>Requesting purchase advice:
http://pastebin.com/hjHkKDyM
>/g/ wiki headphone FAQ:
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php?title=Headphones
>Previous thread:
>>51938373
My headphones > you're headphones
>>51951532
nope
First post.
What are the best possible headphones I can buy for under £50?
>>51951541
Yep.
>>51951550
nope
>>51951543
>>51951532
>>51951541
Fug :(((
>>51951564
Yep.
>>51951575
nope
/hpg/
![Kro-Craft-Speaker-Rev_B-ViewSet_01[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/6G6qWW0.jpg "Kro-Craft-Speaker-Rev_B-ViewSet_01[1].jpg")
best speakers under $100, reporting in
>>51951471
>No /hpg/ - Headphone General on Subject
Congrats on fucking it up OP...
Never let subhumans make threads. Don't be lazy.
>>51951660
>>51951697
i wanted to have a thread where less people would ask shit questions for once
if they cant just search it, its guaranteed that us more hardcore followers will be here without them
thats the way it should be
now that the herd has been thinned, lets get down to business.
may headphones and mai waifu are better than your headphones and waifue.
>>51951770
You are objectively wrong, both mai waifu and headphones are superior to yours.
are fidelios meme headphones or are they legit
>>51951833
psh, i just asked my waifu if i could rape your waifu and shell still love me. she said yes
consider your waifu violated
>>51951857
everything is meme
>>51951858
Mai waifu could beat up you and you're waifu in a fight.
>>51951902
oh shes gonna be too tired to fight tonight senpai
she gonna be exhaaaaaaaaausted
>>51951927
You shouldn't tire you're waifu out like that.
>>51952148
oh its gonna be a 3some? even better
>>51952171
Sorry, but I'm not gay, u homo.
>>51952178
you dont seem to be following
it gonna be me, youre waifu, and mai waifu
>>51952190
Stop projecting you're sluty waifu on other girls.
Just because yours is a slut doesn't mean mine is as well.
>>51952240
youre still not following
this is RAPE, she has no choice
>>51952260
Mai waifu could beat up a dumb neackbeard with ease.
>>51952280
無礼な。。。
>>51951532
Just write "you are" instead of you're.
>>51952311
You started it.
>>51952354
waifus are eternal and all knowing
i asked mine if i could rape yours
since she cant be wrong, that means its okay
>>51952372
You're waifu sounds like a slut.
>>51952391
shes a slut for your waifu
thats why she wanted to 3some
This thread needs to be torched.
>>51952426
tch, might as well have come in and said "damn, no way mai waifu can compete with these guys. better kill the competition"
>>51952409
That just means you can't satisfy you're waifu.
>>51952462
sometimes she seeks a flowers honey, i cant tell her no
Are the M50x a meme or are they actually worth the price?
Right now I'm using a pair of Beats headphones that sound like shit.
>>51952544
Meme.
>>51952544
m50 is just an m40 tuned to sound more like Beats.
>>51952544
Worth the price.
http://giftsofsnowdown.com/?s=XMvadZ3
what should i get
>>51952563
>>51952584
>>51952594
well fuck.
Looking for a pair of headphones for my gf's son and I would like to hear some recommendations.
He's 14 right now and into popular teenager music so I thought a pair of Beats would be nice since they're pleb shit for kids.
Are they any good now that Apple is the master of Dr Dre? I heard the build quality was shit during the Monster era.
>>51952781
Have you looked at Beats prices?
it's not just about them being fro plebs, but the fact that they're still expensive as fuck.
>>51952781
If you're willing to spend the money for Beats, spend the money for an actually good pair of audiophile-grade headphones. Fucking Beats run $180 or thereabouts.
Someone here recommended me Cro Kraft rev b speakers and lepai amp.
I want to buy them but the Cro Krafts are not available in the US.
anyone know how to get?
>>51953067
Amazon? That's what I've heard.
>>51952781
>my gf's son
Guys how good is the HD600 with the O2 ODAC mayflower combo?
