>his brain doesn't synapse fast enough to notice the 15-20 ms click latency
The razer abyssus mouse is very good and very light
>he doesn't have a 200hz monitor
>>51961963
>he shitposts on /g/
>needs to justify his pointless $100 "gaming" mouse.
Lol you're a retard get out of /g/ kid got v or b lil faggot.
>>51962259
blown out fk owner detected
What's wrong with Zowie mice?
>Using the old revision
>>51964897
Old revision (2014 and earlier) had click latency. Any Zowie with white or red logo is perfect. Best mice on market.
>laser
Enjoy your cuck technology.
>>51965187
Damn, I have a yellow FK. I thought it was the best upgrade from my old MX500 - It does feel very slow now I think about it.
i got zowie in 2014
yellow...
damn I got shilled, didn't I?
The original click latency is pretty fucking bad desu. It's well over a frame of input lag at like 20-30ms which may not sound like much but when 144Hz monitors can draw one frame in 6.9ms it can actually fuck you in games like CS:GO.
>>51966262
CSGO is still only 64 tick. It can't.
Hey fag!
Yes, you!
An expensive mouse isn't going to improve your k/d ratio, you fat fuck. You'll probably always suck at videogames no matter how much money you spend on garbage.
You should probably kill yourself.
>>51966274
That's 15.6ms, still faster than the mouse can click, family. And, if you play on 128 tick servers like real buck niggas do, the difference is even worse
> not getting the G100s
>>51966371
>G100
Only three buttons? What is this, 1995?
>>51966423
> needing more than 3 buttons for FPS, pls.
>click latency
>bad firmware
>angle snapping
>acceleration
>jitter
>high LOD
>nonfree drivers
>prediction
>laser
>low perfect control speed
WHY ARE MOUSES SO HARD
>>51966371
Left click got fucked in less than a year, had a razer and some a4tech before and both of them managed to survive 2-3 years.
>>51967088
but its like $20
>>51965914
16ms is a single frame. I think you'll be OK.
>>51965914
check the serial number on the bottom of your mouse
manufacture dates past 10 March 2015 are confirmed to have updated firmware/improved latency
it is possible to have a yellow zowie and improved click latency
>>51966262
>gaming
>>51967372
On a 60Hz monitor, which is for plebs.
>>51966371
I've had that a couple years and I love it. Don't like the coating of the mouse, though, and it still feels weird since it hasn't worn away even with great use.
>>51966491
>MOUSES
why is grammar so hard
>>51967590
Mouses is fine if we're talking about the computer peripheral.
>click latency
Why is click latency important again?
>2015
>zowie still cant into braid their cords
>forcing users to buy those shit gaming stands to hold the cable and not cause friction
>>51967667
>Not modding your mouse yourself with a better cable.
>Not building your own cable bungee practically for free.
WOW, gaming peripheral brands, notice us!
>Not just buying the mouse that fits you hand best, and has all the things you want in a mouse.
Bought the Corsair m65 (before they changed their logo to a tramp stamp and added LEDs to the mouse everywhere)
I like my mice heavy, braided cord, and no shit ton of buttons. $50 and a while later I'm still using it.
Christ people become autists over a PC mouse just as much as they do over muh mechanical keyboard switches and actuation differences.
Just buy what you like and fuck everyone else and their opinions.
>Posted using my CM Quickfire TK with MX cherry blues.
I still use this mouse, it's comfy and easy to wear.
>>51967709
Why the fuck would i sleeve the cable myself when all other mice companies do that shit from factory except zowie from whatever the fuck reason they would have.
And building my own cable bungee nigga really? thats worst than buying cuz you are too fucking poor to buy one.
>>51967978
I have a pre tramp stamp M65 and I haven't noticed any acceleration in my tests and am a 15RWS GE at CS so it must not be that bad.
>>51967667
Braided cords are shit tier
>>51967590
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mouses
Mouses is an acceptable spelling of the plural of computer mouse.
