So I just got my server parts for building my first server. So let's build a server!
Supermicro 16-bay chassis, 920w redundant PSU
X10SRL-F motherboard
Intel Xeon e5-1620 V3
4x 8GB Intel DDR4-2133
8x 4TB WD Red
2x Plextor MLC SSDs
2x LSI 9211-8i HBAs
Post your servers and what you use them for. If you have any suggestions for me, I'm all ears. I'll sit down and build this guy now.
>>51921843
How much did it cost you?
>>51922161
Around $3000. I just finished unpacking and getting everything sorted out and installing the motherboard. Now the CPU and heatstink!
Why do you even need a server for?
>>51922344
Media library and other things. I'll probably set it up as a VPN server too.
I just realized the rear fans' plugs won't reach.. guess I'll have to buy some extensions, oh well.
>>51922380
Will you consider using it as a web or email server? I've heard that's a big jump in how worried you have to be about security.
How would you use it as a VPN server (serious question)?
Looks dope, anon.
>>51922410
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Setting_up_a_Server
At least! Someone knows if there's some improvement on putting the hardware in the wall? I saw some anons doing it and I don't know if there's some advantage besides the place it lets free.
Whew this didn't take me too long.
>>51922410
Web server? No use for me, I don't run anything like that.
E-mail? Eh, too much trouble to setup honestly.
VPN server is all I need so I can remotely connect to my home network and watch stuff from plex.
>>51922539
Not really, my server is in my room so there's nobody here who'd try to mess with it and a table is just fine. I did buy some sorbothane legs though to keep vibrations to a minimum.
![Netgear_cg3100_large.jpg[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/VFtJqZI.png "Netgear_cg3100_large.jpg[1].png")
>>51922646
My room is pretty small, and I'm thinking on getting an Orange PI to run my 1st home server (I won't need too much power) but even in that case, I can't fit it in any clean place. SO I though on getting it box, and hanging it on the wall.
The same as router (pic related) but my room it is also hot as fuck, so I wan't to keep it cool (he's now equilibrated in some thin support who let the air flows in ALL the holes)
Well I just finished installing FreeNAS and I'm running some SMART tests with the HDDs to see if anything bad comes up. Probably run badblocks afterwards too to be sure.
Flashing the HBAs to IT firmware wasn't that hard either, thank god I didn't brick them. Speeds are great honestly, although CIFS shares seem to be faster than NFS when connecting with Windows clients.
The only thing I feel somewhat bad about is how the case is laid out for the far right HDDs. If you look inside, right behind the 2 right HDDs there's the PSU, not a fan. These two HDDs are ~2°C hotter than the other ones, but all approx. 33°C, so I'm happy with that considering the noise level is surprisingly low and I can always increase fan speeds. So if you ever buy a case like this, just try to get one perhaps where there's 4 fans and the PSU isn't right behind a layer of HDDs.
I'll have to figure out how to properly network everything.. I think FreeNAS comes with pf, right? I'll want to make sure some jails like plex aren't accessible from the outside. Oh well, here's where the real tinkering fun begins!
>>51923480
That's a pretty awesome setup, anon.
I plan on getting a PERC H310 and flashing the IT firmware. Then I'll get 8 2TB drives off craigslist. Some dude is selling "over 100" of the nice Hitachi enterprise class drives for $35 each. They were probably used in a data center, but they're cheap and reliable.
My current home server is an old desktop. Athlon II X3, 8GB DDR2, 64GB SSD for Fedora 23 Server, four 2TB hard drives for storage.
I'll see if I can get a current picture in a little while.
im going to need to do build/buy another one soon
I just lost a drive on my RAID, and I'm waiting till around Christmas to buy a new one.
I'm thinking of building another server as a backup for my current one. The new one is gonna be a proper one since I built my last one out of a Fractal R4 case.
>>51923708
Neat, just make sure the PERC H310 is compatible with the rest of your hardware and OS. But it goes for much less than my LSI 9211 on ebay, so that's a good deal.
That hitachi deal sounds really good anon, I'd get even more as cold spares just in case. $35 is cheap as hell.
>>51924471
Instead of buying another server as backup, you could just use 2 disk mirrors, which is far more reliable than any RAID setup honestly. This is a great article that also applies to non-zfs systems: http://jrs-s.net/2015/02/06/zfs-you-should-use-mirror-vdevs-not-raidz/
Yes you lose disk space, but you gain speed and reliability.
>>51924504
>Instead of buying another server as backup, you could just use 2 disk mirrors,
I didn't mention that I'm planning on getting another server because I'm finally moving out my mom's house and I'd like to leave one server there as an offsite backup. Maybe have it come online and R-Sync once a month or so.
