Endgame edition 2: Electric Boogaloo
pic: hhkb with kana kyes from a nishio board
>Buyer's Guide:
http://pastebin.com/QJD7fSGU
>Where to Buy:
http://pastebin.com/8Yku80VL
>FAQs:
http://pastebin.com/M5w7QtKp
Old thread: >>51970731
>>51993872
damn thats some nice shit
except for the meme artisans
How many people spent extra on NKRO and use USB?
>>51993958
i used my nkro on my kul but one day the ps/2 stopped working and i went back to usb
i never used more than like 3 keys at once so it never mattered but i still liked the ps/2 adapter
I really hate my G710+
>>51994042
You should have listened to us.
>>51993958
Any decent firmware does NKRO, it shouldn't be something you pay extra for.
>>51994108
>>51994111
real thread here
>>51993784
Anyone here get into the TGR-Jane CE group buy?
Yo just dropping by to say that I contacted a Japanese seller on my local (European) Amazon, and he offered me to refund any custons/taxes extra if I should incur in any.
Looks like I'm about to drop 230€ on a blank caps white hhkb.
>>51994108
>>51994111
>>51994118
Nice. What model is that? What brand of switches?
How much to spend for the keyboard?
How much for the custom keycap? Which plastic?
What about the case?
>>51994201
>spending more than $30 on a keyboard
lmaoing at your life
Oh, neat. So, this thread prompted me to look up the vintage Mac keyboard that I'd read so much about. It led me to Matias, which is currently making a (more or less) reproduction with ALPS mechanical keyswitches.
I'd like to try one of these.
>>51994208
>2015
>contorting your body to suit a machine
>using shitty hardware to do so
Do you value your body and health at all?
>>51994097
I didn't know about you guys when I bought the damn thing. I'm gonna get myself a Quickfire Rapid with Blues soon, thoughts?
nth for clickety clack
>>51994250
>spend $20 on a machine to input text
>spend $200 on a machine to input text
which sounds more reasonable to you?
The $200 option gives you the added choice of colored keycaps, but you could simply take a gray keyboard and dye the caps whatever color you want if this is so important to you.
>>51994300
You're an idiot and you have no idea what you're talking about.
I sincerely hope you never develop RSI. The problem with RSI is you don't know if you're prone to it until after you have it, and once you have it it's hard to get rid of.
>>51994300
>spend $200 on a machine that you're possibly going to be interacting with for 8+ hours a day, using your delicate hands which can easily develop carpal tunnel/RSI/etc, of which one of good quality will last a lifetime
Doesn't sound unreasonable at all.
>>51994311
how does a mechanical keyboard benefit people with RSI?
>>51994324
Dude. Go fucking Google it. I'm not going to babysit you.
>>51994329
You're acting awfully defensive toward your $300 keyboard with no function keys
>2 /mkg/ threads
>>51994338
My $300 keyboard has function keys.
I'm not defensive. You're just lazy, uninformed, and will obviously stay uninformed thanks to your laziness.
>>51994355
>I'm not defensive.
>>you're wrong
>>it's not my job to educate you
>>do not play 20 questions with me
Gotta keep that fragile ego unshattered somehow I guess.
Enjoy your $300 memeboard.
>>51994391
Enjoy your ignorance. Again, I seriously hope you never develop RSI. If anyone in your family has any inflammation related illnesses, watch out.
>>51994423
That sounds like a threat.
>>51994438
You're threatened by your own body and habits.
>>51994292
>ibm model m
>owner lives in filth and shit cable management
sounds about right
>>51994588
>model M
?
>>51994588
you're just jealous because your anemic mechanical keyboard has no room to place a nice mug of coffee
>>51994597
oh sorry it's a "special snowflake variant ibm with 24 F keys because I can't be the same as 80% of reddit pls no steal"
>>51994600
>no room to place a nice mug of coffee
my 60% is in fact so small I can fit 12 cups on my desk
>>51994606
Yeah, faggot, it's a Model F, which is a terminal keyboard, because OP is a mongoloid.
Surely the *only* reason he has that is because it was easy to find a cast-off that nobody wanted.
