>wasting 3 years and $80k learning to program in Java
>>51967737
>not learning how to programming for free via the internet
>being a good goy wasting time and money on the jew scam known as college
>>51967757
It's free in civilized world.
>80k to go to university
>land of the free
>>51967772
If you get a degree that makes sense it doesn't take long to pay it off afterwards
Enjoy paying half your income in tax the rest of your working life so SJWs can study women's studies, black studies and fat studies for free.
Joke's on you, I became an excellent Java typist at college.
>>51967767
>>51967772
Enjoy Muhammads cock eurofags.
>>51967737
Right in the feels man. 11k in and have complete working knowledge of java. 1 year left then I can fulfill my dream of becoming a code monkey.
>>51967839
Thanks, I will, alongside with free healthcare.
>>51967912
>he doesn't know what taxes are
underage b&
>>51967912
You mean the one that you'll get taxed up the ass to pay for? There is no such thing as free healthcare you imbecilic, you're going to pay for it one way or another.
>>51967940
You mean the thing that Americans pay as well?
>spend $1000+ on math course
>don't study and barely pass
>when I actually need the math I didnt actually learn for my CE course I study my ass off and learn the math
>all this wasted money on math courses
I also pocket about half of my student loans and grants and stick them in my TFSA. I enjoy class, but I'm starting to think I'm wasting my money
>>51967737
I couldn't think of a title, more fitting, for you.
>>51967842
>find lump around neck
>make a booking to see doctor
>doctor will see you in a week
>this doctor doesn't really know but refers you to a specialist with time to see you in two months
>specialist does some tests that will be analyzed within a month
>apparently cancer but it has progressed so far that nothing can be done
>if only it had been diagnosed like two months earlier
You paid half your lifetime income in tax for this shit
T. Mongol in Funland
>learning any commodity language
just why?
it's amazing that people think they have a decent shot at making money when they're only capable of Java or PHP
you gotta find languages that hit that sweet spot ratio of usage:people where it's valuable to companies but isn't known by every other guy, his mother, and his dog
Objective-C and Swift work great for this since the required hardware act as a sort of gating mechanism. Popularity of iOS + lack of iOS devs == easily scored jobs with high salaries
>>51968140
syntax is easy to learn tho
if you know one oo language, you can switch to another oo language in less than two weeks
>>51968243
That's true for actual programmers that understand the underlying concepts. A lot of the crowd that goes for languages like Java and PHP tend to be the types that treat syntax as incantations. For them, being told to switch languages is a fate worse than death because they can't reuse their old bucket full of memorized incantation patterns.
That's a lot harder to get by with in any C-family language (C, C++, Obj-C) or even Python or Ruby.
>>51967955
Ha-ha. The healthcare that you get in the US is not comparable to the one in Europe amerifat
>>51967737
>>51967757
You sound awfully bitter
>>51968377
True. This wouldn't happen in America
>>51968051
Unless you're a degenerate leecher who refuses to pay for his own healthcare
>wahh why must I learn all this math
>wahh stop calling me a code monkey
>wahh rude
![penn_jillette[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/c3WcqTS.jpg "penn_jillette[1].jpg")
>>51967737
>thinking he'll land a job with no diploma or anything to show to his interviewer
>b-b-b-ut I'm homeschooled and that's enough!
Implying most universities cost anywhere near that much money
>>51969914
The best Java schools do
>>51967767
>free...
>who pays for it?
>government
>where do they get the money from
>taxes
Just under 6k in student loans, a pittance to pay off. Have offer to work as an IT consultant for 50/hr degree notwithstanding. Realizing school is just a meme, glad i kept the expense low.
>>51967757
>Didn't learn proper programming theory
>thinks they're a badass hacker for being able to write a hello world Android app
>>51967772
Yeah, free to not pay for it. However every single person and business in your country has to pay for someone else's schooling.