>>51923908
how hard is it to do this kind of thing if i have 0 knowledge of networks (or at least some to understand what this picture is about)
>>51924600
its not necessarily hard, the point is being able to practice. just takes some initial money for the hardware. i get all of my os's for free from dreamspark and use the free version of esxi
>>51924600
I set up a FreeNAS box with no trouble, but >>51923908 seems to be way more involved than anything I did.
>>51924504
>I'd get even more as cold spares just in case. $35 is cheap as hell.
I was planning on getting 10 or 12, and have the extras as sitting spares. Might even be able to get the price down a bit, buying that many at once.
Here's a picture of my home made rack. The 2u case is a Smoothwall. The 4u is my home server. The 1u is a DL360 G5, which I don't use right now (too power hungry and loud). I got the two 2u UPSes a few months ago to replace the giant non-rackmountable UPS I had in there. Only the bottom UPS is being used, the top one need batteries.
Sorry the picture look so bad, my phone's camera sucks balls.
>>51922380
>$3000 media server
>>51924737
>I'm poor
It's not just a media server anon, I can't go into detail but it's money well spent in my opinion. My bank account is still doing pretty well.
And besides, good hardware isn't cheap.
>>51924766
Pretty sure my 500 euro home server can do exactly the same
>>51924830
Sure, post your specs and what you use it for. You know my hardware, don't just tell me yours does the same without giving any specifics..
>>51924734
That's a cute rack, I've been trying to find a decent rack for my server but they're all pretty expensive. I guess I could do a LackRack. Good thing you got a UPS, I got one too here. I can't believe this whole server with 8 drives only sucks 100 watts under medium load, efficient as fuck. I haven't encoded anything yet since I'm still in the burn in phase.
Where do you guys find used rackmount equipment? I found an IBM x3650 M2, 2 e5506, 8GB EEC, a 146GB SAS, with all of its caddies for $300, but cant find any decent switch or router on kijiji.
>>51924967
Yeah, there's a part of me that wants to try using the DL360 for encoding video, but I am not sure if it would be faster than my Skylake i7 in my desktop. The DL360 has dual Xeon E5405, so it's pretty old.
>>51925024
Craigslist usually has a lot of stuff, if that's an option in your locale.
You can set up your own cloud storage. A secure and encrypted email server can also be set up with open source tutanota. I also recently saw someone have their own streaming service on their home server, there are simple solutions for that as well
>>51924600
Just use a old computer as a server
>>51925082
Kijiji is basically Canada's craigslist. I will just have to wait on the switch, but I'm tempted to go pick up that server.
>>51925175
Yeah, that does look like a nice server. You could almost certainly put normal SATA drives in the caddies. Maybe add a bit more RAM and it would be a really nice server.
>>51924967
30TB storage / vpn / teamspeak server / plex server / 2-3 game servers for friends / mail server / pentest lab / learning lab / cloud for friends & family many many more
This all on a free server and i bought some extra parts during the months
Surely protecting your home server is related to this thread right? Anything else I should be doing to protect ssh on my server, only have fail2ban installed with a 19 hour ban time at the moment.
2015-12-17 21:05:20,929 fail2ban.actions: WARNING [ssh] Ban 43.229.53.97
2015-12-17 22:24:22,750 fail2ban.actions: WARNING [ssh] Ban 188.126.90.74
2015-12-18 01:59:47,661 fail2ban.actions: WARNING [ssh] Ban 178.70.5.238
2015-12-18 04:38:33,661 fail2ban.actions: WARNING [ssh] Ban 193.104.41.54
2015-12-18 05:24:45,132 fail2ban.actions: WARNING [ssh] Ban 180.250.66.131
2015-12-18 07:12:36,218 fail2ban.actions: WARNING [ssh] Ban 58.218.211.38
>>51926892
In the Jails.conf file, whitelist your IP address, if you do not have a static IP address, setup dynamic dns and use that hostname.
You don't want to lose your keys.
>>51923480
Why buy a power hungry Xeon E5 for a NAS?
>>51926892
Use Keys only for logging in or whitelist local range and use vpn from home.
Should still use Keys for logging in
>>51924967
I use a raspberry pi B for HTTP, FTP, IRC and IPFS. I'm setting up a mail server too. Currently I'm at about 6 KiB memory usage, with no traffic. And costs a fraction of a fraction. It's not like it's anything professional. Might upgraded to a 2 B though.
>>51923480
Why don't you virtualize freenas so you can run much more then only freenas, security and firewalling is also a very important part of networks.