>>51994614
>no insert/delete/home/up/down keys
wow, it's almost like you don't do anything more than shitpost on 4chan with your fancy boutique keyboard
>>51994643
jokes on you I'm a sysadmin and it works just fine
>mfw poorfags leave the home row to navigate
>>51994643
Some poorfag is haunting this thread.
I'm looking for a cheap ten-keyless without any gamer branding with keycaps that preferably look like >>51993794
In fact, I just want a nice tiny version of >>51993794.
>>51994724
I was going to suggest a Model M Space Saving, but I checked ebay and they're $100 - $580.
>>51994850
>>51994689
why do people keep using those ugly animal head keys for the Esc key?
Do they actually press down on it?
Do they even use these keyboards, or it is it literally all for show?
>>51994890
I personally don't, but it's not like you use esc more than a couple times a day anyway, is it?
hello what is the use of the ` on ansi keyboards?
I use it with the US international layout to type accented letters like èàìò, but does it have any use on a standard layout?
I mean there's ' already
is it retarded to use a mechanical keyboard with a laptop
>>51994968
no I do it most of the time
as a bonus you will trigger half of /g/
>>51993958
>Klobb
i just hope the keyboard is a camouflaged automatic weapon designed by Q.
>>51994968
it looks autistic
if you're using a decent laptop you don't even need an attachment keyboard
>>51995009
>if you're using a decent laptop you don't even need an attachment keyboard
if you use any laptop newer than a thinkpad t420, you NEED a keyboard.
>>51995016
if you've actually used a recent thinkpad keyboard, you would realize they're quite a joy to use, even with a chiclet formfactor
>>51995048
so this is what the world has come to.
who /masterrace/ here?
>>51995233
>no function keys
don't kid yourself
>dem caps
>being poorer than RMS
>being poorer than Stallman
>>51994850
I'm glad someone else appreciates JIS layouts here.
>tfw tracking says delivery today
oh boy can't wait to see what 319€ gets you
>>51995591
It is the only usable version of the HHKB.
Well unless your only use of the PC is a facebook machine.
>>51996019
>hey world look at me I can code fizzbuzz in python!
come back when you can build a computational matrix in C with cost o(n logn)
>>51995998
Holy shit, die in a fire.
>>51993580
Well that's a fucking bummer, I've seen a variant with green switches but never any for sale.
So I guess the poker 3 with greens is my best bet at a 60% with greens?
If so does anyone know where I can find that keyboard in grey and not entirely white?
It's either that or the FC660 with blues but I kind of want greens
>>51995707
How'd you get Terminal like that?
>>51996110
Alright guess I'm giving up on finding a keyboard i like with greens, too fucking hard or way more expensive than planned.
Between the noppoo choc mini with blues, fc660 with blues, or the filco m2 tenkeyless with blues.
Kind of leaning towards the fc660, but I'd like to hear opinions if any of you have any of those boards.
I want a RGB backlit, TKL, mx cherry brown keyboard, what are my options?
>>51996811
Why are we infested with people like this
>mfw I'm typing on this very HP membrane keyboard and it feels like 80% of a legit topre board
i-is it a meme, after all?
>>51994118
>>51994111
>>51994108
What keycaps?
>>51996877
They won't go to /wsr/, they think they're actually helping "discussion" when they're just fishing for opinions.
>>51994205
>>51998065
KMAC 2 w/ hard-to-find gateron keycaps
>>51997244
That's exactly why I can't understand c the Topre nonsense:
It feels exactly like the HP keyboard(s) I used for nearly ten years.
... That's not a slight: excellent keyboard and I paid more to buy the exact same model when my original finally quit on me. I just can't see why anyone would pay Topre money.
>>51996811
k65 rgb. use google next time
>>51998044
What model, anon?
Got my first mechanical keyboard today, AMA.
>pic very much related.
>>51998487
Quickfire rapid with vortex pbt doubleshots
>>51998515
What colour underpants are you wearing?
>>51994925
Spoken like someone who doesn't use vim.
>>51998679
>tfw no keyboard with a dip switch to map caps lock to esc
>have to map using software
Keyboard makers are a bunch of plebs.
>>51998661
I don't wear underwear, never.
Next question.
>>51998515
is that Rapid or XT?
Whats the best kb I can get for <80 bucks?
>>51999133
XT with MX Blue.
>>51998515
Why didn't you buy a ducky?
