and coding station. Possibly a tablet for taking notes in class. Looking at x201 models on eBay.
>>52062124
I've got a X201t and it's pretty great
nice IPS screen with decent resolution
Ordered X201 off ebay.
Should be arriving today can't wait.
Hey guys looking for some advice recently got a tax rebate and am looking at getting my first Thinkpad. Mainly for Web browsing, odd spot of photoshop, playing a few old games and watching movies(mainly 720 stuff)
Budget is up to £300, screen size is not to important aslong as it's 14inch +
Currently looking at the T430's on eBay at around the £200 mark with 4gb ram and hdds with around 320gb which I can just upgrade myself later on if it's not good enough. Any advice? Am I looking along the right lines or should I focus on different models.
Thanks in advance
Just bought my first thinkpad
x230; everything werks
how did I do?
>>52063901
swap the keyboard for the X220's and you're good
>>52057858
>What Thinkpad do you have and why that model?
W500, got it for dirt cheap from a liquidation sale
>Which OS(s) do you use and why?
Arch Linux, its fast
>What do you use it for?
Everything
>Do you use a HDD or a SSD and why? What capacity and why?
128gb samsung evo ssd, muh fast
>Do you use your M-SATA slot? If so, what capacity and why?
Not currently
>How much RAM do you have?
8gb
hey g im thinking of buying a model t500 should I do it 125 plus shipping is the price.
>>52063901
Did you get the backlit keyboard?
>>52064046
okidoki.
I dont want this belgian kb anyways.
>>52064285
do it faget and post pics
>>52064360
so its worth it buy it
I'm that guy from yesterday asking for T420 advice
literally got 5 emails today saying almost all I asked about are 1366x768
why the fuck does nobody have the good panel? am I truly fucked?
>>52060953
What the fuck is this terrible, terrible bullshit
What's stopping you from installing an OS made in the 21st century?
>>52064374
any last words
>>52064455
is it worth it im trying too say is it the best for me and my budget
>>52057858
>>What Thinkpad do you have and why that model?
T520, because 15.6" is comfy with 1600x900. I also don't really need the specs of a W520.
>>Which OS(s) do you use and why?
Xubuntu 15.10, because it just werks(TM) and I like Xfce.
>>What do you use it for?
Programming, shitposting, a bit of entertainment when I'm bored on the train and the like.
>>Do you use a HDD or a SSD and why? What capacity and why?
500GB HDD, because it came with the machine and I don't feel a need to upgrade it to an SSD.
>>Do you use your M-SATA slot? If so, what capacity and why?
No.
>>How much RAM do you have?
6GB
I want to fall into the thinkpad meme
Is this a good one:
T420
I5 2520M 2.50GHZ
4GB ram
320 hdd
>>52064489
how much did that cost? looks good
>>52064455
the deal is done g
>>52064499
amazon t500 125 plus shipping and handling 2 left you want a link
>>52064567
About 260 EUR, the Danish market is pretty expensive compared to what people generally show off here.
Very good condition with a not very old genuine 9-cell, though. Had it for 2 months so far, the battery was at about 88% capacity when I got it.native-path: BAT0
vendor: SANYO
model: 42T4799
serial: 5684
power supply: yes
updated: 2015-12-26T13:34:04 CET (99 seconds ago)
has history: yes
has statistics: yes
battery
present: yes
rechargeable: yes
state: discharging
warning-level: none
energy: 72.86 Wh
energy-empty: 0 Wh
energy-full: 77.46 Wh
energy-full-design: 93.24 Wh
energy-rate: 11.468 W
voltage: 12.575 V
time to empty: 6.4 hours
percentage: 94%
capacity: 83.0759%
technology: lithium-ion
icon-name: 'battery-full-symbolic'
History (rate):
1451133244 11.468 discharging
What's a good price for a X220 without any drives? In euro cuck state currency?
T61 with Arch here, generally for learn linux i'm using as desktop replacement since my mobo died and doesn't have enough money for buy another mobo.
Anyway where i can find cheap ram for this? I have only 1,5 Gb of ram right now. And this support 8gb if i'm correct.
>>52064618
Download more ram
>>52064618
>And this support 8gb if i'm correct.
You're wrong, it only supports up to 4GB.
