Hello my friends.
I need a new GPU and have decided to go with r9 390. How bad am I fucking up? Or am I doing gud?
My computer specs:
Ivy Bridge 3570k
Asrock Z77 Motherboard
8GB ddr3 ram
750W PSU
What do you guys think about the video card? And should I buy Sapphire, gigabyte, MSI!?
>>51949751
Also, I am doing 1080p, but how good is it for 4k?
GTX 970 is better
390 is Reddit tier, they think because it has 8GB of VRAM that it's twice as good. GTX 970 performs better.
its overkill for 1080/60
no reason to try and future proof with next gen right around the corner as well
>>51949897
Doesn't that make it more future proof?
>>51949932
Fuck.
I hate playing the waiting game. How long before "next gen" arrives?
>>51949876
>>51949897
>even considering 3.5GB card in 2015
nvidia shills pls go.
>>51949980
that's another reason why I wanted to go AMD. Lots of Nvidia fanboys too.
PSU isn't big enough.
You need a kW for any decent AMD card.
>>51950051
very funny fag
>>51949950
i think its less than 3 months, nvidia is supposed to be having a sizable price drop after the new year
Whatever you do, don't get 970. For 1080p gaming a 380 is enough.
>>51949950
"Future proof" doesn't really matter when the card doesn't even have the power to run the 8GB that it has.
The only time the 390 beat the 970 was at 3K by a whopping 1 FPS, considering it has "MUH TWICE THE VRAM" that isn't exactly what I'd call impressive.
The fucking thing struggles at 1080p even https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15wOp7_dD8E
Once everyone heard of the 3.5GB thing AMD just strapped an oversized amount of RAM on it because I mean OBVIOUSLY the 3.5 GB is a meme so 8 GB is WAAAAAAAAY better right guys? Good marketing honestly, I don't blame them.
>>51950064
>very funny fag
It's not a joke.
Your card and processor alone draw 650W at load. You think you don't have enough shit in there to add up to another 100?
You know you're not supposed to exceed 80% of your PSU's rated capacity, right?
>>51950134
Hahaha, you so funny
Upvoted!
>>51949932
Next gen is always around the corner. Might as well wait forever with that logic
>>51950183
not really, the last 2 generations of video cards are all rebrands from both manufacturers, at least this next one is new architecture and possibly smaller dies as well
>>51950209
And then they will mention the new batch afterwards. And everyone will say wait for the new pee-force buttfuck series cards they will be really future proof.
>>51950272
lmao
>>51949751
Awesome build OP
>>51949842
I have a 4K monitor and this card and can vouch for it being a great performer more than any of its nvidia counterparts, AMD have really done a good job with the memory bus and VRAM so its pretty much built for 4K. I can guarantee 140+ FPS maxed out CSGO and many other titles can go well above the 90's. In all honesty I pity people who chose a GTX 970 over this beast, they will be throwing out their cards in a year when their 3.5 GB can't cope with the newer titles and higher resolutions. R9 390 , best card for the money out there let everyone else know.
>>51950318
well that settles it I am buying the R9 390, if not for gaming but also because I need a general GPU for rendering on Blender
>>51949876
>>51949897
>exactly one minute between posts
>samefagging this hard
>shilling the 3.5gb card that was falsely advertised for memory, cache, and ROPs.
>>51950351
Nice congratulations, I really couldn't stress how much this thing is a beast, I have the sapphire model, I swapped my gtx 750ti out for this thing, huge upgrade, my friend has a 970 based system similar CPU's and we compared benchmarks on my 4K ASUS panel , R9 390 hands down. If you have the cash a 390X is also worth it.
OP here, FML!!! Just measured the inside of my fucking case and the R9 390 will not fit AT ALL!!
Best method of suicide? I guess I gotta go with the 970 :/
>>51950399
I let you down man
>>51950272
Crimson? I've been having perfomance issues with crimsonon my 390 but no driver crashes.
Either way it's enough for me to revert back to ccc. Crimson is having growing pains
>>51950373
>>51950351
There are nvidia shills on this board, they have to clear out the 3.5GB gimpy card from stock so they market it to shit, in actuality the card isnt even capable of 1440p.
>>51950134
>Your card and processor alone draw 650W at load.
can't tell if serious, but my 4690K @ 4.3GHz paired with an OVERCLOCKED R9 290 ON +50% POWER LIMIT draws just over 500W from the wall, with both under 100% load.
>>51950406
Shame, just get another case? Cases are pretty cheap and I wouldnt prefer a case over a GPU, if you need a shorter card just go for two 380X's insted if you have the PCI express slots.
>>51950431
This , im running a 390 based system on a 720W bronze rated PSU, chained with a voltage regulator. Power consumption is not a big deal.
>>51950441
Honestly, seeing as how he's running 1080p, a 380X might be sufficient.
how bad is XFX amd cards? Only those willl fit in my case
>>51950466
XFX are more about stylish looks than anything else, iirc. Cooling performance is mediocre, so is build quality.
>>51950466
XFX is a good brand, they offer good warranties and have been loyal to their customers, plus the design of their cards isnt childish unlike MSI. Powercolor is also pretty good if you can find a decent model.
>>51950406
Get an extender and figure something out. Or if the drive cage is the problem you could take that out. Also if you have a crossfire mobo you could probably plug it in in a lower slot.
>>51950406
What kind of shit tier case can't fit a 12" card.
>>51950466
Cases are cheap bro just get a 50 dollar cooler master one.
>>51950406
Which 390 are you looking at? The MSI card is a lot shorter than the Sapphire.
