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>>51987968
first for csgog
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>>51987968
I remember there was a video teaches how to wear the IEM it was a woman demonstrating and she tilts her head on to one side and gently pulls the earlobe down and slowly insert that giant IEM like in OP's pic into her beautiful deep dark ear canal and it gave me an erection I want to watch that video again.
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what's wrong with etymotic?
I remember wanting a pair a few years ago but I settled on some xiaomi bullshit for cheap instead
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>>51987968
garbage op

>>51988745
nothing
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>>51988756
something something rajeet
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just received Piston 3. coming from piston 2. and also ordered piston hybrid/4 from china

the piston 3 sound, look and feel very very good for the price..

only the sub bass is lacking
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>Requesting purchase advice:
http://pastebin.com/hjHkKDyM

>/g/ wiki headphone FAQ:
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php?title=Headphones

>Previous thread:
>>51960402
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>>51989421
>MDR-V6/7506
what's the difference?
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>>51990011
Pretty much identical except the colors and the model numbers.
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Anybody know a good pair of earbuds that have great, headphone level sound?

I don't mind splurging $150+ for a headphone but I want earbuds with good audio fidelity too
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>Budget
50$ (3500Rub)
>Location
Russia
>Source
PC
>Preferred type of headphone
Full-sized
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Comfort/Sound quality balance
>Preferred tonal balance
Balanced
>Preferred music
I listen to lot of genres so I guess it doesn't matter?
>Past headphones
Only had (and still have) Koss PortaPros
Great sound, good bass, but plain earpads feel weird
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>>51991676
Takstar hi 2050
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Budget - 350$

Location - missouri

Source - whatever soundcard the audiophiles on thr other thread send me to, occasionally a galaxy s5

Preferred type of headphone- headphones

Open or closed- definitely closed

Comfort level - fairly comfy, as long as it doesnt cutoff my ears it should be fine

Preferred tonal balance: warm, but not sacrificing too much clarity

Preferred music: a7x, metallica, slayer, pantera, slipknot, hollywood undead, the offspring, zz top, rush, van halen, pink floyd and megadeth to name a few favorites

Past headphones- razer blacksharks: real durable, nice audio balance, was a gift
Siberia v3:nice bass, gift, was returned when enough money for a new pair of headphones came about
Skullcandy crushers:comfy as fuck, not too terribly expensive, sounds good
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>Budget
$150. Could do $200 at most.

>Location
New York City

>Source
Laptop and Smartphone

>Preferred type of headphone
Could do earbuds. Over ear preferable.

>Open or closed
Closed. I need to drown out the yellings.

>Comfort level
Very comfortable. I intend to play games and listen to music 5, 6 hours straight

>Preferred tonal balance
Something that can do videogame music and classical will be nice. Bass is good but I am not a huge bass fan.

>Preferred music
Classical and bombastic stuff like rock if need be

>Past headphones
Clunky and cheap $20 Sony over ear. $9 Panasonic earbuds
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I'm going to buy link related: https://www.massdrop.com/buy/beyerdynamic-dt990-600-ohm-all-black-everything
what amp/dac should I get
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>>51991676
save another 50 bucks and get oppo pm-3

>>51992089
dt770

>>51992195
if youre poor get e10k, if you have more money, o2+odac, or just get the O2 amp itself cause dacs are sperg shit
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Not looking for buying advice, I already know what kind of ciem I am getting. Noble K10. I just really don't know shit about audio and was wondering how to drive them. I am assuming I don't need a pre-amp for these but what about a dac?
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>>51992262
Any good deals on dt770? Is it safe buying those $150 deals on Google?
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Posted this in the last thread and this was the advice I got. Just wanted to gather more intel before making a purchase.

>Budget
sub $80
>Location
US
>Source
Phone while cycling
>Preferred type of headphone
IEM
>Comfort level
Would like them to be comfortable but I can always buy comply foams if they're not.
>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral
>Preferred music
Weeb shit. Orchestra. Symphony. Avante-garde at times.
>Past headphones
Sony MDRZX100 ZX (or a similar model): too much bass. Got sweaty quickly. Uncomfortable when not around my ears.
Sony PSVita In-ear Headset: Sounds great for sub $20 IEMs. Has to be replaced within half a year. Cables are really cheap and are prone to stretching or maintaining a certain curve.
Sony MDR-V6: Fantastic for home use. Neutral tone. Feels sturdy. Unusable as a portable set because of thick, long, and heavy cables. Pleather is literally the devil's ass and had to replace with velour pads.
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are etymotics overrated? If I already had dt880s are they even worth buying?
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>>51992024
Your past headphones are shit, sorry.
Check out the Sennheiser hd600 (it will need an amp), Hifiman he400i, 400s or just get the memelio x2
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Ableton YouTube tutorials
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>>51992024

HD600/650 on sale and an O2 amp. Done. X2 doesn't have the clarity of HD600, and HE400i is just out of your price range, otherwise I'd recommend that.
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>>51993635
>definitely closed
>recommends open headphones
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Is the HE-560 worth it at the $690 sale price? Well, more specifically, is there anyone here that has owned Hifiman planars for more than a year?

