CPU Upgrade
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Sup /g/
I'm considering upgading to a new CPU from my FX 8320. I need something that can render and handle OBS a bit faster. I don't have a lot of cash to spend and I'm not fond of Intel. I was looking at the FX 9590 because Pistol from Tek Syndicate had a lot of good things to say about it.
Does /g/ think my choice is good, or should i stick with what I have?
Get the corsiar h110i to cool that beast
>>52020837
>I'm not fond of Intel.
Then you're retarded and not worth helping. My friend just built a PC with a 9590 and it gets shit on in 3dmark my my i7 920 that came out in 2009.
invest in a good cooler/motherboard and overclock the shit out of that chip
>>52020905
Pretty much my plan. I plan on getting a Gigabyte UD5 990-FXA Board plus a Silverstone TD02 water cooler. Do you know what the overall OBS Performance gains are like?
>>52020901
I Haven't used an Intel CPU since the Pentium 4 horseshit and I'm glad I haven't.
>>52021001
You're glad to have not used fast, power efficient chips with excellent single core performance in addition to excellent multithreaded performance that overclock well with minimal voltage and heat increase.
Ok.
>>52020837
If you want OBS performance you need a bunch of cores. An i7 is pretty much the only option that won't be a downgrade for streaming. Just quit whining about Intel and buy a 4790k
Just wait for Zen. It's only 6 months.
>>52021126
Wow, last i heard it was gonna be in Q4 of next year, but i guess the small wait will be worth while
>>52021116
Don't have the cash, so Itel is not an option. Sorry
Only a literal retard swears allegiance to a brand rather than just using whatever suits their needs best at that particular time.
>>52020837
That's right you know what the Jews at Intel did, I don't have to explain it to you. Just get the 9590 and overclock it. It's multicore performance is great, and price/performance is waaay better than Intel. Unless you're a gaymer and need single core performance like the Jew above me.
>>52021126
Nah, that's Zen-compatible AM4 motherboards. Zen itself is gonna take until Q4.
>>52021156
If you don't have the cash don't upgrade. Have you overclocked your current CPU?
>>52021156
Then you can't afford to upgrade.
>>52021078
Bajeet! SHILL!
Take a break, your paycheck has been already deposited, go spend some time with Jaya and your sons, its ganeeshxmas tomorrow
>>52021078
>that overclock well with minimal voltage and heat increase
Bullshit. My i5-4690K won't go over 4.3GHz without me ramping up the voltage to stupid levels, at which point thermals start to get scary.
Funny, as the FX-6300 that I used before this i5 also didn't want to go over 4.3GHz without going into the dangerous temp zone, with the exact same cooler.
>>52021234
Everyone knows that anyone who states facts in a shill.
>>52021270
Sorry to her about your shitty motherboard or loss of the silicon lottery. Better luck next time.
>>52021078
In that case you really should use your eme arrows, like that
>I'm glad to have not used fast, power efficient chips with excellent single core performance in addition to excellent multithreaded performance that overclock well with minimal voltage and heat increase.
I like your style, but you're lacking technique
>>52020901
>my old cpu beats that new cpu in a gpu benchmark
Am I being memed?
>>52021294
If you'd ever ran the program you would know there is a CPU only physics test.
>>52021293
I don't often have to recite the obvious so I don't have much practice, I'll work on that.
>>52021291
>shitty motherboard
Asus Z87-Pro. Far from shitty.
The AMD board I used was way lower quality, and I managed the exact same overclock on that. I seem to have lost the silicon lottery with both CPUs, but to state "Intel CPUs overclock great with minimal voltage and temperature increase" is flat out wrong.
>>52020905
This, if you're not pushing the chip past it's stock capabilities you don't deserve to upgrade.
Coolers are pretty much forever so think of it as an investment.
If you end up getting the 9590 check your PSU first since it's a REALLY FUCKING power hungry CPU. Also I'd recommend getting an aftermarket cooler even if you're not OCing
>>52020837
Don't waste money on the 9590, just go intel and sell your AMD garbage.
