Will your job be safe from automation?
I don't think you can automate sitting at home all day playing video games and smoking weed so I should be good.
>tfw translator
i will be the first one to lose my job
>>51955113
I program and design robots.
>>51955157
If Google translate is any indication, you have nothing to worry about.
Civil engineer, the best thing would be to automate most of it. someone has to take responsability and check the calculations and designs. But I would be more than happy if computers were able to design and calculate for me with just a few inputs. optimized for economy and enviromental conditions and that sort of jazz.
>>51955147
NEETs are the future of humanity, someday most of us will be living just like you.
>>51955256
I'm practicing for the future.
>>51955157
Only when AR glasses become the norm in society, until then you'll be safe.
>>51955270
HTC's Vive along with a bluetooth connected fleshlight and some coconut oil will do wonders. Lead the way anon.
>>51955157
Nah, we need a strong AI to replace oral and written translators. By the time they replace you, programmers and doctors will also be finished and bankrupt.
The tech singularity will arrive around 2050 so you still have a good 34 more years of being useful.
>>51955157
No, computers still can't handle the nuances in languages.
>>51955313
In computers' defense, neither can most people.
>>51955329
lol tru
No because my job is shit and I get minimum wage cucked because I got fired from my good job
I teach users how to use, so im pretty safe.
I'm an electrical engineer in the semiconductor industry. If anything, I'd be the one working to automate things.
>>51955157
languages evolve too
>>51955329
True that.
If any of you are working fast food you're fucked.
>tfw electrical and electronic engineer
I can't fucking wait for more automation
>>51955290
>fleshlight and oil
How about fucking no
How will we get money?
>>51955423
Google Bitcoins.
>>51955423
We won't. Eventually machines will replace human labor and unless they gain consciousness, will let us all lead neet lifestyles.
>>51955453
Then how will we eat and afford to go places?
There must be a way to get some sort of income.
>>51955113
>Psychologist/Psychotherapist
Yep.
>>51955472
I think he's envisioning a future in which communism actually works and happens.
>>51955453
>let us
If by us you you mean the people who own them (not you) then yes.
>>51955472
Everything will be automated and free (to an extent). This is again assuming machines don't gain consciousness and fucking murder us all.
I work in an automotive warehouse for a major American car manufacturer. There are no exact measurements or scenarios in the warehouse. Ever. Creating the conveyor system required to get parts out of 50k+ locations would be a nightmare. Possible? Yes. Will they? No. Companies don't look for excess expenditure unless they know there will be a pay back from it.
Making robots smart enough to dodge debris, handle a broken pallet located 30ft up without dropping 2 tons of rotors, etc would all take an insane amount of time and effort to fully automate.
So no. Not for the next 25 years at least unless we make a HUGE leap forward with self learning bi-pedal robots with 50% the free range movement and thinking skills of even an average human being.
>tfw comfy making my $29.50/hr lifting boxes for my entire day with full paid benefits, awesome bonuses throughout the year, and several weeks paid vacation
>>51955113
My job is automation.
I work for the machines now
>>51955487
>a future in which communism actually works and happens.
Then it would have to be a drastic overhaul in every conceivable way because relying on government for proper support never works. Perhaps Capitalism and Socialism will merge into come where corporations provide for the people.
>shitty frontend web developer
I highly doubt it. I need to learn some other stuff like real programming.
machines don`t have taste so cooks are not going to become outdated ever.
>>51955510
Google predicts that in less than 15 years artificial intelligence will be indistinquishable from humans meaning they'll be able to interpret their environment just like us.
No job is safe. Perhaps humanity is meant to transcend this era of "working" and focus on other pursuits such as exploration of the universe, mind to mind telepathy and creating worlds in VR to explore our inner most desires.
Similar to how humanity retired the horse for work... so will we to ourselves.
>>51955617
Sounds scary as fuck
>>51955617
>Similar to how humanity retired the horse for work
into the salami?
>>51955538
Look up corporatism. A main ideal in fascism.
>>51955510
You realize that the system currently in place works because it was designed for humans right? Wait until your company opens a facility built from the ground up with robotic automation in mind.
fucking worthless unions member's heads will roll
>>51955113
>Unemployed
I'm good, can't automate doing nothing.
Toilets will always need to be unblocked, so I'm safe.
Im a commercial flat roofer, I imagine some day there will be roofing robots, but I can't really see it for a while yet. Shingling will probably be automated before what I do does, I dont think it would end up being cheaper or quicker really until robotics improves quite a bit. Also with how ridiculous safety has gotten in the last 10 years, especially in my industry, the red tape they'd have to get through to allow for automated roofing robots will be enormous.