>>51999225
I'm torn between the XT and the Rapid-I.
I like the TKL more, just not sure if I'm ready to give up the numpad yet.
>>51999300
why do you need 20 buttons on a mouse
>Ordered Lolita Spyder with black switches
>Arrives with blue switches
>Returned and refunded
>Order TWO Lolita Spyders with black switches, because surely one will be right this time (after contacting the seller on Amazon)
>Both red switches. They don't even offer red switches on Amazon.
>Returning both tomorrow
I don't think I'm cut out for this, /mkg/.
>>51999300
Not him but Ducky wouldn't happen to make a keyboard with green switches would they?
>>51999300
I could not find any with Italian layout.
>>51999322
Numpad is useful, I would get the XT over the Rapid-I any day.
>>51999383
>I could not find any with Italian layout.
I'm italian and use US intl layout on an ISO keyboard.
It's just superior.
>>51999300
I did !!
>>51999341
surprisingly I play games (mmos) where I actually have every single button on the side 1-12 and a shift variant of each of them bound and used.
>>51999414
Sorry to break it out for you but writing in Italian using a non Italian keyboard is retarded.
How do you write this shit: àèéìòù?
>>51999457
>I play games
How is this?
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00G505M4S/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1450803284&sr=1-1&pi=SX200_QL40&keywords=rosewill+rk-6000&dpPl=1&dpID=411U9YwEodL&ref=plSrch
I'm really only looking at functionality, so will this get the job done?
>>51999471
with ' and then the vowel.
In fact it's better since I don't even need shift.
use ` for èìòùà
use ' for áéíóú
>>51999490
Get http://www.amazon.com/Rosewill-Mechanical-Keyboard-Switches-RK-9000V2 instead.
>>51999346
That's what happens when you order cheap chink boards. Shit goes wrong.
>>51999577
Well whats the cheapest board that gets the job done and isn't a sack of shit?
>>51999577
Finding black switches in the UK's a pain in the ass. The popular ones only come in blue or brown, and fuck blue and brown.
Lolitas themselves are pretty decent.
>>51999611
TKL? Quickfire Rapid.
>>51999624
Blacks are good for POS systems. I don't know why you'd want to have a personal keyboard with blacks.
>>51995382
>>51995475
Damn, I'm so jealous. I wish I had a nice keyboard...
>TFW no descent looking mech board in my country aftermarket.
>>51999300
I did though.
>>51999493
Sorry but it's still retarded as fuck and unpractical.
For è i just press è.
>>51993958
How many people have a shitty mobo from 10 years ago that actually has ps/2?
>>51999821
You say that like you've never had to chord before.
>>51999353
Ducky One
>>51999903
You sound like a retard who is trying way too hard to convince himself that writing in a certain language using a different keyboard layout is not only a good idea but might even be better.
>>52000019
Ah yes, calling an anonymous poster a retard instead of addressing the point. Nicely dodged.
So glad to see group buys like this one fail.
>Only compatible with first party Topre
>No quality improvement over stock caps on those boards
>Ugly color scheme
>Retarded legend sizes and placement
>Designed by the meme master
>200 orders minimum
>$140 + shipping
>It's just for the keycaps
What were they thinking?!
>>52000224
I don't understand why they didn't just stick with the original skull squadron design.
>>52000224
Yeah agreed
that was dogshit ugly and there was a lot of talk about how it was the consumer's "responsibility" to buy it if they wanted more topre keycap sets. No one even wanted that set; people were asking for another one and then suddenly the organizer just goes "nope, we're running the ugliest caps on earth".
fuck 'em.
>>52000308
>the organizer
Well, it was Topre that decided to go with that. Matt3o had multiple suggestions for them.
>>52000224
Blame Topre. They had really specific requirements for what Matt3o could and couldn't do.
>>51995475
>>51995382
>using a nice keyboard with a kid's toy laptop
>>52000347
>>52000379
He could have tried to stick to the original skull squadron design.
>Use more interesting font, they were making custom legends anyway
>Ditch the icon modifiers, too modern looking
>Don't make the legends on the alphas look so tiny
>Stick with black legends, since it's all Topre seems capable of
>Dark gray function row
>Fully yellow row below that
>Ditch the dark color on the modifiers
>Dark gray arrow keys
Wow, that was hard. These changes don't even create any new technical difficulties.
