Has anyone ever programmed on drugs and why not?
Pot gets me more focused and lets me develop for longer without getting distracted.
What do you think /g/?
Drugs are a waste of money and a waste of time. I can program just fine without them.
>>51970103
ive programmed drunk before, and regretted it the next day when i woke up to a massive headache and a fuckton of work to do
>>51970103
>take 24 benadryl
>sit at my desk and start working
>spiders start crawling on keyboard
>punch keyboard
>keyboard broken
>monitor falls while I'm trying to get away
>same with tower
>2k down the drain and for the next 8 hours I'm more worried about the spiders and ticks crawling everywhere
DUDE WEED LMAO
I have no need to destroy my body/mind with magic pills. If I want to be smarter and quicker, I will do it the old fashioned way with proper mental training, physical training and lifestyle.
>>51970125
fuck off you damn attention whore.
worst ive had is setting all error messages to "fuck you" and the client got mad
>>51970103
>do a few lines of coke before coming into work one day
>holy shit, you guys, look how fast I can type
>using all of my fingers to type as fast as the computer can handle
>I am a veritable god of the terminal
>come in to work next day
>I've submitted two patches to two different projects, both over 500 lines of code
>all consisting of the letter "r" typed over and over again
never again
>>51970103
yea marijuana, I want to try acid but now I realize it's kinda dumb because I won't be able to see shit.
>>51970103
i used to take a lot of xanax and ketamine and write python web apps in flask. they weren't poorly written but all of my variable names incorporated the word "cum", and the comments didn't really have much to do with the code, they were just strangely critical of Israel. Don't remember why.
>ketamine and xanax
>>51970125
Trips are a waste of time. I can post just fine without them.
>>51970272
sometimes i'd also drink alcohol and codeine syrup, i should probably be dead.
>>51970103
3 years non stop in college.
>>51970229
Don't try it with mushrooms either. You can end up with a bad trip with spiders coming out of your keyboard.
bruh enouph with the spiders
>>51970362
If you like drugs, you have to enjoy your spiders
>>51970125
Fucking goober
>>51970372
Them or lizards
spiders are scary but i had a lizard and he was my nigga
Mushrooms:
>try programming on come up cause i think ill be some wizard or something
>all the characters in the IDE start floating and jiggling around
>start to see like a 4D hyperspace inside my monitor
>fall back into bed and stay there tripping balls for next 5 hours
amphetamines:
>group project for school
>no one pulling weight
>fuck it ill redo it all
>stay up 48 hours non stop programming
>redid entire UI and backend, got A on project
>10/10 would recommend
cannabis:
>zone out over thinking the smallest changes in the codebase
alcohol:
>don't think enough about small changes in the code base, next morning everything is fucked
>>51970428
If you don't want bugs in your house, you either need spiders or lizards.
>>51970185
He says while shoveling doritos down his obese gullet
Does the Balmer Curve have any merit?
>>51970125
why are you like this, man.
>>51970498
He's paranoid cause he can't program for shit. So he has to inflate his ego beyond what being a tripfag could do.
>>51970437
ishygddt
>>51970447
Never tried alcohol while coding, I never could drink by myself
Installed arch while buzzin on Alcohol
>>51970272
Why is caffeine on its own considered highly unsafe?
>>51970649
Dosing pure caffeine is very dangerous and can lead to death.
>>51970163
Fucking kek
>>51970690
Accelerated heart rate can lead to failure.
And it can make many conditions worse.
Plus I imagine since not a lot of people realized how dangerous it can be, they underestimate the dangers.
>>51970226
I might have to try coke now.
>>51970432
You probably drank too much. Alcohol is GOAT for programming if you drink the right amount.
alco and weed - nothing really substantially happened - since some years I am like gibson, drugs reveal no secret information - even if pynchon tries to make us believe, that he is disproving this with every sentence.
>>51970103
>Pot gets me more focused and lets me develop for longer without getting distracted.
Yeah dude, did you know alcohol kills more people than weed dude? It cures cancer and shit, if everyone just smoked weed and chilled out we could have world peace, man
Eh, depends on the person, time, drug and dosage.
>weed
When I'm baked I do think some of the programming logic I can follow a bit easier but I'm significantly more likely to make a stupid mistake.