Really tempted to get one, but Hifiman's reputation for sketchy QC and build quality makes me hesitate to spend that much money if it's not going to last.
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>>51993664
Unless you bring full sized open headphones outside and throw them around, they will be fine.
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>>51989910
I was thinking about the hybrid. Where did you order them from?
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Just ordered Sunrise Xcite IEMs for 40$.
Are they alright?
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>>51993664
I hear they aren't enough of an improvement to the HE-400i to justify the cost and mostly sound the same.
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>>51993620
>(it will need an amp)
Please stop lying.
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Headphones blow, speaker master race
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>>51994278
>poorfag cant own both
wew lad
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>>51994346
literally what is the point of owning headphones when you have good speakers?
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How are the mids on dt990 compared to k701?
I might have spoiled myself with the akg mids.
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Any chance the SHP9500's price will come back down or nah?
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>>51994361
You are sitting in Skype with your mates and they hear themselves because you have your speakers on and not headphones.

Some prefer the headphone feeling

When you want privacy

Speakers doesn't work very well out in public

Ect
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>>51994648
Consider answering me when you actually have good speakers.
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>>51994659
>>51994361
lol
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>>51992352
They're IEMs, so they have extremely low impedance and are very easy to drive. The issue is that they're extremely sensitive. What your source going to be?
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can i get the buy advice template
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>>51994756
http://pastebin.com/hjHkKDyM
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>>51994263
You ever listened to them with and without an amp faggot?
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>>51994849
Yes.
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>>51994857
You don't need to lie on the internet bby.
Me and my friend blind tested them with and without an amp and it was pretty easy to tell the difference
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>>51994878
>"you don't need to lie on the internet"
>proceeds to lie
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>Budget
Up to $100

>Location
Australia

>Source
Smartphone

>Preferred type of headphone
Earbuds. Prefer durability over quality

>Open or closed
Either is fine, closed might be nice

>Comfort level
Must be able to move around while wearing

>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral

>Preferred music
Orchestrated, weebshit and games

>Past headphones
Apple earbuds, though my primary headphones are Sennheiser HD 518
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>>51994648
>he fell for the DT770 meme
Nice.
Now just update your music.
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>>51995177
>post ends in 77
DT770 confirmed best headphone of all time
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How does /hpg/ rate Audio Technica ATH-WS77 headphones? I kind of wanted m40x's but I got these as a christmas present, how do they compare?
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>>51995793
>Audio-Technica ATH-WS77 Solid Bass Over-Ear Headphones

I disregard anything that has "SUPER BASS" or "EXTRA BASS" or whatever in the product's name
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>>51995867
>being this autistic
>implying these arent the bet headphones for bass
wew lad
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>>51996023
>literally just subwoofers over your ears
do only niggers buy these?
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>>51996039
no i just want something for bass to complement my k702, k340, k553 pro and ie 80
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>>51996023
to me the selling point of mdr-xb's aren't the fucking bass

it's that goddamn infinite comfort literally giant pillows on your ears
i've never ever felt something so delightful in my life
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>>51996091
that too, to bad sony canned them and replaced the 1000 and 700 with shitty, overpriced beats competitors.
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>>51996062
Whoa you're me.
I can't stop loving all my AKG headphones but I have a pair of DT770 for fat bass.
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I'm looking to buy some sen momentum 2.0s, but some fag a week ago said they're meme headphones. Now I'm not sure, are they not worth it? Do you guys know any alternatives? I want something that works with phones and looks good like momentums
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>>51996117
If you want style cans then Beats are good enough for you.
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>>51996113
>you'll never be this happy
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>>51996134
I might not, but my overwhelming sense of consumerism and purchasing habits can drown out my imagination and make me believe I am, sometimes.
Let's stay on topic though.
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>>51996133
No I don't want beats you dumb faggot, but I'm not an autistic neckbeard who wears some fugly headphone out in the open for people to laugh at
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>>51996166
in a thread this dead there's no point staying on topic

>>51996206
beats are just about the only pair of headphones normies won't laugh at you at
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so /hpg/ how accurate is this now?
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>>51996232
Not at all. Wew at that EQ.
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>>51996216
>beats are just about the only pair of headphones normies won't laugh at you at