>>51950406
Got a dremel
>>51950421
The 970 is like sli with none of the benefits
>have to wait for driver profile to limit vram before playing a new game
>have to put up with stuttering before
Pic related is heavy stuttering at 1080p, which everyone says the 970 is fine for.
>>51949897
The 390 out preforms the 970 are you fucking retarded.
>>51950581
This 970 is gimped to hell.
>>51950129
>Using old benchmarks that doesn't account for the newest drivers.
>>51950581
>muh synthetic benchmarks
Prime95 will also heat your processor up to 80-90C. I guess everyone needs a custom water loop or it will be unusable in games, right?
I have yet to encounter a game that stutters at 1080p.
OP here, so I guess I will have to remove the hard drive cage. Will my hard drives over heat though?
>>51950631
What's wrong with 80-90 degrees celcius?
Intel processors are fine up to 105 degrees last time I checked. My heavily overclocked i7 870 peaks at 84 degrees in ibt.
Powercolor r9 390 PCS+ reporting in. Fanless cooling at sub 60C and card never goes above 71C even under stress testing load. Albeit the fans DO get lous but what do you expect having 3 fans running at 3k rpm each?
I had 2 r9 290 PCS+ card in xfire before this 390. Ram module on one went bad so I sent it in and they sent me the 390 as replacement.
Powercolor is easily one kf the nost under rated brands for AMD cards. For reference, their pcs+ cooler usually comes within 1C or so of sapphires vapor-x.
Stay away from xfx cards. Far as I know their r9 series cards have no cooling on vrm1 which will then get to 106C+ and eventually cause a premature death for the card.
Msi cards are mediocre at best in terms of max clock speed, cooling, and noise. My buddy has one. Only 2 fans makes the card shorter than 3 fan models but at the price of noise and higher temp. In his moderate airflow case, his card was reaching 85C at 100% load in the same stress test that my PCS+ card was getting 70C.
Meanwhile my card is in a very low/no air flow fractal R5 case too.
>>51950650
I'm just gonna be that one asshole that tells you to clean out your pc.
Clean out your pc.
>>51950515
I have a 970 btw, it's probably better at 1080p as it runs a lot cooler and more silent. But I'm not a hardcore nvidia shill, I was planning on getting a fury x because let's face it, that card is sexy af + it's stock iquid cooled, and I'm planning on upgrading to a 4k monitor in the next 2 years, I'd sli it when the next furies come out for some smooth 60fps 4k. It was supposed to beat the titan x at 4k, if it had 8gb like the 390/390x. But I chose the 970 to keep me good at 1080p until then. Let's hope the successor has at least 8gigs, and let's hope the driver meme dies out.
>>51950650
Remove the drive bay and put the hard drives somewhere with one or two small fans? Maybe at the base of the PC case.
>>51950672
>>51950650
This. Clean your pc.
>>51950650
>fat
>computer on carpet
>dust caked fucking everywhere
I hope this is a joke.
>>51950657
>>What's wrong with 80-90 degrees celcius?
>My heavily overclocked i7 870 peaks at 84 degrees in ibt.
Max rated temp for most intel processors is somewhere around ~75. Any higher and you are risking damage. 90C is around when it starts throttling to avoid damage.
Your processor should not ever exceed 75C, but every single one will in Prime95 because of the way the new versions compute primes.
>>51950695
>I was planning on getting a fury x because let's face it, that card is sexy af + it's stock iquid cooled,
It's also loud as fuck you fucking idiot.
OP, I'm on the same boat, I actually put together a desktop and I'm trying to decide which card to get. Which one's better, Sapphire or MSI?
Do either of them have coil whine? Which one's quiter & cooler?
>>51950672
>>51950721
Tips on cleaning it? I am scared to fuck some shit up.
>>51950724
I take my own life
>>51949876
well memed lad
>>51950669
>Msi cards are mediocre at best in terms of max clock speed, cooling, and noise.
That's funny. I OCd my MSI 970 300Mhz on the clock speed and 500 on the memory. It's really not loud at all even at 100% fans.
AMD wins again.
>>51950746
Use a can of compressed air, it's the easiest.
Or use a vacuum if you don't want to spend money on it
>>51950724
Really? My old sandy laptop used to get to the mid 90s as soon as it went under load and it worked fine for 3 years until I upgraded.
>>51950738
Well, you know there are cases with noise dampening foam. And the fury x is pretty small, so a micro atx build in a nice compact noise dampening case would be a godlike experience.
>>51950810
>My old sandy laptop
Laptops are different. Do not compare them to desktop processors. They are designed to get extremely hot.
>>51950746
Oh you inept, fat, fucker.
You're obviously able enough to pry the side panel off, the next demanding task is to blow air at the components making the dust FUCK OFF.
Don't have canned air? Just blow with your fat lips, or get a sturdy carboard sheet/ magazine and wave air at that motherfucker.
>>51950724
The limit on intel is 90c.
>>51950790
>amd wins again
That contradicts with the rest of your reply, but okay.
>>51950631
My consensus on pc hardware is this. If it can pass thebmost brutal of stress/torture tests for at least an hour either BSOD, throttle, performance loss, hitting thernal limit, or otherwise breaking, it is good to go.
So p95 heats up cpus with its small fft tests. That is what stress tests are made to do. In real world scenerios 99% of the time you will NEVER stress your cpu out as much as p95 does. But in that 1% chance you ever will, you KNOW your PC is up to the task.
Same goes for the video card. How people are OK with the ram problem on the 970 is beyond me. The same would be said if my 290/390 had a similar issue. I would have sold it and bought something different . Just swallowing that crock of shit tells companies they can get away with murder.