I work in a factory with tons of robots --- I used to think robots were the shit but I've come to appreciate human hands.
Lots of finesse, smart nudging, knowing where to pull/push just right so that the pins snap into place. Would be p easy to just have a robot smash everything down but then you'd get a 60% defect rate from bent pins or risk damaging an $800 board.
I do look forward to the day when robots replace my job, hopefully by then I'll be the one designing and fixing them.
Architect, doubt we wont be touched by automation (BIM is already part of most offices workflow), but it's more likely to be the engineers / contractors that get taken out of the equation entirely.
I'm sure we'll see a lot more machine-designed buildings but I doubt we'll be automated out - but then I can't think of reasons why we couldn't be.
>>51955745
>I'm good, can't automate doing nothing.
My Wii has been doing that for years. It's so automatic at it, it wasn't even plugged in for six months, and we didn't notice. :(
>>51955538
>implying you are not relying on the government for proper support as we type these posts
you're an idiot especially if you're an american
the american government already does so much for the american people in terms of clothing them and feeding them. it would actually cost the government less money to be socialist than to be capitalist like today.
>>51955113
only because it would be more expensive to design and fabricate a machine to do it than it would to pay me for a decade.
>>51955487
Communism would probably work pretty well if we have computers doing literally everything. We are all NEETs that get NEETbux from the government to spend at automated grocery stores and buy electronics and clothes and shit. People getting killed over things like shoes will become commonplace though. Not because they can't afford the shoes though. But because there will be groups of people that side with certain companies and people who wear all Nike apparel will go to war with people who wear all Adidas. People need a reason to compete.
>>51955157
Nope.
Shouldn't the goal of any civilized society be to raise unemployment? Automating everything is a good thing. People bitched when them darn conveyor belts put factory workers out of jobs, or those wacky tractors put farmers out of work. Yet still we move forward. There will always be shit to do.
>>51955113
>currently a web dev
People have been trying since http was a thing and I'm still dramatically overpaid for simple as shit work while dreamweaver remains a joke.
Not sure my current gig is completely immune to automation (I mean I employ a lot of tooling to make thing easier, at some point configuring that shit is going to be as much of a job as what I do now (that is to say, not much of one)) but I'm capable of doing much more complicated/interesting work when someone is willing to pay me sufficiently for it so I don't see any real issues around automation in my natural lifespan.
>>51955609
I heard IBM's Watson can come up with some pretty good recipes. Preparing them is another story though.
>>51955892
>mfw communism leads to the shilling wars
>>51955916
People can't seem to grasp the concept life without the goal of earning money
>>51955538
Have you checked the time ?
Because it's about time you killed yourself, faggot.
>>51955113
My job is to automate machines, so I think it is
>>51955113
I automate shit, so yee.
>>51955534
Same. I do automated testing, so unless they automate automation, I think we're fine.
>>51955113
Literally no job is completely safe from automation.
>muh singularity
>>51956557
Not literature & poetry
>>51955147
>tfw you cannot be replaced my a machine and therefore you are truly human
>>51956369
Testing of what ?
If it's code, then formally verifiable languages will be the death of unit and integration testing. UI/UX is a different matter, tho.
>Engineer/Operations manager
Nope. Technology and machines make my job eaier, but won't replace me.
>>51956567
That's cute. You think computers won't eventually emulate the human mind.
pic VERY related
My job is creating automation, so until they automate that, yeah.
>>51956599
>Operations Manger
Tell us more anon
>>51955113
>lawyer
My job is even safer than prostitution
>>51955472
There is something called "basic income"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basic_income
>>51955166
Then robots with ai will design themselves and not needing human intervention anymore
I shitpost on /g/ . No robot is ever replacing me
>>51956714
M8, most of the things lawyers do is already being automated.
>2d/3d modeler/animator for porn animations bothj human/fur
I kinda doubt it but we'll see.
>>51955472
Basically eugenics will make a new rise. Are you smart enough to be employed? You keep your reproductive rights. otherwise you get castrated and removed from the genepool in exchange for comfort for the rest of your life.
>>51956714
>lawyer
Just wait until machines can interpret human emotions.
Say goodbye to your job and hello to being a NEET.
My job is automation. P sure im fine.
>>51955113
Yes. I automate other people's jobs.
