http://www.ghacks.net/2015/12/23/mozilla-needs-to-focus-add-ons/
A lot is going on at Mozilla, makers of the popular Firefox web browser. In the next 12 months, the organization plans to make fundamental changes to the Firefox web browser which affect core features of the browser including its add-on ecosystem.
>>52029550
all good things must come to an end
I can't wait to sit back and watch firefox kill itself, gonna be fun.
>>52029550
>fundamental changea
Nothing good comes after someone says those words.
Makes me sad, it's like finally losing someone you knew for a very long time to cancer.
Can't wait for more SJW faggotry, Hello(tm) and Pocket(tm) bullshit
>>52030239
It's not "like" cancer, it IS cancer a.k.a. SJW.
Was a longtime ff user but changed recently
>Firefox 44: Add-on signing cannot be disabled anymore in Stable and Beta versions.
Oh i didn't realize it was stable and beta only guess I will just move to the devopler edition
>>52030479
>to not be treated like a drooling retard you need to move to a different fork
Fuck MOozilla.
>>52029550
I already had to drop the main branch because that add-on signing bullshit kept messing with me
>Firefox 44: Add-on signing cannot be disabled anymore in Stable and Beta versions.
oh boy.
IT'S OVER MOZILLA IS FINISHED!
Who needs Mozilla's carbon Chrome imitation anyway....
1) Otter Browser, Qupzilla, Qutebrowser, Midori - for all Open Source loving guys with the need of ricing features.
2) Vivaldi, Centbrowser, Slimjet, Maxthon - for all guys who can live with proprietary crapware which may be using Chromium as base but offering customization features you never will see in Chrome and also no longer in Firefox or Opera!
Always remember, for every browser which gets turned in a carbon Chrome copy at least a couple of others arrive which show the middle finger to Google's dictatorship that every software has to lose features, and only must feature design and minimalism!
Fuck Google for destroying feature rich software! I always have to laugh recently that more and more Chrome forks appear where you can customize quite much, that must be SO humiliating for Google to see that all their treachery and all their lobbyism against features and choice is backfiring heavily by people turning the flagship of Google by forking into a feature rich software :D
Btw. merry Xmas everyone
how do I know whether the Addons I'm using are signed?
>>52031269
If they work and do not disappear?
when uBlock works with Midori or QupZilla I'll use it.
>>52031305
Both have a working adblock system built inside.
>>52031335
but I want uBlock
>>52031355
Then go and use Chromium or stay with Firefox which will end as Chrome 2 in the end.
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>>52031409
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>>52031371
that's exactly what I'm doing.. unless uBlock becomes available for another browser
good, you can't hold back progress just for the sake of not breaking some autists addons.
>>52030269
>using a botnet browser that downloads proprietary blobs without asking you
>>52031433
Why wouldn't you just stay with firefox?
>>52031462
that's what I'm doing.
>>52031432
With how fucked up things are in software these days, outdated IS good
firefox devs just don't know when to stop messing with features, just focus on making gecko a decent rendering engine.
>>52031524
Outdated web browsers are especially troublesome in the Internet security and web technology fields.
>>52031568
You missed their memo. They are removing various UI features in order to slim down the browser codebase. This is a direct admission from their developer blogs. The fact that people are saying that Mozilla's goal is to clone Chrome is just their imagination as Mozilla have said nothing officially about making Firefox's UI to be a Chrome clone.
>>52031568
Removing XUL/XPCOM would go a long way toward that though. The entire purpose of deprecating XUL is to allow Mozilla to remove all the legacy baggage that is stuck to the gecko rendering engine. This is actually likely a good thing in the long run for forking and development but the process wont be pretty at least in the short term. A lot of addons will be wreck and need to be brought over to the new API
>>52031485
Enjoy a second rated lame Chrome copycat browser with almost no ricing features!
Stupid fag!
>>52031611
You are just a lame Chrome clone loving fag and Mozilla apologist. Feature removals are only because Mozilla tries to get the users back which have left towards Google Chrome.