Sapphire R9 290x Tri-x
i5-6600
H170 board
DDR4-2133, 2x 8GB
Fractal Define R5
EVGA Supernova G2 550W
I have yet to assemble it, but I will in a couple days.
How is the 290x?
>>51950831
Laptops throttle as soon as they reach 90°C, they were made to idle at higher temps, but at extreme temps (at which point a desktop pc would turn into a jumbo jet but keep the components from melting) a laptop just slows down to 60% until everything reaches somewhat lower temps (still high when compared to desktop)
How are PowerColor cards? Thinking about getting a 390 to replace my 7850 and the powercolors are considerably cheaper.
Was planning on the MSI but hear the Sapphire is quieter so I might grab it, but then noticed PC is like $50 or more less.
>>51950851
>>51950743
I always see people recommending Sapphire, it's probably the best choice
>>51950949
You will run 1080p just fine!
Can't say you'll do it on ULTRA thogh
>>51950949
It's pretty good for 1080p (very close to all max), good enough for 1440p (high settings, but not close to max).
>>51950959
Powercolor is amazing. Having bought gigabyte and sapphire in the past, I prefer powercolor now. Amazing cooler their PCS+ model is.
Pic is my old 290 with morpheous and the R9 390 I got from RMA.
>>51950831
Well my i7 870 is about 4 years old too and it's still going strong.
It doesn't spend all its time at peak though, so I guess that helps.
>>51950970
Supposedly Sapphire works closely with AMD. That's why I'm tempted to get Sapphire.
I'm debating getting this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202164&cm_re=r9_390-_-14-202-164-_-Product
Should I wait for christmas? Is it reasonable to expect a price drop?
>>51950990
A 290X will run most games on 1080p maxed out.
Maybe turn down some AA, but you won't have to turn down much else unless the port is ass (see: Batman: Arkham Knight).
>>51950915
>>So p95 heats up cpus with its small fft tests. That is what stress tests are made to do. In real world scenerios 99% of the time you will NEVER stress your cpu out as much as p95 does. But in that 1% chance you ever will, you KNOW your PC is up to the task.
The problem is p95 after 26.6 run AVX on the math coprocessor and it heats your CPU up to unrealistic, even for a stress test, degrees.
>Same goes for the video card. How people are OK with the ram problem on the 970 is beyond me. The same would be said if my 290/390 had a similar issue.
I'm okay with the RAM problem because I know benchmarks are synthetic and don't really translate to real world performance. I knew many with a 970 and never experienced the stuttering that every benchmark showcases. I have never run into a videogame that will put my 970 over 3.5gb. It was also only $230, and my PSU could support it without being upgraded, unlike a 290/390.
>>51951025
>Should I wait for christmas? Is it reasonable to expect a price drop?
I don't think so. Maybe after christmas. You just missed some awesome sales (black friday, cyber monday)..
>>51951004
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131672&cm_re=390-_-14-131-672-_-Product
It is so much cheaper it makes me paranoid something is wrong. How loud is it? I would generally prefer a mostly silent card. Is it crazy big compared to the others?
>>51951072
It's really long and three slots thick. The results are worth it though, as long as you can fit it into your case.
>>51951072
>It is so much cheaper it makes me paranoid something is wrong. How loud is it? I would generally prefer a mostly silent card. Is it crazy big compared to the others?
AMD is not quiet. Ever.
>>51950990
>>51951045
>>51951045
I've also ordered the MG279Q (144p, 27'', 144hz,IPS) for cheap. I hope it's not as bad as people claim. I should be able to play recent games on high, right?
I remember the days when the HD4000 series came out, blowing Nvidia and everyone else out of the water. All in cost, performance, and efficiency.
What happened?
So I got an ASUS Radeon R9 270 from a fellow for a cool Canadian hundo and I am quite enjoying it.
I'm coming from a Gigabyte 450 GTS so it's a pretty good upgrade.
Playing at 1080p I can play almost anything at ~max or ~ultra settings at FPS that make me happy (Usually around 50-90 depending on game).
My CPU is a bottleneck though, an AMD Phenom II X4 955 BE only seems to hit 3.8GHz on OC and I've got a pretty sizeable fan on the heatsync but eh, I'll build a clean i5 after I move I guess.
I'm lookin' for a good ITX setup, really. I'll probably at some point hit up a Radeon Nano... maybe a Fury X if it fits comfortably.
>>51951136
Sure. Be careful with AA and you should be good.
>>51951136
>550W
>290X
>Skylake
>1440p
Enjoy running your shit on medium.
>>51951072 what >>51951107 said. If you can fit it, its great.
>>51951108
When fans are sub 50% speed it is rather quiet. But the card stock fan curve has it set so tje fans don't even come on until 60C. In my no airflow R5 case it idles at 42-45C. I can even play stuff like Dark Soul 1 and 2 completely passively with it topping out at 58C or so. Maybe once every 45 minutes the fans come on and blast the card back down to 50C. Then click off.
>>51949751close to my build, runs 1440p pretty well, I don't think 4k performance will ve good tho for recent titles in the last 3 years.
>>51951179
Playing at what res? I have a 1440p on the way I may game on, but I also have a 1080p TV so it comes down to mood and the game as to which res I will play on basically.
I have a decent silent thermaltake mid tower case and a batch of new silent 120s I would install when I get the new card and probably a new platinum PSU with it.
Just don't want to be playing something at 1440p and have the fans blasting super loud and ruining it. With my evo212 and case fans though it should be getting pretty nice airflow.