>>51955113
right now, I do stock-keeping
any kind of warehouse shit will probably be fully automated within the next 30 years
mind you, I expect to have a proper job by then (really, I'd expect to have been in several), this is just side shit while I'm in uni
>>51955617
>Google predicts that in less than 15 years artificial intelligence will be indistinquishable from humans
>strong AI
>15 years off
Doesn't seem likely, but maybe that's just pessimism.
>>51956937
Your job is safe from automation, but it isn't safe from Indian or Chinese people willing to do your job for $4/day
There's a logical problem to automating the automators, until a programmer is so self knowledgeable that he is enlightened by any sense of the word, it's impossible.
>>51956953
Fortunately, they want to have a real English speaking person do the job.
>>51955273
Ayy lmao
No, my job is to automate things
>>51956951
>any kind of warehouse shit will probably be fully automated within the next 30 years
>30 years
https://youtu.be/quWFjS3Ci7A
>>51956567
Arts jobs would still be put at risk unless you are the height of your field. Automated labor and trading means less people to pay for your shit.
Game Tester
Safe from automation, though not safe from the fact that game testing is a shit job
>>51955757
>implying robots can't unblock toilets
General Medic
How long do I have until webmd bots replace my ass?
>>51955361
ITS ALREADY HAPPENING!
>Watching some terrible movie
>Effy's in it
>Look her up on Wikipedia
>She's less than a year older than me and has already accomplished so much
>I'm a 22-year-old NEET that lays in bed all day doing absolutely nothing with myself
>Realising this means nothing as I'll never be bothered to change
>People half my age are more successful than I'll ever be
>People born after the year 2000 are having sex right this very moment
>I am alone
I hope automation takes everyone's jobs away. That way I'll feel less envious of others. Then I hope sex robots get popular so less people are having sex so I feel even less envious.
>>51955113
where is the picture taken from? I would love such a picture without the glass but do not know how to search for it
Can't wait to live in a world without work. During monarchy, being idle was the patrician hobby.
>>51956714
AI will do your job
1000x times faster
10000x times cheaper
>>51955113
Programmer, safe untill real AI turns out to be smart
>>51955113
programming, so i guess i'm safe for the foreseeable future. but i might end up making the automation of other people's jobs happen.
i dont even have a job so that means i win
>>51955113
I will do the automation.
Or at least I was told.
Property Management is safe for a long time. The human connection between a property owner and tenant cannot be bridged by a machine. I won't complain if homes start to automatically maintenance themselves better though.
>>51955113
>Work at a bookstore
So far I'm safe.
>>51955113
No, I work IT support and idorts will always fuck up their systems
>>51955113
What do you have to do to live in a appartment like this?
also I'm automotive engineer, right now I do autonomous features because everyone is hype about it.
>computer science
I feel pretty safe, good developers will always be in demand. I go to a top-tier school and my peers are pretty retarded when it comes to programming, so I should be good.
Electrician here. Nobody's going to build a fully automated robotic electrician without hard AI.
>>51961568
You college peers are only the starting point. You still have to compete with the rest of the workforce.
>>51961591
I've heard there is a shortage of competent developers.
And I can see why, so many people just copy paste the answer from stack overflow, and blindly fix the compile errors until it runs. These people squeak by and pass the courses and get a degree. If this is the case at my top-tier school, I can only imagine the type of programmers being churned out by degree mills.
Now I'm not saying my code is perfect, but I understand why I wrote it and why it should work. I can even write working code on paper which a lot of my peers struggle with. The only thing that would hold me back is my interviewing skills, but I've got time to work on it.
>>51956819
haha.
>>51961728
I also read this trend in an article, but imho, if you are interested in what you do, you always try to understand what you use.
>>51961860
This is true. However a lot of people go into this program because of either "I wanna make video games" or "muh 6 figure starting salary" and just plow through university.
The schools are at fault for letting these people obtain degrees, but I doubt they care cause its money for them.
Soldier. I'll be okay.
Robot soldiers when?
>>51955113
My job is to build and maintain automation
>>51962130
>maintain automation
A script could do that.
>>51961932
>Robot soldiers when?
Umm, now?
>>51962143
And when business practice changes, who changed the script, numbnuts?
>programmer
Th-They can't program themselves, can they?
>>51955113
I work in sales, selling holidays. people will always want to buy from people, so i think im safe. plus i work for a very technology focused company, making my job easier through tech, meaning i sell more
>>51962188
By that time the script will change itself.
Some people will always want porn, and they won't always want the same porn.
I'm not as pretty as a rendered 2D waifu, or as consistent as some future sexbot, but we aren't there yet, and even if we were, there will always be niches, and maybe they'd be sustainable.