>>51966321
>128 tick servers
What does this even mean? (I don't play games)
>TAIPEI, Taiwan, Dec 10, 2015
>BenQ announces the launch of the new ZOWIE product lineup with refreshed brand design with the logo in red color and product packaging.
>logo in red
Why did they have to go and ruin perfection…
>>51967535
I bought it late 2014. :(
>>51968153
why is it all beat up
>>51967565
I hope you're not implying someone should pay for an overpriced 120/144Hz IPS monitor anon. (TN are literal cancer)
>mfw all these autists discuss their mouse latency just to be BTFO by a russian kid who's playing on his babushkas old mechanical mouse that's all yellow and dirty because papa wladimir promised to clean the ball with vodka but never did because he always drinks it all.
>>51969296
Are the new models with red logo any different from the ones with white logo in terms of firmware and shit?
I want the latest/greatest but I don't want the ugly red logo…
>>51961963
are those good? I've never heard of them, but I like black/yellow colouration. I can pretend to be a bumble bee.
buzzzzz
>>51969712
>but I like black/yellow colouration
I have bad news for you. See >>51969296
>>51968881
>>51968881
User input is processed 128 times per second
>>51969685
The new red logo FK replaces the older generations' huano switches with lighter omrons, and its scroll wheel has been reverted to the original 16 step spec vs the 24 step of the previous two generations
>>51968153
I fucking hate the graphic, looks like it's dented.
>>51970890
The scoll wheel definitely changed but the quality really didn't improve that much
Bought this on black Friday for $25 and made a custom 3d printed shell for it. It's now perfect.
The clicks are just unbelievable. It's super responsive and light. My cps went through the roof. You can click on it and have the cursor deviate at all during fast movements.
>>51970987
G303 is the shit; I'll take it over the G502 anyday
what's diff between fk1 and fk2 senpai?
>>51962302
It's half that
>>51965187
Thank god I ordered the zowie ec2a
Can't wait to feel the smooth sensor
>>51971125
the fk2 is slightly smaller but otherwise identical to the fk1
fk2=fk'14 form factor
>>51967978
Memeing aside the FK is a super comfy mouse.
>>51961963
kensington mouse-in-a-box. doesn't chafe the surface of whatever you put it on like crap heavy burdensome feeling gaming mouse. lmoa grow up wat is this two thousand & two? kensington mouse in the box SEXEY profile fits ALL needs feels GREAT my fav used to be logitech m100 it had a thinner cord desu but crapped out on me with the infamouse logitech double click issue, the piece of sh*t.
>>51971374
>tfw miss awp shot by 20 ms and die so you can get back to your tendies
>>51970890
But which of switches are better?
Got Sense.
Better than Rival G303 FK or G502
fuck your meme gaming geat
>>51971820
Most prefer omrons because they're easier to spam. Others like the old FKs specifically because of their heavier actuation. Due to its shell, all FKs have a much heavier click than other mice regardless of switch. The switch has nothing to do with click latency though; this is a firmware problem.
>>51971900
What language is this even.
>>51967372
the problem is what's the point of buying a gaming mice if it isn't for the low latency, and pointer accuracy?
definitely sucks if you aren't getting the specs that you thought you were getting.
>>51971972
>The switch has nothing to do with click latency though; this is a firmware problem.
So I would be fine if I got the model with the white logo and then just updated the firmware?
Don't care about the spamminess.
>>51972052
Yes, all white logo versions already have the updated firmware and improved latency
>>51972085
Nice. Thank you anon.
>BenQ merged into ZOWIE
I got this Mionix Avior for a bargain price of 50€.
I like it, not too light, not too heavy, good shape for me, and has one of the best sensors on the market.
zowie fk1 2015 is perfect for people with big hands
>>51972106
>"From 2015 on, ZOWIE brand was acquired by BenQ Corp to represent the company’s eSports product line that delivers truly competitive experience and enjoyment."
>>51971976
what language are you using?