>implying

I've seen momentums turn head and gain praises and honestly it's pretty good looking. I just wanna know if there are others
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>>51996292
PortaPros are sexy
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How's the DT 990? Only seeing DT 770 here.
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What's the best filetype for storing music hpg?
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>>51996292
>I've seen momentums turn head
yeah to laugh at you, step it up senpai
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>>51996317
FLAC
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>>51996317
.wav
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>>51996317
Flac

Then you convert them to 320 mp3 or 128 Opus
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>Budget
$150ish, maybe more, maybe less

>Location
Japan (near Kyoto and Osaka)

>Source
Vinyl records, laptop

I bought this Ion record player with built-in speakers because I didn't want to spend money on an amp and speakers, but then I realized headphones were an option (I didn't even know headphone amps were a thing). The record player has a headphone output, but I'm wondering if I should get a headphone amp, or just get decent headphones (I'm using Apple earbuds at the moment; I'm not really picky or an audiophile), or if I should get a different record player altogether and get an amp and headphones to go with it.

>Preferred type of headphone
Over ear I guess.

>Open or closed
Don't care

>Comfort level
Comfort would be nice. Something that wouldn't fall off my head and get broked would be even better.

>Preferred tonal balance
I d-don't know what this means :(

>Preferred music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZJkpRyxxX0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6gTf9EyuFM


>Past headphones
Various earbuds, some kinda Sennheiser headphones that I bought cheap used from my brother
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>>51996316
meme phones, the treble hurts my ear so bad
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>>51996321
>having this low of self confidence
>having this low of self esteem

Enjoy your permavirginity
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>>51996384
wat
>>51996351
open or closed is a big difference.
If you're going to be near other people I'd recommend getting closed, if you're going to use it alone at your home, open is better in almost all cases
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>>51996317
FLAC. Losslessly compressed, really good support from media players and devices, free as in free beer.
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>>51996023
I had those and they were like heaven on my ears, just a bit hot in summer but so fucking comfy. Are they still around or discontinued?
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>>51996425
see>>51996105
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HD598 or K702 for spatious, wide, detailed sound and instruments' separation?
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>>51996593
K702
It'll also last you longer.
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>>51995137
Would still like help for this
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fidelios are literally the best cans ever made for $200 or less
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>>51996700
ooooh is that why people say they're shit compared to just about everything else
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>>51993313
>are etymotics overrated?
Not that much.
>If I already had dt880s are they even worth buying?
If you like it, sure. Sounds different as well. It has isolation, lots of it.

>>51994237
>mostly sound the same.
No. No they don't . Where did you hear that from?

>>51992089
>NYC
Go demo at one of the many places that sell that stuff. B&H and AC Gears have a stock of headphones and IEMs.
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>>51996400
This is gonna be for home alone use
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>>51996593
>detailed sound and instruments' separation
This is not a thing, is pretty much just FR.

>>51992513
I'd say just the Fiio EX1 because low isolation.
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Where are the HD600s on sale?
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>>51996351
>>51996858
you might want to check out Sennheiser HD 598, it's become a meme at this point and almost all Sennheiser headphones have a specific type of sound which some(maybe even a lot) of people don't like

If you liked your old sennheisers, you'll probably like these too.
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>>51996953
>>51996858
The cheap Senns don't have much in common with the rest of the line.
Also, not the 598. Anything else in the line, or a different brand, an old Stax or whatever.
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My hf5 cables have tears in the cables but they still sound fine, so I'm looking to get upgrade some time next year.

How are the seal in ciem's vs ear dildos?

And are more drivers better?

Thought about upgrading to the er-4, but the cable microphonics and the price make it less attractive.
Anyone have experience with Lear? Been looking at this as a starter ciem because of it's price.
http://www.lear-eshop.com/products/lear-lcm-a1d
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>>51996953

Thanks. Should I get some kind of headphone amp? I've been listening to records on this:
http://www.amazon.com/Audio-Max-LP-Turntable-Built-In/dp/B00COC61LO
by just plugging headphones directly into them. I bought this as my first record player because a record shop down the street from where I live (just moved here) has a bunch of vinyl versions of stuff that I'm interested in, but not so many CDs. I just wanted something that would play the stuff, and figured my ears would be too stupid to know the difference, but the built-in speakers are pretty much what you'd expect for something like this, and I want a way to listen to stuff alone at night without bothering anyone but while getting a bit more power than I can get from iphone earbuds. As you might be able to tell, I have no idea what I'm doing.
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>>51997058
see >>51968601
and

>do I need an amp
-Is it too quiet?
-Is the output impedance too high (fixable by equalization)?
-Is there noise/EMI or hiss to it?
-Does it sound distorted as you start to crank up the volume?
If the answer is no, then that is your answer.
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>>51996994
>seal in ciem's vs ear dildos?
If you picked a tip with isolation on the Etys, could be less with the custom.
>And are more drivers better?
No. Depends on how it is used, and the answer is generally poorly.