I'm also retired, so there's that.
>>51955113
watch interstellar
>>51955113
Yes
> I install/configure/upgrade/repair software and OS
> I repair/replace/upgrade hardware
I'm gonna try and get into med school desu.
Failing that, I'd be pretty content being NEET
>>51956760
At that point everyone will be useless though.
>>51962284
THERES ALREADY SYSTEMS THAT DO THIS automatically
>>51962284
this is literally the first to go
>>51956937
This is what I want to do.
>>51956812
It has already been done though.
Aw ye nigga, I'm an artist, good luck making something creative, you fucking tin cans.
>>51962284
lol is this post a joke
>>51962429
If you knew you'd be afraid.
>>51962224
And who would write the script to update the script? Are you seriously trying this hard?
>>51955273
Who is this cum cajoler?
>>51962461
>And who would write the script to update the script
The fucking script will. How are you not getting this? You will write one script, be fired and the script will take care of itself from then on.
>>51962486
I think this wont be possible untill real AI is developed, and there is much more years before this happens, there is too much h-cases for a simple script to build itself nowdays
>>51955157
I remember a radiolab piece about subtle differences in language, even regionally. I forget the exact details but I think the example they used was how "what do you plan to do about this?" having a different meaning in South Africa than other English speaking countries where it's less of a question and more of a demand.
>safe from automation
That sounds a bit silly doesn't it? When robots perform 90% of the world's labor; we get to sit home and consume. That sounds alright to me.
Vehicle Technician
My job can't be replaced by machines, BUT cars using electric drivetrains will probably mean I have less stupid cunts who cannot fathom how a combustion engine works endless bullshit to deal with
>>51955113
Programmer
Safe forever
no but my company will never put money into automation
>implying any job is safe from superior robots
absolute delusion
>>51955423
Ideally everything would be either rationed or produced fast enough that everyone can have whatever they want
>>51956714
>Safer than prostitution
>He thinks prostitution is safe
Lmao
>>51955113
Bookie.
So yes.
Maybe. I write automation testing scripts for software.
The drones of society won't have any reason to live if they're unemployed. I work with people who said if they had no job they wouldn't know what to do with their life... that's how pathetic peoples lives have become.
>robot sports
This would be shit, everyone else, it's over.
>>51964408
Maybe the AI writes it.
>unemployed
Can't automate that which by definition is static, immobile and unchanging.
>>51964482
I'm pretty sure true AI is impossible. If that ever happened then no job is out of reach from it.
>>51955113
im a zipline tour guide... so i doubt my job is at risk of being automated. i am human.
i would assume so considering i fix machines on a production line.
>>51962228
Give name plox. I must fap
>>51962429
Are you a writer?
check this:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racter
Poet?http://www.languageisavirus.com/automatic_poetry_generator.html#.VnbcingrLQo
Musician?http://computoser.com/
"Visual artist"?http://thecreatorsproject.vice.com/blog/siebren-versteegs-computer-generated-abstract-paintings
Your digital competitors are here right now. Tomorrow they will knock you and your mates out from the business
>>51964495
Question is... can we replicate consciousness?
Robots don't drink all day
>>51955538
>relying on government for proper support never works.
Relying on human corruptible government never works.
I hope politics and the law branch of the state become the first to get fully replaced with bots.
>>51961083
>>I'm a 22-year-old NEET that lays in bed all day doing absolutely nothing with myself
Well that's your first issue little buddy. Once you get over that then you'll have a much higher chance at doing better in life.
>>51956760
Not likely at all.. Chill out nerd.
>>51961464
amazon took your job like 10 years ago
>>51964636
Well, the problem with that is that you'd end up with each party fielding their own bots to advance their own agendas in the most efficient way possible. This would result in a situation very similar to an AI-only game of chess or tic-tac-toe: a perfect and total stalemate.
>>51955113
DevOps is immune from automation, as application devs wouldn't make any money if their product is too easy to set up.
Music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pBgMBBsv4k
>>51955113
>Google and supa AI's come to life with VR
>Shit gets drastically more complicated with overlaying real time back up solutions and real time database fixing with a matrix of systems.
>Even where there is big system there is no 1GBPS internet and mobile processors in 20 years to keep up as even if there are they will be stifled by an overlapse of technology that isn't well regulated such as too many overlaying wireless signals and places that have old network equipment
>more people seem more content with not working now and reside to shit jobs and lesser fulfillment now
>Someone has to maintain all these fucking systems googley eyes is not a system admin
My job is safe.