>>51967565
better to be a pleb than a goy
Daily reminder ambidextrous mice are best mice
>>51969456
>Worried about latency
>Not using a TN
C'mon. This is basic stuff Anon.
>>51972130
>his mouse glows in the dark
>>51972222
Yup, it glows, very subtly.
>>51969594
>$60 1ms mouse
>$500 144Hz 1ms monitor
>$200 "high-speed" RAM
>Fiber line
>Incredible amount of unavoidable latency built right into the game due to lousy programming
>>51971044
The shape is literally shit, that's right.
Best sensor on the market, but shit shape.
Enjoy your carpal tunnel syndrom.
Thinking of getting the Zowie ZA. I currently have the Steelseries Senei.
Anyone know if the ZA11, ZA12 or ZA13 is closest to the Sensei in size?
G400 @ 800dpi here.
I wish I had my old Intellimouse 3.0 ;_;
>>51973689
I wish I hadn't fucked up and gotten an AM-GS but that's life man.
are there any decent mice that are larger than the g400s in size? i can claw it but i want a mouse i can use a palm grip on.
>>51974239
G9-X, good luck finding one for their original price now though.
>>51974284
i think this would probably force a claw grip too. the issue is that my fingers are long, not that my hand/palm is wide. sorry for the confusion.
>>51961963
Synapse is a gap between two neurons where information is transmitted and not the process of transmission itself, so synapse fast enough means absolutely nothing.
>his brain doesn't gap fast enough to notice blah blah
>>51972106
i just wish when they went through the audit process they didnt drop the production of the camade(mouse bungee).
>>51967088
>Left click got fucked in less than a year
Holy shit I thought it was just me.
I got it for a temporary replacement anyway, but damn is it ever shitting the bed.
got myself one of these and although the build quality is shit, it feels great
>>51962032
>mfw the human eye can't see above 12hz
>>51975795
Best mouse coming through. Durable as fuck.
>>51976319
>max tracking speed: 1.6 m/s
>best
>>51970987
pics of shell plz
>>51962302
>being so poor he has to resort to shitposting
>>51966301
underrated post
my $4 no name fucking plain jane 2 button mouse has never failed me in the last 5 years of use
it doesn't wear away, the feet are still bulging and at no point has it ever malfunctioned
Razer Deathadder is the only mouse I've found that feels comfortable in my hand.
Too bad they're shit and now it's double clicking.
>>51979150
Sure, old stuff may have better longevity but some of us are ready to give some up in order for performance and convenient features.
For example, a bicycle may still work fine after like 50 years but most people would still prefer a car anyway, even if it needs to be replaced after X years.
>>51979243
That analogy was awful.
>>51966301
Actually when I switched from a laser wireless logitech to an optical cabled zowie I improved a ton.
>>51979279
Perhaps, but it gets the point through. For example I value being able to change settings on-the-fly and saving it to my mouse's own memory so I can bring its settings with me if I need to use it with my laptop. I also like the extra buttons for easier navigation and macros.
These are just some of the reasons that made me upgrade from my previous mouse that was (and still is) fully functional.
>>51979300
>zowie
What model do you have? I'm thinking about getting a Zowie myself but not sure which model or size to go for.
Also not sure whether to buy the current ones with the white scrollbar/logo or wait for the just-released revision with the red logo.
>>51961963
zowie got purchased by Benq, they will replace the yellow with red
Fuck off gaymerfags go shitpost on v. Saged.
>>51979370
It doesn't look too bad. It's a discrete shade of red.
Also the scrollwheel is black now so that's an improvement.
And I assume there's no illumination because of this (correct me if I'm wrong though).
>>51979455
the red is much better looking, regarding the other I dunno
>>51961963
Sorry, but I need more buttons.
>>51961963
are zowie mice actually good or this is only another of /g/'s memes
>>51979622
>$current_year
>still playing MMOs
They're all dead and/or shit, anon. Just let it rip in piece.