The design they picked tries to be both modern and retro at the same time and loses both its charm and elegance in the process.
Where can I get japanese keycaps for my weeaboo needs?
Hi /g/
I'm thinking of getting me a WASDv2 105 keys keyboard with MX Cherry Brown (0.2mm travel reduction) for Christmas.
My question is: What icon would you guys pick for the OS key ?
I was thinking of a desktop icon, but really I don't know.
I will use it for both work and games, pic related is the template i'll use.
>>52000679
Get the barebones. And ANSI.
>>52000698
Why? I picked WASD because how easy it is to custom both the legends, fonts and color of the keys.
There is no point in buying the barebones in that aspect
>tfw go muh model m in the mail
Feels gud man. Fuck this thing is heavy compared to my k70 that I'd been using for about a year and a half.
I wish I saw the coiled cable more often.
>>52000731
The caps are thin and pad printed.
>>52000679
A lozenge ◊ is the most generic choice that's actually in use.
>>51999671
Because after trying them all, I can safely say blacks are the sexiest switches.
I'm still shocked blues are so popular, the noise was driving me insane.
>>52000562
You literally don't understand.
>Use more interesting font, they were making custom legends anyway
Topre had font requirements. They wouldn't let him use just anything
>Ditch the icon modifiers, too modern looking
Topre requirements
>Don't make the legends on the alphas look so tiny
Do you really need me to go through the whole list?
Basically this started out as "oh hey Matt3o lets make something cool together" and turned into Topre turning down everything.
>>52000612
Not even the Japanese use Kana input.
Get a keyboard with the Japanese layout if you want to fuck yourself over.
>>52000751
Ok, but what does that mean ? is it poor quality ? Where would I get my keys printed if not by WASD ?
>>52000763
I like the idea, i'll think about it
>51999999
>52000000
>>52000804
>Ok, but what does that mean ? is it poor quality ?
Yes. In 4chan terms, they're shit.
>Where would I get my keys printed if not by WASD ?
A completely custom set? You don't. Only WASD offers this, as it would be prohibitively expensive with an actually durable legend process.
>>52000778
Then turn them down back, what's the problem? Oh right, he gave up his integrity as a designer to be the first to release a set like this.
>>52000828
>>51999999
>>52000000
>>52000850
Hey, you wanted to know what they were thinking, I'm just telling you how it was.
Help me out here. I've gone through a bunch of different "help pick your keyboard" forms and I keep getting brought back to this keyboard:
Deck Francium White LED Backlit PBT Mechanical Keyboard (Brown Cherry MX)
https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=689
It looks like it's everything I want, 10-keyless, backlit, brown cherry mx. But the snob in me maybe wants something a little fancier looking. The chassis could be a bit more colorful, and the font on those keys is just absolutely terrible.
I'm willing to forgive the colors though; I really want to pull the trigger on this keyboard. However I want to get different keycaps that still work with the backlighting. If it's possible I think I'd really like the spherical dome shape too. Would you recommend "Deck" brand keyboards? Are those keycaps pretty interchangeable?
This is my first mechanical keyboard. I'm coming off of a hand-me-down Razer tarantula whose "E" key is finally dying. I hate typing on this thing too.
>>52000850
>Oh right, he gave up his integrity as a designer to be the first to release a set like this.
What the hell are you on about?
>>52000834
Well, the point of this purchase, beside the mechanics switch, is to get a fully customized keyboard. I didn't expect to get god tier quality in that aspect anyway. As long as I get a pleasant looking mechanical keyboard, i'll be satisfied.
Thanks for the warning tho.
>>52000922
Did you consider the Ducky Shine 3?
>>51994290
Its a decent choice. If you look in the buyer's guide, its considered a decent "no frills" kind of choice.
i've been using a 15 year old dell keyboard and a labtec mouse i took from a school computer room. are razer keyboards/mice shit? i just want to find a mechanical keyboard with a couple macro keys less than 100
>>52000922
>The chassis could be a bit more colorful
Gay.
>the font on those keys is just absolutely terrible
So replace them.
>keycaps that still work with the backlighting
Vortex PBT+POM doubleshots.
>If it's possible I think I'd really like the spherical dome shape too.