Mozilla is a power user betraying garbage company.
>>52031578
Sure, if by that you mean they're troublesome for not having retarded functions nobody asked for like Pocket while also having proper features.
>>52031622
at the moment it's still better than Chrome
(and has more ricing features)
>>52031636
enjoy your chrome
>>52031620
And that new API will offer a small percentage of the features XUL offered.
Also, userchrome.css will be limited too, all that simple users are not confused. I am no longer using such a browser where the developers have decided that mainstream users are of more worth than advanced ones.
Mozilla has no right to change usergroups. Their obligation should stay with power users.
>>52031637
No, not at all. I was actually thinking about Internet Explorer 5 and how many web developers had mandates to maintain compatibility with it even up till 2010.
>>52031658
> Their obligation should stay with power users.
Nope.
>>52031653
How fun, Vivaldi or Otter Browser or Qupzilla or Centbrowser have more customization features than Mozilla Chrome 2 carbon copy.
Which shows that if developers want they can indeed add features also to a non customizable browser.
And Firefox shows that feature take outs only happen with a company wants to be mainstream.
Engine and UI are 2 different things. And Gecko is also easily able to handle tons of features and speed, so you see cock sucker, that it is all about Mozilla changing target user groups.
>>52031658
>Also, userchrome.css will be limited too
There has been no indication that userchome.css will be hindered in any way, they have zero reason to mess with that. Even if they went to a full html interface like they're planning there's no reason for userchrome.css to break xul is just another markup language the syntax is nearly the same as html's.
>>52031681
That only a simple fag can say. Shut the fuck up asshole! Only you cock suckers are so ignorant to have the opinion that only your minimalism and your design have a place in a product. But you are wrong asshole! Fuck you, grab a gun, shoot yourself in the head and end your existence you little third class category of a subhuman scum!
>>52031684
>And Firefox shows that feature take outs only happen with a company wants to be mainstream.
What does this mean?
>Engine and UI are 2 different things. And Gecko is also easily able to handle tons of features and speed,
Did you know that Gecko is completely capable of rendering the Firefox UI? protip: Mozilla are porting the XUL UI to Gecko.
>so you see cock sucker, that it is all about Mozilla changing target user groups.
No I don't see that. That's just your imagination, Mozilla have said nothing about this.
>>52031681
You guys should all be grabbed and sent back to World War 2 so Adolf Hitler would be able to send you all to hell you little anti customization fascist jews!
>>52031700
>>52031714
Shut the fuck up minimalist fag asshole! It is all about cloning Chrome and getting lost users back you fucktard asshole, stupid worthless SJW fag, fucking woman, worthless rat which should be wiped out by sending down to Syria without weapons and cloth
>>52031738
>>52031741
Worthless American infidel! Burn in the ever lasting hellfire! Your Obama is nothing more than a Muslim invader asshole, Fucking anti conservative anti Christians anti traditional marriage gay asshole!
>>52029550
reminder that fedora declared signed extensions in Firefox a DRM scheme:
https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1518
>>52031776
I bet you even go to church. I am enlightened because of my intellect and not because of some phony God's blessing.
>>52031409
MEME
>>52031749
As soon as Trump is president he will wipe your liberal asshole and he will send all truly anti American communist assholes including such worthless shameless anti American liberal companies like Mozilla back where they belong! Into the past where they had no meaning at all!
Fucking liberal asshole scum! Pray to god that he forgives your sins you fucking anti American creature of hell!
>>52031812
>Operating system that uses package signing criticizes web browser that uses extension signing
>>52031842
>mum, there is some liberal insulting me in 4chan, bawwwwwwwwwwwwwwww!
>>52031814
Who is not believing in the grandness of god has no right to exist you liberal fucktard! Just pray that you will only be wiped out and not punished with pain and misery for a long time!
Trump will end the life of such traitors like you and there will be no place where you can hide your anti American asshole! We find you and nuke you into dust cunt!