>>51961963
I have a Zowie FK2
How can I check if mine was made before or after they made latency changes?
>>51979658
I don't play any MMORPGs.
I use all of the buttons in any game I play regularly, including lots of desktop usage outside of games.
I've got various command line scripts to fire off, media keys, browser shortcuts, and programming macros.
>>51979679
You should be able to tell manufacturing date from the model/serial number or something on the mouse itself or the box it came in.
But if you have to check, you probably don't need to know. 10 or 20 ms latency won't make a difference for browsing 4chan.
>>51979711
>But if you have to check, you probably don't need to know
You're right, its not like I'm a pro mlg cs gaymer
I love my Zowie, its comfy and feels nicer in the hand than logitechs imo
>>51979741
I don't know if the problem is hardware or software related, so if you have an old version you may try just updating the firwmare (if that's even possible) and see if that fixes it.
>>51964952
>>51965187
>>51967535
Yes the new revisions improved the click latency, but half of utter shit is still pretty damn shit.
went from 30~ ms to something like 16~ ms
which is still pretty fuckin bad
Zowiefags btfo
>>51979626
According to Logical Increments they are "Excellent".
>>51979822
the guy that made loligags incrementally is a fuckin moron though.
>>51979626
I'm loving mine
Expensive though, but it feels like how it costs, no cheap feel
>>51961963
>paying more for less because gaymen addition
>not even comfortable design
>>51979811
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKGXiY7i1ak
According to these tests the newer ones aren't bad.
Not the very best, but not bad by any means.
>>51979711
>>51979741
it looks to be to do with this
http://cdn.overclock.net/c/cd/cd43a575_button_latency_testing_overall_141207.png
which was done by electronically triggering the switches
firmware seems like it could play a big part (for the deathadder 3g it had a variance of 7ms depending on which firmware you used)
unfortunately replicating such a test is very difficult, as you don't know what their exact setup was, so even if you test a mouse as 10ms, it might be equivalent to 0 or 20ms on their chart
my recommendation would be to use some human reaction testing software and alternate two different mice over a large number of trials and see if one has a real-world benefit or handicap
>>51979874
Compared to logitech theyre bad.
It only looks good because they were so insanely horrific before the update.
>>51980000
>Compared to logitech theyre bad.
It was only like 5 ms slower on average compared to the g300 which is supposedly some kind of baseline. Doesn't seem too bad.
Unless you're playing FPS at a competitive level where the prize pool is six figures or higher, it probably won't make a difference.
>>51980072
and they improved it by what? 8ms?
the old one is only 8ms slower, compared to the new ones.. doesent seem to bad
unless youre playing FPS at a competetive level where the prize pool is your mom or your sister, it probably wont make a difference.
>>51968835
Man, English is going down the drain fast.
>>51972289
You'll still have to deal with a lot less latency that your average opponent:
>20ms mouse
>60Hz 4ms display
>FPS dips
>DSL
That's what, 60ms more than you? Add an artificial 60ms to your game, and tell me you don't notice.
>>51980207
How so? I would consider this an improvement.
Isn't it kind of nice/ to instantly be able to tell if someone is talking about the rodent or the computer peripheral just form the word itself?
Now they just need to find an alternative word for singular as well.
>>51979822
That's only the precision rating, as in, how accurate the sensor is.
Do not buy anything less than 'perfect'. Those mice are the only ones that translate mouse movement into cursor movement accurately at all speeds and in all directions.
Good thing I have a Zowie AM then.
>>51962302
>lol I'm insulting someone
>lol I'm telling them to get >>>/out/
>lol I can't even link or name boards
>lol
into the >>>/trash/ with you!
>>51980297
I hope you realize that the average pleb can't detect anything below 6-8ms. Only fighter plots and the like are actually able to benefit from 1ms displays.
>>51980356
>Do not buy anything less than 'perfect'.
But I can't find anything with that rating…Excellent seems to be the highest tier.