>valium
it's the opposite to weed for me, its real hard to process the logics but I'm very careful and rarely run into bugs, I'd argue most people would disagree with this
>LSD
Only programmed on acid once, I kept forgetting what language I was coding in, kept trying to do things that weren't possible and at one point thought my typos were messages my subconscious mind was sending me. Didn't get anywhere but it was fun.
>alcohol
Don't, like the other anon said you'll just end up regretting it, you won't notice your mistakes, simple as that.
I've never done it but I'd assume uppers would be the best, probably adderall, might get kinda tunnel visioned though. Just program sober for best results, maybe plan your programs while high?
>>51970229
I think acid/shrooms tend to be a lot less visual than movies and cartoons make out, unless you're megadosing
I can imagine programming on one of the 2Cs would be tough
>>51971130
fag
>>51971153
>I've never done it but I'd assume uppers would be the best, probably adderall,
https://www.reddit.com/r/Drugs/comments/1f39t1/chronic_masturbation_on_amphetamines/
>>51971221
Wow, thanks for linking me to reddit buddy! I sure am interested in this! Whilst we're on the topic of random notes about drugs and posting le reddit links why don-
no can't do this, fuck you
>>51971252
>I get my feelings hurt when I see the bad no-no website!
Heres another link then
http://www.bluelight.org/vb/archive/index.php/t-627930.html
>>51971221
>>51971285
You seem really high strung. You know you might actually enjoy a high.
You know, if you don't die of an ulcer first.
>>51971271
Tried once, next day I found program on my desktop called height determination app, it generates 6 random numbers (the length of the numbers is detemined by how long you've kept a button pressed) adds them up and determines how high you are.
>>51971327
>You need to take a toke on this dank weed dude, itll show you how the world really works
>>51971153
>I've never done it but I'd assume uppers would be the best, probably adderall, might get kinda tunnel visioned though
Amphetamines help you grind out code faster since you don't get bored. However, you also vastly underestimate the scale of projects, and you might get stuck optimizing something that doesn't really matter (build system, IDE, some piece of code) for 6 hours until it's absolutely perfect, without getting anything else done.
>>51971285
Honestly don't give a fuck about reddit, just fucking with you. I just didn't really see the relevance of amphetamines and masturbation. Might as well mention that weed can increase your urge to eat food. It's not relevant to programming.
>>51971440
The point of the link was a lot of people who take addys with the intention of being productive on the computer end up masturnbating to porn for 12 hours instead
>>51971461
Accurate ^
>>51971461
Fair point, I s'pose. For whatever reason I didn't really think about that fact that porn is pretty accessible whilst you're on a pc.
>>51971440
Key note difference. Doesn't increase your urge. Just increased your appetite.
It's semantics, but best be descriptive when there are idiots around that's entire drug experience came from D.A.R.E. presentations.
>>51970229
I've read that microing (taking really small dosage) LSD or shrooms is the new fad in silicon valley.
>>51970103
Ritalin and alcohol definitely help
I often just can't do certain things without them
>>51971384
Tripfags don't get to have opinions. Plz kill urself
>>51971502
He's not even a tripfag. He's a namefag. Which is even more dispensable.
>>51971491
Apparently a whole group of people trying to legalize lsd up there too
>>51971501
Ritalin has always made me jittery and depressed. I stay away from it
>>51971539
No shit dude, Psychedelics are next in line for legalization. There's legitimate value in them
>>51971539
Well it's not that bad of a drug. They should study it more, but it's hard because it's illegal. Hoffman took 10 micrograms (first timer dosage for tripping is around 120-150) daily for 30 years and he was completely sane 'till he died at age of 102. There are others who have microed few times a week for decades and in their experience it has kept them more focused, social and happy in general.
>>51971643
I would totally be down for that if i had the money. There has been alot of new stuff coming out showing problem solving skills improving during trips
>>51971667
I've always postulated that small to moderate amounts of mind-altering substances can be good for the simple reason that they forcibly shake things up.
Humans are lazy-ass creatures all the way down to a neural level, especially after adulthood has fully settled in. Our brains will take the shortest route possible as often as it can, which is usually good but lends to shortsightedness and lack of perspective in some cases. As such, being able to make the beaten path inaccessible on command has inarguable value.