Tbh those specs for freenas only seems way overkill
>>51921843
are you going to RAID those disks anon or do jbod
>>51921843
you could have spent $35 on a pi and not pay power bills out the ass
>>51923908
>4 cores
>20 vm's
that's some nice overprovisiong
you have (looking at the vm names) at least 10 Windows machines, it's just a lab right? that setup would shit the bed under any load
>>51928728
Are you having a laugh m8
>>51921843
>there is retards that actually spend 3k to store their chinese porn
Kill yourself please
I just came here to laugh at this retarded OP
This is almost how my "homeserver" looks like (I removed the leds)
500/500 FTTH j1900 mobo fanless psu and HGST NAS silent as fuck drives, small silent cute, more than powerful enough for everything 1/5 price of that useless shit that OP wasted his money in and 1/20 the power waste
>>51929581
HOW MANY USABLE TB
>>51930027
5 3TB 1 6TB I got the drives pretty cheap
You literally DON'T need this shit you just DO FUCKING NOT need it
>oh I want le storage
Put more drives inside your pc you fucking cunt
>oh I want le lots of ram
PUT IT IN YOUR FUCKING PC
>but I want le fuvking xeon
GET A FUCKING XEON AND EMPLACE IT WITHIN YOUR COMPUTER
Everything you fucking CUNTS put in servers can go in your personal cuck and you can fucking call it a 'workstation' and feel even more special
YOU FUCKING INEPT, MUNDANE, INANE, ASININE, MORONIC, ABSURD, MEANINGLESS INSIPID CUNTS
>>51925024
You know my city has a store where all of the used equipment goes for sale, I got a rack server for 18 dollars I forgot the model but it was really thin and had two hard drive slot
>>51930177
SO JBOD, ZERO REDUNDANCY?
THATS LIVING ON THE EDGE
DO YOU NOT GIVE A SHIT ABOUT YOUR CHINESE CARTOON PORN
About to get my first homeserver for some NAS and maybe 2 wm-s, is HP MicroServer Gen8 with G1620T an okay choice? What could be the alternative for the same amount of money(300euros without hdd's and 4gb ram) and power consumption? Europe btw.
>buying a xeon over an i7
>>51930368
Nope, 2x2 raid, the fifth one is for backups of my computer and the 6TB one for disposable backlog and private trackers buffer/media storage and random crap, still I don't think they are going to die soon
i got sick of fucking around with different git servers and just used gitlab
tfw forced to use 1gb ram for a centos vm because of ruby
>>51930421
2X2 MIRRORING?
SO 6TB USABLE IN THE ARRAY AND 9TB STANDALONE, 15TB SERVER?
HGST NAS ARE ALMOST ENTERPRISE GRADE, THEY SHOULDN'T DIE WITHOUT WARNING BUT ITS RANDOM BY BATCH REALLY
>>51930508
Why do you keep using caps
And yeah, 15
>not having a fanless home server
It's also equipped with 16GB RAM, 64GB SSD under the 1TB HDD and a wifi n/ac card (under 500GB HDD). Soon I'm gonna upgrade it to 2x2TB HDDs and 2x4TB HDDs via USB 3.0 line.
It's completely quiet and it draws like 15W of power under full load. Runs Debian.
>>51930379
you could make a cheap mini itx build for that cheaper.
>>51930218
You dont know anything, keep paying to rent a server.
Xeons are fine depending on the task specially if you want some power for virtualizing you'd love xeons over i5-i7s that are less powerful on multicore tasks
>>51930632
I see a fan
Also, here >>51929581 a fanless one
>>51930508
By chance, are you Indian? I read everything you write as quiet, yet exasperated, yelling.
>he spent $3000 on a media server
Wow. A $500 pc could do exactly the same thing and you would notice literally no difference. A $100 used PC could do almost the same thing (maybe not multiple simultaneous DSD and HEVC encodes for streaming).
I bet you have this monstrosity plugged into your $50 consumer router with a 233 Mhz SoC and 8MB flash ROM.
I've got a server built from consumer parts, 6x3TB RAID6 storage. It runs Samba, OpenVPN, Plex, Subsonic, TS3, rtorrent + rutorrent and apcupsd,.
>>51930758
The fan is completely optional.
Who SPARC here?
Check out my 120TB, completely redundant environment.
>>51931738
New PowerEdges look so nice.
>>51930632
Who makes this thing? I've seen vista era dells and hp likes it.
>>51930218
what if you like high-end technology and would rather surround yourself with nice things you enjoy instead of living an empty minimalist lifestyle to please equally empty hipsters on the internet?
>>51928495
100% this
>2015
>not running virtualized servers
>>51931779
Yeah, they do. I actually have some pictures of the Dell racks in the DC somewhere, let me checl. Supermicro is utter crap.
>>51931738
get them in a rack with a UPS where they belong, seriously nice looking bits of kit.
>>51931779
> muh dell poweredge
NSA likes them too. They love the nice SPI flash BIOS and extra flash storage the RAID cards provide... All so they can run inside ME.
www.libreboot.org/faq/#intelme
>>51931831
NICE IS VERY IMPORTANT
>>51931905
They are, see picture.
>>51931915
Oh just fuck off.
>>51931779
Check out our brand new rack.