>>51961963
>Owned an early 2014 FK
>LEM in CSGO
>Upgraded to a new revision white FK2 3 weeks ago
>Almost instantly got SMFC
It just werks
>>51980442
>>Upgraded to a new revision white FK2 3 weeks ago
>your face when it got an even newer revision like 2 weeks ago
>>51980409
You're retarded, that's not how it works.
What it tell you is how long the pixels on the display need to change colour.
If you have a 60Hz display with 4ms response time, your display will show shifting colours for 4ms, and the accurate image for 12 ms (response time varies on what colour and how much it has to shift, so this is just averages), and if you have a 60Hz display with 1ms, it'll show the shifting of colours for 1ms, and the real image for 15ms, which leads to much higher clarity, and faster processing of the displayed information. Also, it arrives 3ms earlier.
>>51980438
That's odd, last time I checked there were perfects in there. Anyway, don't buy a mouse which doesn't have a perfect sensor. Use other sources to double check the models you like.
>>51961963
>brain doesn't synapse
>synapse is gap between two neurons.
>>51980470
What?
>>51980316
The number of instances this isn't given by context is so small that adding 'computer' before mice to specify is preferable to extending the vocabulary. Increasing the complexity of a language while it doesn't carry an appropriate amount of additional information is not how language should develop.
>>51980499
Zowie just seems like the only brand available that has good performance and doesn't look riced to all hell.
Even if there is some gaymen tier mouse that supposedly has a more perfect sensor, I probably wouldn't get it…
>>51980523
You bought the "new" revision 3 weeks ago but as of like 2 weeks that is not new anymore.
There's an even newer revision now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Up1SZplv7d0
>>51980550
G303 no good? It's like the best 'plain' mouse on the market right now.
>>51980577
>It's like the best 'plain' mouse on the market right now
Is this b8?
It looks like a literal UFO man.
>>51980566
>New scroll wheel and buttons
The old buttons were something I really liked about zowies, so whatever, this is better.
>>51980592
How can you be sure? That model might be great, but the new ones might be *even better*.
>>51980477
>it's how long the pixels take to change colors
And I'm telling you that you most likely are unable to tell the difference between anything under 6-8 and 6-8.
>>51980607
The old switches used to be hit or miss, some people hated how stiff they were and how much resistance they had while some people like me loved them.
>>51979622
i actually didnt notice the input lag on that thing until I started getting into csgo. i tried plugging it back in to play the gw2 expansion and couldn't handle it...
>>51980586
You can turn the light off and it will be entirely black, with the only accent being a clear plastic on the back.
>>51980617
Oh yes you can. You absolutely can unless you display 24 FPS content.
>>51966437
>m1 fire
>m2 secondary
>m3 irons
>m4/5 switch to last weapon/fire select
>m4/5 voice chat
It's plenty useful
>muh games
>>51980651
>You can turn the light off and it will be entirely black
Just no. I'd prefer something that is ACTUALLY entirely black, not just turned off to give the illusion of being so.
And what about the freaking mesh on the sides? Probably looks shit with or without lights on.
>refresh models will use omron switches
>but 16 step scroll wheels
Literally why? I was thinking of getting the new EC1-A, but having 16 step scroll wheels is a stupid decision. Many people who buy Zowie mice play CS:GO, and you use the scroll wheel to bhop.
I hope there's still time for Zowie to change their minds.
>gaymen mice with 10000DPI
Why do people want their heartbeat to move the mouse?
I use 1800 here and I find it too sensitive sometimes.
>>51980731
>why do people have different tastes
>my preference should suit everyone
You realize there is probably someone as stupid as you out there running 200 DPI and has the same to say about your 1800 right?
>>51955292
everyone's brain synapses fast enough you fucking idiot
Your brain alters your perception to compensate for things like consistent delays. If it doesn't, and you DO notice extremely short input delays on things you use every single day, then you have literal brain problems and should see a doctor. Luckily for you, you're probably just shitposting
>>51980751
But I tried using 10000. It's almost impossible to make it stay still, unless you put some crazy deceleration.