It ain't.
>Are those keycaps pretty interchangeable?
ANSI125 is pretty standard.
>>52000961
>read first post
>>52000944
>a fully customized keyboard
You're getting a customised keycap set, not a keyboard. A customised keyboard would involve picking out different PCBs, cases, etc.
>>51996019
WTF? The Japanese layout is the only one with an arrow cluster?
I have no idea what the appeal of HHKB is. If you don't have arrows that you can hit without moving from home row (e.g. Kinesis Advantage), I don't know how you could live without an arrow cluster.
>>52000958
Anyone have comments on the newer iteration of this board, the Rapid-i? Just wondering as I can find the Rapid-i at a local place for a good price with Cherry Blues but not the original Rapid.
>>52001083
Yeah. And the ridiculous space bar is a no-go for me.
>>51994681
wheer can i buy these english japense keycaps?
>>51999300
They're ugly
>>51994290
>>51998595
>>51999671
Is the "Storm" CM Quickfire Rapid any different? The buying guides don't have "Storm" in any of them but that's the only on that I can find.
>>52001572
The storm is the tenkeyless version. The storms full sized brother is the quickfire XT
I want an hhkb
You want an hhkb
Everybody wants an hhkb
>>52000074
Nigger, what you are saying is that having to press 2 keys is better than pressing 1 to obtain the same symbol.
You are so much retarded that you can't even acknowledge your own retardation.
>>51993872
>backspace key the wrong profile
Triggered
I'd get this, but I feel like I'd be missing the point.
>>52001819
>WASD
I threw up a little in my mouth.
>>52001843
what's wrong with wasd?
>>52001878
>Thin ABS
>Cheap printing
>Easily fades/shines
>Very expensive for this type of quality
You'll use it for 3 months and the lettering will strip off or at least shine to the point where you'd think you've been using it for years.
>>52001572
Cm storm is cm's gaming brand. All their keyboards are "cm storm". It doesn't mean anything.
>>52001903
alright, how do I go about picking a keyboard then?
Do I just buy one of those established ricer boards and then order custom keycaps to my liking?
>>52001926
WASD keyboards are fine, the keycaps are just shit. Go ahead and buy the barebones board if you want and get non shit keycaps.
Any options for full size backlit with cherry mx greens other than ducky one? Not having a lot of luck finding much of anything that even has greens to start with..
Is the kinesis advantage a meme keyboard?
>>51993872
How do the keys on the hhkb work?
I only see a ctrl and alt key
where's the meta key?
also, how do people deal with no arrow keys?
>>52001758
Sure I want one. But will I spend the price of a noppoo + used thinkpad + small used audio speaker for ONE keyboard that have achieved a meme status? No.
>>52002152
>being poor
Ducky or Code?
>>52002162
I'm a student you dip. And I'm not autistic to the point of spending all my savings buying a meme keyboard while I can use it in a more reasonable way.
Now, I know that you're meming, but I read once that rich people became rich because they were skilled at saving money, not spending it.
>>52002116
they huff their own anuses and bask in the glory of their consumerist minimalism which helps them transcend any need for puerile arrow keys
>>52002037
enter on the other side of the space bar endless smashing of the wrong fucking key
>>52002206
ducky anything
>>52002224
>all my savings
Wait one more week when you have the money too?
Or if you dont have a part time job fucking get one you lazy shit.
College or not
>>52002452
Part time ain't so much income.
>Implying I a willing to get cucked into by buying an over expensive keyboard when I can have instead bunch of decent stuff.
Stfu shill
>>52002617
Not the same guy, but its one of those things if you're going to be using it for years and years when difference between a crappy keyboard and a real solid mech is usually ~$100 you might as well save up. You'll probably going to regret it down the road when you do have more money and you wasted the money on the crappy board because you were impatient. Quality > quantity
>>52002711
is there really any point when the rate of diminishing returns is ridiculously low?
you could buy 6 model m's for the same price as one of your hhkb memeboards.
>>52002804
Just because returns are diminishing doesn't mean they aren't worth it.
>>52002711
>>52001758 (other anon)
>I want an hhkb
>You want an hhkb
>Everybody wants an hhkb
>>52002152 (my reply)
>>>52001758
>Sure I want one. But will I spend the price of a noppoo + used thinkpad + small used audio speaker for ONE keyboard that have achieved a meme status? No.
