Any (better) alternatives to this piece of shit?
Gmail
see >>52009326
>>52009253
mutt, but what are your qualms with thunderbird?
>>52009253
But why? It's the only thing mozilla ever done right since it went to shit with Firefox.
Opera Mail
>>52009253
Outlook.
>>52009344
>2016-8days
>text email
I'm all for CLI and text-based tools, but how do you live without built-in HTML email? I send and receive in plaintext whenever possible but sometimes it's not an option
>>52009326
you mean a browser? are you retarded?
>>52009344
the interface is shit, and now it's doing some weird shit.
>have 5 email accounts
>compose and send email as account 1
>the email receiver sees my email sent as account 2
>the email even gets sent to the "sent folder" of the 2nd account
wtf is this?
>>52009383
mutt can use whichever editor you want, so you can send HTML email if you want.
>>52009433
you're configuring it wrong. mutt can use hooks when you switch accounts. if you switch to account 2, your "sent as" should be hooked for account 2, but conversely when you switch back to account 1 it should hook back to account 1. it might seem daunting but is actually really logical.
tl;dr rtfm
>>52009481
I just sent a test email. I double checked the "from" field in the email compose window, and it still sent it as the wrong account.
>>52009373
Abandonware
I typically just use Evolution Mail.
>>52009511
So is Opera 12.16 but it's still the best browser. By no means does currently supported = better program
>>52009433
>>52009481
oh wait, you're talking about thunderbird
yes, the interface is shit, but you can configure it to be a little less shit.
you're still configuring it wrong though. check your account settings, especially the "Outgoing Server (STMP)" setting for the account.
Or maybe it's a bug. I switched over to mutt for a while when NTLM didn't work on some Thunderbird version.
>>52009344
It's possible to use w3m to render html emails correctly in the display pane. Works 90% of the time. The rest of the time there is a text version of the email available.
>>52009550
>"Outgoing Server (STMP)"
there's only a dropdown, with google mail named 3 times, no way to differentiate, but by trial and error, I found the one corresponding to that specific gmail account.
Is there a place in thunderbird settings where I can configure and see a better (detailed) list of smtp servers?
>>52009392
Are you, retarded? There aren't many pros to using an email client anymore. I understand the differences. I merely presented the better alternative, jackass.
If you're so concerned about offline email, use Gmail Offline.
>>52009383
Replied to wrong response.
It's possible to use w3m to render html emails correctly in the display pane. Works 90% of the time. The rest of the time there is a text version of the email available.
Outlook
Only program Microsoft got right.
>>52009605
>the better alternative
only if you're some faggot who only used Gmail and uses it for everything.
>>52009326
>>52009605
>asking for email client
>this autistic retard spouts "HURR BROWSER WINDOW WEBMAIL"
>>52009634
There is a gmail app u fagtron
>>52009614
>Only program
MS Office is still better than all other options
>>52009646
>desktop program
>app
>>52009605
>retarded
>>52009433
>>52009550
pic related concerning the interface. i think this looks pretty good.
>>52009614
absolutely horrible. to name the #1 worst thing about it, it should not handle both e-mail and schedule
>>52009603
Outgoing Servers, in the list of accounts
>>52009253
there is literally nothing wrong with Thunderbird and it has the best extensions for doing actual real work.
Nope
>>52009709
foobar is inderdaad goed.
>interface
You only have 2 account, I use 7 in total, and the fact that I can't just have it show "inbox folder" and "sent folder" only bugs the fuck out of me. That side bar gets full and cluttered as fuck.
>>52009709
>Outgoing Servers, in the list of accounts
that is non descriptive cancer. pic related, which one of my 3 gmail accounts does that smtp belong to? I can't tell unless I choose it and send an email.
>>52009751
>>52009709
>interface
this is what I mean
>>52009751
I actually have 3, but my work one only supports Exchange, and only on their local network (haha).
7 addresses sounds like too much.
>>52009383
i have mine set up to open the html file in my browser with a keybind
>>52009784
ah there it is. I had to go and edit every single one, to give a descriptive name (so I can see in the drop down menu, which account it should be assigned to)
>>52009253
alpine
>>52009830
well meme'd
Inky
>>52009326
thats not even an email client
>>52010009
it is on my smartphone.
>>52010041
Thunderbird doesn't run on mobile
>>52010064
>>>Gmail
>>thats not even an email client
>it is on my smartphone
>>52009939
What? I use it, along with the client in my Samsung S3.