>>51951151
Nothing.
Hd 7970 came out, great gpu.
290x came out, great gpu.
Fury x came out, great gpu.
Stop shilling.
HD4xxx series weren't even dx11 compatible.
>>51951217
1440 seems to be thw sweet spot honestly. When I was monitor shopping, it was either $500 for my Samsung 32" 1440 or the same for a 27" 4k from like AOC. 4k just seems to be a hassle at this point because to get any decent framerate, youre talking xfire or SLI and their terrible drivers, or turning settings way down. No AA at all or medium quality.
I love my 1440 monitor. Think ill only buy 4k as a website/multi tasking monitor simply because of screen real estate.
>>51951294
Are you serious. Modern AMD cards are basically furnaces, and the top tier cards lag behind Nvidia's.
>>51951349
>Modern AMD cards are basically furnaces
Not really, no. They are slightly more power-hungry than NVidia cards with the same generation architecture, and the only reason the 290(X) ran so hot and loud was because of the terrible reference cooler.
>>51951279
I play those games at 1440p on ultra. Some games the fans will run 70%+ no matter what you do ubless you manaully make a new fan curve with like afterburner. Card has an agressive stock fan curve for anything above 60C.
With everything turned to ultra in GTA 5 except for "advanced" graphics options and max view distance, I usually get 45-60 fps. This paired with an i5 4690k. Usually about 6.5gb vram too according to MSI afterburner on screen thing.
Well worth the money imo.
>>51951349
There's like a 30w difference.
Nvidia shill pls.
Fury x is better at 4k than 980 ti.
Trades blows at 1440p, loses at 1080p.
Considering AMD marketed it as a 4k card I wouldn't consider that a fail.
Also crossfire rapes sli.
>>51951300
Those 4k tvs look dope on top of tripple monitor setups
>>51951479
That they do.
>>51951398
Do you have any coil whine? I see people bitching about it for the PC 390 but it might be low power supplies. I was considering getting a 750w platinum PSU to go with it since I have a 600w atm. Honestly according to partpicker a 600 should still do it, but going from bronze to platinum doesn't seem a bad idea just to be sure.
>>51950544
My mITX case for example.
AMD cards are fucking huge
>>51951675
Not the nano :^)
>>51951045
>A 290X will run most games on 1080p maxed out.
All games actually
The 380x can almost do that too.
Unless you start doing mods and external AA and the like
>>51951768
Doesn't the nano use less power than a 980?
I want 3 of them for crossfire, but I'm too much of a poorfag.
Is it true that game developers like to optimize NVIDIA cards so that they run better on their games? This is the thing that has made me iffy about getting AMD.
You might say "Don't support the merchants!", but the bottom line is that it performs better than AMD.
>>51949751
>>51949842
An R9 390 is more than enough for 1080p gaming at maximum settings, but you need two for similar setting at 4k. A single 390 is okay at medium settings at 4k, but ideally, you'd get a much stronger card for those resolutions.
>>51950406
An MSI Gaming 390 will fit most, if not all ITX cases.
>>51952093
>Is it true that game developers like to optimize NVIDIA cards so that they run better on their games?
Not sure about that conspiracy theory, but NVIDIA drivers are almost always released around the same time as a game and almost always improve performance. AMD never gets their shit out on time, if ever.
>>51952302
Yeah nah
>>51950466
The only good thing about XFX is that they stick with reference board designs, which means that a reference 290/X waterblock WILL fit an XFX card. It's pretty much the only reason to buy an XFX card.
>>51952167
> you'd get a much stronger card for those resolutions.
I dunno - with a freesync screen, an overclock and some settings fuckery 4k on a single 390/390x is entirely doable for the overwhelming majority of titles.
>>51949751
Unless you are using some softwares that only work with CUDA, then go for it. It's a bretty gud card.
>>51949751
Best for the money right now.
I've yet to throw anything at it that can't run maxed out, 60fps, and 1080.
Its cheaper than a 970 and slightly better. The extra ram is good if you are a modder and to keep the card from aging as fast.
Its honestly overkill, but middle of road cards are a huge step down. And the higher cards like the 390x or 980etc don't really see a big enough jump to worth the cash over say just upgrading a little sooner.
>>51952371
At the highest settings, anon. The 390 will get around 30FPS for most modern games, but I still wouldn't recommend a single 390 for 4k. I can't even recommend a single Fury for 4K. $300 consoles play at 30FPS, not PCs with $300 graphics cards.
>>51952383
Ok my phrase may be misunderstood. I'll rewrite it.
Don't buy AMD if you already know that you're going to use some software that only works on CUDA devices.
Other than that, just buy the R9 390, it's a good card.
How come these threads never mention TDP?
390 is almost twice as power hungry as the 970 for fucks sake
![Fallout-4-PC-Performance_1440P[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/xW67MDr.jpg "Fallout-4-PC-Performance_1440P[1].jpg")
>>51952093
>but the bottom line is that it performs better than AMD.
as an nvidia guy i can honestly say this is becoming less true over time. when you look at benchmarks you see AMD cards that are competing against nvidia cards in the same price range performing equally as well and sometimes even better.
here are AMD cards holding their own against nvidia cards in a nvidia optimized game, this is before applying tweaks to get better performance too.
the next big graphical game release coming out in 2016 is going to be mankind divided and it's an AMD sponsored game, nvidia is going to get shit on in performance.
>>51952418
4k is still four times the resolution and thats nothing to ignore. In general *sync screens are best suited for when you can drive over 30 but less than 60fps.
>>51952463
Probably because power consumption is not really a big salepoint in desktops.