>>51953113
Not available in US. :<
Out of stock till always.
http://www.amazon.com/Replacement-Audio-upgrade-Sennheiser-Headphones/dp/B00KAKGQCQ
I'm looking for a replacement cable for an HD5x8, and this looks like the best one. But in one of the amazon comments, it points out that the plug into the left headphone has only two bands while the stock cable has three band connection:
"The original cord that comes with your headphones has 3 rings and 4 sections including the tip. This third party cord only has 2 ring and three sections. Upon contacting sennheiser cs I found out that the additional ring and section that's missing is actually what they referred to as true stereo where as with this cable it will just be basic stereo. The difference is heard in songs that have music going from one side to the other giving almost a 3d soundspace. With this third party cable it really does not sound the same at all. It basically defeats the purpose of your investment for the best sound quality and experience you can get for your buck."
Does this make any fucking sense and will it make that much of a difference? Anyone have experience with this specific cord?
>>51953685
That's a shame, they're really nice little speakers for the price.
>>51953792
Do you know any intermediary companies? like I buy it, ship it their address, and they ship to the US?
>>51953834
Nope, sorry man.
>>51951770
Dipshit
Whats the average lifespan of your average $250-300+ headphones
Ive had the Akg q701 for three years and Im starting to hear rattle on the left ear as if something broke and is loose inside. I could be wrong its probably the headband clips but it still works well
I got the sennheiser TR 175s and am liking them a lot.
Also building a new computer, what soundcard should I get, if any at all?
How the fuck do i argue with a beatsfag that keeps repeating the point "other headphones look clunky and ugly"
>>51954721
You don't.
>>51951660
I have these, they are pretty dope but the bass is moot
>>51953988
anyone?
>that feel when K7xx master race
>>51953988
Planars and stats last pretty much forever, minus changing out the ear cushions and cords when they wear out.
>>51953988
Headphones are pretty simple mechanically. Generally if you avoid tearing up the diaphragm, you will be good.
You can open up the 701 and look inside.
>Budget
up to $250 AUD, but practically $240 or so because I need to pay for shipping
>Location
Australia, shipping is practically 10 bucks to where I live.
>Source
Plugging these into a shitty laptop at the moment, eventually planning to plug them into a gaming rig.
>Preferred type of headphone
I'd prefer over-ear headphones.
>Open or closed
Closed as I have a girlfriend.
>Comfort level
It's pretty cool most parts of the year here and due to some past injuries I don't feel much discomfort around my head, so really it doesn't matter much.
>Preferred tonal balance
Don't know too much about what I'd like, see below
>Preferred music
Classical, Pop, R&B, and a bit of dubstep every now and then. Really I just want a decent set of headphones that can do everything.
>Past headphones
You're gonna laugh at me for this, but AKG K44 Perceptions. They were cheap and I needed a set of headphones so I picked them up. Otherwise I've just had shitty $10 headphones and earbuds.
>Budget
$180 including shipping
>location
US
>Source
Phone
>Type
Over-ear
>Open or closed
Open
>Comfort
As comfortable as possible
>Predered music
Rock, metal, folk
>Past
Pleb shit excecpt a pair of Takstar Pro80
>>51955393
>>51955501
It looks easy to open up too...never knew 701 opened through that circular plate
Thats good to hear glad these lasted three years so far. I need to find a reliable site for new pads however..
>>51955719
> Phone
> Open
You sure about that? if its for outdoors listening you will look like a total faggot with open headphones blasting your shitty edgy music and will sound like shit for you too.
>>51955928
I currently use my takstars for public use, just looking for something nicer for private use
Budget:
£300 ($450)
>Location
UK
>Source
Computer then a Fiio e07k
>Preferred type of headphone
Over ear
>Open or closed
Closed
>Preferred tonal balance
Warm
>Past headphones
AKG K550
>>51956500
>>51955719
Please tell us what you think about your respective headphones.
>>51956537
>AKG K550
It's my first decent set of headphones so I can't really comment on things such as soundstage or anything like that.
But for me they are pretty comfy and they have great sound isolation. My biggest gripe is that they feel flat. I tried fixing that using the e07ks built in equalizer but it still sounds flat to me.