>No sir I have not attended a post-secondary institution. But I HAVE learned how to rice Arch Linux and program in Haskell via some books on the internet.
>>51967842
Do you know java ee?
>>51972131
Kek'd>>51972131
>>51967737
I'll have 80k paid off in a year of my job at Google with a new grad total compensation of 170k.
>>51967772
I don't think you understand the meaning of "land of the free". It doesn't mean "I never have to pay a cent".
>>51972015
>However every single person and business in your country has to pay for someone else's schooling.
Which is good, because you end up with a trained workforce and not incompetent NEETs...
There are only so many manual labour and burger flipper jobs...
>>51973457
That is literally the definition of free.
>>51970547
Wrong, they get it from revenue from foreign businesses (american included) they have ownership in because of our oil funds.
>being a degree-less code monkey
>not going to college and majoring in Applied Discrete Math and having companies suck your dick for high positions with minimal monkeying
>>51973472
Socialism in your country works because
>90%+ White majority population
>very small amount of people
>you don't pay for your own defense, America does
>>51970547
What's your point? America has some of the highest tax rates in the world, and yet no free university or healthcare.
>>51973554
The only reason is this desu senpai:
>90%+ White majority population
Also
>defense
We don't have a defense, because there hasn't been a war in West-Europe since 1945 and the cold war ended 25 years ago.
If the US has such a great defense, then why are they always begging on their knees for our fighter-bombers and mine sweepers?
>>51973601
>We don't have a defense
You don't seriously think that you just don't have defense, do you? You aren't that fucking stupid right?
You think America isn't the protector of all of Europe? The only reason your grandmother wasn't raped by ruskies and you aren't some half russian-euro hybrid is because of our presence in Europe. You know, the one that we've maintained ever since the end of WW2.
>>51967767
Dumb fucks don't know where taxes come from.
>>51967757
>not going to college and attempting software design
>>51973637
America doesn't have any soldiers in Ukraine. Russia's trying to invade Ukraine.
>>51973565
>some of the highest tax rates in the world,
Compared to socialist countries who do actually provide "free" college? I don't fucking think so.
>>51967842
>complete working knowledge of java
>not killing yourself before going full-on James Gosling
>>51973637
>You don't seriously think that you just don't have defense, do you? You aren't that fucking stupid right?
No, we literally don't have a defense. We have a highly specialised army that does air strikes really good or mine sweeping, but if some country invaded us, we would be utterly fucked... That's why NATO exists.
>You think America isn't the protector of all of Europe?
I think NATO is the protector of all of the western world, and yes we rely on the US and the US relies on the rest of NATO.
Just looked what happened when you guys entered Iraq without NATO backing... You fucking lost and created ISIS.
>You know, the one that we've maintained ever since the end of WW2.
Newsflash: American military presence in Europe has been virtually non-existing since the fall of the Berlin wall.
Face it, the US is no longer a superpower. It hasn't been for at least 20-30 years. Your greedy jews that collapsed your economy made sure of that.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superpower_collapse#United_States
>>51973676
You do. Your income tax is higher than ours. Progressive tax levels are king.
>>51973478
This is fucking /g/. How do you not understand the concept of "free as in freedom?"
>>51973680
Java's syntax was designed to fit within a page. It's not hard to get a good knowledge of Java.102
>>51973724
What country do you live in?
>>51973751
Norway
>>51973703
>Face it, the US is no longer a superpower.
Why do yurocucks always say this? Is it their massive inferiority complex that makes them do it?
>Just looked what happened when you guys entered Iraq without NATO backing... You fucking lost and created ISIS.
Hahaha holy fuck. You are mindblowing stupid. I thought yuro education was the best in the world? Oh wait, 9/10 of the top universities in the entire world are in the US.
>>51973457
slave to college debt
very free indeed
>>51973760
>Norway
>In 2012 the total tax revenue was 42.2% of the gross domestic product (GDP).