I don't see why "gaming" mouses are advertised with that, it's literally impossible to aim. I doubt you will find any "pro player" which uses something so sensitive.
The human brain has a 80ms delay, basically everything you see and think is current actually happened 80ms ago.
just saying in case people don't know
>>51980776
And I'm sure someone would say "But I tried using 1800".
Just because it isn't for you doesn't mean it's bad.
>>51980810
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1n8wdUELFNHc2zaxvOTWw-DOkNF44i1MXzjfuJmn6rFg/pub?output=html
Most pro players don't even use it above 400.
Which is why it's fucking stupid for Razer and others to create 10000DPI mouse and advertise it as gaming mice.
>>51980566
>omrons
can't wait for zowie owners complaining that they're getting doubleclicks after 3 months
>>51980670
lol fag
>>51974987
>>51980512
>hyper literal grammar autists can't even into anthimeria conversion
>>51980845
>Most pro players don't even use it above 400.
Because there's never a situation where they need it.
I have OCD, and when I play games where you can place items, I need to be able to fine tune where the camera is facing to an unreasonable degree. When I did this with regular mice, the cameras did this "snapping" thing where the smallest possible incremental movement was too much. I'd spend tens of minutes just trying to get the camera in a spot that the cursor would snap to the point I wanted it to be in. Just so I could hang a virtual painting on the virtual wall of my virtual house.
>>51980731
I use 4000, and it's just about right.
I can cruise left side to right on my dual WQHD setup without having to move the wrist.
I'm using MarkC mouse fix at 1-to-1 translation, meaning my mouse covers 4000 pixels for ever inch of movement. It's moderately difficult to hit a specific pixel, but hitting the X of a window is easy. If I need finer grained movement I just lower CPI.
>>51980987
3" 360 master race
>>51980845
>Most pro players don't even use it above 400.
This is because CSGO pros are a bunch of cargo cult retards that don't actually understand that CPI is and that they can use 800 dpi and exactly half of the in-game sensitivity to achieve the same effective sensitivity as before. They also limit themselves to playing 1280x720 on a 24" monitor instead of playing 1920x1080 or 2560x1440 on a 27" monitor for the same viewing distance with greater FOV. They're fucking stupid, straight up.
>>51980845
>>51981285
>>51980987
From what I'm reading this is all based on some historical boogeyman whereby it was 'better' to play at 400cpi/2sens than 800cpi/1sens, and some vague things about 1.6/css having subtle negative effects below 1 in-game sensitivity.
I should try comparing the 6400/0.84375 I play at, and 400/13.5. Both should theoretically give me the same 3" 360. If anything would change, I'd expect the lower cpi to result in a larger minimum angle and perhaps to even skip pixels.
>>51965256
what's wrong with laser mice?
>>51981570
They were an immature technology and acquired a particularly bad rep for inherent acceleration/negative acceleration/click jitter/tracking issues/sensor failure/low max speed/etc. etc.
There's probably some decent lasers on the market nowadays, but they don't perform perceptably better than optical, and likely still have issues.
>>51981285
you want lower fov in csgo not higher you retard
>hello gyus im LE or worse and have opinions!!
>not using a comfy wireless mouse and gitting gud
Nice crutch.
>>51981626
The G303/G502 have a laser sensor, and it's the best sensor in the market right now.
But I agree, almost all laser sensors have issues. There are a handful of good optical sensors.
>>51968835
>>51967590
>>51967613
Fucking illiterate computer scientists ruin everything once they transfer over into computers
It's not fucking "mouses" it's mice
It's not fucking "matrixes" it's matrices
It's not fucking "vertexes" it's vertices (my fucking spell check even has this one backwards)
>>51982009
>you want lower fov in csgo not higher you retard
No, what you want is effectively larger targets to hit on your monitor. A 27" monitor gives you the same effective size with 16:9 as 24" with 4:3 and you get the benefit of increased FOV. You are one stupid, ignorant nigger.