>>51955216
>But I would be more than happy if computers were able to design and calculate for me with just a few inputs. optimized for economy and enviromental conditions and that sort of jazz.
it already exists, only that I reckon you are not versed enough in that field. since we do a lot of coding of parametric algorithms.
>>51964558
>http://computoser.com/
the fuck, this is good. would be cool if you can download the tracks, it just made a cool one I would like to use as a wake up alarm it named it "Glamour Cares About Blind Everything".
>my job
Lel.
>>51962371
>>51962380
>>51962454
Really? Is there some bipedal robot running around helping Dorthy in accounting when her internet stops working? I didn't know windows server configured itself to automatically meet company needs. Since when does a computer replace its own hard drive when it starts to fail?
> first to go my ass
>tfw NEET
Feels good that I don't have to worry about the job market
Keep working hard wagies!
I create and develop personal development programs for high school youth.
I hope I'm safe.
>>51968242
Is that solar panel optimization?
Michael?
>>51955273
>obvious NYC in the background
>simple hair and spergtastic urbanoutfitters jacket
tell me how I know some cumslut from NYU took this picture.
>>51964558
>BILL. I love a child.
>MARCELA. Children are fortunately captivating.
>BILL. Yet my love is excellent.
>MARCELLA. My love is spooky yet we must have a child, a spooky child.
>BILL. Do you follow me?
>MARCELLA. Children come from love or desire. We must have love to possess children or a child.
>BILL. Do we have love?
>MARCELLA. We possess desire, angry desire. But this furious desire may murder a child. It may be killing babies someday.
>BILL. Anyway let's have a child.
>MARCELLA. My expectation is children.
>BILL. They will whisper of our love.
>MARCELLA. And our perpetual, enrapturing, valuable fantasy.
Awesome
>>51957164
That was mesmerizing. Thank you, anon.
>>51955423
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basic_income
Basic income. Basically it means that everyone gets free money.
I think some form of it is inevitable, because in the future there just simply won't be enough jobs for the amount of people there is. Many jobs will be killed by automation/technology, and there's a rising population.
>>51955609
They could have one cook design all the dishes on a menu, then have a fully automated kitchen cook them.
Chefs/cooks are one of the easier things to replace.
>TFW electrician/IT/Networking/Programing specialist.
>Tfw no robot has the power to do all of this in a single unit.
Yeah AI is going to crack languages pretty soon
>http://www.technologyreview.com/news/544651/baidus-deep-learning-system-rivals-people-at-speech-recognition/
>>51956714
Prostitution will get BTFO in the next 20 years.
>>51955477
You need to have a job before you lose it.
>>51964630
>>51968361
You can dl links at bottom of page
I'm a contractor.
My future is ensured because rich people inordinately love the MIC beyond its actual value. Automation will not change this.
if all these robots are going to replace so many positions, isn't it important how money is split between society in the future? Not just automation either here, just general advancements in technology will wipe out a lot of jobs.
>>51969647
If there's a basic universal income then it must be enough to pay for housing, food, transportation, and some form of recreational entertainment.
>>51970678
Companies are working on technology where you simply stand in front of a mirror at a store and it'll overlay the clothing on you perfectly, from there they have plans to then 3-D print the clothing right there on site. Dare I say roughly 90% of all people will be unemployed.
The problem is not "Can your job be replaced by a robot or AI", because there are plenty of niches that won't be replaced by automation for many decades.
The problem is the point where so many jobs are replaced by automation that unemployment makes a traditional economy unfeasible.
Even if you only replace very basic minimum-wage industries like truck drivers, that a massive amount of people out of work, earning no money, but still expected to function in a society that assumes you do. You can't pay these people a basic wage and expect everyone else to just deal with that, either. Its all or nothing.
>>51955866
>being this fucking retarted.
>Will your automation be safe from my job?
That's a nice robot you have there. Hope nothing bad happens to it.
>>51955113
if I ever graduate? yes.
mining engineers won't be replaced for quite some time.
>tfw unions have no more power and people have accepted that fact that large corporations are free to do whatever they like with the workforce
>>51971839
>HURR FREE MARKET ECONOMY RONALD REGAN!!!!
The idea of capitalism makes sense if we were living 50-100 years ago, but corporations today in some ways have more power than governments.
>>51955166
I'm sure you'll be nominated for the darwin award.
Unless a bunch of Pajeets can replace Finance jobs I think I am safe.
>>51971909
Perhaps my post didn't make it sufficiently clear, but I agree with you. Concentrations of power are the real enemy of the people. Corporations, empires, tyrannical governments, etc.