A single BA CIEM will sound most similar to the ER-4; this is follows from that everyone uses the same driver when making a single unit IEM.
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>>51996412
>>51996341
>>51996323
Thanks. Bit of a noob question, how do I get my music files into .flac format? Do I use an online converter? I use flvto to convert youtube videos to mp3 at the moment if that helps.
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Best solution to drive AKG K7XX/701/702 between Fiio e10k, Fiio e11 Kilimanjaro2, Smsl sap II and Audio Bravo V2?
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>>51991780
He said closed, should get takstar pro80
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Just bought takstar pro80 how much did I fucked up?
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>>51997222
>I use flvto to convert youtube videos to mp3 at the moment
Should have said so beforehand. You're doing find, mate. No need to convert.
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>>51987968
But the Etymotic shills are right, insertion needs to be 'perfect' for there to be adequate bass and to push the resonant frequency past 10kHz where it doesn't bother listeners with sibilant and/or bright high frequency response.

>>51996994
ER-4 has less microphonics than the hf5 due to the braided cable, but offers the same sound despite using a slightly superior driver. I somewhat prefer the hf5's ergonomics because of the shorter cable and it lacks the pod found on the ER-4.
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>>51997310
come back & review them when you get them
I see people recommending them and the takstar HI2050 over things like the samson SR850 and the superlux lineup but haven't heard a review yet from either of them
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>>51997403
>insertion needs to be 'perfect' for there to be adequate bass
Nah.
Deep fit, tip swaps, damper swaps, EQ, whatever.
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>>51997503
By 'perfect' I already implied deep fit and compatible tips (although tips change the frequency response a bit). Damper swaps and EQ are a pain in the ass. I also prefer a zero-ohm impedance source for use with balanced armature IEMs.

Also the bass on the ER-4 is pretty satisfactory to me. And it (along with the hf5) are the only IEMs I've found to sound 'right'. I have a slight preference for the hf5 as it's what I use.
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Mad dog pros any good?
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>>51997724
They are quite dark, if you're into that.
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>>51997403
IE 80/800 is better though
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>>51997851
No. They're low fidelity overpriced garbage.
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>Budget
€150-200
>Location
Germany
>Source
Laptop and smartphone
>Preferred type of headphone
Wireless over-ear
>Open or closed
closed
>Comfort level
doesn't matter
>Preferred tonal balance
neutral
>Preferred music
wide variety (Rock/EDM/Hip-Hop)
>Past headphones
Sony MDR-10RBT (broken, so i need new ones)
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>>51997851
They are shit.
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>budget
100-150$
>location
Israel, trip to japan soon though
>source
oneplus 2
>preffered type
in ear with a volume AND pause remote
>open or closed
closed
>comfort
high
>preferred balance
dont know, v shaped?
>preferred music
some electronic, some rock, some metal, some autistic animu music
>past headphones
cx 300II, ath ad-700x
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>>51997962
>>51998171
This, hifiman ceo said they're trash

senn makes godlike headphones but they gotta step their iem game up
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>>51997585
Yes, I know how a 1D resonator works.
>zero-ohm impedance source for use with balanced armature IEMs
If you say damping factor, don't. That isn't a thing ever.
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>>51997222
If you rip stuff from youtube, keep it as the aac/m4a/webm you download it as
Stay away from generic 'converters' as they're more often than not just transcoding the audio output to mp3 and introducing compression artifacts
Converting lossy formats to FLAC is generally a bad idea
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>>51998462
>generally
i know why you put it, i just cant help but laugh anyway
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>>51996316
Really depends what music you listen to, can either be good or bad.
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parents ask me what i want for christmas under $1k and was wondering if this is the best end-game IEM i could get?
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>>51998747
>parents ask me what i want for christmas under $1k
at first I thought it was a really really low effort bait
but then I realized there are probably rich families that actually do this
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>>51998747
>the best end-game IEM i could get
No. Shure IEMs are pleb IEMs, people get them because they are like the first few brands they can find by Google.
The problem with the 846 is the extremely limted treble extension, you can do better with one of the cheap smartphone bundled earbuds. The fatter shell runs contrary to Shure's other more ergonomic earpieces.
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>universal
>end game
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>>51998886
i like my 215ks ;_;
inexpensive and hella comfy
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>>51998747
> was wondering if this is the best end-game IEM i could get?
Not. Bassy shit. SE535 is better and costs nowhere near that.
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Any opinions about Sennheiser HD-25 BE?
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>>51998909
If you're trying to imply anything about custom molds, no.

>>51998956
I was going to say that their most noteworthy IEMs are the 215 and 535, but 535 is still way overpriced at MSRP, the resale for it is only a little better than a CIEM.