>Budget
$100-140
>Location
US
>Source
Laptop now, getting PC soon
>Preferred type of headphone
Over-ear
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Anything not uncomfortable
>Preferred music
Pop, jazz but mostly play games
>>51952621
I hope you know that this is a scam.
>>51956777
Flat? I would assume in the bass? Nothing too harsh or anything?
You can use EQ APO for a wider and a more precise variety of adjustments. If not Windows, some other parametric EQ.
>Budget
100$ max
>location
US
>Source
Phone/5.1 PC jack
>Type
Over-ear with a removable cable
>Open or closed
closed
>Comfort
comfortable enough for 8-9 hours of daily usage
>Predered music
90's eletronic/eurobeat, jazz, classic
>Past
a shitty monoprice headphone
I'm looking for something neutral that still has a little bass and isn't agressive with the highs
>>51956952
Pro 80, XPT100, M40x are the go-to closed recommendations in that price range
>>51956962
how's the M40X regarding sound leakage?
>>51957006
A friend of mine has it, he says it isolates quite well.
Clamping force was a bit high at first so he stretched the headband a bit.
>>51956946
Yea the bass, and thanks anon. I'll give EQ APO a shot.
>Budget
Hard 100$(maybe more if I'm impressed)
>Location
Usa
>Source
Moto e(2015), sansa fuze, sansa clip plus, pc
>Preferred type of headphone
Over ear headphones
>Open or closed
Closed or Open, not too sure
>Comfort level
I got a big ass head so it needs to be high
>Preferred tonal balance
Balanced, with good bass(nothing super crazy), and mids
>Preferred music
Indie dance/pop, rock, metal, classical, ambient, hiphop
>Past headphones
Philips shp9500(fits my giant head perfectly) broken and Philips lacks fresh stock so no replacement :'(
I'm honestly thankful for threads like these, people helping out the plebs and stuff.
>>51955573
>Minidisc
>Addictedtoaudio
These places don't have shipping fees for Australia.
http://www.minidisc.com.au/headphones-earphones/closed-headphones/audiotechnica-athmsr7-hires-headphones-p-1100696.html
>Budget
$240
>Location
USA
>Source
PC, magni + modi amp/dac
>Preferred type of headphone
full sized i guess
>Open or closed
previously open but up to either
>Comfort level
idc they can be made of sandpaper if they sound good enough
>Preferred tonal balance
something to complement akg702, in other words, something that is good at whatever genres the akg702 is not so good at
>Preferred music
rock, electronic (ambient and trip-hop), metal, rap, classical
>Past headphones
akg 702 - highly satisfied, wishing to find a pair of headphones to pair with these
Basically if there was a venn diagram with one circle of genres that the akg 702 was good at representing and another circle of genres that this hypothetical pair of headphones I want to buy was good at representing, I'd want the genres within the area where the circles met to be as few as possible.
I'm willing to change any of the preferences I listed if I can be convinced that it's worth it
>>51958071
K702 are good but if you want more bass for rap and electronic i would say a sony XB1000 is a good option at that price if you can find one used
Thoughts on the Vali 2?
Is there an updated IEM guide? I need to pick out a pair of them for my girlfriend
>Budget
$150, don't mind spending all the way up to it and I don't mind spending $20 either
>Location
US
>Source
Phone/laptop only
>Preferred type of headphone
IEM
>Open or closed
IEM
>Comfort level
Small ear friendly, no wire over ear
>Preferred tonal balance
Probably warm and forward
>Preferred music
Indie, popish stuff, stuff girls listen to
>Past headphones
Xiomi Piston 2's, she loved them
I would just buy Piston 2's again, but they don't seem to sell them anymore. Why not 3's you ask? Great question. Her picky ass will only accept white IEMs. I've looked at the Fidelio S2's, but I'm worried they'll leak and they will mainly be used while she commutes so that may be a problem.
>>51958406
garbage
>>51958450
IE 80
>>51951471
What do you guys think of the ATH-M50X? Got a best buy card and I have decided to get a new headset.
>>51958071
okay i just caved and bought the sennheiser 650 with the $200 amazon gift card
>>51958835
the bundle i mean
>>51956879
Google "ZY cables".
>>51953650
Really good
So the TH-X00s have shipped by now, right? How has public reception been?