>United States
>In 2010 taxes collected by federal, state and municipal governments amounted to 24.8% of GDP.
>>51973764
You actually think you "won" the Iraq war? Tell me, what did you win? Literally thousands of dead Americans, billions on billions of tax money down the drain, destabilisation of the entire middle east, a highly controversial prison program and a highly controversial drone program that not only costs a great deal of money but also has harmed your international reputation and affairs...
What did you win exactly?
>>51973802
I'm laughing at you for being so retarded to actually think the American government actually intended to "win" the Iraq war. Everything they did wrong was on purpose.
>>51973792
>slave
Unless you get a job at Starbucks after school, you shouldn't have any problem paying off your student loans within a few years.
>>51973793
As I said, progressive tax levels. I pay 22% taxes and of that I get universal free health care, free education, social security should I get fired from my job etc...
If you are filthy rich, then you tax more. But the tax levels are progressive, not flat.
Also, I said income tax, not total tax. Import taxes are quite high, which you guys also have btw to protect american businesses against those scary weird foreign products.
>>51973831
>which you guys also have btw to protect american businesses
Not nearly enough, with all these fucking shitty trade deals.
>>51973817
>claim to be free
>get fucked over by government
>laughing because "lol the US government did what it wanted to USA USA USA USA USA!!!"
You're getting rekt by your own government. You should cry, not laugh.
>>51973831
>22%
>>51973852
We know, everyone knows. That's why Trump has been #1 in the polls for the past 10 months.
>>51973860
Well, I don't have estate tax. Like at all. Only people who buy second houses do.
What's the difference between payroll tax and individual income tax?
>>51967757
>jew scam known as college
Not for most fields, you ignorant fucker
>>51973885
Implying Trump isn't a fascist who will make the US government great again by reducing personal freedom.
I mean, internet censorship and religious prosecution? Come on, you're turning into Putin's Russia.
>>51973888
Payroll is at least partially the employer, individual is solely the individual.
And if you look at that chart, you'll see that very few people pay estate taxes.
Consider that your tax rate is roughly equivalent to someone living in the US that is rich enough to pay estate taxes (top 5%).
You certainly are paying for your "free" shit.
>>51973912
>internet censorship and religious prosecution?
Stop reading jew-made MSM articles and actually read what he said. And regardless banning mudslimes from the US is 100% constitutional and is what we SHOULD do.
>>51973885
Trump is a decoy. He's causing turbulence in the Republican camp so that Clinton will win the election.
Why is everyone forgetting that he is a personal friend of the Clintons and have donated literally millions to their campaigns throughout the years?
>>51973939
from entering the US, I meant.
>mfw wasted 3 years and $80k learning to program in Visual Basic
>>51973939
>And regardless banning mudslimes from the US is 100% constitutional and is what we SHOULD do.
Do you know what the word constitutional means?
And no, it's not what you should do. You're effectively ending trade and business with all companies that have muslim employees. It's anti-captialist aka communistic
>all these plebs not programming exclusively in Haskell
>>51973939
It's retarded though.
>"Alright Mr. Muhammad Al-Bakr Ahmed Kebab Bin Shakir, are you a muslim?"
>"Uhh, No"
>"Welcome to America!"
>>51973988
That isn't what actually happens. They just ban all immigration from Muslim countries.
>>51973999
>immigration
So how the fuck are you going to stop muslim terrorists then?
Wasn't all the 9/11 bombers tourists?
>>51973999
So, just fuck all the Christians and Atheists wanting to get out of those shitholes then?
>>51968140
You can still get a job as a java developer fairly easily at an enterprise. Java isn't that well known.
>>51974042
They're already saying fuck you to Syrian Christians running from ISIS.
And atheists are one of the most hated demographics in the US.