>>51971944
>Finance jobs
literally a monkey can replace finance jobs.
They're not even required for anything other than fraud.
>>51971944
Investment can be done by algorithms. Your field is being disrupted by bitcoin as we speak though, which is a form of automation.
>>51971974
I read it perfectly, it wasn't to mock you but a large portion of society.
>>51971975
Is that why so many have IB jobs? :^)
>>51972001
>Disrupted by bitcoin
Are you serious? Bitcoin is worthless unless you're buying heroin.
>Wake up
>Oh no i suddenly have 30% less money now because my memecoins dropped in value
>Try to make payment for something
>In 3 days price you paid either you overpaid by a significant margin or underpaid by a significant margin
>>51955510
The entire fucking world to date has been designed around the needs of humans. Robotics research got fucked for a long time because people for some autistic reason people keep getting caught up in humanoid shit. We don't need robots that can replace humans, doing everything we do, we just need robots that can create the same ends.
>>51955538
A robot sows wheat while another one waters the fields. A few months later another robot harvests the grain before taking it to the automated mill where it is turned into flour. Meanwhile a robotic miner is extracting aluminum to be sent to the foundries to create more machines. A robot selects your desired food from the shelf, all of it raised and picked by machines, and sends it on a drone to be delivered to your door.
In this world money is irrelevant as supply no longer requires monetary capital. Things just work.
>>51972040
>In this world money is irrelevant as supply no longer requires monetary capital. Things just work.
Try telling that to the drones of society who can't comprehend such a future.
They're the morons who still vote and think they contribute by paying taxes.
>>51972040
>not understanding economics
>muh post-scarcity
Everything you're describing is still a scarce resource unless it is something that everyone is in equal possession of. Instead, you will have large corporations that own a shit ton of capital (the means of production), and there is no reason for them to give this shit away for free. Expecting the government to control it all and keep up with the pace of technology - well, you can see how well that has worked out in the real world. Instead of corporations being subservient to the government it is the other way around.
>>51955916
The problem is that raising unemployment by a negligible amount hurts people. If you lay off one factory worth of workers, you may have progressed technologically but you also have dozens to hundreds of people unemployed who can no longer provide for their families.
Raising unemployment is only beneficial when the system is designed to give a positive life to those who are unemployed. In an ideal world sure, a high unemployment rate would be good, as long as those people don't have a need or want for any more money.
>>51970923
I'd say high level jobs are far more in danger than truck driving etc.
In the future every analyst/consultant type will be replaced by an algorithm that says, yes or no for every decision.
Only things that are safe are things that require human motor function basically, human design, or human creativity/judgement.
Basically if your job consists of mostly reports, binary recommendations, or really simple low level design or management you are fucked. To be honest though you were probably just office drone material to start with.
They will go so fast too once banks and corporations realize they can replace x person with a script.
Programmers will need to have a really specific skill set, although that's basically already happening. Everyone else is maintaining machines or production lines, just under different titles basically.
Anything other than that you'll need real power, eg politician, land owner, senior exec with share ownership
Electromechanical Design Engineer.
I'm the one that makes your jobs obsolete so yes
AI is a meme for at least the next 200 years
>>51972177
truck driving is going to be replaced in the next five years bro, bad example.
I doubt office drone jobs will be "replaced" though. Food for thought: http://strikemag.org/bullshit-jobs/
>>51955757
I have an unclogable toilet
>>51970702
yup that's what they're for
Yes
League of Legends professional player. Hacks is forbidden ÉNOIS MALUCO
>tfw cashier
>>51972344
>she's a "professional gaymer"
>>51972217
Great article,
Have so many friends, some of who believe their job is necessary. Some basically just do it for money.
Actually getting them to say "yeh the job I do isn't really that involved in anything" seems to be something most people rarely admit.
Walk into any bank and I'd guarantee you at least 70% of the positions could be replaced by an automated service. Some jobs are literally nothing more than "gib stamp of approval".
Thing is most of my friends just know that their best chance of a steady career job is those bullshit jobs.
Why would they want that? Easy, answer is women.
Like the article says there's a few exceptions, nurses/docs get paid well but the medical services are basically a racket now.
Sales is something you CAN get paid well in still but most rarely rarely do.
What's crazy is that with these bullshit jobs you're expected to mold your whole life around them too.. and people really do.