![Newest-Original-Xiaomi-Piston-3-Youth-Edition-Earphones-3-5mm-Hearphones-Headset-With-Remote-and-Mic[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/PGQJbTc.jpg "Newest-Original-Xiaomi-Piston-3-Youth-Edition-Earphones-3-5mm-Hearphones-Headset-With-Remote-and-Mic[1].jpg")
>>51958450
>Her picky ass will only accept white IEMs.
so get her the white pistons 3.0 (the youth version atleast)?
They sell white versions, but I'm not sure if they're fake
>>51951471
>Budget
Hoping for something used around $150
>Location
US
>Source
Schiit Asgard 2, and Bifrost
>Preferred Type
Full-Size
>Open or Closed
Open
>Comfort Level
Comparable to the HD 598's (more or less)
>Preferred Music
Rock, Blues, Jazz...
>Past Headphones
Sennheiser HD598 - Something about them I didn't like. I couldn't exactly pinpoint it, but they just sounded off to me.
Give me a good balanced/neutral pair of headphones, /hg/.
>>51959834
good job posting a location or budget, faggot
>>51959890
Should have mentioned budget wasn't really a problem. Though $1000+ headphones don't need to apply, I need all kinds. Whether it's from $99 to $999. I need them all.
Location is USA.
>>51959928
so you want to purchase several different pairs of headphones?
>>51959974
Not exactly. I'll take all suggestions and look through them all based on how I feel about them based on certain circumstances for myself. I just need to know which headphones are either balanced/neutral in general basically. While it's unlikely I'll be purchasing anything too high in priced, I would still like to research them.
So what's the point of V-Shaped headphones?
>>51960015
""""""""""fun sound""""""""""
>>51959928
HE-560
>>51960023
No! I need a serious reply about this dammit!
>>51960056
I don't think people purposely make V shaped signatures
I think it's just a side-effect of cheap shit
>>51960031
Damn, those are some nice looking headphones anon. Keep them coming though.
>>51960076
No that's pretty standard loudness diffuse field voicing.
>>51960092
what the fuck does that even mean
>>51960114
It means you should learn something before shitposting endlessly.
>>51959759
>Hoping for something used around $150
>Schiit Asgard 2, and Bifrost
what are you doing
>>51960087
HD600 is the one everyone mentions for "neutral."
I know this isn't exactly the thread to ask about this but
I've had this thing (Samsung HT-X40) for almost ten years and it finally shat the bed on me. The speakers work fine but the device itself is busted. Already took it to multiple places and they say Samsung doesn't make replacements anymore so I'm looking for a new system
I used it mostly for the aux to watch Netflix and play my PS4, is there anything I can buy to replace it or I'm just fucked and will have to buy a whole new system?
>>51960205
>HD600 is the one everyone mentions for "neutral."
Too be he also asked for "balanced".
>>51960245
>speaker general no longer exists
rip
>>51960265
Sure it's more neutral than balanced, but it's the best compromise for both at that price range.
>>51960353
It's not neutral or balanced.
>>51960353
>99 to 999$
>have to make compromises
what
>>51960369
If the HD600 aren't, then almost nothing else is especially in that tier.
>>51960370
The guy asked for options throughout that price range.
>>51960389
No full-sized headphone in production is neutral.
>>51960423
Look, when someone asks for neutral headphones, you have got to refrain from being a pedant and mention the ones that come closer than others.
>no hpg in subject field
stop avoiding my filters you retarded general faggots
>>51960451
Or you can go a step further and recommend neutral IEMs or loudspeakers instead.
>Budget
£200 at most, cheaper than this ideally
>Location
UK
>Source
PC motherboard, considering getting an Audigy Fx if it's worth it
>Preferred type of headphone
full sized, preferably closed
>Comfort level
comfier is better
>Preferred tonal balance
neutral
>Preferred music
rock, jazz, folk, classical
>Past headphones
MDR V6s
Are DT880s worth upgrading to from my V6s (broken atm, contemplating either fixing them or just buying different phones)? I'd like something with little sound leakage if possible, and something that could let me ABX FLAC ideally.