It uses DDR2, just find a couple of DDR2 SODIMMs on ebay or whatever.
quick, differences between a T420 and a T520
I found a really good one seemingly, but I don't know the differences, it seems pretty much the same with a better screen
are there plans to expand carbon steel? would love something like a W using it.
>>52064659
Different size, better screen (from the factory at least) and cooling on the T520.
If you're adventurous, T420 has better screens available through some custom shenanigans though those are difficult to get your hands on as far as I know.
>>52064590
here you go http://www.amazon.com/ThinkPad-2-53GHz-802-11a-draft-n-Wireless/dp/B001JICTAG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1451133955&sr=8-1&keywords=lenovo+t500
is this decent
>>52064737
>>52064719
forgot too quote
>>52064737
no it's shit
>>52064499
http://produto.mercadolivre.com.br/MLB-711898066-notebook-lenovo-thinkpad-t420-core-i5-4gb-ram-hd-320-gb-_JM
buying
>>52064778
>>52064719
dude 500 for 141 dollars dont spend 868 for a unupdated lenovo idiot.
will a X1 with a egpu out perform any of the W?
>>52064796
a new one:
http://www.kabum.com.br/produto/34231/notebook-lenovo-thinkpad-t420-intel-core-i5-2520m-4gb-hd-320gb-dvd-wind7p-14-4180l88
3rd world here bro
>>52064805
Maybe the old Core 2 Duo/1st gen Core i W series machines, but W520 and newer, no.
The eGPU might make the X1 get better gaymen performance than a W series without an eGPU, but that's it.
>>52064818
>>52064719
amazon br is probably cheaper just check the price dont spend that much they come refurbished.
http://www.ebay.es/itm/Portatil-Lenovo-Thinkpad-T520-Intel-i5-2520M-8GB-250HD-Pantalla-15-/231793507794?hash=item35f7f83dd2:g:IjIAAOSwZ1lWeGpa
please tell me if you guys see anything wrong, looks like a steal and I will get it if you don't
>>52064843
i think there is no way out
amazon br doesnt have any and .com:
http://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-Thinkpad-T420-Certified-Refurbished/dp/B00W4AMWCI
converting to br dilmas = R$1036
i think i will get the first one is the cheaper and the vendor is from a city next here
sry for the language jungle fag here
>>52064907
I see the reported model is "4291WUB" which apparently is a X220?
Does that just mean it shares drivers or am I getting ripped off? A X220 is definitely smaller, so no idea.
pls respond
>>52064907
>>52064981
That 4291WUB does look a bit fishy. X220 and T520 have mostly the same specs, but a T520 still shouldn't show up with an X220 model number like that.
I also don't see any mention of screen resolution on that page, meaning you risk getting a 1366x768 panel which would make you hate everything ever.
I wouldn't go for that one, familia
What is the Ultimate Thinkpad I should be looking for? 2nd generation t420? I'm not too concerned with system internals such as HDD and RAM, as those can be changed later. What screen should I look for?
>>52065224
There is no "ultimate" Thinkpad. Look for the one that meets your requirements.
If X series, look for an IPS screen. If T/W series, look for 1600x900 or 1920x1080.
You can't avoid 1366x768 on older X series, but you should avoid it at all costs on T/W series.
>>52065128
I made the math using the system information page and the 1366x768 screen I'm using right now, it's a 1600x900
>>52065128
seller says he sells lots of thinkpads and he just clones images and he used a image of X220 for the 520 because it's compatible
legit or not? guy has had the account for 9 years and has 100% positive reviews, and I'm using paypal so I can always return it
I've got the upgrade window appearing on my x220 running a fresh install of W7. Should I go for it, /tpg/? Will the drivers continue to operate as usual?
>>52065371
I upgraded from a pirated win7 to win10 and it works fine. You can always roll back if you're not happy with it.
Some of the drivers may need to be updated, but I think windows update takes care of it.
>>52065371
never install windows 10 holy shit
>>52065224
The T420 is best described as the jack of all trades of Thinkpads. It has a dedicated graphics option, but it's just an entry-level card. Better than the integrated in the X series, but nothing compared to the big boys in the W series. It has a 1600x900 screen, but it's TN and isn't very good even compared to the same resolution screen in a 15" Thinkpad. The CPU is socketed and can technically be upgraded to a quad core, but the cooling isn't really designed to handle it like it is on the T520 or W520. It gets reasonable battery life and the size isn't too bad for portability, but an X220 kicks the shit out of it in both categories. The one area it excels in over everything else is price/performance. It's "ultimate" in the sense that it's the best Thinkpad to buy if you don't know what Thinkpad to buy, but can only afford to buy one.