I used to have an 8350 @ 4.8 GHz but it doesn't come close to my 6700k at stock speeds.
>>52021331
>but to state "Intel CPUs overclock great with minimal voltage and temperature increase" is flat out wrong.
When everyone else has this be true for them but you, it is still true.
>>52021703
Oh yes, I totally am the only person on the planet with a shit overclocker of a Haswell chip.
>>52021727
That or you have a $50 motherboard and stock cooler paired with a 200W PSU.
>>52021746
I already said in this post >>52021331 that I'm using an Asus Z87-Pro, so my motherboard's far from shit.
700W PSU, no dice there either.
Stock cooler? Nope, pic related on full blast couldn't even keep it cool.
I know I got a shitty chip. That alone proves that you can't generalize Intel's overclocking ability to be better than AMD's.
>all this AMD shilling
holy shit just shut the fuck up and buy Intel
>>52021829
good goy
>>52021810
Did you take the sticker off the cpu?
Did you even use thermal paste?
I would've RMAed it the second I found out it overclocked badly.
>>52021842
What sticker on the cpu are you talking about?
>>52021863
The clear plastic one on the front. You said haswell right?
Don't tell me that you didn't take it off lmfao
>>52021911
Fine then, Devil's Canyon if you want to be specific.
>>52020982
~25-35%.
>>52021863
>>52021956
>>52021979
>>52021863 is a different anon. I'm 100% certain there's no sticker on my CPU.
>>52021911
>>52021979
>>52022001
When I bought my skylake it didn't have a sticker on it when i went to install the heatsink
>>52022053
Me neither, just got a 6700k. My previous 4790k did.
5930k best cpu
>>52021829
>oy vey just pay up goy!! you're not poor are you??
>>52020837
Don't do it meng, the fx 9xxx processors are just overclocked fx 8xxx processors.
Get a good air or water cooler and overclock it as high as it'll go.
Save your money for zen.
>>52022188
>8.7 Ghz clock speed
bull
fucking
shit
In the same boat as OP but not so against Intel what's that xeon that's the same thing as an i7 but like a 3rd of the price
>>52022203
LN2
>>52022203
>core voltage
>>52022248
hahahaha holy fuck
>mfw I'm waiting for Zen low end
Please don't be another bulldozer
>>52022188
Seems like a nice way to warm your house.
>>52022543
If my room's too cold I just throw a big overclock on my 290 run a CPU+GPU stress test for a bit. Works pretty well.
>>52022503
Don't expect much.
A Zen core is just a bulldozer core without 2 extra int pipelines and a single flow instead of split.
Current "8-core" bulldozer based FX are going to be quad-core Zen.
8-core Zen will be a step above in terms of price and performance.
>>52020837
just OC and wait for zen
>>52022700
You have no idea what you're talking about, zen is an entirely new architecture.
Early am4 processors are based on carrizo, zen will be out late 2016.
>>52022700
This should lead to some significant single-core performance improvements though.
>>52022700
>how do we make better single core performance?
>turn 2 cores into 1
>>52020901
Oh please my fx 8320 is better than your 920 in both single and multithreading, unless you OCd to high heavens
>>52020901
I have an i7 870 and I know you're full of shit.
At 4.1ghz it loses to an overclocked fx 6300.
It loses to an fx 8320 in every way when stock or overclocked.
Fuck you and your shilling.
>>52022738
So you admit AMD is lying then? These pictures are from AMD. Do you think you know more about AMD than AMD?
>>52023056
When did I say that?
Zen is an entirely new architecture built by keller. It is in no way based on bulldozer.
It's even using smt instead of cmt.
>>52020837
For God sake, this thread is a bait!
SAAAAAGEEEEE!
Everyone on the planet will tell you to go with an intel i7 for encoding and streaming using OBS. The 4790k is 50$ more expensive but you're going to be spending the same amount or more water cooling a 9590.