>>52031856
>Operating system that uses package signing
for transport, you fucking retard. you can install packages locally without signing, and you can do whatever the fuck you want with your system. try doing that with firefox... oh right, you can, after removing the DRM in the source and compiling it for hours. reminder, though, you also need 32GB to compile it.
>>52031877
>>52031814
Terry, you forgot to take your pills again? what are you doing here, you should be in a psychiatric hospital
i already switched to chromium pre-emptively. been a firefox user since 1.5. sucks, but mozilla did this to themselves - there's no use using a shit chrome clone, and there's no philosophical reason left
>>52031451
firefox also does this with an adobe DRM package iirc
>>52031866
Who do you call liberal you fucking bigot! I am proud member of the Teaparty movement you fag!
>>52031877
That's very gay you know.
>>52031409
It's in desperate need of 60fps Youtube.
>>52031938
Just wait and see bigot! When Don has won we are allowed to hunt you down you socialist communist democrats and then we send you all straight to hell!
Not believing in god, no respect of war veterans and even supporting anti American SJW liberal companies like Mozilla who support islamization of America!
How does it feel to betray your country again and again liberal asshole?
I just use Seamonkey with Otter as a backup.
>>52031938
How about taking Mozilla and go into an Islamist country where you can lick day and night the cocks of your master-race? I would not be surprised to find out that you are fucking Islamist scum too ! Just fuck you worthless fucker, you are a shame as you have no patriotism inside of your smelling body you anti American fag!
>>52031973
It feels just like this
>>52031929
You are. You are the most left of the liberal.
>>52031906
>for transport, you fucking retard. you can install packages locally without signing, and you can do whatever the fuck you want with your system. try doing that with firefox
Unlike fedora which has basic privilege separation, firefox has no separation current system. Any extension you run has same privileges as the browser itself. Mozilla is trying to forbid untrusted extensions from being installed to prevent rogue extensions from compromising the user's profile. They also want to eventually remove all insecure addons and replace them with sandboxed extensions that have to declare what they want access to.
>oh right, you can, after removing the DRM in the source and compiling it for hours
The last time I compiled firefox I did it in a VM with 2 cores set the execution cap to around 70% and it took like 40 minutes. This was on an old Phenom II x4 955 mind you.
>>52032025
Oh i see you are no American you fucktard! We are no liberals, we are Republicans you fucktard. We are the rights - and the only political group which should have a right to exist.
>>52032038
What are you exactly? Some fucking European slave race which we Americans feed with TTIP, nuclear weapon and genetically manipulated food which will destroy your agriculture.
We are leaders, you are not!
>>52032009
>he's actually an american patriot
>>52030140
firefox came to an end a couple years ago
ITT: schizophrenia
>>52032036
>Unlike fedora which has basic privilege separation, firefox has no separation current system.
well, there you go, mozilla should have worried about security from the start, instead of letting people get used to insecure software and then restricting it.
>The last time I compiled firefox I did it in a VM with 2 cores set the execution cap to around 70% and it took like 40 minutes. This was on an old Phenom II x4 955 mind you.
and then you have to do this once or twice a month. and this is YOU, most users don't even know what compiling software implies, and/or wouldn't waste time building this shit.
btw, how much RAM did you assign to that VM?
>>52032038
>full of classic liberal think
>I'm not a liberal
What a hypocrite!
>>52032078
>and then you have to do this once or twice a month.
I did it like 2 months ago just for the hell of it. I wanted to try it because there was an article on Mozilla that laid out the instructions.
>btw, how much RAM did you assign to that VM?
It was 1GB IIRC. I only have 4GB on my actual machine so there's not a lot to assign anyway.
>>52032126
You do not understand anything of political thinking and believes. With such a worthless liberal like you i am not going to talk any longer. Just be assured, you are watched and you will be dealt with when the time has arrived.
>>52030269
Yeah me too. I've been a big fan of it for 10+ years.