Wake up, kiss your trophy wife, kids.. well at this point you've had kids for all the wrong reasons, so I doubt they bring any joy really. Go into work, do nothing important whatsoever. After work go out with people you don't know because you dropped anyone outside the social circle of the office, pretend to be friends. Come home, uninspired sex. Watch TV or whatever else because nothing else to do, repeat, then you die..
What a fucking hollow existence.
>>51972132
Automation is fundamentally going to happen across fields because of the economic calculus that robots will (and if they can't yet, will in the near future) do just about everything that humans can do, better and cheaper.
Four outcomes are possible.
1. Corporations will adopt robots, displace large number of workers, and the government will raise taxes through the roof on corporations because they want the populace to not starve. Corporations lose. People happy.
2. The same thing could happen, but without the welfare. People stop buying products. Quality of life goes way down as the existing welfare system collapses. Starvation or revolt. Corps lose, people lose.
3. They keep paying their employees just so that their employees will be able to afford to buy their products. At that point, they're just running in circles, paying their employees just so the employees can pay them back. Corps stagnate, people stagnate.
4. Automation takes over and post-scarcity begins.
The robots are inevitable, and you can't run a business without employed citizens to pay you.
>>51955423
Has any anon seen the giver, I guess we'd be living like that.
>>51964494
Where is the one with the pimp hat + cane
Tech support at a supervisor level. I'm good. Retards will always retard.
>>51955113
Joining military hopefully as CA or SIGINT/HUMINT.
M-maybe, but probably not.
Can't enlist till feb so not sure on mos to be more specific.
>>51955147
>I don't think you can automate sitting at home all day playing video games and smoking weed so I should be good.
Akshually...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOCurBYI_gY
And a vacuum cleaner.
>>51972787
probably the most automated job ever
websites already have self-help tech sections etc, the days of ringing up a call center will soon be over once corporate eventually decide it isn't worth it
psychologist
maybe one day
>>51955617
HAAH WAAW
>>51974101
what kind of laugh ist that? You okay anon?
>>51955113
When AI is smart enough to design chemical plants I'll be fucked. Won't be until after the singularity tho so I'll have bigger problems than money at that point :(
>>51972217
>truck driving is going to be replaced in the next five years bro, bad example.
Not only will truck driving not be replaced, but its the #1 way to move drugs around not only this country, but every country
>>51970729
A camera system doing clothes realistic overlay and a large enough LCD would replace so many shopping mall clothing stores.
Until there is a program that can program programs, Im safe.
This question imposes a difficult consequence. If people were to lose their jobs and become unemployed, even if they had been given money for life, many would no longer have a reason to live. The people with hobbies, imaginative and curious people, can live without being forced to do some kind of work, that would give them reason to live, because they themselves can find this reason.
Sadly, our society kills the curiosity in young people, preparing them for fulfilling a task, working, even if the job is meaningless. A bullshit job; see >>51972217
Such a human is a machine and does what a machine is meant to do – work. When a person would lose their work, they would no longer be useful and it could highly increase suicide rates, for the people who couldn't find a new thing to do, out of their own will.
The comparison to times, where people were divided into aristocracy and workforce, comes to mind. The rich people became intellectuals, that were curious in the world, because their wealth allowed for it, while not being forced to do anything. They were able to have pleasure in it and find happiness. On the other side, poor people had to work on the fields to get food and perform similar manual work for fulfilling other needs. Their work, while hard, was useful, and made people happy.
In today's world sadly, society suffers from mental diseases not widely present in the past, like depression. There are too many people with useless jobs, too much free time, and lack of idea for a life, due to what people waste their lives on bullshit like social networks, creating stupid problems and movements like SJWs, and shitposting. The amount of consumers increases, while the number of original content creators declines.
>>51974416
Not really. Chicks love to "go out shopping." It's not just buying clothes to them. It's the whole experience.
>>51974394
Truck driving is going to get replaced in the next 20 years, not 5.
Basically you'll see it happen when self-driving truck systems (or upgrades) cost less than a human driver.
Which it easily could do. $50,000 for a self driving upgrade to a truck? That's less than 2 years of wage, and for your money you get a driver who can work 24/7.
>>51972481
Or...
5. The current financial system collapses, and Google among others adopt a new cryptocurrency that requires people to submit their processing power to help contribute to the global super computers. The more you processing power you contribute (up to a certain point) the more currency you'll get in return.
>>51975331
We need more trains. Trains are cooler than trucks. Only space trucks are cooler than trains, but it's distant future.
>>51955472
Becomes like Star Trek where everyone gets a living wage as a standard and people can volunteer to do the work that machines can't do, but it isn't a necessity to work.