>>51952464
>Nvidia sponsored game
Have another game as reference.
>>51952463
If by double you mean 20%, then yes.
>>51952484
It's a huge deal-breaker for atleast two people I know
That feel when I saw my first electricity bill, fuck AMD
>>51952496
Remember: no 970 runs at the 145w TDP of the reference card because it cripples performance.
>>51952512
just how much do you think the 390 uses?
>>51952496
>148W vs 275W
>20%
>>51952464
>>51952488
>gaymes
>>>/v/
>>51952464
this graph is bullshit. they haven't ordered the cards logically at all. its not done according to minimum fps OR average fps
>>51952534
After the available information on it on the internet?
Is the R9 nano actually any good? I currently have a noisy 270x in a mini-atx case so anything quieter which actually fits in the case would be a bonus.
>>51952463
Because I can spend another 10 dollars on the electric bill over the coarse of a year to have a better card so I don't give a shit.
If I was worried about power consumption and wanted a work device a small laptop, Pi linux box, or singleboard machine would do the job. If I'm trying to game performance and initial investment are what matter.
>>51952512
They are clueless and no you didn't. Running a dryer, heater, A/C, water heater, etc will make a marked difference on a power bill. One graphic card in one PC isn't going to do shit.
>>51952622
It will be a significant leap in performance over your 270X, but at over three times the cost for not even twice the performance. The Nano was a mistake.
>>51952622
It's a nice piece of tech but definitely overpriced currently I'd wait for pascal or arctic whichever comes first and but it for cheaper or if something similar or better comes out opt for that. 270x is perfectly fine for 1080p I reckon.
>>51952657
The nano is good for custom builds.
Standard mITX cases support longer cards.
>>51952683
I can fit a Fury X in almost any ITX case, even if I have to pre-drill a mount for a radiator. Why would I pay the same amount for an inferior, voltage-locked/regulated card?
>>51952739
You can make a case so small you won't have space for the radiator. You're still thinking too big.
>>51952775
It's a niche product for a niche market within a niche market. I'm puzzled as to why AMD even pursued that market. FFS they even make water blocks for the Nano. Why?
>>51949751
I have a 5350 athlon with 16GB ram.. What's the highest-end card I could get that will not be bottlenecked by my CPU?
>>51952878
lol
>>51952556
Let me fix that for you.
>>51952633
>Because I can spend another 10 dollars on the electric bill over the coarse of a year to have a better card so I don't give a shit.
You're forgetting about buying a new PSU which costs ~$200 if you want a good one.
For the low, low price of $500 something, you can have a new PSU, and a card that runs hotter, louder, and only marginally better than a 970 which only costs ~$30-40 more than a radiatoreon.
>>51950466
the xfx r9 390 is actually really fucking good, far better than any of their previous models. really quiet, and I've never had mine go over 70c. got it for $259 during cyber monday and I couldn't be happier.
>>51951136
One 290x is okay but I bought two just to really max everything at 1440p. You might have to turn one or two settings down in newer games with one to get it to run smoothly.
>>51952898
You are not being useful Jamal
>>51952680
Sure, the 270x is great apart from the noise i'm getting on this card, making any gaming on it a painful experience.
>>51952683
Guess I'd better measure up to see how much room I actually have. From casual research just about every other more powerful current-gen card seems longer than the 270x apart from the nano.
>>51952911
Nope.
Just replaced nearly everything in my build except the PSU, as it had plenty of power because I always leave room for future devices and for loss of power over time.
390 was easily more quiet than HDD in the system, so the swap to an SSD leaves the only noise coming from a case fan which is very quiet. Card hasn't gone over 60C during use heavy use.
So no I didn't desire to pay 30 dollars more for a card that was going to choke on modded games and get dicked over in a few years.
The only bad thing about the card is that the Sapphire card is long as hell and a bitch to get in the case.
I have no loyalty to one brand or another. I loved my 7850, I liked my 9800 GTX before it, and my ATI card before that and so on. I usually swapped back and forth. And I will say Shadowplay is a nice extra on Nvidia cards and the AMD version isn't as low impact. But right now for the money the 390 is better. Anything more sees to little a benefit and anything less didn't see a big enough jump over the 7850.
Unless the case just can't fit a 390 for some reason I see no reason to get a 970 over it as nothing you said was true to any degree that matter aside from the greater price.
>>51952903
That memory speed is not stock for a 290x...
>>51950746
Without insulting you I'm going to add to this:
>>51950810
Compressed air does the job well and for the amount you'll probably need it's cheap and places like WalMart even has it. Pick up a 2 or 3 pack that they usually come in for like 6 bucks. You'll probably only need like a can for all your shit, it comes off fast.
Use the straw and get into all the nooks and crannies especially fan bearings and stuff, just don't DON'T take anything apart that's like the CPU off the socket or anything there's no need and you'll just get dirt in there. Clean out the heatsink fins etc. Remove any dust filters and if they're not cloth you can probably run them under water (Assuming you let them dry before putting them back in) or use a type of lens cloth that doesn't lint up with some alcohol.
Case can be cleaned with alcohol and paper towels or whatever you use to clean your other furniture as long as it's not paint abrasive.
Alternative to compressed air is an air compressor with an air chuck. Some people advise against this due to possible dust getting in there but you should be OK as I've done this at work because we often get a lot of units on a large scale needing cleaned out and it's the only cost-effective way plus the volume is nice.