>>51999017
HD 25 BE? That's not something I've heard of before.
HD 25 is okay if you can get past the extreme clamp. What does it sell for these days?
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>>51998828
>tfw got over 1k e in cash last xmas even though i asked for nothing
idk familian. my family isn't even something to classify as rich. i got a job and haven't lived at home in years. was pleasantly surprised tho.
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>>51999072
I've never gotten more than 100€ combined for any holiday, either cash, gift cards or presents
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>>51999220
50 bucks here
okay actually i think i got 75 one time
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>>51999263
how many people did you get gifts from?
It's hard to imagine a gift less than 15-20$ and I've always gotten gifts from atleast 4 people over the holiday period

I guess you might get less if you have no siblings, grandparents and uncles/aunts
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>>51999286
no gifts
parents would just throw me 30 bucks and aunt and uncle like 20, and aunt and uncle are the only family i have aside from immediate

were also not poor, just very, very, very cheap
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>>51997274
anyone?
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Is there any decent speaker-buying guide?

The only thing I managed to find was pic related, which seems to just include big speakers for big rooms

I want speakers bigger than my shitty £30 logitech shitboxes but not 12" tall monsters designed for rooms several times the size
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>>51999402
People on this general know very little about headphones and nothing about speakers.
They're just going to recommend some speakers they got themselves to feel better about their purchase.
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>>51999331
>just very, very, very cheap
Kek, what's up Solomon? Gon' hit up the bar after the synagogue later?
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>>51999491
Filtered.
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>>51999511
>Sour Jews
Worst sort of juice tbqh.
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>>51999491
hit up the bar? i cant spend that kind of money, you know that
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>>51994598
the mids are the only reason to choose the 701 over the 990s
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>>51999402
there used to be a speaker general on /g/
just making a thread about it should be fine

I don't think there's speakers made to be small or silent, if I think of speakers, I think of filling an entire room or multiple with the sound
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>>51999557
Just take some gold coins out of your bag. Every Jew has a bag of gold around his neck.
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Hi, I showed a friend my xiaomi pistons a while ago, and he liked them and wants to get a pair, so I am thinking of ordering a pair for him for Christmas. Now, since I got my Pistons, they have released the pistons 3s, and just last month they have released some sort of new hybrid IEMs. Which ones are the best choice? I've heard some mixed stuff about the piston 3s and I haven't heard much about the new IEMs.

http://www.mi.com/quantie/ are the completely new ones.

Pic related
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If I plugged my X2 to my Yamaha RX-V671 audio receiver, would it break them because of its high energy output?
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>>51998747
probably the most popular kilobuck iem on the market today

http://www.head-fi.org/t/675219/shure-se846-impressions-thread/13605

Only memers on /g/ hates on it because they can't afford it
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>>51999672
so far, there hasn't been a lot of reviews on the hybrid IEMs.

Most say they're really good, but the only review I found that compared them directly to the 3.0 said they were slightly worse (specifically the fit)
They all just mention it as a successor now that the pistons are going out of stock.

All the reviews I saw on the 3.0s said they were significantly more comfortable than the 2.0/2.1 with better sound. The only downsides they mentioned were the fact that they now were made mainly out of plastic instead of the nice metal from before and thus they didn't look as nice.

I'd either wait for more reviews of the hybrids (which I doubt you can) or get the 3.0s.

You can gamble on the hybrids though, if you don't and instead get the 3.0. Make sure you don't accidentally get the youth edition which don't have the nice carrying case and have a worse cable unless he absolutely needs it to be a different color

I bought a pair of the 3.0s for my own Christmas present from my dad, so I haven't really gotten them yet or got to try them yet.
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>>51999402
12' is like 30cm
Thats the smallest size a speaker is going to sound decent
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>>51999402
Those speakers are still small in the grand scheme of things. Only very cheap or very specialized monitors are going to be small like that.
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>>51999665
for Yahwehs sake Moishe, last time we went to applebees, you spent 10 fucking dollars. we cant keep this shit up

anyway fuck off, my parents are cheap as fuck, what the fuck do you know lol
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Is a used pair of K7XX for $180 a good price? Or should I just buy a new pair of K701?