>>51932070
>IMPLYING HE'S WRONG
NOT THAT IT MATTERS, LITERALLY EVERYTHING IS ROOTABLE BY THE NSA
>>51932070
a full pic of that rack
>>51932099
I know it's true, but like you say.. everything is. I can't spend fucking months which hardware to buy and software to use that NSA can't fuck with. They have backdoors in shit we don't even know about.
>>51932087
>>51932070
>>51932109
>>51932150
Noice
>>51931915
You could probably make that argument for any enterprise system made within the last five or so years, maybe even ten.
>>51932163
>You could probably make that argument for any enterprise system made within the last five or so years, maybe even ten.
Yep. We should rename x86 to the Dick Cheney architecture. He owns it.
You all gotta stop buying Intel, for gawd's sake. Get behind ARM, or some other arch that doesn't use microcode and support RING -3 bullshit.
Last pick, the top part, a cloud environment. with hypervisors.
>>51932239
forgot pic
>>51932235
>Get behind ARM
I can't imagine that being any better, manufacturers can easily incorporate NSA sponsored blobs of shit into custom SoCs.
>>51932163
https://forums.juniper.net/t5/Security-Incident-Response/Important-Announcement-about-ScreenOS/ba-p/285554
>>51932268
When you buy Intel, you are *knowingly* buying a CPU that has a separate CPU on-die (ARC?) running an OS (ThreadX) you can't control. Which exposes itself on your PCI bus, has full access to memory, can be reprogrammed, and sometimes even has its own MAC address on your network.
>>51932312
Could you link me to some more information on that? I tried looking for it but couldn't find anything useful.
>>51932462
www.libreboot.org/faq/#intelme
>>51932462
Also..
http://blog.invisiblethings.org/2015/10/27/x86_harmful.html
>>51932480
>>51932498
I found this more interesting and it has a lot of references too http://www.slideshare.net/codeblue_jp/igor-skochinsky-enpub
Any good place for cheap LTO4 drives? Can be used as long as they aren't completely abused in an autoloader
I sometimes get lucky on shitbay but was wondering if there was any other good site.
>>51930177
>3tb
>reliable
>>51930632
>fanless
>has a fan
>>51921843
>buying parts for a homeserver
>not getting something recently offleased and focusing costs on storage
ur dum
>have to use supermicro ipmi
Anyone else know this pain?
>>51928495
I thought FreeNAS did shitty on VMs because of fs limitations.
>>51923480
>FreeNAS on a $3000 machine
>not hypervisor
What a fucking meme
>>51926892
why would you even forward ssh connections? Can you seriously not into VPN?
>>51930399
>buying a current gen xeon new
>>51931689
I have a vacuum cleaner too
>>51931915
it's hopeless to even care about that in enterprise
>>51925167
Not sure why people recommend doing this unless you don't need it to run 24/7.
Old hardware consumes much more power than new shit.
>>51922410
>How would you use it as a VPN server (serious question)?
You install OpenVPN on it and configure it to run as a server. Or Windows Server and the Routing and Remote Access components, and configure those to act as a VPN server.
>>51925236
>30TB storage / vpn / teamspeak server / plex server / 2-3 game servers for friends / mail server / pentest lab / learning lab / cloud for friends & family many many more
This is what /g/ is about, doing useful things with technology, not the faggotry in the OP
>>51927990
>Freenet is better than IPFS
>>51933158
>I thought FreeNAS did shitty on VMs because of fs limitations.
PCI PASSTHROUGH
>>51933306
What there is to care about in enterprise is literally the backdoors that might have been added and can/could be used by anyone?
like what happend with juniper, and they say they don't know how it got there that's pretty weird in my eyes to be fair.
>>51931831
>what if you like high-end technology and would rather surround yourself with nice things you enjoy instead of living an empty minimalist lifestyle to please equally empty hipsters on the internet?
>d-damage control
>>51930632
>15W of power under full load
wut
>>51933659
I didn't say it wasn't important
I said it was hopeless.
At the rate new hardware versions move, and the current willingness for OEMs to bend over makes it hopeless
Imo, the only way we will see attention to this issue if more Juniper style incidents occur and corporats see that there is a serious security threat from using bd'd hardware
What do you guys use your servers for?
>>51933804
hentai porn
So my little sister and her friends like to play minecraft and i would like to build a dedicated server for her but it shouldnt consume a assload of power
ive been thinkin about a ASRock Q1900B-ITX board with Celeron J1900 cpu but even this pice of shit consumes 30w in idle at least thats what tomshardware says
so do you guys have any tips to cut down energy ?
>>51933845
just get a VPS (?)
>>51929581
what case?
>>51933964
They are way too expensive cheapest ive found was 7,99 €
and worst of all have a data cap
>>51933845
try a n3150?
>>51930379
It's a nice machine, especially for the price.
I run 7 VM with mine
>>51930218
>>51930368
Somebody is very angry...