>>52065252
What math ?
Just fucking ask the seller about the resolution.
>>52065342
It's probably legit then.
>>52065470
Yeah upon thinking for longer than 30 seconds I just asked him. I suspect it's 1366x768 now, which considering it's a T520 means he changed the screen, right? Isn't 1600x900 the default?
>>52060812
Lenovo says the max is 8, but you can put 16 in. I have 12 in mine and it just werks
>>52065519
>Lenovo says the max is 8, but you can put 16 in
But what does that mean? The max is clearly not 8 when it can support 16.
>>52065483
No, 1366x768 is the "default" screen in the base configuration for a T520.
The 1600x900 and 1920x1080 panels were available from the factory in the higher-end configurations and as an option if you customized it. They're still very easy to get your hands on for a relatively cheap price, and only require a little technical know-how and carefulness to upgrade from a 1366x768 panel.
>>52065483
>>52065470
>>52065552
nm, seller confirmed 1600x900 so I'm getting it and ruining his perfect score if he lied about anything
considering he replied to my messages almost instantly I have a feeling he's kind of obsessed about it
http://www.pcworld.com/product/1280521/lenovo-thinkpad-t520-4243-wm9-.html also this is the model according to the seller, and it says 1600x900 is the default
newer model maybe?
>>52057858
>What Thinkpad do you have and why that model?
X220, small with nice keyboard.
>Which OS(s) do you use and why?
Mint, first time using Linux
>What do you use it for?
Chinese cartoons and shitposting.
>Do you use a HDD or a SSD and why?
Both, it came with HDD and I added the ssd.
What capacity and why?
125ssd for OS, 300 HDD for storage
>Do you use your M-SATA slot? If so, what capacity and why?
Yes, for the ssd
>How much RAM do you have?
12gb
>>52065569
That's where different configuration come into play. What you're looking at there isn't the cheapest baseline T520, different configs have different part/type numbers.
For instance, my own T520 is a 4243-W54.
https://support.lenovo.com/dk/da/documents/pd015761
>>52065660
nice, so an even better deal than I anticipated
definitely getting this
Any Scandis with a T420 ITT?
The only decent reseller in Norway seems to be refurb.no, but they charge 4000 Nok (~420 EUR) for the "high-end" version (1600x900, 128GB SSD, i5-2520M).
Are there any other decent resellers, and should I still be looking at a T420 at that price? I need a Uni Computer (Comp Sci) so it seems like the best option I have, but I dont have any experience here.
Ordering internationally isn't an option as I get fucked in the ass by import tax.
>>52065371
windows 10 is the best i've seen for driver research, it literally installed everything without problems the time i installed it on my now dead old and shitty HP laptop, you can do a fresh install and (if you don't have important files on it) save time
>>52065670
It's okay depending on the battery and condition I guess. I paid about 260 EUR for mine with an upgraded CPU, RAM, and HDD, and a fairly recent 9-cell battery: >>52064609./+o+- setsuna@setsuna-ThinkPad-T520
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>>52065750
you probably don't live in spain, I think I did okay considering my circumstances
also thanks everyone for the help, I'll blog a bit more when it gets here
>>52065779
Nope, I live in Denmark, the market is also somewhat expensive compared to other places here.
But it's a fine deal as long as the battery and overall condition are good.
is 1.6ghz 2gb ram, 160gb hdd t60 worth buying if you want to experiment with linux on it? Or is it too old already?
>>52060324
I wish OneNote had a linux equivalent. It's easily the best unique part of MS office
>>52057844
Is there anyway I can use the center button of my T420 to open new tabs instead of it being a scroll button for my clitmouse? When I disable the trackpoint, it also disables the 3 buttons.
What do? OS is win10.
>>52066264
Seems pointless spending money just for experimenting. You can do that on a newer machine, unless you're getting it dirt cheap.
my X200s
>>52066291
Add it to your startup folder.
>http://users.v-lo.krakow.pl/~mwrobel/programs/tpmiddle.html
>>52066381
Exactly what I needed. Thanks anon.
What's about the retro thinkpad? Any news?
anybody else running *BSDs on Thinkpads?