Wow. Not only you are pathetic basement dwelling autists, now you are also using drugs. Ridiculous.
Shameful display, /g/.
>>51971667
LSD is dirt cheap. I've once tried 120 micrograms and it was around 10 euros. You could micro for 4 weeks with that if you do it three times a week. You just have to be careful because it could be some shitty experimental chemical that will totally fuck you up. It's best to order online and check reviews.
>>51971764
Your autism is showing, anon
Caffeine?
Caffeine is a drug. Literally, completely a drug. We're just so used to it as a society. It has similar effects to fucking cocaine. People in South America chew cocoa leaves like we drink coffee.
>>51971772
How do you order. Just straight to your house? Idk man i would be sketched out
>>51970229
There's not as much of a visual element as people make out, but it's hard to stay focused, and you lose some fine motor skills, so good luck typing.
>>51971776
Says the toothless methhead. Is it so hard to look at the mirror every morning and see that pockmarked, red eyed fat face staring back at you that you have to take drugs to cope with it? Are you actually so pathetic you have to damage your body and mind health to escape yourself?
You are literally the worst humanity has to offer. I hope you OD soon so you are finally freed from existence. Everyone would be happier, including yourself.
>>51971786
>cocoa leaves
I take it you mean coca, retard. And they don't give you a high either, idiot. It takes about 90 kg of coca leaves to make 1 of cocaine, plus several chemicals including formol and gasoline.
Educate yourself before talking shit.
>>51970103
Only worthless shitskins with poor self control skills use drugs, you'll find that the majority of great hackers do not abuse substances, so as to keep their cognitive capacity at its fullest.
>>51971923
>leet haxors know best
>>51971813
Poste restante if it's available in your country. If not then you have to give your address. I've heard that lsd is completely undetectable in post office and sellers are super discreet anyway. It's liquid so you can soak a birthday card in it or just a stamp or something.
Adderall has been the choice of coders for years, but with magazines hyping silicon valley lsd users it's propably gonna change. Psychedelics are usually more easy and safer to obtain.
>>51971855
Responding to bait but you do realize that 70% of americans eat prescription pills?
>>51970185
>I will do it the old fashioned way with proper mental training, physical training and lifestyle.
You know that's not the old fashion way at all. The old fashioned way is to do it on opium and cocaine which you legally purchased from a pharmacy for your cold.
You're doing it the new way.
>>51971895
>It takes about 90 kg of coca leaves to make 1 of cocaine
So theres 1g of cocaine in 90g of coca leaves? That's quite a lot isn't it?
>>51972016
Back in 2008 I someone on an anonymous image board order coca leaves from South America. He made an 8-ball of crack from a few ounces of leaves. It that good yellow shit too. I've been thinking about doing that lately. You have to make sure you get the ones that decocanized and those are illegal in the US.
>>51970103
I'm a habitual pot smoker and I program daily while stoned. I think it's fine. The cons are that I sometimes stare at the monitor for too long without typing anything and I forget what I was thinking about easily although that rarely matters in the day to day, when I'm working I'm able to hold what i'm doing in my head well enough, it's just switching between many tasks that's a little more of a strain.
The pros are that I can do it for longer without getting bored and that I can maintain my interest and excitement in even menial code. I enjoy it much more when I'm stoned, and my productivity is just fine.
I don't feel like i'm any kind of exception, many people do just fine taking much more than just weed.
>>51970432
Cannabs is spot on, I smoke a bit but would not bother after a J or two.
I always end up starting side projects that work fine, then the next morning...
>see the horrible things I did to make it work
>delete
>>51970185
Thi is either
>copypasta
or >some guy who's social life and skills are sub-par to say the least
Adderall is the same thing as Methamphetamine, so I have a feeling a lot of guys here who are trying to get Adderall prescriptions are going to end up buying meth on the street as its the same thing and a lot cheaper. I guess you guys will become addicted to meth and end up going a week without sleep while you clean your refrigerator radiator grill with a toothbrush until its sterile clean
>>51970594
>"buzzin on alcohol"
>native Irish here
lol
>>51971130
I see where you're coming from since 420 culture is megafag, but the best programmer I know (we are still students though) smokes 24/7 and he's miles above any of us. Claims he can't work without weed, can't imagine that working out when he's working in the real world but I can't deny it seems to work for him.