Then mozilla starting treating users like me as doormats and handing out sappy excuses after the deed was done (fuck you mozilla, too late for excuses). Add that to the fact that they kept shilling improvements like e10s for years and making a big fuzz about it all, but it fucking took forever, always being postponed and postponed.
Then I become an addon dev, and they trampled me again.
Fuck you mozilla.
I'm a vivaldi guy now and you can all burn in hell with your bullshit.
>>52032078
I have to ask, are you a programmer?
Back when Firebird was a thing, the Internet, the web, and knowledge of web browsers were a different time. They couldn't know about the kind of lessons back then. It takes real experience to develop that kind of knowledge.
>>52032159
Finally someone with a brain. To hell with copycat SJW liberal companies, who only serve woman, gays, lesbians, Muslims or other subhuman groups!
>>52032158
Pot meet kettle! Come back to me when you stop being a hypocritical liberal.
>>52032173
Liberals are gay loving, Muslims loving fucktards. I hate gays and i hate Muslims. So i can not be liberal you worthless woman
>>52032189
Wow, you even make definitions to common words just like that! Just like a true liberal.
>>52032210
Oh shut the fuck up subhuman! Trump will wipe your ass you fucktard. You will burn like every true heretic! will burn in new age America, believe me, it is coming and not even Muslim invader Obama will save your worthless butt afterwards anymore.
We will drive you anti patriotic scum out of the country and send you flying!
>>52032237
I bet you can't even get doubles.
>>52032210
And we will do so with Mozilla. You can then go and live with that scum SJW assholes in any Muslim country of your choice. Of course your women will be forced to wear burka or hijab and you assholes will pray all day long.
Hope you like that future of yours anti American fucker! I bet you will lick the dicks of your new Muslim country's leaders with pleasure!
>>52032252
Yeah, just take also a look to Europe, you democrats are running out of time, people realize what for hypocrites you are and are helping the only true leaders to gain power!
Liberal America is soon dead, liberal Europe is soon dead. And then true law and order is coming and you will realize that it will be very hard to survive in every single civilized country of the world after that time has arrived.
>>52029550
>not using the ESR version, keeping the best features, support, and avoiding the cruft
>>52032312
ESR will end as Chrome clone too when the time has come.
been meaning to change browsers ever since they caved into reddit pressure and fired one of their board members for donating to a pro-family organisation
where do I go now?
>>52032301
I pray to Mohammed peace be upon him that true law and true leaders gain power. inshallah
>>52032317
That never happened.
You can have a look at Palemoon.
>>52032325
Haha! Muslim scum! You will never rule in Europe or America. We drive you stone age morons out of your countries and then you can goatfuck in your own desert lands!
>>52032339
>implying the western powers aren't profiting with the war and not giving a fuck about terrorism
You have a lot to learn, son.
>>52032339
It's too late. We own all the jewish banks in America. We have all the power of America.
>>52032317
im going with yandex, same as chrome but with russian botnet instead of google
>>52032164
>I have to ask, are you a programmer?
I am
>Back when Firebird was a thing, the Internet, the web, and knowledge of web browsers were a different time. They couldn't know about the kind of lessons back then. It takes real experience to develop that kind of knowledge.
they could have worried about security when they switched from 3.something to 4.0, then.
the thing is, they started losing marketshare, and now they are in a much more fucked up situation
>>52032448
Especially when they started to got greedy. Copycat something in the hope that competition products users are switching over can work, but there is no guarantee for that.
Mozilla just made a miscalculation and the fact that they constantly have chosen unhealthy relationships and have marketing guys as leaders instead of people who care for technology and features is not helping them either.
>>52032448
>and now they are in a much more fucked up situation
Why do you think marketshare is important to Mozilla?
>>52032534
The logic tells you that if you want to grow you have to gain users. And to gain users you have to become a plain Joe/Jane product.
And to be attractive to them you have to eliminate ricing features. And with that move you anger power users. And if Jane's or Joe's are having no interest in you either, you are in trouble.