>>51982797
wow good point you can also use binoculars to look at the center of your screen
>hehe im le counter trolling too :) :)
>not the g400s
Git gud any time literally.
>>51961963
>he doesn't play on a curved 4k monitor
>>51982871
>wow good point you can also use binoculars to look at the center of your screen
Yeah, because using binoculars is totally reasonable unlike using a 27" monitor. You are one buttblasted faggot and have no leg to stand on in this argument.
>>51982988
neither do you shitposting retard
>>51983028
>being this butthurt
So what's the superiorest mouse? Bloody TL8 Terminator ?
>buying anything but logitech
I own a g600, g303, g400, g402, and g502.
>>51982989
youre both faggots arguing about the proper way to play your mature video games for mature gamers like yourselves.
>>51981626
Why does anything use laser, ever, if optical is better?
>>51981561
>>51981285
I just tested this. Same 3" 360, but 400/13.5 skips a ton of pixels, while 6400/0.84 doesn't skip shit.
>>51985041
>I just tested this. Same 3" 360, but 400/13.5 skips a ton of pixels, while 6400/0.84 doesn't skip shit.
This makes perfect sense. Higher sampling rate means higher precision and accuracy.
>>51972130
I got one of those and had some build quality issues with it.
>>51979822
logical increments has a shit peripheral section
some would say the whole site is shit, but the pc part recommendations aren't the worst thing ever
>>51980670
>irons
okay, kid
>>51970090
You dont know shit. Server updates status 64 ticks per second. Local user input speed doesnt change. Physics at server side do.
>>51986487
uh if it's a 128 tick server and your client rates are 128+, then yes shit does change
>>51969594
One of the best competition players i know uses a 1990's ball mouse with two buttons. The day he kicked the ass of me and 14 other people at a lan i stopped caring about 'best' hardware.
>>51973571
I have steelseries rival, why would you change yours?
>>51967088
deathadders are complete shit. double cliking and auto scrolling after 2 months use, then paint started coming off a month later.
bros deatadder did the same fucking double clicking out of the box.
>>51972130
>one of the best sensors on the market
ya but g400s and deathadder ha THE best sensors.
>>51986828
I'll give you the deathadder black edition's stupid coating eroding with sweat over the yearsm but aside from that it's shown no problems since I got it in 2012.
My deathadder 2013 on the other hand has been fine since I got it in 2013.
>have original zowie fk since >2013
>always gets knocked around in my bag when i visit friends
>still works flawlessly
>no paint chipping/material degradation
>its comfy
>dont even "game"
I have an old fk. Is there a way to update the firmware to the newer, low latency version?
>>51988321
Which Zowie should I get?
What is the difference between the ZA, FC, and FK?
Just bought a redragon mammoth for Xmas, hoping it will be better then my Razer naga that started to have clicking problems after 6 months. Any insight on the brand? Had the least 1 star reviews on Amazon.
daily reminder that if you buy a zowie you're literally spending $80 for a $20 mouse
>>51970987
>G303
show us the shell you dorkus
>>51961963
>$20 G300 still going strong after nearly five years.
>>51990184
Tl;dr version:
>FK
Ambidextrous claw or fingertip grip
>EC
Right handed palm grip
>ZA
Ambidextrous palm grip
Of course, you can use any other grip if you really want to.
>>51990626
Ah I see thanks.
I use a hybrid grip, but only because mice are generally too short for my hand.
The "gaming" mouse I bought cost me 7ish dollars on amazon, it has a couple extra buttons and the cable has cloth to keep it from tangling. I have absolutely no idea why anyone would have a problem with it.
What do you guys think of vertical ergonomic mice? Someone in my area is selling one.
http://inlandempire.craigslist.org/sys/5370646710.html
>>51962302
Huh! You got him bro! High five bro! Lets go play ultimate frisbee now bro, if you dont have a visor you can borrow mine bro.