>>51972259
I've had friends work for startups that have gotten decently big and as long as you do your work well most of them are layed back enouph not to care
>>51971173
>>51971491
>>51971852
Wait a minute if this is true, then maybe micro-dosing can help with visual thinking.
I honestly don't know if you'd feel any effects micro-dosing tho it could probably be placebo effect. If not then yea I could see how it could help with programming, and possibly staying awake.
Not sure I got tricked and took a research drug which was a good trip but heavy on the body I think it was 25-I
>>51972419
Same guy here, check this out
http://www.maps.org/news-letters/v18n1/v18n1-MAPS_24.pdf
This guy took 75mg of LSD-25 to complete a complex programming project for IBM
>>51972016
Nice reading comprehensiom, druggie. It also takes several other chemicals to make cocaine. That's like eating raw cocoa and thinking it's the same as chocolate.
>>51972419
Yes, it definitely helps with visual thinking and problem solving. Some martial art practicers also mentioned to have better control of their body after microdosing. It's just that like all drugs, it doesn't actually make you smart or good at something, if you aren't already. Otherwise hippies and junkies would rule the world, even though many great thinkers and inventors have been known to abuse drugs.
>>51970163
Holy shit it's me from the past.
Never again
What about those "brain enhancer" pills they sell on amazon and the like? Are those total bullshit? I read an ad for one and they were comparing it to adderal.
>>51972673
I think I get what you're saying, it's like a safer alternative to addy. It won't make you smart but it will help with focusing, it's how you apply the effect that counts.
>>51970103
Caffeine. it makes me sad how much harder it is to code and focus if i haven't had my daily energy drink. I tried quitting caffeine but i had no energy, no focus and i could barely get anything done.
Stimulants are really the only acceptable choice. Caffeine really is the best for overall productivity, adderal is useful for grinding out projects you don't particularly want to do, meth is too much and you're going to want to exercise instead of program.
>>51972867
There are various nootropics which can have stimulant type effects but their long term effects are unknown and could possibly be dangerous for your body, and I'm not convinced most of them are anything more than placebo.
>>51972911
>I tried quitting caffeine but i had no energy, no focus and i could barely get anything done.
You're going to need at least two weeks to detox.
>>51972497
>75 mg
Holy fucking shit. Do you have any idea how much LSD that is? I didn't read the article, but that has to be fake.
>>51972867
I remember reading somewhere that those were complete bullshit but can't find the source. It's safe to assume that if it isn't under prescription, it's not gonna affect your brain in anyway. Biohackers who are into brain enhancing have been known to use narcolepsy medicine like modafinil because it has zero side effects and actually works.
>>51973016
more than likely they confused milligrams and micrograms, as that man would be able to do absolutely nothing of the sort above like 200ug
>>51973016
He obviously meant micrograms
>>51973016
Nevermind, I just read it. You're a retard senpai.
mg = milligram
ug = microgram
>>51970103
>try to code stoned
>end up staring at my editor for half an hour then playing video games
every time
>>51973016
haha sorry I didn't know the alt code for the greek letter so I put mg instead then realized my mistake
>>51973076
but 75ug isn't even a lot of LSD, anon. the average starter dose is like 100-115ug and that's not even a heavy trip. it'll fuck with your cognitive thinking processes and cause some mild visual distortion but it won't careen you into another plane of existence, especially if you've tripped a lot of times.
>>51972867
Modafinils bretty gud
>>51973129
What purpose is there in trying to trip out when coding? Isn't that counter productive?
>>51972911
are those actually enjoyable? why not coffee or caffeine pills?
>>51973129
Nobody said it was my man, but 75 milligrams would sure as shit be a pretty big (and expensive) dose.
>>51973129
I wasn't thinking about using LSD just to trip out. But microdosing to help with visual thinking. Which can be used to solve problems. Like the in the pdf, the guy was able to visualize the system in his mind and find inconsistencies within it. After that he made notes to suggest design changes. Once the effects were gone he reviewed his notes and implemented changes.