>>52009253
mutt. Ritlabs' The Bat! Evolution Mail.
Or stick with Thunderbird. Just because Mozilla isn't interested in it anymore doesn't mean it won't be forked.
Claws Mail
>>52010041
>it is on my smartphone.
>"smart" phone
>voluntarily carrying a government and corporate surveillance device
>"smart"
>>52009326
>Gmail
Only supports one provider. No PGP support. And what about LDAP?
Mutt
>>52009380
free software only
>>52009253
icedove
there you improved the only bad thing thunderbird had.
>>52010930
The guy that makes palememe already made fossamail
>>52009253
mail on windows10
eM Client
>>52009605
Unless you are some typical harry or lucy, I'd suggest getting some sort of mail software that watches for new emails.
Personally, I have 4 email accounts that I monitor. It's much better having notifications when you receive your mail so you can reply to critical emails much sooner. It's much more reliable and you find that the website interfaces (namely if you're using hotmail or that shit) go down often while the mail servers are still up.
I have a professional email hosted on my VPS, A paypal/bank/ebay/aliexpress email, casual email, and a spam email.
this
Geary
>>52009253
Every alternative I've tried sucks. Email just isn't interesting enough for devs to make a well-rounded app out of it.
who the fuck still uses email clients when you can just open a browser tab
>>52009751
>>52009774
>the fact that I can't just have it show "inbox folder" and "sent folder"
But you can.
Granted, they made it horribly difficult to change. It just took me 5 minutes to figure out where the option was.
Press F10 to enable the menu bar, (the option is not in the new menu), then click View -> Folders -> Select 'Grouped'
>>52013417
>who the fuck still uses email clients when you can just open a browser tab
Does your browser tab support PGP or multiple accounts from the same provider?
>>52013480
Not him but it does here.
>>52013536
Sure, with clunky browser add-ons that don't work with all e-mail providers.
>>52013669
No, I'm using OSX.
>>52009253
Gmail webinterface. For every other mail account just go with Thunderbird
>>52009253
Mailbird.
You're welcome.
>>52013102
>professional
>hosted on my VPS
Pick one.
>>52013802
http://www.getmailbird.com/pricing/
No thanks.
>>52013829
Are you this cheap?
>>52014026
>paying for an email client
No thanks.
Best client is the provider's client + pop peeper or something for desktop notifcations.
I'm reluctant to say thunderbird now because 1) it's mozillaware 2) it's abandonware 3) it supports nothing but pop and imap, so forget about exchange for example and fuck the guy that made exquilla. Also thunderbird sucks at integrating well with eg gmail, showing stupid root folders and shit instead of just adapting itself to how the service works like what literally everyone else does.
I use sylpheed, if you're a spartan like myself, try it.There is also ClawsMail, a fork.
>>52014491
>exchange
>>52011743
>not having all your email sent to Gmail
>not sending from 5+email addresses in Gmail
Full pleb
Emacs.
>>52016389
>Trusting Google with all your e-mail
icedove
On linux, geary is good if you only use it for email. it's minimal, looks good and don't have all the bloat from trying to look like outlook
>>52014577
Some of us have jobs, and those jobs use Exchange.
>>52012134
the only non troll post
Yandex
>>52016563
Not every organization uses Exchange.
>>52016563
My last job used IBM Lotus Notes
>>52009253
https://www.mailpile.is/
>>52016651
>>52016655
That might be true, but I was arguing the other anon meme arrowing Exchange.
Few of us use Exchange because we think it's amazing or superior. We use it because our jobs use it.
Google inbox
>>52016651
Clearly his does faggot so shut up.
>>52014491
We have Zimbra as a mail server where I work and their desktop client is a giant piece of shit.
It's basically a Java webapp so it needs lots of RAM and is slow when it needs to process tons of mails.
Thunderbird works well as an alternative, it even supports CalDAV and CarDAV for contacts and calendar.
>>52016743
Can confirm my job used to have Zimbra, we have since moved to Google Apps which is million times better.
>>52016839
I wish we could use something like that but this is a (foreign) government agency. So privacy laws wouldn't allow us to use some mail service if the data is not in our servers.
>>52016426
Unless you're using that private Switzerland email then you have no right to judge
>>52017567
>trusting Switzerland
>not running your own email server
>>52009253
Outlook + Exchange