>>52032534
And the higher the market share, the higher is your importance for future specifications or drafts in the world wide web.
If you do not have a high enough market share you have to be at least a company which has enough influence and importance to turn drafts into actually used specifications.
Google and Apple are such (bad) leaders, Mozilla is not (a leader).
>>52032429
well fuck, i cant figure out how to change ui to english, is it even possible?
>>52032556
Why does Mozilla need to grow? Mozilla do the work they do for their own sake. They're not porting Firefox from XUL to Gecko for the sake of fun, they're doing this to reduce the codebase of Firefox thus making it easier to do things like secure it and updating it to use multiprocessing.
>>52032573
You have to download an english build from the ftp
Yeah, they're too retarded to embed localization as a programmed feature with resource files. Instead they compile separately for every language.
>>52032566
>And the higher the market share, the higher is your importance for future specifications or drafts in the world wide web.
The w3c specification doesn't work that way. The way it works is that if the main browsers are doing something (and it's not prohibited by patents or things like that) then it's going in the spec. Mozilla will not lose their seat or power in w3c given the fact that they are a founding member of w3c.
>>52032534
Oh sorry, i have misunderstood your question.
The reason why Mozilla cares about market share is that they want to gain the same influence like Apple or Google.
Right now Mozilla is just a bystander which has to accept what others decide what is standard and what is not.
And they are losing users, so their value is decreasing more and more. During Firefox 21 times there was no need for looking out for market share, but these days the situation is no longer as good as in that long gone days.
And to this post my 2 other ones are fitting now exactly. Just made the mistake like George Lucas did with Star Wars... telling the movies which are first seen story wise after the one's which are seen story wise later but have been produced earlier :P
>>52032575
It is incredible that there are still so many Mozilla shills and apologists around which which try to ignore reality. You know nothing of business or money.
And with this i am ignoring you. Because you are just a lame troll. Go home to Reddit.
>>52032616
>Right now Mozilla is just a bystander which has to accept what others decide what is standard and what is not.
I don't think this is true given the fact that they are a member of the w3c and they have equal say in the spec as every other member.
>>52032616
>And they are losing users, so their value is decreasing more and more.
And that's nobody's fault but their own.
The fucking retards destroyed everything firefox stood for and didn't manage to surpass other browsers in any way. Most suicidal company I've ever seen.
I'm glad I don't have to deal with the consequences of their stupidity anymore.
>>52032575
They do that because they are switching away from a Geek's browser towards more mainstream.
Mainstream=less features less choice
Geek= more features more choice
Take a look at Vivaldi. That guys are the opposite. They are Geek developers. No matter how hard you are shilling, the facts are not changing. Mozilla is no serious company anymore.
Opera is no serious company too. They have both decided to be mainstream and less geeks ware. And the rest of power users will leave when the transition to almost Chrome is done. Which will reduce market share even further and also reduces importance even further.
>>52032629
Mozilla is a non-profit organization. Why does a non-profit need to constantly grow? Mozilla does things for their own sake (as defined by their development charter). They have no shareholders who attract a dividend from Mozilla profits. People do not hire Mozilla to write web browser software. So again I ask, why is growth important to Mozilla, a non-profit organization?
>>52032678
Mozilla have never been a commercial company.
>>52032686
>They have no shareholders who attract a dividend from Mozilla profits.
Business people will still squeeze money out of them and into their pockets. And more money is all businesspeople care about.
Businesspeople will exploit anything they get their hands on to get more money until there is nothing left.
>>52032673
Exactly that is what i and others are saying since years. We said that since Firefox 23.
We have predicted exactly that, and it has become reality. That was the reason why i also switched towards Seamonkey after Firefox 29 and now i am using Otter Browser as main and Vivaldi as secondary browser.
The point is, a company can decide to be feature rich or not. And like others say code complexity is no excuse to remove features. All you need is a logical code tree structure and people who know how to handle code.