>>52057858
You know what's great?
Buying a t420 for 100 bucks and reseating the 8 gigs of ram that the previous retard owner incorrecly installed for 12 gigs of ram.
I was gonna dual boot this thing, but fuck that, OpenMW lets me play Morrowind on Linux, and Xubuntu is nice, so I can just use a VM
>>52065371
Windows 10 is fine but run the debloat/botnet github script, install classic shell, etc etc.
Compatibiility seems fine, though I can't play Hitman Blood Money for some stupid reason.
I bought a T400 and I've got two questions:
>how do I reassign the corner key (Fn) to act as a CTRL key? Pic related
>the Thinkpad sticker came off and it's bugging me, where do I get a new one?
>>52066671
I've got a T420 and in the BIOS, there was an option to switch the Fn and Ctrl keys so they work as the other.
Sticker should be available online.
>>52066671
bios
ebay
So this started happening to the lip of the lid of my T420. How do I fix this and how good is eBay returning?
If i was ever forced to use a Desktop, this would be it...
>>52066714
>>52066737
Cheers m7s
So why is it not possible to place a fhd screen in a t430/t420 without any modification. I know lvds is capable of fhd.
tfw OSX has better CPUManagement on supposedly unsupported hardware (x220t) than Windows 10.
>dat turboboost lock 3GHz on win10 that drained my battery on 12 minutes.
>>52066869
forgot pic like a faggot
>>52057844
I installed a clean win10 on my T420 and want the Lenovo OEM logo to show up on my system info screen.
I created a new string in the registry editor under OEM information and added the image location to it, but it doesn't show up.
>>52061013
Why not? CDE is perfectly functional for most tasks
I just got my X230 for myself for Xmas... I want to put a good linux distro on it but I'm a complete noob in that respect, and I still want to be able to retain all functionality of my system like fingerprint reader, webcam, and use of the thinkvantage button(for SOMETHING), drive protection, etc. What linux distro should I look into and how do I install functionality for these features on linux?
>>52060953
what a scrub. i had a x60t with snow leopard back in 2011 when i was on uni
they jelly cuz my penabled screen.
they saw me swivel down the screen they hated
Anybody got one of those $100 X220s yet? Are they legit?
Found a T420 for 210€, isn't that a bit too cheap?
So, got a story for you
I had a Thinkpad about a year ago that was stolen from me
When I say stolen, I mean my stepmom hid it from my dad during a nasty divorce (he had it as a loan for work)
At the time, I had an MSI FX603 I was playing with, so I didn't care. I had Prey installed, so I just set it to missing and waited
Today, it's online. The computer had no password (thanks, Dad!) And due to the way she got the machine, I technically can't report it stolen because my only proof of ownership is Prey
I have an IP, MAC, etc. I'd like to ruin the thing to a point she junks it. I know where she lives, so I can go get it from the garbage later. What can I do with all this?
Also, I set it up. No AV, just had to use common sense
>>52068562
That is the spergiest thing I have ever read.
>>52068562
The fuck is the story, if it's not yours give it back. If someone else got it through dishonest ways then the stolen goods themselves will be enough punishment. It will be a constant reminder of wrong doing.
Don't get involved with shit that's not yours or be prepared to involved in shitstorms.
>52057858
>What Thinkpad do you have and why that model?
x220, sweet spot between portability and features.
>Which OS(s) do you use and why?
Windows 10. Accountant.
>What do you use it for?
Average office stuff.
>Do you use a HDD or a SSD and why? What capacity and why?
SSD, less mobile parts is good. 120 GB, I don't really need much.
>Do you use your M-SATA slot? If so, what capacity and why?
No.
>How much RAM do you have?
4 GB
>>52068623
That's the problem
The thing is mine. But she has possession because she had it hidden all throughout the divorce, claiming an employee of her company stole it when he quit
We reported it stolen with her claim
She has possession of it, which means the report was falsified, and that's a whole new can of worms
I bought a T420 now, but I just want to give her a bad day for taking something that isn't hers
>>52068623
Also, it was a T430, which is why I'm even more mad
Thing wasn't cheap
Whats about the damn retro Dankpad?
>>52067393
Halp plz
>>52068843
Soon™
>>52068886
install mint or ubuntu,
yada yada yada bloat, well you will need to wade through the bloat as you are a noob when it comes to linux.
i would say Fedora, but namejokes aside you will need to set all the stuff by yourself.