>>51973228
Would 75mg be a thumbprint?
>>51973197
I can see the constructive usage of microdosing LSD to be beneficial to designing complex systems, especially if you're in a rut and can't seem to think outside of a path you've already gone down. There's a chance it might enable you to look at the solution for an issue from a new angle that you probably wouldn't have come to sober.
>>51972911
Same. I used to have a legitimate caffeine addiction. Three-four cans of disgusting Monster or some other shitty brand per day. I eventually started having heart palpitations. I had to quit cold turkey when I started antidepressants because the caffeine would give me instant anxiety attacks after that.
The key is to quit cold turkey and muscle through the inevitable fatigue. Just a few days and the caffeine withdrawal will be over. If you're still tired after a week or two, then you might have a vitamin D deficiency. It's actually very common, especially among programmers who spend a lot of time indoors. Go to a doctor and get a blood test for your vitamin D levels. They will tell you how many IU of vitamin D you need per day, because the pills you get at the store are around 320 IU and nowhere near enough for a person with a legitimate D deficiency. (Actually, stores sell between 320 and 2,000 IU-per-pill bottles all the time. The 320 IU ones are practically nothing and probably just memes for people who believe in shit like homeopathy and pop unnecessary vitamins daily. You won't get into the danger zone until you get to above 10,000 IU/day.)
Even if you don't have a chronic D deficiency, everyone can still experience periods of D deficiency, especially during the time when the season changes from fall to winter due to the sudden drop in sunlight.
Vitamin D really wakes you up, and it does so legitimately without jitters or that surreal feeling you get after drinking a lot of coffee. I found out when I took 2,000 IU before bed one night ready to pass out and I ended up becoming alert and not being able to sleep all night.
>>51970103
OP's A FAG
Case closed
>>51973259
I'm not sure I'd call that coding. I'd call that system design.
>>51973301
>The key is to quit cold turkey and muscle through the inevitable fatigue.
Why? I don't know about your case, but I used to drink way too much coffee which made me a nervewreck at the end of the day, but I simply reduced it to 1-2 cups day by day.
I once tried salvia for music production with some musician friends of mine taking turns to make sure no one would go a-wire.
There is hardly any explanation as each mind get their madness in their own way, but watching a ferry with a giraffe as captain entering my house through the window I can must surely say that it wont help much with being productive. Specially when everyone told me I just stood there moaning unrecognizable shit and drooling a bit.
>>51970649
It's next to impossible to drink enough of any soda or energy drink to get enough caffeine in the system to die. This is because of regulations on the amount of caffeine allowed in a serving.
However, with pure caffeine you can easily get more than 2x, 5x, 20x, the caffeine in a monster. Depending on the method of ingesting you it could get into your system faster than if you were to drink an energy drink.
>>51971744
From my understanding of it and personal experience, depression is basically your brain taking the easiest/most familiar line of thought that just so happens to be bad for your wellbeing
>>51971855
Nah senpai you'll take my prescription adderall and my guns from my cold dead hands. like no one is talking about methamphetamine except for you.
Fun fact amphetamine and methamphetamine were widely used by both sides in ww2.
Also I'm not trying to defend crystal meth or the trailer park meth business but the propaganda about that drug you hear in school is really misleading.
Although both are neurotoxic there is a world of difference in the harmfulness of street meth and pharmaceutical meth.
>tfw some dare officer said meth was invented by Hitler and the nazis to keep their troops awake at my school.
>it was actually first synthesized in Japan
Cops should stick to not knowing the laws and try not to branch out into being wrong about other things.
>>51970103
What are they doing to that dog?
>>51972185
>same thing
It's not, meth has a lot of byproducts in it.
>>51974326
dogs have an innate paddling behavior when they are placed above water or a surface that appears to be water
they are invoking that behavior
if i place my dog 4 feet above the tub even when there is no water in the tub the reflectance off the surface of the tub makes her believe there is water in the tub and she will start paddling her legs
its qt as fuck
>>51972170
I'm an amateur boxer. I have no time for physiology-destroying substances.
>>51971416
This. Holy shit. I have ADHD, so I'm always on amphetamines when I'm programming, and I get a lot more done than when I'm unmedicated, but it's kind of a crapshootl where my drug-induced laser focus will land.