>>51974042
>Atheists
>in muslim countries
loving every laugh, family
but yes, "fuck" all the people that want to leave those countries, if we cannot do a good enough job of differentiating the good from the bad, it's better to mitigate risk this way
additionally we have no obligation to provide safety and sustenance to refugees, the cuckolds of Yurope are already doing a great job in that regard
>>51974075
>loving every laugh, family
There are plenty of atheists in muslim countries, but not open atheists as they get killed for it.
>additionally we have no obligation to provide safety and sustenance to refugees
You do actually
>what is the UN refugee convention that the US is part of
>>51973948
hmm.. How do I know you never went to college?
Do you really think you only learn one language in college? You won't even learn a single language because it's all theoretical and it's all about math. In the end you will leave with basic skills in a programming language, but with advanced knowledge in the theoretical stuff
>>51967737
>>mfw college for free cuz pell grants.
Its nice to be poor sometimes...noone expects anything, which is exactly how much I'm willing to give.
>>51974102
>what is the UN refugee convention that the US is part of
>UN
>meaning anything
LOVING
EVERY
LAUGH
>>51974075
>USA destabilises Iraq by removing Saddam
>USA destabilises Syria by bombing Assad and providing insurgents with weapons (among them ISIS)
>ISIS deliberately drive millions of people to Europe in order to wreck havoc in the west and conceal terrorists among refugees
>Americans, the root cause of all this, sit safe in their country and go "lol you fucking cucks"
Well, fuck you
>inb4 you claim that the American people is not responsible for the actions of the American government
>inb4 you claim to be free as in freedom but your elections doesn't mean shit
>>51974144
>US pushes refugee plan
>implying Barry Obango doesn't plan on following the plan he himself pushed through
Great story senpai
>>51967737
>be EE
>know more CS than CS monkey pahjeet on visa
>>51974102
This yurocuck thinks the biggest military in the world has to care about some paper document by professional whiners. Yurocucks are fucking delusional and I will be glad to leave this Muslim infested shithole of a continent. If Trump wins then I'd rather move to a white USA with some fascist elements than stay in a multicultural democracy in Yurocuckistan where I have to pay 50% of my income as tax to finance slackers and degenerates. And where I go to prison for defending myself from a burglar in my own house.
>>51974172
>still be NEET living in mother's basement complaining about how pasjeet stole his job he was somehow entitled to
>>51974175
>if trump wins
kek'd
See >>51973942
>>51974160
>Well, fuck you
Love us or hate us, it doesn't matter. Maybe you shouldn't have signed up to be in a one-world government if you wanted more control over your own country.
>>51974170
I was just saying we don't have any meaningful obligation to take in refugees, not that the action wouldn't be forced through by our cuck of a President.
>>51973942
>thinking that a businessman "donates" millions of dollars out of feelings like friendship
he knows how the game is played
>>51974179
DESIGNATED
>>51974207
>Maybe you shouldn't have signed up to be in a one-world government if you wanted more control over your own country.
We haven't. Norway isn't part of the EU and the EU can't force us to accept immigrants. We return 90% of them, but it still costs us a lot of money because shit nations like Russia deliberately transport them to our borders.
The only reason the same thing isn't happening in the US is because you're surrounded by Ocean, whereas in Europe refugees simply take a shitty paddle raft to get here.
>>51974242
>shit nations like Russia deliberately transport them to our borders.
sounds like my nation isn't the only one in desperate need of a wall
>>51974219
Yes, he is a skilled goy but he still ain't no jew. Trust me, he is solely doing this to deliberately sabotage for the Republican party. They're stuck with having to deal with Trump, whereas the Democrats are pretty much settled on Clinton.
She is going to win (sadly), and it is partly because of Trump's help.
>>51974256
We stop all of them, and return them to their original country of origin (mostly Afghanisthan), but it still costs us shitload of money.
Putin is doing this to fuck with us (and other European countries). Meanwhile, our cucked ally is afraid of doing anything because it might upset Putin.
Fuck you, you're weak. I hope EU and NATO crumbles and we go ally with Putin instead. At least he's not a weak cuck.