This is gen1 of my test lab. Currently building gen2.
From top to bottom:
Dell Latitude XT3 (Admin console - 2nd gen i3 something, 8GB RAM, 128GB SSD)
Cisco MDS9134 - 4GB Fiber switch
Cisco Catalyst 2960S-10G 48 port gig-e switch
Raritan KX2-32 - 32 port KVM over IP
Dell PE2950 - ESXi testing - 2x Xeon 5440, 32GB RAM, 5x 146GB 10K SAS
Dell PE R900 - Hyper-V heavy lifting - 4x Xeon 7460, 256GB RAM, 8x 146GB 10K SAS
Dell PE R900 - Hyper-V heavy lifting - 4x Xeon 7460, 256GB RAM, 8x 146GB 10K SAS
Dell PE2950 - 2x Xeon 5440, 32GB RAM, 8x 146GB 10K SAS
Dell PE2950 - 2x Xeon 5440, 32GB RAM, 8x 146GB 10K SAS
EMC Clariion AX4 DAE - 12x 600GB 15K SAS
EMC Clariion AX4 DAE - 12x 600GB 15K SAS
EMX Clariion AX4-5f - 12x 600GB 15K SAS
All fiber is 4gb, rj45 black is management (kvm, DRAC, etc), rj45 blue is non-management (heartbeat, client, server interconnect, etc).
The upgrade is essentially just going to the next version of what's already racked. 2950's to R710s, R900's to R910's. Haven't decided on storage yet, may just end up going with a few Dell MD1220's.
>>51934140
Forgot pic1
>>51934066
Nice seems like a good solution
but will this thing have enough power to handle a minecraft server with ~20 people ?
Is it even faster then a odroid c1 for example ?
>>51934140
And pic2
>>51934140
What do you use all that stuff for?
How is a home connection even suitable for this? Even if it's decently fast they tend to not give a shit about turning your connection off for several hours overnight if they want to do maintenance
>>51933985
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811112265
You might have other options i got this one because it was on sale
>>51930692
What is... no.
Xeons and i7's for single CPU are near equal, short of a mild clock swap (stability vs performance), a security feature (Xeon has TSX-NI) and ECC RAM support
That's it for single CPU configurations.
For multi-CPU, well, Xeon really the only Intel option. That's where the break is. But a Xeon 1240v3 is essentially the same as an i7-4770.
E5 and E7 Xeons are the difference.
>>51934244
you think they turn off connection for maintenance?
that happends while its still on, you don't need to shut down services for maintenance
>>51934153
weren't you the hyperv tester? I thought you were going to consolidate everything into one modern machine at one point?
>>51934210
I do deployment automation and some software development. It spent a lot of time off or in standby. But when I do a full stack deployment test, I need to replicate close to what I'm actually going to be supporting in the field.
>>51934271
Then why does it generally happen at around the same time conveniently when most people are asleep?
>>51934276
Yes, yes I am. And I still dream of a VRTX (you bastard) but the gear I get is very cheap or free from clients, and I just can't bring myself to drop 15K or more on a VRTX.
>>51934289
never happend here, i worked at ISP for years we did it on the fly have different backbones that customers connect to while we do maintenance.
>>51923908
How do you like the thinkserver over all? Thinking of buying one rather than building my own just because I don't really have the time or space for a build right now
A few questions for you home server guys.
1. Does having a static IP ever get you into any trouble. (DDOS,s-kiddies, scanners,exc)
2. Do you subnet?
3. Do you have a DMZ?
>>51934326
I see. If it works, it works. What is the lifecycle for new enterprise gear like the VRTX? Do you have to wait a few years until reasonably priced units appear on the market that have gone offlease?
>>51929581
what case?
>>51934431
>1. Does having a static IP ever get you into any trouble. (DDOS,s-kiddies, scanners,exc)
Most residential have pseudo static IPs these days in the sense that they are dynamic but the ISP has enough to preserve an individual address per customer. I don't see the correlation between safety and static/dynamic addresses
>>51934434
The problem with gear like the VRTX is that it's designed to consolidate a branch office environment down to a single box. I don't believe it's really a "datacenter scale" item.
The other side of that is that the VRTX is still a fairly new item. As the platform matures, newer modules should come available, leaving the older ones to be had for cheap-ish.
When I re-cycle in a few years, I'll be looking at the VRTX. I'm still going to watch it in the interim, in case it takes a pretty decent dive however.
>>51934489
>The problem with gear like the VRTX is that it's designed to consolidate a branch office environment down to a single box. I don't believe it's really a "datacenter scale" item.
I see. So only DC gear tends to have those large price drops after a few years? I assume the "corporate branch consolidation" market is still new so there must be an especially high price on machines marketed for it.
Makes sense. Thanks.
>>51933579
>Freenet
I hope you like hosting child pornography.