>>52068886
Those functionalities will work with any decent distro. If you aren't familiar with linux I suggest Ubuntu. The fingerprint reader and webcam work out of the box. You can encrypt your drive(s) too.
If you want to try something other than Ubuntu all of that will still work, though it may require some tinkering. You might want to try Debian, Fedora, Arch or Gentoo.
>>52068562
if you had nothing installed to remote login you have nothing to do unless you rely on social hacking ("hello my name is rajeet, pls install teamviewer").
the best thing to do is to find an excuse go knocking on her door and make her give it back to you (i heard that particular model has an explosive battery)
What's the max amount of RAM a x220t can / should have?
So I recently ordered a used Thinkpad T61, but it needs a new battery and charger. Can anyone provide a Amazon link to either that's not going to cost me out the ass, and that I can trust?
>>52068963
Well, then
I guess remote wiping and hoping she assumes it's broken is one idea
Or maybe she still likes my grandfather enough she'll take it to him to fix then he'll give it back to me
anyone else excited for the zbook studio? also the new precision laptop looks pretty nice. can i buy used easily on ebay in a few years like i can thinkpads?
>>52057858
>T420s and T400
>Win7 on both
>T420s my main laptop and T400 secondary and testing shit
>SSD on both, 120GB on T420s and 60GB on T400
>No
>8GB on T420s and 3GB on T400
When I set the CPU power state to adaptable (the setting just before the highest possible CPU frequency state) my frequency is always stuck at 100%.
Is the power manager not able to scale the frequency according to the usage of the CPU or is Windows hogging up resources?
I just want to lower my temps.
I wanna be able to do some photo editing and light graphic design work. Are there any Thinkpads that have a decent screen/color accuracy? I was looking at the x220 tablet because I liked that it had a stylus with the touchscreen with wacom digitizers but from what I read even the IPS screen is kinda meh.
>>52070325
W series for colour accuracy.
W520 has a 95% gamut 1920x1080 panel and a hardware calibrator built into the wrist rest. It's a TN panel, but it's as good as it gets when it comes to colour accuracy in the *20 series. Alternatively, T520 also has the same 95% gamut panel available, but no hardware calibrator on that model.
Not sure how much you have to step it up to get an IPS panel in a W machine.
>>52070325
Probably only the workstations (W series) and the carbon have accurate panels. More so the W series with built-in colorimeter.
With laptops you compromise, just get a nice external monitor and the IPS x220. Or a mac and enjoy shit quality control and bending over at the apple store for repairs.
i7 T430s or i7 T430 and why?
>>52070751
i7 T430
Better thermals and battery
re-applied thermal paste on X220t
1/5
had to remove the whole motherboard because the heatsink is on the bottom side...
>tfw just ordered a refurbished T420
>>52071267
packed the shite on their good
>>52071292
there's a cpu under there
>>52071308
spread
>>52071322
and back together
this concludes today's adventure
>>52057858
Thinkpad T420
Switched from mint to freya.
School mostly.
SSD 120gb might upgrade it but it works.
I have 6gb ram.
>>52071342
idle temp maybe dropped 2C, fan is off/silent though
under constant 60%~ load (gayme) it no longer thermal throttles, so that's good and was pretty much the goal
mission successful
>>52069051
Would really appreciate some feedback on this.
>>52071292
who the fuck applied that thermal paste
those poor capacitors
HP ELitebook 8470p reporting in
Damn this thing is cumfy and fast!
>>52071505
just get genuine, used if you had to
the t500 I bought came with a genuine 6 cell that didn't hold a charge and an off-brand 9 cell and off-brand battery
some problems I've had with the battery include the thing getting unreasonably hot during normal use, granted it could have been a pebkac issue but the used genuine 9 cell I bought hasn't got anywhere near as hot (despite being banged up in the mail and not being perfectly straight), and more concerning, the plastic case breaking meaning the locking mechanism failing and the thing possibly falling apart with a strong enough knock
the off-brand charger seemed fine, other than the 3 pin connector only having a cable with 2 conductors...just soldered to the 3 pin connector on 1 end and connected to the 3 pin plug on the other... with metal ground pin on the plug side... the used bashed up genuine charger I bought weighs an absolute ton more, gives me a lot more peace of mind
>>52068888
Fuck
>>52057858
T420: best value under $300, was between this or X220/230, wanted >768 resolution and ability to swap to quad core
Win7Pro only, tried Win10 but some bugs (mainly Photoshop) made me switch back for now. Have used linux in the past but need muh application support
graphic design, learning to program, muh games, muh chinaman cartoons
SSD main drive (120gb 850 evo meme): lightning fast loading is not a placebo
HDD secondary drive in place of cdrom (320gb WD blue that came with the T420): storage
don't use the msata, a SSD of any usable size would cost more than the entire laptop
8gb ram
pic related
I'm getting a free r40. What distro should I load it up with?