>>51974108
Well of course VB isn't the only language we learned, but it was the most prominent one.
>>51974289
>Meanwhile, our cucked ally is afraid of doing anything
Why don't you do something? Sounds to me like you're the one being cucked here.
>Fuck you, you're weak.
The irony is palpable.
>>51974336
>Why don't you do something? Sounds to me like you're the one being cucked here.
Because we are a small country. You were the one bragging about US superiority and how they help Europe. But currently, they're not helping.
>The irony is palpable.
Well, at least we, a small country, dared to say fuck you to China when we gave a dissident a peace price to great Chinese dismay.
>>51974270
Want to know how I know you're either a cuckservative or a yurocuck?
>>51974364
>dared to say fuck you to China
It's easy to say "fuck you" to someone when they don't have a huge economic impact on your country.
You're a small country of cuckolds, full of impotent rage that you are so powerless to affect the world, or even your own borders.
>>51974377
I'm not interested in hearing your delusional ramblings, no... Face it, Trump is a farse. It's fucking obvious that he is doing this for Clinton, and she is going to do him some sort of favour in return.
Once a filthy Democrat, always a filthy Democrat.
>>51974402
>It's easy to say "fuck you" to someone when they don't have a huge economic impact on your country.
They did though.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China%E2%80%93Norway_relations#2010_Nobel_Peace_Prize
>You're a small country of cuckolds, full of impotent rage that you are so powerless to affect the world, or even your own borders.
You seem unable to make up your mind. Which is it, is the US here to help us or are we here to help the US?
>Taking out loans for school
I'll never be able to understand. If you're even a little bit skilled, you shouldn't even have to pay for your school, let alone go into debt. If you're too dumb for that, work a part time job in your free time and full time during the summer. Fuck it work two during the summer.
If you can't even do that, drop out, you shouldn't even be in college. It's not that hard.
>>51974402
>or even your own borders.
>implying the US doesn't spend literally billions on preventing spics from crossing their borders too
>>51967737
Joke's on you, it was 5 years, $40k, and we "learned" c++
Really, its a $40k piece of paper that guarantees me a job, I really didn't learn all that much but the parties were good
>>51974405
>turn down hundreds of millions of dollars of profit and your own precious time to do a "favor" for an extremely corrupt politician known for fucking people over
You are so massively fucking retarded. I can't even comprehend how fucking stupid you are.
>>51967737
They gave us 1 month to learn java at my university. The other 3 years and 11 months were focused on computer science.
>>51974462
As I already said you fucking illiterate imbecile, he is not doing any favours. He clearly has an agenda, and can lobby what the fuck he wants after Clinton gets elected. Plus, he has gotten a massive amount of publicity.
I can't even comprehend how fucking gullible you are if you think the media circus that is Trump is anything but a charade.
>>51974428
>Which is it, is the US here to help us or are we here to help the US?
Being an ally is a two way street.
Though, when Putin eventually invades your country, I'm sure we'll be the first to declare war on him.
Rest easy, my sweet little cuckold.
>>51974447
>spend literally billions
Woah, where is that number coming from? ICE does a lot more than look at the southern border.
>>51974502
You're the type of person that would see Trump win the election and get inaugurated and be like
>No, he is doing this for Clinton. He is going to do her favors now that he won the election. I know it.
>>51974511
>Being an ally is a two way street.
Every time you ask for help, in form of sending fighter-bombers or military forces, we do help you.
>Though, when Putin eventually invades your country, I'm sure we'll be the first to declare war on him.
You believe that? Your cuck president did nothing when he invaded Ukraine. Germany clearly wanted to go to war, but the US said no so no war.
>Rest easy, my sweet little cuckold.
We are just weak. You're the cuckold who lets your little brother gets bullied because you're too afraid to do anything about it.
>ICE does a lot more than look at the southern border.