This is assuming you have normal, house-dust and you don't smoke which is what it looks like. If you smoke near your PC you're fucked for life lol
Come and ask questions.
the sapphire or PCS R390 is good btw
>>51953130
>>51953094
>Unless the case just can't fit a 390 for some reason I see no reason to get a 970 over it as nothing you said was true to any degree that matter aside from the greater price.
Was true for me and the vast majority of my friends that have upgraded. Most people don't buy 1000W PSUs thinking about what new space heater AMD is gonna put out.
And my 970 was cheaper than a 390.
>>51950134
HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHA. Why are you allowed on this board?
>>51953220
You can flash a card and processor to 2500W
XFX R9 390, Powercolor PCS 390, or MSI Gaming 390 if I want to play at 1080p, don't care about OCing, and don't mind if the fans get a little loud, but not consistently jet engine sound?
>>51953208
A 390 will run fine off a 500/550w with plenty headroom you fuck.
Anyone going for a high end build and getting anything less than 600/650w PSUs is an idiot. Never cheap out on the psu.
>>51952878
Get a 270x or gtx 950, and overclock your cpu.
why not just get 290x? is the 390 actually a different card? or..
>>51953289
>A 390 will run fine off a 500/550w with plenty headroom you fuck.
No it won't you fucking idiot. My 2500k @ 4.5, 6 drives, and assorted shit easily consume 300W. A 390 would not work with my 650W PSU. A 970 will.
>>51953337
idk how I have a trip, but okay
>>51953286
Between the MSI, Powercolor and Sapphire Nitro, whichever's the cheapest.
>>51949751
I have 2 of them, the msi ones, and they perform good at 4k
>>51953357
This is exactly the reason I got the 380X.
I wanted the most performance I could squeeze out of my setup before I rebuild for zen.
>970
Modded Skyrim/Fallout
>>51953357
>1080p
Can you use an EVGA G2 550w on an R9 390? The PSU's 80+ Gold for reference.
>>51953357
The 390X uses 250W on full-load. Considering that the 390 is weaker = less power, it would run on a 550W.
http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/msi-radeon-r9-390x-gaming-8g-oc-review,8.html
I have an R9 390 Strix, the cooler on it is horrible. Instantly hits 94c and throttles when benchmarking, can't be overclocked at all and barely fits in my case.
I knew I should've gone MSI.
>>51953567
You should have got anything but ASUS.
Sapphire and Gigabyte also make excellent cards.
>>51953505
>Modded Skyrim/Fallout
I play modded Skyrim and I've never hit 3.5gb even with all 4K textures and an ENB and whatever.
It's a fucking meme. You won't hit it at 1080p.
>>51950129
Funny, mine works great at 1440p. I usually get 100+ fps in all my games on max. The 970 I tried before my 390 couldnt handle running 3 1080p monitors in surround. I was very dissapointed with the 970s performance
>>51953638
Yeah, from the ENB. I don't force it from the driver panel.
>>51953601
>SSAA
>>51953601
Big lie
>shadow of mordor
>>51953357
More like 230w you shill, since pic related shows 4.6, and yours is 4.5.
Hard drives don't use 100w.
>>51953104
1250mhz is the reference speed for 290x memory - a lot of AIB cards bumped it up by a bit (and the top models have it running at 1500mhz which is where the 300 series starts).
My own 290x which only runs a 10mhz OC on the core runs at 1250mhz memory.
>>51953638
>>51953654
Lmao
I bet you're gonna start memeing cuz I can only run MSAA at 4x instead of 8 on GTA5, right?
Kill yourself idiot.
>>51953658
Whatever you say fag. I know I never drop below 60 frames.
>>51953691
No, I mean running it at 1440p and downsampling to 1080p instead of using standard AA techniques.
>>51953706
>No, I mean running it at 1440p and downsampling to 1080p instead of using standard AA techniques.
What's your point?
Games still look good without this when most or all of the settings are maxed.
>>51953691
U are memeing, and amd produces cards that perform better at a better price point. Get over it.
>>51953743
>U are memeing, and amd produces cards that perform better at a better price point. Get over it.
Find me a 390X for the $230 I paid for my 970. Brand new.
I'll wait.
>>51953753
>I'm proud of the gimp card I bought for cheap
>>51953286
Powercolor make the best 390, it's also the cheapest.
>>51953778
>I'm so poorfag that I can't afford HBM when it comes out.
I paid next to nothing for a card that will let me do whatever the fuck I want on 1080p with no problems, and I didn't have to upgrade my PSU. Current cards can hardly run 1440p, much less 4K, so there is no point in getting a monitor like that for gaming.
When HBM comes out there will be.
Enjoy being stuck with your radiator.
>>51953816
R9 390 plays 1440p well, for 330 dollars
>>51953837
>R9 390 plays 1440p well, for 330 dollars
Don't forget to add the $200 PSU and waterblock.
>>51953860
>autism. Big case.
>BEING POOR
>>51953883
>poor
If I wanted to pay $530 for a card I'd just get a 980ti.
>>51953908
That's the cost of a fury that plays 4k well
>>51953929
>That's the cost of a fury that plays 4k well
For 2x the watts, heat, and noise.
>>51953945
>implying 980 to plays anywhere near 4k
>>51953208
You don't need 1000w. I have a 750w and its far more than needed. I still have enough watts to have spare power and hook up and ton of accessories with no trouble. (390, 2 drives, 3 HDDs, 2 SSDs, i5, and typically at least 4 usb devices if not more.) Uses less than 600w. loaded wattage is barely over 500. A 650 ot 750 gives a bit more clearance just in case.
If they are cheaping out that much on a PSU they're build is going to undervolt something and lose a part long the way for it.