What could one do with a home server? Could I say for instance, make a hosting service which partitions my available resources and sells it per month? Is that viable on a 3k system like OPs or no?
>>51935401
Get a real job instead.
>>51934023
Rent from ovh
>>51922380
>plugs too short
>buy extension cables
>not having shitloads of them already on hand
its like you arent even trying
>>51923908
>PCs on carpet
Server:
Xeon E3 1246 v3
16GB ECC DDR3
850 EVO 250GB for OS + small VMs
1TB WD Red for large VMs + temp storage
Proxmox VE
NAS:
i3 2100
8GB DDR3
2x 32GB Sandisk Ultra Fit for OS ZFS Mirror
5x 4TB HGST NAS in RAIDZ
2x 4TB USB drives for backup
OmniOS
Switch:
Dell PowerConnect 2808
Going to setup the server and NAS to either LACP or round robin link aggregation, haven't decided in which one yet.
Anyone have experience with link aggregations?
>>51935873
i have an old shelf that never got mounted just to give a couple inches between the ground and my PC
>Dust Kills
>>51935892
>link aggregation
LACP beats the living shit out of round-robin. If your NICs and switch support it I highly recommend it.
>OmniOS
My Illumos nigga. I'm thinking of SmartOS for my home server when I build one. I've run it before and it's apparently a lot better now - vmadm now has full IPv6 support!
>>51935429
Lmao, ideally it would be side income if it was viable.
>>51930891
not trying to defend OP but is there really a pc case that can hold 16+ drives? seems like you're pretty confined at that level
>>51931861
you can't virtualize freenas you fucktard, it's not supported and if you want different systems use jails
half the posts in this thread are retarded as fuck and mostly people who've never installed a free OS
>>51930632
>not cooking your data-containing hard drives with your cpu/motherboard
ishygddt
>>51936162
typical /g/ retards in their mom's basement talking like they've worked in an enterprise for 30 years and the other retards who believe them
>>51922646
How loud are those fans?
>>51936162
You can literally do it, http://www.freenas.org/whats-new/2015/05/yes-you-can-virtualize-freenas.html
just rm -rf all my chinese cartoons and movies by mistake on my pseudo-NAS.
baka desu senpai
>>51921843
How much was the mobo? Looks cheap and chink
>>51923908
Why do you have hyperthreading disabled? It should only theoretically have a negative impact on Nehalem and Westmere based CPUs when virtualizing.
>>51936048
I might do some comparisons between the two but I think I'm going to stay with LACP. It's a standard for a reason I guess.
Yeah Illumos is much better then it was a few years ago. The increased popularity of OpenZFS has definitely helped it.
>>51924766
>It's not just a media server anon, I can't go into detail
>$3000 hentai server
>>51938598
This
>>51921843
>my first server
>$3000
Literally wow. All the servers I've had at home have been old computers. I did buy an actual used server (HP Proliant) last spring but that was so noisy and power-hungry that I've since replaced it with pic related.
>i7 860, 2.8GHz
>4 GB ram
>2x 128GB SSDs in ZFS raid 1 for the OS
>2x 2TB WB reds in Btrfs raid 1 for data
>Proxmox VE
>three VMs: mail server, owncloud server, general linux / file server
>>51937957
Do you seriously not know about SUPER Micro?
What are my options for a super low power consumption server? J1900? 5350? Anything newer or better? I'm not concerned with speed too much since anything with hdmi, gigabit ethernet, and at least 4 sata3 ports will be able fulfill my needs. Power consumption is my main concern.
>>51939024
Why use Btrfs when you have ZFS?
>>51940429
Two reasons mostly
I brought the disks in from my previous server and didn't reformat them. Also I hear ZFS needs a lot of memory when the filesystems get bigger. I'm not sure if that's only applicable with deduplication on, but back then I felt safer with Btrfs.
>>51940526
>I hear ZFS needs a lot of memory when the filesystems get bigger
That's a myth that the retarded FreeNAS devs keep telling people. 1GB of RAM per TB of storage is ridiculous. The ARC size can be easily limited to whatever max/min value you want, but the defaults are more then enough for what a home user needs. Also reminder that media files don't get cached in RAM, only smaller files do.
Do you have any fancy Btrfs features enabled?
>>51940724
>memory requirement myth
That's the feel I've been getting too.
I've been using Btrfs for a few years now and only fairly recently learned of FreeNAS and ZFS in general. Somehow Btrfs seemed more "Linux-like" if you will.
>fancy Btrfs features
What might those be? I'm using raid 1 of course. I haven't really got into snapshots and subvolumes and all that, I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around those.
Who ServerPI here? I have some questions related to get baby's 1st home server.
>ServerPI, as RaspberryPI, BananaPI, OrangePI, etc. . .
>>51926892
Why not use asymmetric encryption as login? i.e. use passwordless login, disable password logins.
>>51935401
Yes you could.