Next time, re-read the context.
>>51999879
they still make motherboard with ps/2 in this current year you retarded dumbass
>>52002617
It's more income then not having any isnt it faggot?
Get 10 hours a week at $100.thats an extra 100 a week you get.thats not even exerting your self or taking time away from your homework.
>>52002843
Are they worth getting? NAH
they'e shitty specs
>>52002826
>buy $500 watch
>literally functionally identical to a $16,000 patek philippe
>b-but it's worth it!!`
>>52002851
Grammar, you angry cretin.
Also, why do you keep shilling this over expensive board? Stop embarrassing yourself, you idiot.
>>52002868
I thought people still liked them because they have a higher poll rate than USB based keyboards, and this is considered beneficial for vidya.
>>52002884
Almost every keyboard functions the same. We're not trying to increase our gaming performance or chase some audiophilesque bullshit. We just like to have things that look and feel nice.
>>52002868
80 percent of all motherboards have them,and if anything your is shit for not having it cause you manufacture is to cheap to skimp out on 5 cents
>>51994681
>>51994681
This would looks so good if he could find another tab key for the key under backspace and ditched the novelty caps
>>52002959
Yeah, the shield on the back with most cases will look weird without it, too.
>>52002898
>complains about not having money but wants 100% grade A mech.
>Refuses to get a part time job working even a minimum of 10 hours a week.
>board
Im not even talking about the board,i didnt even look.Im talking about your retardation of wanting a quality board but cheap.Do day labor and get 100 bucks.IDGAF
You're not entitled to having quality expensive stuff.And saying "MUH SAVINGS" makes you sound retarded.
If your literal savings is the cost of a mech,you should change your priorities
>>52002906
There is no reason to have PS/2 unless you're a hipster faggot.In no game will you press more then 6 keys at a time, nor will you type fast enough that it would ghost 6 keys.
>>52002985
The problem is that the Nissho KB106DE they were probably harvested from is only JIS and doesn't have a lot of the keys that are filled in those creative ways.
>>52003075
He can harvest a tab key from another one (that would be prohibitively expensive though, I guess, but topre fags already do crazy shit) and I'm sure a 1x key in top row profile and a couple in bottom row profile are available at least
>>52003107
The funny thing is that the "backspace" key is actually `~ and backspace is the one over enter in the hhkb.
Unless he remapped them on the OS.
>>52003107
He could just get a JIS HHKB and it would be gold, if he actually had money to burn.
>>52003186
The JIS HHKB is not at all compatible with those keys if that's what you're implying
it has like a 2x spacebar and like ten 1x keys on the bottom row, plus a split shift
>>51999322
>not sure if I'm ready to give up the numpad yet.
Here is a handy flowchart to help you decide if you need a numeric keypad:+--------------+
| Are you an |
| accountant? |----Yes---> YES
+--------------+
|
No
|
V
NO
>>52003215
Most of the keyboard would be much better off, the bottom row is the problem.
>>52003274
The JIS HHKB also has non-standard staggering to make up for the triple split shift, which means neither shift would work
>>52003264
Or if Yes get a TKL and buy a numpad.
>>51999383
buy a ducky & italian keycaps, change language on computer. it's worth.
the amount of rationalization ITT is astounding
all so you can convince yourself to buy a non-ANSI meme keyboard especially when you don't even speak japanese
>i didn't need a numpad anyway
>i didn't need function keys anyway
>i didn't need ~ and ` in the proper place anyway
>w-why would you ever need arrow keys?
>are you a pleb?
>>52003505
why buy artisan caps when they have no use for a keyboard
why buy colourful keycaps when all i need is the stock one
why buy different switches when rubberdome/scissorswitch is standard
>>52003696
There's nothing wrong with with blowing hundreds of dollars on keyboards if you can afford it.
What I take issue with is neets saving up for months and blowing all their savings on a single keyboard just because they fell for the mechanical keyboard meme.
>>52003761
It's their own money why does it matter what others do.
>>52003761
>There's nothing wrong with with blowing hundreds of dollars on keyboards if you can afford it.
There are a fair number of people in these threads who are probably pretty rich. Theres a keyboard above worth over $800 all together. No NEET could save that much money just on a keyboard.