970 cost and 390 cost depends on the model. I bought a Sapphire which is just a few dollars cheaper, other models are less now. These are recent prices and I bought it before AMD started dropping prices within the last couple of weeks..
>>51953286
Have a Sapphire but its bulky. XFX is pretty good and normally quiet used on before. MSI is also good not had a GPU by them but other stuff and it looks fairly compact if I recall. Speaking for Sapphire its very quiet as that was a complaint on the 290. I do not know of powercolor.
>>51953974
>4K before HBM
Well if you're stupid I guess you could try.
>>51953860
What kind of third world country do you live in where a reliable 550w psu costs 200 dollars?
>>51953860
Please remember being retarded or being ironically retarded are both just retarded in the end.
>>51954008
>thinking you can get away with a 500W PSU for any AMD card
Do you enjoy housefires? Because this is how you get housefires.
>>51949751
>AMD
Stoped reading
Fucking faggot
>>51954023
If the power isn't enough the system will just turn off.
>>51954023
Memeing, baiting. Dude, amd is superior, the 970 is a trash card get over it
>>51954023
A quaulity 500w psu from the likes of super flower, evga and seasonic will provide over 600w on the 12v rail for peak loads. The average load is the only metric that matters when discussing good power supply units and any good unit will provide their rated wattage on the 12v alone (with other rails being additional wattage).
See: jonnyguru
>>51954023
550 != 500
That's okay anon, maths is hard.
>>51954059
>amd is superior
as reflected by their market share and stock prices, right?
top fucking kek
>>51954059
>AMD is superior
Now thats what i call shitposting
>playing on a toaster with AMD gaypus
>>51954078
So are you saying Twightlight is the greatest piece of literature ever?
>>51954142
I'm saying NVidia has better products and the market agrees.
>>51952488
>r9 cards
>playing with artifacts
Hahahahahahaha
Sure you get more fps because aint rendering correctly
>>51954183
>yfw until 2014 or so Nvidia couldn't display full range over hdmi
Good goy.
>>51954142
Still better than your shit card
>>51953317
R9 cards, speccialy the 280x are artifacts producers. They are shit
former 980ti user here...
i had a strange suspicion from many of the benchmark websites, so i bought mine from a store i could directly return for a full refund if i dont like it
well im sure glad i did this, after running my own real world benchmarks and not trusting the paid tomshardware shill, i found the 980ti to be roughly 5fps faster than a radeon 290x for virtually all games
seriously glad i didnt pay 800$ for 5fps
got a used 290x from ebay for 210$
best purchase ever
and i used the extra money i saved to buy a dual socket system which is much better than owning dual gpu's or one very expensive gpu which is only 5fps faster on average
seriously, fuck that
fuck nvidia
never agin
>>51954158
The market also agrees that the twilight saga was a great series of movies.
Are you agreeing with that?
>>51954219
>loving artifacts on 80fps
Sure faggot. Stupid chinese shit lover
>>51954245
It did something right, as in, it pandered to an easy target audience.
>>51954244
Cool story bro. Why didnt you mention your PCI 2.0 MOBO?
>>51954219
>>51954269
>salty 970/780ti users detected
Enjoy your 7970 performance lol.
AMD - artifacts medÃocre driverless
>>51954295
It doesn't matter.
>>51954305
Honestly i have a 280x so yeah im salty about it
>>51951160
>>51953567
ASUS for any AMD card is the biggest cuckfest ever. They just take their NoVidya cooler designs and slap them on the AMD dies with no alterations, which translates as they fucking suck. As the die is smaller, 2 of the 5 heatpipes don't even touch the die. Yet they think they can get away with charging a 20% premium over other brands..
Had an ASUS DirectCUII R9 290, never buying an ASUS GPU ever again. Under normal load GPU was at 90C, didn't even try to OC it because it probably would have caught fire..
Strixx has exactly the same problem if you look up reviews, fine for Jewvidia but shit for AMD..
>>51954305
You do realise your benchmark shows a 970 outperforming a 780 ti, don't you?
No nvidia shill would be this stupid, right?
Also 7970 almost matching a 780 ti? Remind me again why I shouldn't buy AMD when their GPUs age so much better.
>>51954321
>doesnt matta, hurr je suis artifacts. Me lovy lovy low performance. Me 2.0 PCI on 3.0 board.
Gtfo faggot.
>>51951062
Black friday deals for 390's weren't that great...
>>51954361
>Also 7970 almost matching a 780 ti? Remind me again why I shouldn't buy AMD when their GPUs age so much better.
Muh gamesworks, muh tessellation, muh driver gimping a year.
>>51954361
Artifacting, driver crashes, twice the power draw...
That's a lot of shit to put up with for a bit more performance over 2 years, at which point you should upgrade anyway.
>>51954340
>forgot pic
>>51954408
For the lower-end AMD GPUs they're alright, but for the 290 and up they're garbage. I'd say Sapphire, MSI, Powercolor or bust.
>>51954408
I must admit their fury cooler does look sexy as fuck, but the performance ain't worth it.
If aint artifacting, aint AMD
/thread
Do any anon know which Fury card is the best?
>>51954474
I'm just gonna say Sapphire.
>>51954366
arent most nvidia users niggers though?
nvidia attracts much of the weeb audience including all the black weebs
>>51954474
Sapphire is GOAT AMD, they manufacture the 'reference' PCB's for AMD before they even start with their own cooler designs. Look back at Vapor-X for a few cards and it's been consistently one of the best designs (excluding enthusiast-tier MSI Lightning etc.)
>>51954393
>upgrade after 2 years
What I thought it was like 5....