>>51960549
>something that could let me ABX FLAC ideally.
No such thing considering it's indistinguishable from a good lossy encode with any equipment on the planet. The bottleneck is your ears, not your gear.
>>51958406
Avoid.
>>51951657
I can confirm, and even probably under 200$ in yuropoor land.
>>51960581
>good lossy encode
I mostly listen to V0/320, not Opus or anything (though I've never tested them so I wouldn't know if it matters anyway)
>>51951857
Legit
>>51952781
>my gfs son
>pair of beats
The Kekold is strong in this one
>>51954721
Tell him inner beauty>outer beauty, and sound is innerbeauty. Then kick his ass and beat him to death with a pair of planars
>>51951471
>Budget
200€ maximum
>Location
Europe, Belgium
>Source
Phone/ Laptop
>Preferred type of headphone
Over ear, full-sized
>Open or closed
Closed, I need it to cancel much sound around me because I need to work in a quite noisy environement. I would also like it if nobody could hear what I am listening to.
>Comfort level
Comfortable enough for 6 hours non stop wearing. Sound quality is also important but I could live with a little less if necessary.
>Preferred music
I listen alot to classical music. Very often to violin and piano music.
>Past headphones
Generic earbuds, Logitech H800, all shit. I would like a decent headphone.
These POS earbuds I've been trying to use max out volume at like 4%. Anything above 4% is purely hearing damage.
Why would anyone make something like this?
Also, still waiting on a good sub-$50 sale.
>>51958487
>>51960584
Any specific reasons why?
>>51958406
Is that a fucking vacuum tube?
To the anon who owns the x2 who purchased the 400i. You have a review yet?
https://youtu.be/O0AJaQ0TNuM
Anyone pre-ordered the HD800S yet?
>>51960710
>https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php?title=Headphones
When I think about it, I do not need it to connect to my phone, laptop is ok.
>>51960759
Yeah. It's a hybrid tube amp, whatever that means.
http://schiit.com/products/vali-2
>>51960710
get the dt770 memephones
>>51960749
oh nothing much, just that tube amps are old shitty technology thats by definition not as good as solid state amps. no big deal really
>>51960774
wow i literally just woke up. yeah i made a review a few threads back. most people liked it but it turned into a shit sling fest about whether the treble is strange or not. guess ill just post my image again too
http://pastebin.com/kjx9pFtd
>>51960891
Thanks man! Also, how is the UM2?
>>51960891
>crunching noise with small movements of your head/jaw.
Like static?
if so, I had this problem. It may be the part of the cable where it splits to go to each ear.
wiggle that part and see if it produces the same result.
>>51960926
https://a.uguu.se/jzldnb_heyfam.opus
>>51960954
i think its whatever is inside the earpads, or the pleather, making it sound like this. messing with the cord or the split part just sends that droning noise into the phones
>>51960954
>tfw I have this without any headphones on
help me
>>51961005
Cool, ill look into the UM2 more. Thanks.
>>51960205
I'm on a budget, and I need something new. Idk what to do.
>>51961050
naw dont. if i could go back in time, id get this
http://www.amazon.com/Focusrite-Scarlett-Solo-Compact-Interface/dp/B00MTXU2DG/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1450609626&sr=8-2&keywords=2i2
unless you want it cheaper, this is like entry level mostly transparent pre-amp
>>51961052
Your amp+DAC retails for $650, so getting used headphones for $150 is a waste of resources.
Either sell them to finance better headphones or save up for better headphones.
>>51960710
AKG K545 is what I use for that, pretty okay for what it is
>>51951857
memetastic
>>51961061
The UM2 should fit my needs. But if the Scarlett drops lower I may pick it up.
>>51961120
yeah, i bought it to feed audio for voip. not mission critical
>>51960777
Dumb shit to pre-order headphones.
>>51958406
I don't see a reason to consider it.
>>51960549
anyone
or just any neutral, closed cans for £200 or less
>>51961249
ATH-MSR7
Does anyone have the in ear monitor guide pastebin link?
>>51961287
they look good (and the design is pretty nice) ty
>>51961461
In the wiki
What would be a viable option for a budget DAC?