>>52022765
Why don't more Intel CPUs have more cores?
Honestly, I thought Intel would be into 16+ core territory, but doesn't their lineup top out at 12 cores or something? And it is/was only on the Apple Trashcan™?
Stick with what you have until Zen. if it's decent, and it sounds like it probably will be you'll be glad not to have a 9590. The 9590 is a silly CPU; it uses a shitload of power runs hot as fuck and under-performs compared to modern Intel CPUs even at the same pricepoint.
It is also literally a better binned version of the CPU you already have. You already have a 9590; if you want a bit more performance and dont mind using a fuckton of power and running hot as fuck overclock your 8320 it to 5ghz. Don't do that though; wait for Zen. .
>>52023224
It's much better to have powerful single core performance and then use hyperthreading to space out workload.
>>52023006
Lol no, 4.5ghz and it shits ALL OVER 8xxx series.
Getting mad doesn't change facts.
Intel must be paying top dollar for shills to post on /g/
>>52022074
My 4790k didn't have a sticker, but that's probably because I bought it in the OEM plastic blister package
>>52023333
quads confirm
>>52023259
Okay. And it's better to have multiple powerful cores. So why is Intel lagging?
It seems to me that their typical recent CPU lineup is still centered around quad cores. And it seems rare to see an Intel laptop with more than dual cores.
>>52020837
you may not like intel but honestly any modern i3/i5 will rip through a 300$ amd cpu.
just swallow your false pride over a fucking manufacturing company and get the better product. grab a skylake i5 or some shit if you dont want to spend too much.
>>52020837
The 8350 is the best bang for the buck on the market, especially if you wait for a sale.
I'm not changing CPUs again until either AMD comes out with a great new lineup, or I switch to Intel.
>>52021649
>hur hur my literally brand new >$300 CPU shits on the $150 3 year old CPU
Are you retarded?
>>52023136
>it's built by keller, it's gonna be great
aMD shills need to leave
OP's CPU can be overclocked, it's just a lower binned "8" core amd model. buying anything of the 9xxx amd cpu's is just a higher binned chip that's set to run faster from the factory.
the cpu market is bullshit right now. there are no real bargains. MAYBE OP could scoop up an older generation 6 core i7 and get some cheap gains. maybe.
>>52023535
What's wrong with the 8320/e?
>>52023576
>doubting based Keller
What a coincidence this just came out.
http://www.purepc.pl/karty_graficzne/test_zestawow_core_i5_4460_vs_fx_8300_oraz_gtx_970_vs_r9_390
I actually own a both CPUs in this test, actually i5 4440 but the only difference is 0.1Ghz and a FX8350 which I clocked at 4.6Ghz
You should at least get a 4690K if you plan to upgrade I hear the new Skylake locked CPU's can be overclocked with selected motherboards so that might be something to look into too.
>>52020837
Last year I upgraded from fx8350 to i5 4690k
>Never gonna AMD again
>>52023778
i've been pleasantly surprised with my 4440. it usually runs closer to 3.3 ghz anyway.
>>52023778
Locked Skylakes can only be overclocked with one specific ASRock mobo, but the core multipliers remains locked. What the ASRock BIOS does is allow for BCLK multipliers to be changed without causing the CPU to have a tantrum.
Technically, putting a locked Skylake in a Z170 board allows for the slightest of BCLK overclocking, but none of the CPUs and mobos I've tried allowed for more than a single point change in the BCLK before throwing a fit. Memory overclocking (via XMP profiles) works wonders even with games. Seriously, buy a cheap Z170 board with an i3-6300 and the fastest memory with the money you have left for FX-8370E-beating gaming performance. Don't believe me? Look up the benchmarks.
>>52020901
>yes good goy support isreal and dont forget free software is evil
>>52023842
I just like good performing cpus, I don't really care about whatever drama you made up.