But I don't think it's cost efficient.
>>51940872
>Btrfs seemed more "Linux-like" if you will
Btrfs is natively supported by Linux while ZFS was ported to Linux, so yes it's a much more portable filesystem.
>What might those be?
The two most useful to you would be filesystem compression and snapshots. Btrfs is capable of transparent LZO compression on the filesystem level which saves space at the cost of a little CPU overhead. It's smart in that if it sees a file that won't compress well (media files) it skips over it so only the files which would benefit from the compression (text, pdf, programs, etc.) get compressed. This all happens automatically in the background with no user interaction which is really nice. ZFS has filesystem compression and snapshots too.
Snapshots are useful to have in general. I'd say find and edit a cron snapshot script to take a snapshot once a day and delete snapshots older then 7 days. That way you can go up to a week in the past in case you (or someone else) accidentally deletes or moves your files.
Check out the Btrfs wiki for more info on things.
>>51941357
I have some CPU overhead already since I'm using encryption. Everything is encrypted twice. Mite be cool on an OS drive (I wonder if it's enabled by default in Proxmox's ZFS?).
Snapshotting mite be cool too, but I haven't really felt the need for it yet. Also I hear it's possible to have them show up in Windows shadow copies, but not sure how to set that up.
Subvolumes however... I still don't get. They just look like directories to me.
>>51941591
How are you encrypting everything twice?
I can't wait until native encryption on OpenZFS finally gets ported over. Right now I'm not encrypting anything but I probably should be...
>Subvolumes however... I still don't get
Subvolumes basically makes the subvolumed directory a separate Btrfs partition. Subvolumes can be mounted independently and have independent snapshots. Unlike with normal partitions, with subvolumes you don't have to specify the capacity at creation time. By default all subvolumes don't have a defined capacity and all use the whole drive, just like normal directories would. You can then later put a storage quota on a subvolume to limit its capacity.
It's useful if you have multiple users on your network, say each with their own mounted /home subvolume with a limit of 100GB each from your NAS.
>>51937968
Nothing makes you appreciate SmartOS and Project FIFO like spending three hours bludgeoning a vCenter node into working properly.
>>51941867
>How are you encrypting everything twice?
Well there's two disks.
2x drive -> 2x LUKS container -> Btrfs raid
The downsides are that I have to type the passphrase twice when bringing them online, and the CPU overhead.
The other way would be to have the drives in software raid and then encrypt that, but then I'd lose all the fault tolerant features of Btrfs. I actually did it like this for a good while, until I learned why it was a bad idea.
Vid related: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAuEgepZG_8
>>51925236
I wish I could so shit like this but Australian Internet is anus
>>51941987
>Well there's two disks
Oh I thought you meant double encryption, like encrypting it once and then encrypting it again with a different cypher.
Do you understand subvolumes a bit better?
>>51942508
No, my tinfoil hat isn't quite that tight yet.
>subvols
I suppose I get them? I still don't have a use for them though. I'm the only user and there's no reason to partition the data disks. I guess it could be useful on the OS drive and apparently they are in use here too (on ZFS tho). Proxmox did that shit automagically.
Imma watch this now. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DplcPrQjvA
>>51926892
Change the port sshd listens to
Disable root login
Whitelist, keys etc. have already been brought up.
2x L5430s
40GB ECC DDR2 RAM
1x 320GB hdd
Quadro FX 3500
I use it for Xenserver and host random shit for people and myself as well as a virtual router. I have 2 more racks that are pretty lowpower but cant really do anything as well as a mini ITX thing with slackware but no idea what to do with it all
>>51924766
I see, so this is the backbone to your private tracker, huh anon?
>>51931781
That's HP T610 with Win7.
There is also HP T620 with quad core CPU and Win8.
I have a raspberry pi 2 and a router that supports PPTP and PPPoE.
What's the easiest way for me to set up a VPN so I can access my home network over WAN?
>>51943164
gibe free vps b0ss
I'm thinking about building a home server mainly for Plex and NAS services. I'd also like to have a LAMP stack to play around with, and maybe run some VMs to play around in.
This is the build list I have at the moment.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/GQLVkL
I went with Intel since I'm willing to pay more for better power/heat efficiency.
Given the above, is there any place where I've gone overboard or underboard?
>>51923908
this same computer can run dota at medium setting w/ 60 fps
I use it atm for random shit, got mine for 250$
>>51922202
For $3k you could've got a MUCH more powerful, reliable, and supported hp or dell server. I'm talking dual or even quad socket, assloads of ram, the works...
>>51931689
SPARC <3
I'm thinking about getting a sunfire t2000 with a SPARC T1, but...eh... no use other than for it to look pretty
>>51931738
He fell for the R510 servers, ha!
>>51934140
Those R900s are pigs, i've had to work on a few before... also are you using 8GB 5300p DIMMs in that thing? pricey...