I live in The Netherlands.
I'm not sure how much these things costs as I google
Is the Sony MDR-XB1000 the best headphone for bass?
>>51962053
fiio e10k is about as cheap as it gets if you dont want a downgrade
>>51962469
Can't get any worse then the soundcard on the back or the build in audio on the g510 keyboard.
You confirming what I was thinking about buying makes it an instant order.
>>51960092
>standard loudness diffuse field voicing
No.
>>51960483
This is not a thing. "Neutrality" isn't something worth worrying about.
I want to try an open headphone with wide soundstage and detail below 300 €. I've been thinking about AKG K702. Which amp would work ok with it?
>>51963037
fiio e10k
>>51963047
Do you mean a Fiio e10k Olympus 2 DAC? I don't need a dac actually...
>>51963105
get an O2 then, but itll be a bit more costly. i dont know how youd go about getting it wherever youre from
>>51963153
O2 can't be found anywhere in Itay though...well, thank you for your recommendation anyways
>>51963846
see if you can get the Magni 2 then, by Schiit
>>51963846
>Objective 2
Shouldn't be that hard to get from elsewhere in Eurozone.
E10 is a DAC/amp combo
>>51963852
I can't find it on amazon.it and again I wouldn't know where else I could get that.
>>51964124
yeah I know...is the E10 sufficient to power the AKG K702?
>>51964151
>E10 sufficient to power the AKG K702?
yes
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/beyerdynamic-dt880-990-600-ohm-all-black-everything?referer=2YVXYC&mode=guest_open
DT880s for 240$ + S/H
http://www.head-fi.org/products/sennheiser-hd-598/reviews/12176#comments-title
> You are using these Senns to listen to your old phone? And your laptop? And then you're finding fault with the sound? And you're blaming the headphones for that? Any headphone is only as good as its source material. I think we can safely assume your problem lays there and not the phones.
Do the HD598 really sound bad from a laptop? do they have wide soundstage?
>>51964829
first of all the 558s are the same thing after a small mod and a lot cheaper
secondly soundstage is not real, it just means your fr graph is a rollercoaster so things seem to be different distances when theyre actually just different volumes
>>51964881
Soundstage or "headstage" is real. Your source or whatever you are plugging them into has no effect on it though.
HD 598/HD 558/HD 518 can sound pretty meh if you are using them from a jack with a high output impedance. This is not something that is common with laptops though.
>>51964151
>I wouldn't know where else I could get that.
http://schiit.com/faq/international
>>51964829
>HD598 really sound bad from a laptop?
Not necessarily any worse that they normally.
That quote is one of the dumber things related to audio I've read recently.
>>51965090
It's not real in that if you get used to it, you can eliminate the in-head sound and make mental adjustments to positioning errors.
Frequency magnitude is a factor in this, as it often is with audio perception.
>>51965158
>Frequency magnitude is a factor in this, as it often is with audio perception.
Of course but assuming your source and device driving the headphones is not altering frequency response, they are not going to affect the perceived open-ness or "headstage" of the headphones either.
>Budget
about $200-$250 dollars
>Location
USA
>Source
Mostly just laptop, desktop computer, and phone.
>Preferred type of headphone
I want wireless/bluetooth headphones, over the ear, full-sized
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
As comfortable as possible
>Preferred tonal balance
Anything that doesn't have overpowering bass.
>Preferred music
Classical, classic rock, alt rock
>Past headphones
Audio Technica M50s
Thanks guys. I'm just not really sure what I want to get.
>>51965268
wireless headphones are trash. please reconsider
>>51965279
Is there a specific reason why?
>>51965301
Massively overpriced for the sound quality.
>>51965268
>>51965333
Okay. Do you have a suggestion for wired headphones then?
>>51964881
>>51965090
>>51965158
leaving the soundstage aside, what about instruments' separation and detail? are those good on the HD 598?
>>51965386
most likely. "instrument separation" just means the headphone is more neutral than not.
>>51965386
Could be better. This comes from the frequency response, the 598/558/58 have too much upper bass/midbass, to start with.
You might want to EQ this out, and fill in the region the region below 60Hz some, maybe.