>>52023837
it runs at 3.3 with turbo enabled, I havea asus z87 motherboard with it and I can force all cores to 3.3Ghz
>>52023841
The problem with BCLK overclocking is that also overclocks SATA and PCI-E and a bunch of stuff too because it's all tied on the CPU side, but now that problem is gone with Skylake as everything is no longer tied together, overclocking with BCLK is nothing new, it was widely done before intel fucked up haswell.
>>52023853
>amd performs bad
nice maymay
they have a great money to power ratio
>>52023602
I don't know anything about the 8320. All I know is that the 8350 is a great bang for the buck. If I remember correctly, people claim the 8320 is "just an underclocked 8350" (which probably means it's simply flaky at 8350 speeds). In that case, if I already had an 8320, I'd probably look for a good cooling solution and overclock it.
>>52023879
So does a rock.
>>52022806
But his ~300% price increase totally makes it worth it, he's a smart consumer
we all know intel is the wise buy :^)
>>52023879
So something is a meme when its proven to be true? Is that how it works on /g/?
>>52023910
Seeing as how a 920 is $40 on ebay its a pretty smart buy for anyone that wants amd crushing performance for cheap.
>>52023822
So you downgraded?
Uh okay cool
Ey guys, big gulps huh? well alright see ya later.
>>52023932
well meme rajah
>>52023927
>he buys his hardware used on eBay
oh wow, I'm really sorry for you.
anyway, nice false comparison attempt.
>>52023958
I don't see what part you're not understanding here.
Are you really so fucked in the head that you continue to claim AMD makes good cpus even though everyone knows that is false?
Herp derp you're a goyim, wow shill much, etc etc "MEMES LOL" is just dumb, stop acting like a ten year old and start accepting facts, because denying proven fact makes you look fucking retarded.
>>52023940
sure thing buddy, go tell your mom how that closed loop water cooler makes your 970 runs so well for the tenth time today.
>>52023958
Where can you buy a new 920 for $40?
>>52023997
it actually runs better than AMDs 390
see >>52023778
This whole but NVIDIA is evil! is only spouted by AMD owners who worry on behalf of Nvidia users.
>>52021270
What I see is someone who needs a new cpu cooler
it's okay goy
who could have expected you to do any better with that substandard gaming equipment?
>>52024012
Don't care, I just want a fast CPU. Things that don't affect me don't concern me. If you want performance, you need to pay up. thats how the world works. Let me guess you're gonna cry about how much ferraris cost next.
>>52024025
lol, you're not supposed to admit it.
>>52023870
This, I managed to push an old Athlon II X4 620 from 2.6GHz to 3.5GHz using BCLK overclocking.
>>52024048
Admit that AMD owners are lunatics?
Even an i5 4440 is better than a FX8350 not to mention cheaper too as you don't need a high end motherboard or aftermarket cooler for it.
>>52024081
You forgot to mention the power bill.
>>52023870
Until ASRock's work-around, locked Skylakes did not react well to a BCLK increase beyond a few points. I really hope Zen is the knock-out blow to the market so that Intel would stop Jewing us into spending more for performance that's locked away via firmware.
>>52023778
>hey let's test using BF4
>but let's not use Mantle because then AMD would win by way too much in every bench
GG POLACKS
>>52024145
MAD cuck detected
>>52020837
>buy a new cooler
>overclock it to 4.5 or higher
>done.
maybe when any current game bottlenecks my CPU i'll upgrade, until then it's pointless no matter what you have.s
>>52024173
Just because you're not sitting at 100% load doesn't mean a faster CPU wouldn't perform better.
>>52024145
if it makes you feel better I own BF3 and in Caspian border my FX8350 at 4.6Ghz would drop below 60FPS while my 4440 can maintain 60+FPS without problems
That's with everything at Ultra, if I want 60FPS with the AMD CPU I have to drop Mesh settings to Medium but them you literally cannot play with Jets or Recon without having a huge disadvantage for not being able to see enemies n the distance.
Also it's not like Mantle is widely popular and used by everyone.
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