I heard AKGs have great soundstage and I'm interested in one for gaming.
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>>51999873
>brand based soundstage
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>>51999886

Nice shitpost my friend, well meme'd. Can I get a serious answer before I waste my money?
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>>51999937
sure ill give you a rec, and its not based on your soundstage shit. the k702 are quite easily the best of the 3. why? because i know how to read a fucking fr graph

however, since you dont seem to know, this soundstage meme you speak of translates as nothing more complex than an fr graph that looks like a rollercoaster, so the k7xx will sound like it has the largest soundstage. does that mean its better? no, it means it's shit, but do what you want
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best headphones for watching anime?
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>>51999998

Nigger, I'm using it for gaming. The wider the soundstage the better it would be for gaming, am I right? I don't care about using it for music or anything else.
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>>52000077
then literally just buy a 10$ pair of headphones you think are comfortable and have stereo because there's no difference
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>>52000077
no, what you speak of is completely a meme. the only thing that gives any sense of real "spaciousness" is whether or not the headphone is closed or open (barring other factors like getting a proper seal and shit, but thats not really related to the technicals of headphones, it's just an if) youd want an open headphone, and the k702 is already that. theyre great phones, dont worry too much

>>52000069
im enjoying my 400i for that
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>>51996316
You can get DT 880 for virtually the same price in Europe. Get those.

DT 990 Pro are pretty good for the price.
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>>52000123

The K702 are better than the K7XX? Even if I could get the K7XX for much cheaper?
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>>51996823
>Where did you hear that from?
From people who have heard both. The frequency response is also pretty suggestive of it.
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>>52000077
>The wider the soundstage the better it would be for gaming
I love the shit head-fi convince people is true
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>>52000077
i wish gamer children would die
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>>52000152
>So Y is better even if I could get X much cheaper

Y is still better, but X will be better than anything at it's price range depending on the bargain you get on it
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>>52000077
I have a headphone that has over 9000% wide soundstages and Im constantly 360 noscoping da newbs XDDDD
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>>52000152
the difference from the graphs seems to me like the k7xx will have more bass, and very peaky/notchy treble, so it would seem less consistent, more spiky. the k7xx also seems to have shittier driver matching
so yeah, k702 is better. for the price? i dunno man. looking at the graphs i dont think id buy the k7xx, but the k702 and even k701 look great, with k702 in a much more slight lead
just me
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>>52000152
K612 Pro are better than both of those and are cheaper than both.
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>>52000254
>no removable cable
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>>52000325
Gotta make sacrifices for objectively superior audio fidelity.
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>>52000331
So get a Bose headset instead and equalize it.

>>52000244
701 and 702 is normal inter-unit variation.
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>>52000412
>So get a Bose headset instead and equalize it.
????
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>>52000452
>QC15
Less audible distortion in the Harman study vs 701. Better comfort too.
But you were talking about k612
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>>51999873
just pick the most comfortable one, also, be aware that K headphones usually need amplification, an alternative to the k701 that doesn't is the AD900X.
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Soo.. I want to get some Hifimen HE300/400e s and i just want to ask about the sound signature? how is it? is it bassy? neutral ? v shaped?
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>>52000805
HE-300 is v-shaped.
There is no headphone called HE400e.
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>>52000805
well you could literally just look a frequency graph and figure it out for yourself
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>>52000840
400s* or i
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>>52000841

True dat but im a bit stupid...
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>>52000926
HE400S is neutral. 400i is neutral, leaning towards bright.
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>>52000959

Im atm using a pair of X2 and thinking of getting a new pair.. Is it a upgrade? To get the HE300?
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>>52000988
No, HE-300 are bad and discontinued.
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>>52000988

So, you want to replace a mid-fi headphone with another mid-fi headphone? Buying the 400S/i is more like a sidegrade if you already own the X2s unless you just want a different sound signature. You'll have to up your budget before it's an upgrade, something like the LCD2s.
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>>52000988
if theres nothing wrong with the sound signature of your x2, i wouldnt bother
is there something you dont like? lay it on us
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>>52001104
>mid-fi headphone
This term is stupid, since is almost entirely "sound signature".
LCD-2 does not present exceptional qualities above 400i.
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>>52001375
>my rat dog broke my headphones
>1/5 not recommended
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>>52001502
based 49 year olds
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are all akgs made in china now?
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>>52001581
>>52001375
I would buy China-made K702 simply because they don't have the bumps under the headband. As far as sound quality goes, I don't think that AKG would let their chinese products to be inferior than their austrian ones.
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>>52001581
all headphones are made in china
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>>52001719

I had thought that there were a few left that were made in Austria and Australia, but I guess not?