>>51965449
>the 598/558/58 have too much upper bass/midbass
Strange, I've always heard that HD598 bass is barely audible...well, it won't be a problem to me at all, since I'd like to listen to rock and pop with them
>>51965508
I mean the region around 150Hz, upper bass and not the lower bass. You can stand to adjust the high midrange some more while you are at it.
>>51965386
That's practically just frequency response and HD 598(or HD 558) is very good in this regard. Close to neutral response.
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>>51965699
By instruments' separation I mean that instruments are clearly distinguished and separated, honestly I didn't know that this expression is tied to the neutral response. >>51965596
ok thanks. Do you think that they would be good to listen to rock/electronic/pop music then? I heard some reviewers say that HD598 sound a bit "slow" and lack bass impact, which worries me a little...
Would a fiio e10k actually improve the audio quality of my dt770s by a noticeable amount or is it just some audiophile meme that does nothing?
>>51966041
More or less everything in the sound is just about the relative frequency magnitude.
>Budget
Around 200-250 euro (not over 300 though)
>Location
Italy
>Source
Laptop, Realtek ALC 277. I may consider to buy a dedicated amp if I don't have to spend more than 300 euro
>Preferred type of headphone
Over-ear, full sized
>Open or closed
Open
>Comfort level
Comfortable enough to wear for hours, something with velour earpads would be amazing.
>Preferred tonal balance
V-shaped, but I wouldn't mind a neutral/flat tone either. What I want is:
1) great instruments' separation
2) natural, realistic sound reproduction
3) an overall good headphone, both for listening to music and watching movies/tv shows
>Preferred music
Pop, electronic, rock, prog, acoustic, songwriters, blues, a bit of jazz and classical.
>Past headphones
Fidelio X2. I want to ask Amazon a refund because I got 2 pairs and they all had bad issues both build- and sound-wise. They sounded as congested and dark as a closed headphone, I want to experience a really open and airy sound.
>>51966041
"Slow" is from the upper bass excess. "Impact" is from the lack of low bass is has.
While not everything is the magnitude in the frequency domain, it tends to overwhelmingly dominate everything else in the sound.
>>51966139
Run through the checklist:
-Is it loud enough?
-Is the output impedance too high (mostly fixable by equalization)?
-Is there noise/EMI or hiss to it?
-Does it sound distorted as you start to crank up the volume?
If you can't answer yes to any of these, don't bother.
>>51966400
Why do you like V shaped? Just wondering
Doesn't that mean you have substandard mids?
>>51966507
Because V-shaped is usually more suitable to the music I like. However, the tonal balance isn't as important as the thing I wrote after that. I'd like to try a flat headphone, so I'm open to suggestions.
>>51966540
don't really know that much but massdrop has a group buy for DT880s which are highly recommended here. Maybe check out how much they are to ship to italy >>51964773
>>51966585
Beyer DT880 Pro and Premium are sold for around 225-250 euro in Italy, but everyone recommends an amp with them. I wouldn't love to spend more than 300 euro. Moreover, aren't DT880 semi-open?
>>51966705
oh, they looked fully open, my bad
don't know then
>>51966705
try the akg k702
>>51966705
Semi-open is a rather pointless category and wrong for DT880. Those don't isolate.
>>51966755
I'm interested in the K702 infact. They're sold for 205 € on italian Amazon, plus a Fiio e10K (roughly 80 €) would meet my budget requirements. There are two things about them I find a bit scary though:
1) comfort. Are the bump below the headband a problem? Do all the AKG K702 have them? Because the image of the AKG K702 on italian Amazon doesn't show any bumps.
2) detail: I love the idea of hearing a lot of things in the music, but I heard many people say that the amount of details can make the headphone sound analytical to the point the music isn't enjoyable.
What's your opinion?
>>51967078
i dont own them so i cant comment on comfort. no one seems to have any problems with them though, from what ive read
this detail thing youre speaking of is simply how neutral the headphone is, assuming the headphone can reproduce all audible sound. that means you do not want a v-shape at all, but neutral. the k702 is great for this
>Budget
30 euro
>Location
The Netherlands
>Source
Phone
>Preferred type of headphone
In ears
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
As comfortable as possible, usage is for sport
>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral
>Preferred music
Rock, Rap
>>51967127
I see. By detail I mean the headphone's ability to reproduce accurately the small/subtle things in the recordings.