And so does our border police. Remember, sending them back? You don't think shipping Pedro and Consuela back to their shitty village for the 50th time costs as much money as shipping Ahmed back to his shitty village? The real difference is that Afghani refugees can only afford to come once because of steep human trafficking prices, while Mexican illegals keep coming again and again and again.
I even heard that you were considering giving free education and health care to illegal immigrants. And will not throw them out under certain conditions, such as having stayed in the US for so and so long.
And you call us cucks...
>>51974521
>Trump win
Okay kid, this is obviously your first US election if you think that.
>>51974585
Says the fucking yuropoor. Fuck off retard.
>>51974585
>Trump
>not win
Presidency is a popularity contest, and Trump is winning by a large margin.
>mfw I'll get a job starting at around 50-60k and live in a cheap apartment or with my parents for a year and then my debt is paid.
It's like people are retarded.
>>51974595
>>51974599
But he's not even slightly popular... He has like, what 20-30 % of the votes of the republicans?
>>51974630
If you think anyone who would vote for a Republican candidate would change their vote to Hillary, you don't know jackshit about anything.
>>51974659
>If you think anyone who would vote for a Republican candidate would change their vote to Hillary, you don't know jackshit about anything.
Says the guy who keeps insisting that a "candidate" that has literally invested millions in the Clintons earlier campaigns and voted Democrats his entire life suddenly changes his political view radically and decides to join the Republican party and be their candidate....
Top fucking kek
>>51974691
>comparing a candidate saying anything to win to millions of voters who hate every single member of the Clinton family with a fiery passion
>>51974705
>wanting a guy that says anything to win as your president
This country is filled with cuckolds.
>>51974630
>>>/Reddit/
>>51974630
Try 38%. And when he gets nominated Republicans will vote for him. And if Hillary gets nominated, Bernie supporters will vote for him.
>>51974720
I never said I wanted him to win, but you aren't wrong.
>thread about college and CS degrees
>/pol/acks invades and tells us how socialism and multiculturalism leads to degeneracy and the end of the white race
Never change, /g/.
>>51974574
>Germany wanted war
Xdddddd
Merkel is the female definition of cuck
Enjoy 1 million Muslims
>>51974735
>>51974659
Yeah, just like all those tea partiers made sure that a republican got voted in, right?
>>51974744
who said anything about the end of the white race
the only person I see says that socialism is only possible because of the white race
if you're going to scream /pol/, at least be accurate with your memetext
>>51974763
Tea partiers were a very small minority and non influential in the vote, they were just loud.
>>51974769
>who said anything about the end of the white race
Sorry, cucked by muslims then.
But >>51974175
>>51974781
Gee, sounds almost like Trump supporters.
>>51974785
It's fine, it was inevitable you would be an absurd reductionist in your glee at being able to post worn-out memes, just show a little more care with the details in the future, okay?
>>51974793
Trump supporters are dominating polls, Tea party limp wrist faggots never came even close.
People who become programmers after getting a computer science degree are like people who become janitors after getting an architecture degree.
If you're a programmer you're shit, it doesn't matter if you went to school or not.
>>51974882
That's why I majored in information systems.
>>51969900
>employers totally care you slacked off in college and still got a piece of paper that says "spent x amount of hours getting lectures droned into them"
>employers totally care you "tried super hard!!" in college but don't have anything to show for it besides a paper that says you were living in poverty for four years
Yeah that's totally how it works Bill the Shill, thanks.
>>51975103
>>51975103
That's exactly how it works you fuck. No one said it makes sense or is fair. Go try be a developer anywhere with nothing but a high school degree.
>>51974910
even worse
>>51975103
that's literally how it works baka senpai
>>51967737
Less than 3k euro a year in Europe.
>>51975103
Unless you have invented some decent piece of USEFUL software, no software company will take you without that Bachelors degree.
A GitHub full of lousy Python functions won't impress anybody except your granddad.