It seems like they've all switched to China, that's a shame.
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This just dropped on Massdrop. Been thinking about getting one for a while. Worth it?
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>>52001719
everything is made in china
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>>52001719
Except two of mine.
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>>51999998
>the k702 are quite easily the best of the 3. why? because i know how to read a fucking fr graph
obviously you don't
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>>51999751
great proof there.
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What are your thoughts on the Audio Technica ATH-R70x? Would be upgrading from ATH-AD700.
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>>51987968

>mfw the rubber part got stuck in my ear

I crave full headphones ever since.
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>>52001951
Like a more midbass emphasized version of Sennheiser HD650, less subbass and less 4-5kHz.
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>>52001973
Thanks. Do you know if I would I need an amp to utilize the R70x compared to the Sennheiser HD650 (which I hear needs an amp)?
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Today I tested my X2 on three different sources: Asus laptop, old 30gb iPod and my Yamaha RX-V671. They sound basically the same out of the iPod and the laptop, while they sound slightly different from my audio receiver: the bass is boomy and less detailed, while the mids are slightly more powerful. Overall I still prefer the sound out of my laptop, it can play the X2 at really high volume after all. I love their sound signature, but what matters me about my X2, aside the glued earpads, is their congested sound: this is my first pair of open headphones, then I have no idea as to a good open headphone should sound, but my X2 don't sound more natural, more spatious, more "open" than the closed headphones I have. I'm honestly puzzled and I don't know whether I should send this pair back to Amazon, get a refund and get a different open headphone, or get a replacement. This is my second pair of X2, then I really fear that the next pair is going to have the same issues...
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>>52002030

It's a nigger bass headphone, of course it's not going to sound spacious. It you don't want a congested sound, then get a different open headphone.
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>>52002101
Nah man, my pair has probably a flawed sound. Regular X2 should have better soundstage and clarity, based on what I read in many reviews.
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>>52002143

You said "It's my 2nd pair of X2", dude, it's the way they sound. You can go and get 10 more and they'll all sound the same. Either keep them, or return them and get a less bloated headphone.
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>>52002025
Neither set is super sensitive, but neither is very insensitive either. Meaning that neither absolutely needs an amplifier, but we need to look at this case by case. Sensitiivty is close.

The high impedance and only moderate sensitivity should dispense with hiss and output impedance issues.
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I want to replace my AKG K550, I've had them for near, or just around 4 years it seems, and they're getting worn out and I can't seem to find replacement parts.
I love the way they sound, and not requiring an amp is nice. What do I replace them with? Do I just buy another pair?
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>>52002143
>Regular X2 should have better soundstage and clarity, based on what I read in many reviews.
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What are the best "neutral" IEMs for under $99?

Should I try the Etymotic HF5, or are there better alternatives?
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>>52002143
>he fell for the X2 meme
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>>52002171
My first pair had glued pads and gave off weird noises from the right earpad whenever I moved my mouth. I suspect that these build issues may cause sound issues as well...some people report that they open up after 100 hours of burn-in, but I honestly don't believe in this statement very much
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Anyone have recommendations for ~$100 speakers?
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>>52002255
Scythe Kro Craft if you can get your hands on a pair
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>>52002266
>4 inch "woofers"
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Are the Siberia V2s good? Should I buy them? Or should I spend a bit more on the Cloud 2's?
>inb4 all headsets are shit
This one actually looks good and the microphone doesn't sound like a fucking 1993 desktop mic.
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>>52002302
Don't get the Cloud 2s, the USB sound card is shit.
Get the Cloud 1s instead.
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>>52002292
They're less than 60 bucks, you could add a sub if you wanted to.
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>>52002266
Well, shipping out of UK is expensive as fuck. Thanks though.
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>>52002302
I've heard a lot of bad things about the cloud 2. If you absolutely need a headset, The original is still one of the top 3 headsets.

Siberia was seen as the best "gamer marketed" headsets before the HyperX cloud came out. I haven't heard ANYTHING about the Siberia V2 though, might be as much as a failure as the Cloud 2
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>>52002190
>Etymotic
Sennheiser and Shure are better
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>>52002359
The V2s were pretty well-reviewed iirc.
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What's the best benchmark for iems and why is it anime osts?
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>>51992195
Wtf is massdrop?
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>>52002361
A can on a string is better than etys
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>>52002361

The Shure SE215?

What Sennhesier IEM?
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>>52002366
well the cloud2 was also pretty well reviewed, doesn't mean they weren't a huge downgrade
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>>52002366
>>52002359
>>52002331
I see, the Cloud 2s are shit, thanks for warning me!
The only bad reviews I could find about the v2 was how quickly they'd start to malfunction or how cheaply made those rubber strings are and how poor the customer service is. How durable are the Cloud 1s?
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>>52002190
MK5 is flatter than HF5, but can tend to brightness. You can just buy any impedance adapter or in line attenuator to flatten out HF5 treble.

>>52002413
Not really. Senn IEMs all tend to bass heavy and are generally underwhelming.
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>>52002418
The Cloud IIs are still the same headset, just with a 4-pole jack and a shitty USB sound card. If you're not using that sound card they're just as good as the original.
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>>52002413
IE 80 is quite good if you can get it for 200 burgers or less, the shure 535 is good but pricey
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>>52002431
I its open-back cousin, the QPad QH-85. They're very well built, the headband adjustment mechanism was very loose on mine at first though.
I fixed it by putting a tiny piece of card stock as a spacer in there, they click very solidly into place now.
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>>52002472
>I its open-back cousin
I have its open-back cousin*, I can't type today.
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>>52002472
Ah I see, they seem completely identical.