Robots will never replace neets.
>>51975377
>Becomes like Star Trek
Okay, but how are we gonna make that transition from a shitty 20th century designed society into a true 21st/22nd century utopia? Something must change soon.
>>51975373
Trains are fucking expensive
Like a truck would be $200,000 and you have a vehicle that can get almost anywhere.
For a train, you're talking $20,000,000, and it can't go anywhere there aren't tracks, which are still quite pricey to lay. Especially if you have to lay them through other things.
My job IS automation, so yes.
>>51975439
The change in star trek happened after a global nuclear war in 2070, where most of the population died.
Change only happens after lots and lots of people die, I'm afraid.
>>51975450
Fuel and road maintenance are much more expensive than a train with tracks, when you compare the amount of cargo that a train can move. Trains are also a long time investment. Add speed of a train and they become truly superior. A truck is limited to around 100km/h, often less by law.
Trucks at most could be used to transport the cargo from train stations to local destinations.
Mechanical Engineer
Yes. Automating my job means that we've more or less achieved self sustaining automation and no longer need to work at all.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Pq-S557XQU
Humans need not apply.
>Mechatronic engineer
Until robots can design and build robots I'm fine.
Considering it's IT consultation for networking and security... nope, I'm good, because people are stupid.
Yes because my web sites and web apps won't build themselves.
>>51975628
Squarespace.com allows for average Joe Lunchbucket to create a website cheaply in a few minutes.
>>51955113
Finish Carpenter. so as long as rich people like to look at wood, and custom fixtures. I think ill last longer than the doctors.
>>51972177
You're totally right about the economy. It probably won't be long before truck drivers and whatnot are replaced, probably less than a decade. Programmers will stay employable for an extremely long time, though. Longer than employment will even matter.
>>51970923
Honestly, as more and more jobs become automated, the economy will become more and more unstable. Stating the obvious, technology is advancing at an extremely fast rate. No government as been set up to account for the fact that robots will replace all jobs and that people have to be able to survive somehow. As technology replaces jobs, the gaps between wealth classes will grow tremendously. The work environment will become EXTREMELY competitive, and getting-or even keeping a job will become very difficult. At some point, riots will break out and a basic income system will most likely be setup, as >>51969647 pointed out. It's hard to say how long it will be; at least 30 years would be my guess.
>>51975182
>>51972470
This is something I pondered long ago. Most people are used to working. However, humans evolved to be this way. Even before society existed, life was full of work. Less so, as a nomad, but still, there was often work to be done. It's natural that someone would have a psychological need for a job. I used to be a neet, and I did get bored occasionally; I was always able to find something fun to do to cure it, but I wonder if I could be a happy neet for the rest of my life? I definitely think that a good portion of people could not be happy neets. Many people hate work, but I think that they might also be better off having their job. I honestly wondered if I would have been happier if I was born in 1460 or something. Life would have been simpler, I likely would have a loving wife by now... Free time and free access breeds eccentricity in fertile minds. Volunteer work will likely become a popular option. The suicide rate will likely rise even higher... Cont
>>51976020
Mental illness overall will likely rise, I think. It makes me wonder if someone will go insane and develop a virus to make the robots go Terminator and destroy humanity or something...
The future doesn't look good, but the more well-timed the insertion of a basic-income system, the better.
>>51961728
>mfw you've just described me ;)
For the most part, I Google everything.
Got my CS degree and math minor though. Aww yeee
I'm a sculptor so I might be safe for a little while, at least until the robots become self-aware and a whole new age of artistic expression is upon us. Exciting times to look forward to.
LATE TO THE PARTY UT STILL RELEVANT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Pq-S557XQU
Yes and no.
I do tax law and the branch is already highly automated. But because words and interpretations are never clear and individual businesses might have specific wishes you still need humans. On the IRS side it are machines that poop out reports which businesses stand out and need to be checked. But eventually a human makes the final call. And there is a shortage of knowledgeable people in this field because nobody studies it.
I'm working on a website for an online business for myself. So if that works that's pretty future proof.
>security
for now I'm safe
>>51977658
To add. In taxes mismatches between laws of several countries are abused constantly. That also requires humans to figure out.
>>51955113
i design machines that automate things
so sure, for now i'm good
The car industry has hardly lost any welders even though automated welding robots for chassis welding exist.
Bentley even has a hundred welders working alongside the most cutting edge robotic equipment, without a single job loss.
You are all retarded.
>>51977874
still need people who can into welding to help with programming the robots when there's new things to weld