>>52003696
>why buy artisan caps when they have no use for a keyboard
Correct, anyone who fucks up the look of their keyboard with those godawful things is a moron
Can anyone recommend a stiffer sturdy spacebar?
Every spacebar i've used in the past always breaks in the middle of it.
already tried vortex pbt doubleshot and ducky stock caps
>>52004041
This honestly. Artisans are way, WAY overpriced and even if they weren't I wouldn't buy them. They look like shit.
>>52002884
yeah at that point you're buying a status symbol, purely for the branding.
>>52004102
it sounds like you need a metal spacebar so it can protect itself from your retard strength
>>52004120
it's not a status symbol if nobody but watch nerds know what brand it is
people only know rolex, if it's not rolex, it's not a status symbol
>>52004164
Every aluminum bar i've seen is from china,and id rather not have to deal with customs+ china build quality
>>52004167
Getting recognition from your peers is more important than impressing the pleb.
You have 5 minutes to explain me why this keyboard is NOT ricer shit.
>>52004324
the only people who you're gonna impress is disgusting old men
i guess it's fine if you're into that sort of thing
H-how did I do for my first mech? Kailh blue switches for the curious
>>52004334
It has arrow keys and numpad
>>52004368
ugly as fuck
>>52004334
But it is
>>52004368
do people actually like this gamer ricer aesthetic?
i always thought it was a feedback loop where designers try to make their shit look "cooler" and gaymer 15 year olds buy it regardless of looks because they don't know any better.
>>52004424
>But it is
And yet /mkg/ is filled with "muh ducky shine so good xd" posts.
>>52004581
It's ricer shit, but the only thing which makes it that is the flashy lights. Ducky boards have good build quality and don't look fuck ugly, and it won't even look like a ricer board if you turn the lights off.
Thus, ducky boards qualify as ricer, but not as shit. They're actually good keyboards with fancy backlighting.
>>51994250
>>51994311
Not the guy you're answering to. I've never read (nor found) a scientific publication that showed a link between mechanical keyboards and RSI prevention. Can you please provide me some so I can change my current view about it ?
(which is that keyboards over $30 are a scam. not intending to offend you)
>>52004722
What's the most non-ricer shit quality mechanical keyboard with mx clear or whites? 80-100%.
>inb4 topre
I'm really tempted to give into the HiPro meme and transplant my 55kg switches into one.
>but why not just put the HiPro keycaps on your TKL?
Because part of me misses having a number pad, even though I've gotten fairly used to the integrated numpad™ for inputting silly alt codes.
>>52001788
How do you do a copy command? How do you make a capital letter?
>>52004792
Not him, but a MK won't prevent RSI.
MKs are a luxury item. A really nice luxury item which you can customize, feel really nice and all that, but a luxury item which won't do whole lot more than a 30 dollar keyboard (apart from NKRO, something which membrane keyboards have trouble with).
>>52004804
A Ducky Zero (I think the ducky zero has a variation in white switches if you can find that anywhere) or perhaps a KUL.
Or a ducky shine 4 with the lights turned off (I've opened this thing myself and the build quality is superb).
>>52004925
Why shine 4 over 5?
>>52004951
The 5 doesn't come with clears.
Though judging by the specs sheet, it has an even better build quality.
If you're looking for those new nature white switches that cherry came up with, then the Shine 5 is what you're looking for.
>>52004897
>How do you make a capital letter?
CAPSLOCK ALWAYS ON
>>52004976
>The 5 doesn't come with clears.
Fuck.
And I wanted to try clears.
>If you're looking for those new nature white switches
I've been reading about nature white for some time. But those switches are new and Ducky-exclusives so it's kind of risky to order a keyboard with them.
>>52005112
They're just 55cN linears.
>>51994438
What's he gonna do, track down your ip and fuck up your wrists with his magical powers?
>>52004581
Ducky is pretty shit, Filcos off amazon should be recommended in their place.
>>52005112
Get a Shine 4.
The RGB lighting of the Shine 5 does look gorgeous, but the Shine 4 looks beautiful already.
And it comes with clears.
>>52006080
>Ducky is pretty shit
said no-one ever
I have a Logitech G910, Not too great I guess but i like it.
