>you can access knowledge of the whole humanity
>books, movies, and videogames
>millions of people in the world do it every day
>completely free
So, how are libraries still legal? pic unrelated
Not sure what youre point is.
>>51959456
Libraries are like torrents, but libraries are legal.
It's kinda dumb and kinda smart at the same time.
>>51959604
No, libraries are like Spotify. You have to pay a monthly/yearly fee.
>>51959622
not in socialist utopias like finland
>>51959622
>he has to pay for libraries
What 3rd-world shithole are you in?
>>51959456
You are*
>>51959636
>>51959643
what are taxes
>>51959636
Sie oot niin vitun tyhmä saatanan hikikomori.
What are taxes u fucking idiotic neet scum
>>51959812
>tfw don't pay a penny in taxes
feels great
@51959883
fuck off neet
>>51959419
>you can access knowledge of the whole humanity
>people still don't, every single day
>people still ignorant fucks
>Huxley was right
>>51959622
Seriously? This is a thing somewhere?
>>51959908
We've reached a point where there is too much information which most people try to consume in a very short period of time.
>>51959604
>Libraries are like torrents
Except you don't get to keep whatever you took from the library.
>>51959622
>paying for libraries
What the actual fuck?
>>51960331
So torrents are superior to libraries?
>>51959604
>>51959419
They are not, you genius. Libraries are based on renting and not on just taking and keeping of shit. You twat.
>>51960331
what is stopping you from scanning each and every book you get from the library?
>>51960377
Not everyone here is NEET and got time to scan hundrets and thousands of pages.
>>51960332
This.
>>51959812
Ah, I guess your taxes to go muh military and muh cops instead of education
>>51960355
>Library
>Renting
What ? Libraries are based on borrowing. For free. You don't rent shit at a library.
>>51960407
>hundred and thousands of pages
I think he implied that you have to scan what you can actually read and not keep the scan to show off that you are a "binge reader".
>>51960448
Sorry mistaken the words renting and borrowing. Just woke up. (And its not my mother language) Thanks for putting correcting my point.
>>51960477
>putting correcting
are you just projecting now?
>>51960501
:^)
>>51959812
i have no job, make no money, yet still are allowed to borrow books
so while the library runs with tax money, it's not with my money
>>51960434
wot
Libraries aren't free, they are funded by tax money. Being a Britbong, I get taxed heavily and part of those taxes go to funding libraries.
>>51960355
so it's cool if i download a tv show/movie, watch it, and delete it when i'm done?
>>51960233
Nah I just don't live in a shithole.
>>51960331
>>51960355
No, the library doesn't give you a copy to keep.
Libraries are government services that the citizens pay for with taxes. Nothing is free.
>>51960761
>when i'm done?
We moved onto porn libraries pretty quickly.
>>51961544
Piracy is.
>>51960739
This board requires you to be 18 or older
>>51961561
>paying for internet access
you BORROW a book from a library, not take it away forever
>>51961999
That's just paying for the roads you use to get to the library.
>>51959812
So, taxes should go to paying for free internet. I'm all for it.
>>51961999
>paying for electricity
>>51962011
You don't take anything away when you download it either.
>>51960331
>it's illegal to photocopy a book for personal use, or copy it word for word by hand
>>51959419
>using a picture of cUckTorrent
>>51961974
that's correct
>>51962056
>missing the point
>being a faggot
This thread is a discussion on the comparison between the wealth of knowledge and information shared via p2p online with the classical institution of libraries. But we get it, you like books mostly for the pictures.
Most libraries are incredibly restrictive, especially university libraries. Libraries also do not like working with other libraries unless it means building their own collection a significant amount.
There is a lot of bureaucracy and politics in libraries, they are not benevolent places doing everything for the good of the public. They are even worse than museums.
And if you need something highly specialized or actually useful from a library the chances of it being on a p2p network are low as fuck.
>>51962020
I'm currently using a tax-funded ISP. The actual network is fast (I get gigabit speeds from access points that the ISP has control over), but for some reason, they've decided to hand over the responsibility of routing traffic to individual apartments to the landlords. They, in turn, respond by investing in the shittiest equipment they can get their hands on, which essentially kills the network on any hint of congestion.
Because of the division into a private and public actor, there is nowhere to complain, since they both keep shifting the blame on each other.
The landlords have no incentive to upgrade their equipment: The cost of maintaining their end of the network is added to the housing bill, regardless of whether you use the network or switch to ADSL, which is the only other option.
The ISP has no incentive, or ability, to make their network actually usable by everyone: On paper, it looks like they've fulfilled their part of the deal, which is to bring free Internet to everyone in the city. You also can't vote with your wallet, since it's run by a government agency.
Tax-funded Internet could work in practice, but it requires actually well-thought out agreements between the landlords and government, so things like this don't happen.
No one ever owns anything downloaded.
>>51962347
Sure I do. I even have the moral right of copying it wherever I want.
>>51962290
This sounds like the same problem with universal health care. The key word here is "incentive". We won't see much improvement so long as profit is the sole driving motive behind production and service.
>>51962056
>utorrent
>not microtorrent
Wew lad
>>51961974
/r9k/ doesn't always stay in it's containment board
>>51960761
Imply a bit harder. Pls.
If you download them with the permission of the copyright holder, watch it and then delete it, that would be fine.
>>51960355
I'm fairly certain that libraries are (at least in my country) heavily funded by taxes, too.
There is no way the small fees actually cover their costs.
>>51964530
In what Direction are you going with that argument?
>>51959856
>saatanan
Get out of here you sect loonie
>>51959419
>libraries supposedly does what piracy does
Nice false analogy, anon.
/g/entoomen, the reasoning skills of the average IT pro.
>>51966765
Exactly this.
>>51959419
>>51959604
>>51959643
wow are people this retarded
>>51959419
2.2.1 Masterrace reporting in!
>>51960761
Yes, because there is nothing preventing you from buying it if you liked it.
>>51959419
All I know is that torrenting activity is going to go private. It has to considering the hostile nature of the TPP that is about to be passed and signed by the American Pres
>>51959901
>@51959883
>@
>>51962347
>property is theft
>therefore theft is property.
>>51960467
If I recall correctly, scanning entire chapters and sections at the local library through their scanner is technically legal. Some educational institutions put limits to cover their own asses, and many bookscanners have copyright notices on the software or posted nearby for legal formality.
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2015/10/appeals-court-rules-that-google-book-scanning-is-fair-use/
http://copyright.library.virginia.edu/classroom-scanning/
>>51970778
However, this covers private use only. Copyright infringement law is intended to concern itself with published works that infringe copyright, and personal use does not violate that per se. Hence DVRs and TiVO are legal. Aereo isn't because it redistributed a stream.
>>51959419
It's not free. They pay a license for most of those books. It's paid for with donations, charities and tax dollars.
God damn you're fucking stupid.
>>51959901
Nobody here uses @ we use >>
>>51967876
sure, but i never watch a movie/tv show twice
>>51962434
>We won't see much improvement so long as profit is the sole driving motive behind production and service.
That wouldn't be a problem if you could, as Anon said, vote with your wallet. The problem is the fusion of private and public sector brings out the worst qualities in both, rather than the best. The combination of greed (private) and incompetence (public/government) leads to some pretty wacky set-ups.
>>51959908
If everyone can readily know everything, there's no reason to know anything.
>>51970884
That depends. In Sweden, they only pay licenses for books by Swedish authors. Foreign books are fair game. I'd assume the same goes for most other countries.