And a bit of money is also not bad. Mozilla has everything. They have money, they have people and they have knowledge.
And yet they removing features.
While devs from Vivaldi or Otter have almost no money, have almost no people and have also not the deep knowledge of Mozilla and yet they are adding features.
And the most lame excuse is code complexity.
>>52032707
If your goal is to make a profit through business, it's best to do this with a commercial company, not a non-profit company. I believe you don't understand what you're talking about with Mozilla as all the leaders in Mozilla have had a long history writing software technology.
>>52032699
they are like Google only greedy for money. Open Source and non commercialism does mean shit actually. Without money you can not pay people or you can not host your servers.
Mozilla needs tons of money.
>>52032726
Vivaldi and Otter had the benefit of starting from scratch. Firefox doesn't have that option.
>>52032686
Greed, jealousy of bigger browsers. the hunger for importance and influence.
Mozilla shill, go home! No one falls for your lame Chrome copycat way of arguing.
>Simplicity and minimalism and design only because it is the only rescue of Firefox
This argument is both stupid and ridiculous. And with that i really leave this discussion. I do not talk with Mozilla shills or simple users.
I have seen enough software been destroyed thanks to guys like you and i am so sick of your lame attitude. So, because it is Christmas i do not tell you to fuck yourself but instead i wish you merry Christmas.
>>52032726
>And the most lame excuse is code complexity.
I don't think you understand what Firefox has to do. Vivaldi only has to think about Windows, x86 Linux and OS X. Firefox has to work on a much wider range of platforms. Windows, x86 Linux and OS X are just the beginning for Firefox. It also works on various ARM platforms, SPARC, MIPS and whatever they use in televisions. Vivaldi does not.
>>52032741
Mozilla needs tons of money but they put all that money into writing software and administering people. They don't pay profit dividends to anybody.
>>52032761
Really? So Firefox always was existing? Come on, stop being an idiot. Mozilla started out as unique, feature rich, power user browser.
They started out as creative non mainstream software. Only recent years have changed that.
You are either a totally moronic shill or just a plain idiot. Anyway, welcome to my banlist. And merry Xmas you too!
http://www.ghacks.net/2015/12/24/temporary-add-on-loading-coming-to-firefox/
mozilla-status: damage-control.
>>52032776
Who are you quoting? I have never said such a thing.
>>52032786
>Customization is against Mozilla's new vision, that their whole UI has one single widely known and recognized branding identity. Firefox should look, feel and function everywhere the same.
Customization runs in the opposite end, so it is not desirable anymore for Mozilla, or at least only of minor importance. All for simple users and all for Mozilla's unhealthy rivalry with Google Chrome. That is Mozilla's thinking, they are clearly leaning to a simple user base which values only design and minimalism, a user base for which consistency is of more value than to have a unique layout chosen by the user.
>>52032317
>calling anti-gay "pro family"
>>52032829
Sorry, i am not quoting you exactly, but that is the truth behind your words. Everyone with half a brain can read that out. I had the "pleasure" to deal with people like you alrady since 20 years!
So, do not think you can fool me son!
>>52032866
Who are you quoting? That wasn't in the post.
>>52032879
You should not quote things that I didn't say! That makes you a liar!
>>52032883
That you wanted to say. I know shills like you. Just tried to remove the obfuscation of your posts.
>>52032893
*lol* My dear sun is butturt! Oh sorry honey, i will offer you a hot good chocolate tomorrow as apology :)
Just face it boy, you are owned and pwned. Game over honey!
>>52032905
I'm sorry but none of that makes any sense. Here is a picture of a cat because I like cats.
OP you are still here? This whole tread is only a sum of hostility and curse words, how about deleting that old tread and opening a fresh one where people are not hostile or butthurt?
Thanks for reconsidering.
>>52032816
>Mozilla started out as unique, feature rich, power user browser.
