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Is DDR4 a meme? It seems far more efficient to buy a DDR3 1151 Skylake motherboard and reuse the 8Gb of DDR3 RAM you already have.
Am I wrong?
>>51949390
Prices have gone way down. It's an incremental upgrade. It's far faster on a lot less voltage. Not a meme.
In /g/ everything is a meme
>>51949390
it's better but there's little need for it.
As if you were to get a HDMI cable that supports resolutions over 20K yet you only have a full HD tv anyway.
>>51949390
prices aren't that high anymore. but yes, it isn't that much of an upgrade.
if you want efficient, go X99. you get DDR4, good boards, m.2 and all the good stuff, but avoid skymeme. you'll be able to upgrade to broadwell-e when it comes out too.
>>51949390
Not a meme. You get faster access for less voltage. And by now the prices are almost the same.
>>51949662
For a new system, it's something you might consider. Not worth it to upgrade yet.
Absolutely, for intel anyway. The iGPU on the skylake chips is such a horrible piece of shit that even with 2133 MHz DDR4 it still gets shit on by a $80 A8-7600.
It would however benefit Zen APUs but only if they accept dual-channel 3,200 MHz DDR4. This would give iGPUs on the Zen APUs 50% more bandwidth than dual-channel 2133 MHz DDR3. This increased bandwidth paired with 640 gcn cores would be enough for playing vydia on low 1080p settings or high 720p settings at decent framerates (~60 FPS). Current A8/A10 APUs are only good for playing vydia on low-medium 720p settings. This is all assuming you give a shit about iGPU performance and don't use a dedicated GPU.
>gaymen RAM
no, you won't ever see a difference.
skylake is also overpriced shit.
just stick with sandy bridge or haslel until Zen or cannonlake.
>>51951116
this
Don't know Family,
I got 32Giggles of that meme for my Skymeme.
Did I got meme'd?
>nah, man
>>51949484
>hdmi cable that supports 20k
>hdmi
>20k
>>51951116
>but only if they accept dual-channel 3,200 MHz DDR4
You *need* to start reading up on things before you give your opinion on something.
One of the main advantages of DDR4 over DDR3 is that DDR4 gives you one channel per stick of RAM. That means that in a system with four sticks of RAM you're getting twice the memory bandwidth over DDR3 at the same clock speed. DDR4 will be more than worth it for Bristol Ridge.
>>51954046
So does DDR3. Quad-channel RAM motherboards (especially DDR4) are expensive as fuck (read for servers) and will never make it to consumers. The most likely scenario is dual channel ddr4 for bristol ridge,
>>51954046
Nice subtle bait
>>51954046
>quad-channel RAM on a consumer grade budget motherboard
Bruh
>>51951116
what a crock of shit
>ever paying for 3200 RAM
You know you just sacrifice latency for frequency at that level and it just cancels itself out
You are literally paying more money for the sake of a higher looking number in the ram name
>>51954046
>One of the main advantages of DDR4 over DDR3 is that DDR4 gives you one channel per stick of RAM
No. This is absolutely wrong.
DDR4 can do this with less complexity than DDR3, but this statement holds no truth beyond that whatsoever. Socket AM4 only supports dual channel memory, having 4 DIMMs installed in a board will not give you quad channel bandwidth.
>>51954622
Entry level DDR4 isn't a real improvement latency wise, but newer kits are improving on that.
http://www.corsair.com/en-us/blog/2014/september/ddr3_vs_ddr4_synthetic
Article compares kits with very flat timings.
>>51954622
It would give more raw bandwidth to iGPUs you tard. 3.2 ghz ddr4 in DC mode gives 51.2gb/s of bandwidth compared to 34.1gb/s that 2.1 ghz ddr3 in DC node would give you.
The reason why current APUs are dogshit is because they are heavily bandwidth starved. Even entry level dedicated GPUs have 70-100gb/s of gddr5 vram bandwidth.
>>51954622
Do you even know what an APU is?
Bump, interesting bread
>>51949404
>far faster
DDR3 1866 is the fastest performance ram out.
DDR4 CAS is so damn high it offsets its speed completely.
>>51955824
There are plenty of CL11-12 2400mhz kits out there, and regardless you're still completely fucking wrong. Don't talk out of your ass about easily verifiable facts.
is overclocking ram worth it?
>>51955877
Only if you have an APU.
>>51955877
No, hd 530 only accepts up to 2133mhz ddr4. If you OC the ram to 4000mhz, you will have literally 0 performance improvement.
>>51955871
>nanosecond
>SheGoesToHisSchool.gif
What kind of difference will I be expecting /g/?
>>51956071
34.1GB/s RAM transfer speeds. This is really pointless unless you want a faster iGPU. I'm assuming you have a dedicated GPU.
>>51956197
Forgot to add, 400mhz DDR2 in dual channel mode gives you 6.4GB/s of bandwidth which very few programs can saturate.