That is a lot of money to throw out ever 2 years.
>>51954393
I'm still using a hd 5870, and overdue for an upgrade.
Had zero driver issues so far, except for not getting crimson. But after 5 years I'm not really bothered, might wait for a r9 480x.
A good rule of thumb is to not upgrade until a card offers double performance. So that translates to 7870 -> 290x, 7970 -> fury/fury x, 290x-> nothing, except maybe 295x2.
>>51954340
Oh no no I agree but I checked the cooler out since this was a used item. I removed the cooler, cleaned the PCB and all the dust out and whatnot, lubricated the fans, reapplied THE RIGHT amount of a high quality thermal paste and nice and tightly applied the cooler.
There are only two pipes and they are both proper pipes.
Thing only hits 66c under max load OC (1075/1500). I like it and it only cost me ~3 hours of work so it's a good cost/perf.
I have a R9 290X tri-x. It has served me quite well, however i need to use a ziptie between the plastic on the fans and my case since otherwise it will make a rattling sound above 55C +. My card can also sometimes go up to 78 + and that along with noise kind of makes me want to get a new GPU. It's really silent when not playing games, or when not playing demanding games. However when the fan speeds go over 45 + you do hear it. Idle temp is also 50c sometimes.
Just not sure if i'm gonna go for a R9 390 next time or a 980.
>>51950669
I have the msi r9 390 and playing games on ultra it usually doesn't get over 80c stays within the 71c-76c. Not sure what you friend is doing.
I'm upgrading from a 1gb 650 to a 4gb 380. I cannot wait.
>>51954373
Lol right? Best deal I saw was $289 for the msi variant
>falling for the 970 meme
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
how do AMD card naming system work?
Like for example Nvidia has been using the x50,x60,x70 system(950,960,760 etc)
Is AMD similar? like a 370 is the equivalent to a 970? and a 390 to a 980ti?
>>51955407
380 is closest to a 960
390 is closest to 970
Nvidia fags will go on this thread just to talk shit.
>Nvidia fags will defend this.
what are good 380 manufacturers?
in terms of price where i live from lowest to highest:
3 gigabyte versions, vtx3d, xfx, sapphire, his, powercolor, asus, xfx black, asus strix
mostly concerned with temps/noise, as i guess performance diffirence wont be noticeable.
>>51955543
so a 360 and a 370 are beyond awful?
whats the equivalent to a 980 and a 980ti?
I got an ASUS R9 380 2GB model, it was the only one in my budget
did I fuck up?
>>51955612
The 390X is positioned just below the 980 in terms of price, but trades blows with it in certain situations.
The Fury is positioned just above the 980 but is more focused on 4K and it trades blows with it at 1080p.
The 980Ti competitor is the Fury X, which gets outperformed at 1080p, trades blows at 1440p and usually wins at 4K.
>>51955662
lets say i'm a retard(i'm actually a retard), do AMD really expects people to understand this?
>380,390,390x,Fury, Fury X
its like they thought we gonna cheat this faggots with bigger numbers AND then a full name! this gonna blow their minds!
its too hard
>>51955590
sapphire or msi
>>51955700
It makes a bit more sense when you look at the actual silicon. The 380 and 380X are based on the same chip, just like the 390 and 390X and NVidia's GTX 980 and 970 or 960 and 950.
>>51955700
Well it used to just end at x90x, I think they expected HBM to work out a loud better than it did, hence going back to old ati days with the fury x name
>>51955779
HB, is a solution to a problem that doesn't exist yet, but will very quickly. Namely to get more bandwidth from GRRD5 you simply slap on more modules which is a fast way to raise power draw due to the memory controller and the chips themselves. HBM solves this problem entirely but right now no high end card is bandwidth limited.
That said high end cards WILL start to suffer the limitations of GDDR5 soon so HBM is effectively AMD's testbed for arctic island cards. Re,e,mber last time Nvidia jumpedo n a new node and new memory the 480 happened so AMD were probably smart to use fury as a testbed.
>>51950631
>posts Total War framerate test
>"synthetic benchmarks"
How can you be this retarded, anon?
>>51955964
The delusion is strong on /v/ and /g/ to defend Huang's honour.
>>51955407
>how do AMD card naming system work?
Cards based on the same microchip get the same number (X being a higher-binned card).
The 370 is based on the Pitcairn microchip. The 380 and 380X are based on Tonga. The 390 and 390X are baised on Hawaii. And the Fury and Fury X (and Fury Nano) are based on Fiji.
To me it makes more sense than Nvidia's arbitrary naming that says nothing about what chip the graphics card uses.
>>51950406
just go with the msi 390 its much shorter if its cant fit... fucking stop buying 12$ cases and get a actualy good one
>>51956094
Every +100 is a new chip? Or atleast a new gen.
>>51949751
I have an R9 290. 1080p, ultra settings, most games stay 60fps or more. As for brand, the Sapphire Tri-X cooler is the best for temps and it's not that loud. The Asus STRIX cooler is quieter, but it also performs much worse.
>>51954474
Sapphire's seem to have the highest chance to unlock to a Fury X based on [H] results, with MSI being the second most likely, but you also have to live with the fact that you're gonna be dealing with Athlon Micro of you ever have to RMA it
As far as prices go, you really can't beat this for an OC'd non-reference PCB model
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202187
>>51950129
>nvidia gaymworks
of course you fucking idiot
>>51952418
nice try nvidia shill have yet to find a game were I hit under 60fps on max settings in any game with my 390
>>51956175
Every +10 is a new chip, with the X version being the fully-enabled one.