Also what about the cloud core? Any difference between those and the original cloud 1s? From the specs all the difference I can see is that the core microphone has a larger range, and it's like 10$ cheaper.
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What do you guys think about tube amps? Are they worth it? I can't see why people would want to color and distort their music though.
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>>52002512
I think the Cloud Core has less accessories included or something.
I'd say spend the extra 10 bucks and get the extras, I'm not sure if the Core includes the (more comfy) velour earpads.
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>>52002435

What about HiFiMan IEMs? Are the RE400s any good? I'm trying to stay under $100.
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>>52002438
they're also, what, like 30$ more expensive?
>>52002512
>reading cloud core review

>Music is a big part of any gamers' experience these days. Services ranging from iTunes to Spotify keeps us connected to the musical world 24/7 whilst browsing Reddit, playing casual games or relaxing while in matchmaking queues.

help
me

>>52002548
it did mention not being as comfortable as the normal cloudx, so maybe it's indeed because of the pads
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>>52002558
they are ok
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>Budget
Up to 200€
>Location
EU
>Source
laptop
>Preferred type of headphone
Full-sized
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
High
>Preferred tonal balance
Balanced
>Preferred music
Everything
>Past headphones
Soundmagic E50s
Beyer DTX 501p (shit broke and completely disintegrated in less than a year, fuck this)

Do I just grab DT770 or is there anything else to consider? Good build quality is a must too.
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are planars just a meme?
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>>52002524
>why people would want to color and distort their music though
The bias runs both ways: expecting to hear to hear a clear difference when the difference is more subtle with whatever you played back, barring extreme frequency response shifts.
It's not worth a difference in sound, but sometimes you like the look.

>>52002558
RE400 is pissy in build but sounds decent.
The sound is more reduced in treble than HF5.

In terms of flatness/DF accuracy (not tonal balance) it goes something like:
HF5 with adapter(basically ER-4S)>MK5>HF5>=EX1>RE400
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>>52002566
If you really want maximum comfy, Brainwavz HM5 pads fit right on.
They're available in pleather or velour, $20 for the normal ones and $25 for the angled ones on Amazon.
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>>52002618
k550 or k553 pro if you can get your hands on it
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>>52002627
basically everything is a meme
soundstage is a meme
tonal balance is a meme
leakage is a meme
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>>52002627
planars are not a meme, they have great and obvious benefits

>>52002651
soundstage is a meme. tonal balance and leakage are not...
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>>52002627
Check out a 400i or 560 with a good amp. For the price it's pretty much endgame.
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>>52002635
>they fit on mdr-v6
hmm, I might get those and an mdr-v6 next
the stock pads on it look really small and thin and made me not want to get them
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>>52002695
I think Shure SRH840/940 pads also fit. Get whichever looks nicest to you, I suppose.
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>>52002634

So, the MK5's would be a better buy than the HF5 since they're much cheaper?
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>>52002741
An adapter will cost will all of 10 bucks, and you can find all sorts on ebay to use.

HF5 by default will be somewhat dark, MK5 on the slightly bright side. MK5 deviation from flat is just less than HF5.
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>>52002741
Etymotics are shit dude. The lower frequencies are literally inaudible. They have zero fucking bass.

You can be stubborn and buy it but buy it with the intention to return it. You'll know exactly what I'm talking about when you actually try it.
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>>52002887
>mfw people recommend etymotics in a thread with that pic as the op
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>>52002857
>>52002887
Again anything from hifiman, sennheiser, shure and westone are better than eardildos
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>>52002950
Hearty chuckle

>>52002964
For around $100 I'm pretty sure Chinese iems reign supreme. Some of them actually use brand name drivers so the buyer is getting quite a bargain.
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>>52003071
Brand name drivers don't mean anything. BA are produced by a handful of companies, many more make dynamic drivers for IEMs.
I don't see the value.
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Durable well balanced IEM for sports and day to day life? Budget under $200
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What's a good sound cancelation headphones I can get for cheap.
I don't need extreme sound quality, I want to damp the laughing of the chick 3 desks away.
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>>52003118
I'd trust a company like Knowles that makes billions of drivers a year to have a more rigorous QA than some no name company.

The value comes from you not being jewed.
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>>51999402
Alot of those speakers are shit
that guide is shit
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>>52002302
The tool's headphones choice.
Fucking arse noice cancelling in the mic that doesn't pick up anything.
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