Need a thinkpad that weighs max 1.6kg anyone wanna help a brother out?
Min. Screen size 13"
Msata slot would be nice but doesn't matter
>>52068999
anyone?
>>52066291
>windows
>disabling tracpoint
Who /sortofwant/ here
Hey guys I have been looking for a Laptop for 200-300€ with the following characteristics:
>Dedicated GPU for Video Editing/Directx 11/Open GL light gaming/OpenCL
>Quad Core CPU
>Can have be upgraded to 16-32 GB of ram
>2 Hard drives (Not including ultra bay)
>Dock
Anything available at this price range?
I can honestly make due without it being able to play modern video games mostly doing retro/PS2 and things like DoTA2.(but it has to be atleast capable of running directx 11, intel HD 3000 isn't good enough for me)
And then I'm also going to work largelly in 2d Autocad and Video edditing and run OpenCL programs.
>>52072888
Thanks but for that price i had a nearly new T430 two years ago.
Guise, I need 15.6" (or bigger) with good battery life.
Is E550 good choice or should I settle for IdeaPad?
>>52073091
27 of them?
>>52073112
T520 or T530 with 9-cell battery
So after a little research, it appears to my untrained newfag eye that the T420 is capable of accepting an Alienware m14x r2 display like this one http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00AV56SNM/ref=cm_sw_r_tw_awdm_nJYFwb1NK3WEP
Without any weird cable routing or hardware modifications. Correct me if I'm wrong on anything I've said so far, but I'm unsure if I need to modify the bios to install this screen assuming everything I've said is right. Any help lads?
>>52073063
It might be possible in America, but since you're asking in Euros you're most likely fucked. T420s are around that price in Europe and what you're really looking for is a W520. The T420 does technically meet your needs, as it has a dedicated GPU option, can take a quad core CPU, maxes RAM out at 16GB, and has an mSATA and SATA slot so you can have two drives before accounting for Ultrabay. It's really the bare minimum though, that GPU is an entry-level wimp, the cooling wasn't designed to handle a quadcore, you can't upgrade to 32GB of RAM, and the mSATA slot is probably not what you're looking for.
>>52072888
...there's only 25 Thinkpads in that pile
Is there fucking anything that compares to my R61? The build quality, the keyboard, the trackpoint; it's all perfect. If this existed with modern hardware, I would pay anything for it. The C2D and 2GB RAM isn't cutting it anymore with how bloated windows is for the programs I need it for. Are the new thinkpads really no comparison or should I drop the cash? I'm seriously considering a T450/T550. I don't want one of these faggoty 12.5" or 13" things. Even 14" is ridiculous unless it's 1600x900 at minimum. Even 1920x1080 in 2016 is fucking silly.
>>52072888
damn you're paying $22 each. That's awesome if they're all working.
>>52073206
>wanting to put a part from a gaymur laptop on your glorious thinkpad
Kill yourself
>>52073320
pic related
>>52066890
>>52066869
Was it difficult to set it up? Did you encounter a lot of issues?
>Docking solutions that easily turns your laptop into a desktop.
What are some examples of this?
>>52071292
Dear God, that has to be one of the worst thermal paste applications I've ever seen. What the hell were those Chinamen thinking?
>>52073511
The docks for older Thinkpads (I think the --00 generation and maybe 60/61 too?) had a PCI-E slot you could plug a desktop GPU into for use with your docked Thinkpad. They don't have that anymore, although eGPU is still a possibility on newer Thinkpads. Docks these days mostly just add more ports and an extra Ultrabay, and let you plug all your stuff into the dock and then just lift the Thinkpad out when you need to take it somewhere, rather than having to unplug your mouse, monitor, power adapter, etc. each time you wanted to take a shit in the middle of shitposting.