Actually Firefox* started out as the minimal browser based on the Mozilla Suite's source code. Firefox removed all of the features and power user functionality that was integrated into Mozilla. It was designed from the start to be small and extensible. However due to being based on Mozilla's source it still suffered from a large amount of legacy cruft. Stuff like XUL which formed the core of firefox and was basically impossible to remove at the time. A few years ago Mozilla introduced to the addon SDK/Jetpack initiative to phase out the reliance on XUL and binary components instead encouraging devs to rely on html/js. The jetpack initiative has been around for years and now there are significantly fewer addons relying on XUL so Mozilla has officially announced that XUL is being deprecated and will *eventually* be removed.
>>52032924
Simple user, simple brain.
I understand you child, i understand you. But i can not help you gaining a new brain, i have not enough money to pay the surgery for offering you more brain capacity 8-)
>>52032933
>minimalist it was born, minimalist it should be
Minimalist fag discovered. Again, you guys should have no saying in how technology is turning in the next few years. If you guys would try to understand how functions work, perhaps then you would react like an adult who accepts that choice has a right to exist.
>>52031671
I regularly send complaints to websites I visit pretending to be grandma using IE6
>>52032933
From the 20 years of which i am forced to deal with that kind of users like you, i already have lost half of my hair because of guys like you.
It is always the same amount of arrogance. Advanced users respect diversity, features, different workflows in one single product.
Simple users like you always complain if there is even one single button too much for them.
I am really missing the Amiga days or the C64 days. People there had the wish to explore, to try out something unknown, they had the wish to actually advance and grow.
But users like your kind today is the exact opposite. It is not Google who is to blame, it was Microsoft with Windows who started the trend for software dumbing down. And that has today grown to an universal design paradigm.
>>52033042
And what is even worse, even the coders of today have become lame lazy bastards for which only a shiny design and minimalism is of importance.
That new age paradigm which we have today is the most disgusting for every technology loving person.
Humanity loses brain capacity instead of growing some. Otherwise we would not have that many wars or bloodshed's constantly around the globe.
>tfw staying on Firefox 40 forever
>Firefox 46: The projected release version for Firefox Electrolysis (multi-process Firefox).
Haha, great joke. They've been promising e10s since forever.
>>52033097
And you made me sad actually, because you remembered me of my age actually which is increasing today by 1 :P Damn you Anon!
>>52033101
If they introduced it right now then XUL addons would break left and right. XUL addons make changing the internals of firefox impossible that's why Mozilla is trying to get devs to migrate to a stable API instead.
>>52032994
You're very special given that most grandmas using IE6 would not formally complain about broken website. They'd normally be griping to anybody close by about how "the Internet doesn't work".
>>52032686
Mozilla's money comes from default search bar deals and homepage ads.
If less people use Firefox, the impressions and searches go down, so they can't charge as much for searches\impressions, and their revenue goes down.
Honestly your post is one of the most monumentally stupid things I've ever read on /g/. And that's saying something.
>>52029550
>TFW I update Firefox.
>Shumway is fucking disabled now.
Why does Mozilla not only has to go full retarded, but kill Seamonkey, TOR browser, Palemoon, Icecat with their retardation. Using Mozilla forks are useless now because Mozilla has effectively posion well for all of the promising forks.
I guess have no choice, but to move because Firefox refuses to understand it's FOSS community, and add-ons was at one point made it the most powerful browsers in the world
>MUH MINIMALISM,Desigg
You people value aesthetic over function.
>>52033872
Decoupling XUL from gecko will go a long way toward encouraging forks and derivatives if anything. When everything is done it should be possible to use gecko in the same way that webkit is used. Applications could use gecko for rendering html/css if they wanted to(though it's not likely many would want to). The biggest advantage will be that Mozilla can migrate to servo whenever servo reaches feature parity.
>>52032686
>Mozilla is a non-profit organization.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Corporation
>The Mozilla Corporation, as a taxable organization (essentially, a commercial operation)
>Upon its creation, the Mozilla Corporation took over several areas from the Mozilla Foundation, including coordination and integration of the development of Firefox and Thunderbird
Chromium is the best browser I've tried and I have no complaints.