Which reminds me of my latest alcohol experience with programming.
>have a couple beers at lunch with coworkers
>then one of them brings out some moonshine he made for us as Christmas presents
>drink some of that
>have tolerance of 14 year old girl
>a little tipsy
>can't read dense design specification I was working my way through
>end up hunting this devops bug that's only a minor inconvenience until I sober up some
>end up hunting bug for next few hours
You'd better believe I got that bug, but the rest of the afternoon was a bust. Never drinking more than one beer at work again.
>>51971895
Those chemicals are only used to seperate and extract the cocaine from the leaves. Maybe you should educate yourself as well.
>>51972185
There's a difference between regular amphetamine and methamphetamine.
>>51973474
All that coding is worthless if it doesn't work, bakka
>>51970226
>>51970163
itt: people who have never done drugs, pretending they have
>>51973063
Try smoking half of what you would normally smoke to get stoned. You'll feel great, but you won't be so high you can't pay attention.
Also depends on whether you're smoking indica or sativa. Sativa is great to smoke when you need to get shit done.
>>51974945
Because they can't even be processed by our organism without being properly extracted and refined, shitworm. You could chew on them till the cows come home, it won't get you high, fuckface.
Retards nowadays can't even google search for shit.
>>51970103
I prog on weed all the time. Good fun
>>51975053
Exactly. But when you do a line of cocaine, you aren't snorting gasoline and shit, even though it's been treated with it. That's not very good cocaine if it was like that.
While sober I can program good enough but a major problem is focus, I do the actual thinking and writing sporadically which sucks, what others can do in 2 hours may take me 3 or 4.
While drinking coffee (caffeine) I can tend to mitigate this problem and usually get work done in an average or better time frame.
While drinking things like soda or energy drinks it's a 50/50 chance that I'll get the same effects as coffee (however for a shorter duration) or be a complete unfocused mess unable to do fuck all.
I drink alcohol and program on special occasions, if I am unable to solve a particular problem for a long time I will drink some and analyze it, 9 times out of 10 I will solve the problem but not understand what I myself wrote so the next day I have to read this uncommented mess and make sense of it.
I struggle to keep focus when reading normally and even still on caffeine, cannabis is used when I need to do a lot of reading in a short amount of time (specs, documentation, someone elses project, etc.). I have tried writing with it on occasion as well and it seems to give me the same level of focus caffeine gives me but without the withdraw symptoms of caffeine later, I don't feel nearly as wired either, caffeine seems way less stable for me and the potential to lose efficiency is there if I'm not careful as well, that's less the case with cannabis.
>>51975260
Another note on coffee caffeine, I tend to be way more hasty, even while double checking I may miss something, as exemplified in that very post. Look at the grammar mistakes. (I had some coffee recently).
>>51973301
I've been meaning to ask people about this but I don't even know where it would be appropriate or who would even know. When do you take your vitamins? I've tried taking them in the morning and before bed but I'm not actually sure when it would be appropriate, if I take them in the morning sometimes I get this really weird airhead feeling which is pretty disruptive, if I take them at night I get that problem you mentioned of not being able to sleep, I've wondered if I'm wasting that energy too by sleeping through it if I do manage to go to bed before they hit me.
Vitamin E for me specifically has these mentioned effects but I take it in combination with C and D, it was only after I introduced E that I felt these things though. I'm not sure why.
>>51975079
Gasoline and formol won't get you high either. The point is that coca leaves by themselves won't get you high, whether you boil them chew them or smoke them, so saying they chew on coca like it was coffee as if that were proof cocaine or drug is harmless is stupid. Coca leaves and cocaine are completely different.
That's like saying there's unrefined uranium in seawater so it's ok to waltz around a nuclear reactor core.
>>51975342
The same could be said of poppy seeds and codeine/morphine, eating a ton of poppies is harmless but you can still extract things from unwashed seeds to make something from them that is harmful in large quantities.
>>51975342
I'm not the anon who was arguing that it was possible to do that, or that cocaine can't be harmless. Why are you butthurt, man?
>>51975396
I'm not the person you're responding to but how is giving an explanation "butthurt", they're trying to help people understand.