>>52073244
Time to go bargain hunting for a w520 and jew everyone I know to pay their debts to me.
Thanks.
>>52073614
The W520 has never been worth it. What are you talking about?
>>52064679
bumping question.
>>52073614
You can also consider the HP and Dell alternatives, the Elitebook 8460w/8560w and Precision M4600 respectively. The price relation of the three brands seems to vary by area and you might be able to find a better deal on one of those in your area than you would on the equivalent Thinkpad.
alright guys, x140e for $400 or 11e for $270?
>>52072853
Thinkwiki, search for your model. :^)
>>52073585
You could get them, and they worked with the 61/60 series as well.
When I first went off to university, I bought a T400 with just the basic shitty integrated graphics and an advanced docking station. The main problem with it is that you could only use low-profile single PCI graphics cards, which sort of limited its abilities to make your Thinkpad into a portable gaming station. I think I initially tried cramming in a Radeon HD 4670 from my old gaming desktop, but it wouldn't fit because of the fucking fan. I had to settle for an older HD 3450 with a heatsink, which performed about as well as the switchable Mobility Radeon HD 3470 I could have otherwise had. After I finished first year university, I bought a Radeon HD 5450 on the cheap, which massively improved performance, but was still a decidedly budget-minded card with pretty low performance relative to other things in the Radeon range. Still, you COULD upgrade the GPU your laptop "used", which was worth something.
In the end the whole "lack of space" issue became a moot point after I moved out of residence, and I would have been far better off with a mini-ITX rig. But if you're a poorfag or just like unorthodox arrangements, then the Advanced dock is kinda neat. It's bullshit that they no longer offer it, but I guess they would rather have people upgrading their laptops every year or two rather than just swapping in a new eGPU.
>>52073974
Both awful prices for awful machines. Get an X220, some guy on ebay is selling them for $100 with no RAM, HDD, or AC adapter.
What is the difference between the T450 and the T550 that is not related to the larger screen/numpad? Does the T550 have better thermals?
>>52073614
>>52073685
>mfw got W520 for $292
Completely worth every penny
>>52074087
what are the exact specs?
>>52074055
The general trend in the relationship of 14 and 15 inch T series is that the 15 inch ones have better screens and cooling to compensate for their seriously massive size. Although I can't imagine a ULV Broadwell with integrated graphics ever getting hot under any workload. In older generations the 15" models also supported quad core CPUs, but in the age of muh thin and light that seems to no longer be an option.
>>52074053
x220 obviously has the better keyboard and layout, but how does performance compare to something newer like the 11e?
>>52074097
>Core i7 2720QM
>8 GB RAM, came with 16 but one stick was bad, got a $30 refund
>500 GB HDD
>Quadro 1000M graphics
>1080p AUO screen
All in all it's breddy gud, some cosmetic scratching and whatnot but that doesn't really matter to me.
>>52074087
os2 mousepad... swag.
>>52074320
Full-voltage Sandy Bridge doesn't fuck around. You might not pull the same battery life, but the X220 still manages around an hour per cell and has the slice battery if you can find one.
>>52074426
alright, what's a good price on x220's nowadays? I see a listing on amazon for $380
>>52074485
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-x220-12-6-Intel-Core-i5-2540M-2-60GHz-No-RAM-No-HDD-Win7ProCOA-/151923737829?hash=item235f5c44e5:g:cWEAAOSw~otWeG4U
$100, bring your own RAM, storage, and AC adapter. Even if you have to purchase all of those you shouldn't end up spending over $200 in total.
>>52074485
>>52074529
Also, if you're gonna buy an HDD instead of an SSD, know that the X220's SATA bay will only take 7mm drives. If you're getting an SSD this doesn't matter since they're all 7mm.
>>52074529
>>52074597
I think I'll end up buying this. Thanks guys!
>>52057858
Lenovo x1 Carbon 3rd gen
Windows 8.1, I just got the laptop recently and havent bothered to install linux on it. I'm a pretty big noob when it comes to linux so I'm just planning on trying out xubuntu.
Schoolwork, web browsing, watching movies in bed, some light photo editing when I'm on vacation.
512GB pci-e ssd. Just wanted a lot of storage I guess.
No, I don't believe it has an m-sata slot.
8GB
guy lives nearby, seems like a steal, should i go for it?
>>52074855
more pics and details?