Are Unicomp's clicky keyboards worth it?
I have a shine 4 with clear+browns
seems nice so far
way different than blue/greens
>>52006276
nice to type on but the plastic case feels cheap and flimsy
Thinking of building my own mech keybord using the phantom pcb, is it a good idea? Have any done it here?
>>52006264
>gamer ricer shit
literal pussy repellant
Everything's here! Unfortunately, I'm borrowing a friend's soldering iron, so I'll have to wait until after the holidays to wire it up.
>>52006529
This picture came out blurry but it should give a nice idea of the look when it's done.
>>52006518
Well i have a boyfriend so no trouble there.
>>52006529
I'm interested to see your results.
>>52004925
>Not him, but a MK won't prevent RSI.
False.
15 years ago, I had terrible tendinitis in both wrists, largely from using shitty keyboards like the Microsoft "Natural" (most unnatural thing ever made).
Mechanical keyboards give you 100% consistent key force. Compare with the MS Natural, which used sliding plastic posts. If you hit a fat key (e.g. shift) slightly off center of the post, you suddenly have a huge increase in resistance, thanks to friction.
The single biggest impact from any change I made was in switching to a Kinesis Classic keyboard. Aside from the shitty function keys, it's all Cherry MX with separate keywells.
My 2006 Macbook was the first non-mechanical keyboard that didn't bring on agony almost immediately. To this day, if I sit at a coworker or family member's computer with some shitty OEM keyboard, my wrists will be on fire within a few minutes.
>>52006654
That's not prevention, that's alleviating the symptoms.
>>52006264
>ARX DOCK RELEASE
do people really enjoy this faux-space marines halo video gamey look?
>>52006674
>should I hit myself in the head with a hammer?
>well, when I stopped hitting myself in the head with a hammer my migraines stopped
>THAT'S NOT PREVENTION, THAT'S ALLEVIATING THE SYMPTOMS
It's not alleviating the symptoms, idiot, it's curing the tendinitis. It's a chronic inflammation issue, and a good mechanical keyboard was the most important part of my recovery.
Look, I don't care AT ALL whether or not you buy a mechanical keyboard. I don't care if you jump off a bridge and die tonight. But I highly recommend that everyone use a quality mechanical keyboard. It's ridiculous that in 2015 we're still contorting our bodies to interface with computers.
I acquired a white pok3r with mx clears. What keycap set should I get?
>>52006654
Interesting.
Though I'd still argue that you can get a non-mechanical keyboard which is just as good in terms of ergonomics as a mechanical one.
Not that I'd ever argue against getting a mechanical keyboard, I'd probably have trouble going back to a non-mechanical long-term by now.
>>52006744
I shouldn't even be addressing a post with an analogy that bad, but I meant that it didn't prevent you from getting RSI in the first place.
>>52006744
This post,in its entirety
>placebo
>>52006803
>Though I'd still argue that you can get a non-mechanical keyboard which is just as good in terms of ergonomics as a mechanical one.
Like what?
Anyway, ergonomics are highly personal. I like the Kinesis Classic/Advantage with widely spaced keywells. Others like split/pivoting keyboards. Others like the weird vertical ones.
>>52006838
>I shouldn't even be addressing a post with an analogy that bad
That analogy is perfectly apt.
> but I meant that it didn't prevent you from getting RSI in the first place.
Why WOULDN'T something which ends tendinitis would likely help prevent it from occurring in the first place?
Also, I never developed RSI in all the years of working for hours on an IBM Model M. Then I went to shitty membrane keyboards, then I hit rock bottom with the MS "Natural" in hopes that it would alleviate the tendinitis that was starting. Then things started getting better with the first Kinesis split keyboard, then they got awesome with the Kinesis Classic.
It's like I always tell people: the problem is, you don't know if you're prone to RSI issues until after you've already developed them. And once you've developed them, it's a long road to recovery.
Why WOULDN'T you invest $100 in a decent mechanical keyboard? It will last through several PC builds. It's probably the cheapest thing you'll ever buy for your computer, in the long run.
Same goes for chairs. The number of people I see with shitty posture, bragging about how they're fine in their $20 Office Max chair is astounding.
>>52006914
Nope. What's in it for you to be so dead-set against the ergonomic benefits of a good keyboard?