>inb4 botnet
>>52034550
botnet
>>52034488
It's a wholly owned subsidiary of the Mozilla Foundation. All money the Corporation makes is sent to the Foundation to be reinvested back into the organization.
I move to Vivaldi as soon as I notice you can modify its UI like Firefox.
>>52034874
enjoy you're botnet
>>52029550
>that GUI when Seamonkey master race
you can shrink the icons and it looks 1000% better
>>52034874
You can already, you have the equivalent of userchrome.css - in Vivaldi it is called custom.css - Same as powerful
>>52034940
Enjoy using Firefox, the second hand carbon copy Chrome UI clone browser which is having less and less features in the future.
>>52034874
bout to give vivaldi a go, how's the addon scene?
>>52034988
>tfw no uMatrix for Seamonkey
>>52031432
>>52031578
It's not. Palemoon is based on an older version of firefox, yes, but the devs backport security fixes and actively develop it.
>>52036172
Literally this. I've been using Pale Moon for a few months now and I've had no problems with it so far in fact I'm looking forward to the release of v26, uBlock Origin works flawlessly, I've got Greasemonkey 3.6 with 4chan x, ViewTube and Anti-AdBlock Killer installed all working correctly. There is nothing wrong with Pale Moon.
Anyone tried Yandex? I rarly see too many people talk about it.
>>52035169
you can just manually install it, you know?
I use ublock, though
>>52034028
>Decoupling XUL from gecko will go a long way toward encouraging forks and derivatives if anything.
Fragmentation of Firefox forks are bad because we lose compatibility for add-ons, and mozilla-ecosystem wide performance/security updates.
SEE
>>52031812
Mozilla should be in control of everything if they could do that, and their adware scheme.
>>52032877
yes
what's your problem with that
>>52032336
Forced to resign, fired. Same thing. If the board asks you to resign you are effectively being sacked.
Will the death of XUL mean death for Vimperator and TreeStyleTabs?
>>52037704
The old vimperator will die but it looks like the vimperator devs are actually looking forward to the new API since it gives them an excuse to do a rewrite which they've been planning on doing for a while.
https://github.com/vimperator/vimperator-labs/issues/264
They're putting in requests for APIs so they can make a new vimperator
>>52037471
>Mozilla should be in control of everything if they could do that, and their adware scheme.
protip: the code is open source so therefore they cannot control everything. open source drm means the user can control the drm.
>>52037704
It'll be easy enough to do TreeStyle tabs in the new UI.
>tfw when Firefox is the only browser that cater to my needs
I am so fucked.
>>52037563
No, Eich was not forced to resign. Eich would have been more happy to get fired over voluntarily resigning if he was protesting the board's decision for him to be forced to resign. Eich resigned on his on volition because he felt that Mozilla's mission is far more important than his employment as CEO. Why does he feel this way? Eich was one of the founding members of Mozilla and he helped shape the mission statement. If Eich was truly bitter, he would stop working at Mozilla altogether.
If all of these extension deprecation kill tree style tabs, I'm switching to Vivaldi.
>>52038104
Fuck off cuck. Eich's successor also get the fuck out of Mozilla less than one year after Eich left because even Andreas Gal was sick of Mozilla.
No wonder why Firefox mobile was cancelled and Mozilla is still scrambling to find a new CTO when they lost 2 CTOs in barely two years.
>>52038296
Mozilla have a CTO. His name is Dave Bryant.
>>52030934
Google here, I couldn't hear you over Chrome market share domination.
>>52038502
Good on you. Keep Chroming.
>>52038371
A literal who from the failure that is Nokia.
>>52037353
I tried but it says that Seamonkey is not supported. Do I have to edit install.rdf to get it work?
when the only real competition firefox has is a botnet they can do whatever the fuck they want
>>52029550
Change is Bad