>>51949390
>implying i'm running ddr3 and not ddr2
go meme yourself, memester
>>51956197
>>51956219
some shitty gt630 that will soon be meme 3.5 970 pajeet jetstream
>saturate
you mean there's not much point if its just for gaming that if a mobo can allow ddr2 in current gen it wont matter?
>>51956275
Pretty much. What has mattered in vydia gaems the most is VRAM bandwidth speed/gpu core count and single thread cpu performance for the most part.
>>51956354
Thanks I'll buy the generic ones then
>>51956071
>>51956391
Every fucking time
>>51956391
what the fuck is this
>>51956376
You should at least get 800mhz ddr2 ram. Not because of performance but because people might think you're 70 or something.
How crippled will I be by using 1x8GB stick instead of 2x4GB?
It's cheaper to go 1x8.
>>51949390
This chart shows you the actual responsiveness you should expect in ns from the ram you buy. Make of it what you will.
DDR4 cost the same as DDR3 in Norway now.
If your are getting a Skylake CPU get a DDR4 motherboard.
>>51955871
The would be a great graph if the most common CAS latency for DDR4 wasn't 15 right now. It's not where it needs to be yet, and even if it was, it was shown a long time ago that faster RAM isn't very important anyway.
>>51957508
ddr4 shill pls go
I think my RAM is dying.
I scavenged the sticks from my old rig (built in 2010, 4x 4GB @ 1333x) and when I put them in my new PC the mobo threw a hissy fit and refused to run them in quad-chanel configuration, so I've since been working with only 8GB.
Now admittedly the DIMMs weren't matched, but they were by the same manufacturer, same product line and ran at the same speed so it should have been fine.
Anyway if I need at least 16GB, which of these is the best for price:performance? Is it worth risking getting 4x4 again with my finnicky mobo?
Can't you guys just download more RAM?
DDR4 isn't but anything over 8gb for gaming is a meme.
>>51957751
Will it be useful when you have processes running in the background like music and browser with 30+tabs
>>51957779
No. I had csgo open and accidently clicked into gta v + had 10 tabs going and musicbee running. I don't think it used more than 6.5gb
More than 8gb is for video editing and stuff like that. 8gb is plenty for games, and you can always upgrade to 16gb later saving you $50-$100 on your build.
>Red and Black Mobo
Im getting G skill to complement it
>>51957751
when you have a really shitty game like Wurm Online thats stricken with memory leaks and the devs dont care to fix it, so you regularly are stuck with all 8gb used until you inevitably crash, you do sometimes wish maybe you had more.
either that or wish for better devs
>>51957871
Why play broken games?
>>51954444
Incorrect. X99 supports quad channel DDR4.
>>51957895
its the only one like it :(
im addicted and i like the community
>>51957987
mmo feels, I used to play silkroad online. that shit ran on high on a pentium 4, 2gb ram and some rand nvidia card.
>>51957751
Elite Dangerous recommends a minimum of 16 gb for the SteamVR version
>>51953981
>not understanding the point they were making
>being this austistic
>>51957820
>my particular experience says X, therefore, you should X
>>51958344
Yeah nah, stfu idiot.
If you're into vidya, which is precisely the reason I can imagine anyone jumping to DDR4 would use, it doesn't seem worth it at all
>>51956464
Magi ( an anime )
>>51956391
This is complete bullshit
>>51949390
>and reuse the 8Gb of DDR3 RAM you already have.
Then why bother a new system at all?
>>51960660
oh wow
>>51949390
interestingly enough I run a game server that has much better and stable performance on DDR4 than DDR3.
>>51949469
People make fun of 9fag but 4chan is becoming strikingly similar with al the shitposting. Its not even funny shitposting anymore where actual memes originate from, now its just morons typing down "lel, le brand x or technology y meme" whenever a product is mentioned.
Faster RAM does give you better performance.
See FO4 for example. Yes the game is unoptimized, but exactly because of that, you can see the performance difference.
Also DDR4 is far better than DDR3, the memory controller on Skylake is much better than anything before.
Latency is also way overrated, more frequience is always more important in terms of bandwidth.
The best affordable ram you should get right now is 16GB DDR4 3200 CL16 for around $110.
This is futureproof talking.
>>51964374
You're an idiot, outside of that bethesda fiasco they call a game DDR4 has no real world improvement in over 90% of applications.
If you actually do need so much fucking bandwidth then you would buy a quad-channel DDR3 Haswell-E motherboard like a normal human being. It can deliver up to 68GB/s of RAM bandwidth.
>>51960585
>>51957586
Does your mobo even support quad channel? If not, just get two DIMMs
>>51964537
X99 uses DDR4 you fucking imbecile Granted I still think ddr4 is a meme on desktops that have a dedicated gpu.