>>51967143
Piston 3
>>51967173
the more neutral a headphone is, the more detail you're going to notice. this is because sounds will be closer in magnitude, without certain frequencies overpowering others. of course, this assumes that the hardware of the headphone is capable of reproducing those frequencies in the first place. this is no problem for the k702, so the last thing to worry about is how neutral it is, and it is quite neutral.
i could have told you that the x2 would not be for you for sure. i am certain that even if you dont find the k702 to be perfect, you will like it more than the x2.
>>51967078
Different anon here, once owned it.
>1) comfort. Are the bump below the headband a problem? Do all the AKG K702 have them? Because the image of the AKG K702 on italian Amazon doesn't show any bumps.
This has been revised out in the more recent versions from China. Even when it had bumps, my old Austrian model, it still wasn't as bad as the original 701, which had a lump right on the center of the skull.
>2) detail: I love the idea of hearing a lot of things in the music, but I heard many people say that the amount of details can make the headphone sound analytical to the point the music isn't enjoyable.
I don't hear it. 701/702 has a wiggly FR in the mids and highs, there are some peaks, but also dips to its sound. Like most headphones, it lacks a straightforward upward tilt.
702 is somewhat midbassy, but this seems to vary a bit from person to person.
>What's your opinion?
It was okay. More dull than people might have implied.
>>51967222
The main reason why I'm going to give my X2 away is its lack of soundstage and its congested sound reproduction. I'm thinking about the AKG K702 because I'd really love a spatious, airy presentation with clear, natural sound.
>>51967249
Thank you for your opinions. Some questions:
> don't hear it
Do you mean the detail or the analytical sound?
> lacks a straightforward upward tilt
Please explain
> somewhat midbassy
This should be a good thing for listening to modern music genres, isn't it?
> more dull
In a negative or a positive way?
Are there any open back IEMs?
>>51967433
>Do you mean the detail or the analytical sound?
Can I say both? I've don't hear the extreme detail, nor does it sound that "analytical". It has bass and a dip in the lower treble, between 2-6kHz, which the peaks that the 701 has.
>Please explain
Most "bright" headphones have bass, plenty of it. It can have a marked midrange plunge, giving it a slight V-shape. That's why I say few things are just bright.
As an example, people whine about the HD800 treble, but it lacks in the midrange and has a very broad boost centered around the upper bass. It's also just a couple of peaks in the case of HD 800.
>This should be a good thing for listening to modern music genres, isn't it?
I suppose, but let's get into the "it varies" part. K702 bass can be a little variable when it is worn, a bit more than the typical open dynamic.
It wasn't THAT midbass heavy either, and it rolled off the extreme lows a bit.
>In a negative or a positive way?
It wasn't treble torture (good), but it had treble notches that impacted clarity and "presence".
>>51967578
Vented, and yes.
The typical electro-dynamic driver IEM is heavily vented, only a few a closed enough to have strong isolation.
How little isolation do you want it to have?
>>51968106
Thank you for the infos.
> K702 bass can be a little variable when it is worn
Basically, what does this imply? does this mean that you should put extra care on the position you wear the headphones?
>>51968807
Yeah, that. Headphones don't couple perfectly to the head for all people, and 701 suffers a little more for the lack of sealing.
The pads affect this somewhat.
>>51969272
I see. What should the ideal position be? Ears in the centre of the earpads, or slightly forward/backward?
>>51960205
Thanks. I'll look into them too.
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>>51960451
Look guys, if it's easier I just need balanced. I don't know all the details on what is best for neutral, but I need whatever. Though closed headphones would be ideal, but I'll take whatever.
I can do all the research on them. I just suck at finding them. If they need a DAC or amp I'd like to know that as well.
>>51969389
Ideal for sound is just however makes it have the most bass. You have to fiddle around with that yourself. Nudge excess hair out of way, reorient the angled pads (they come off) to fill in the jawbone/mastoid gap better, and so on.