>>51934153
Are those EMC drives resting on the top of that 2950 there?
>>51934276
SEXY AS FUCK
>>51934434
How in the name of fuck did they get that rack on the right on that roro... those are dell 1855/1955 blade servers in it, like 4 of them, they are DAMN HEAVY MAN
why ARM servers aren't a thing yet?
>>51943164
Is that some sort of norco OEM case?
>>51921843
Why spend $3,000 on a single machine?
I bought a dozen G5 servers from a liquidated company for under $40. Not even kidding. They run great.
>>51944404
Because you need a brand new xeon to store chinese porn
>>51944404
G5 servers are noisy fucks
I got G1840T brand new + 5 months used Asus H97M-E + cheapo mATX case for 110€. Other than that, reused some old parts (WD Red, RAM sticks, PSU). Yay or nay?
>>51944085
Why buy the extra cpu cooler? The stock heatsink is fine. Also spending $130 on a psu is throwing your money away.
Any suggestions to improve this budget home media server build?
http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/ft4bmG
>>51948630
Get bigger hard drives.
>>51944340
they probably got creative with a forklift but how they got it out of the building is a mystery
>>51948801
They may be wizzards...
3000 for one user server
I'm planning to build a little homeserver with rTorrent, samba and NAS functions.
I'm going OrangePI + 2 HDDS with debian 8.
Am I choosing right?
Home server thread??
>>51944368
Yeah its pretty annoying but comfy, i hate the fans and seriously need to upgrade them, they sound like jet turbines.
>>51943909
Huehuehuehue
>>51950023
Damn that looks pretty baller, wish mine was more modern with more drives. Specs and what do they do?
>>51950023
Is that unit on the bottom there an equallogic/compellent box?
>>51948134
>Why buy the extra cpu cooler? The stock heatsink is fine
I don't have a good isolated spot for it in my house so I'm worried about noise.
>Also spending $130 on a psu is throwing your money away
Find me a cheaper 80+ Platinum PSU that can power everything then. It was the cheapest the last time I checked.
>>51950023
R610s are pretty quiet
Isn't SAS annoyingly expensive though for home use?
>>51950447
SAS drives are pretty damn cheap now, especially for lower capacities, 146, 300gb ect...
>>51950447
when most people talk about sas, they are talking about consumer grade drives which are basically just sata drives with a sas connector, not enterprise ones
>>51944364
Because SBCs already exist and ARM is too shitty for anything that requires actual performance.
>>51921843
wow a is that a 4u rack chassis?
what are you doing with that?
>>51950023
how did you network the bottom machine? Is it just being used for storage or is it a SAN?
>>51950518
I see. That explains the prices. Didn't know there were cheap consumer grade SAS drives out there. Was only looking at the enterprise grade ones since I assumed it was one of those standards that was focused on enterprise and didn't have a large market to choose from
>>51950545
That's 3u
>>51937968
e3's do not have hyperthreading
>>51934350
i am happy with it. only holds 4 hard drives and thats all the motherboard will take so plan accordingly. its hard to find a sata controller card that will work with esxi.
only came with 4 gigs of ram so i just bought a 32 gig pair. with 4 drives it only pulls 60w
Anyone willing to give a poorfag 1 gb hd 128mb ram free VPS? I'll be your internet bf and stuff
>>51950420
Hyper-V Failover Cluster running as scale out file serve; Has my space engineer server, remote access/vpn, plex server, pfSense (going to be taking this down), WDS, WSUS, ArkServer, and a small Enterprise structure lab, ADDS,DNS, DHCP etc.
Specs: 2x Intel X5650 6-Core, 48GB Ram, 6x146 15k SAS, raid is just a Perc 6i per node (r610).WS 2012 R2 Datacenter.
>>51950435
It's a poweredge c2100 modified a bit
single quad core e5504, lsi megaraid 9265-8i, intel quad pro card cant remember model atm, 4x3TB Raid5Array, going to be changing this soon, some assorted drives, 3x2tb,1tb,4x500gb, 512gb ssd, going to be play with tiered storage soon.
Took it out of role at the moment due to incorrect caddies in it, I have 8 now other 4 in the mail.
>>51950447
Define expensive? They come down especially if you pick up refurb 15ks from enterprise pulls.
>>51950606
you can plug sata drives into sas controllers anyways
>>51950556
SAN through iSCSI Target Storage Provider, Have 4 1GB connections teamed together. Because fucking 10Gb is a little more than I need atm.
>>51950682
true although the 2.5 inch form factor might be annoying
>>51950749
yeah, most cases will you switch out to 3.5 trays and just not like you put as many in there.
you could always do something like buy wd raptors and remove the heatsink, but if you are going through all that trouble there are probably better options
>>51950690
>>51950659
quality setup.
>>51950646
What are you going to do with it? I might consider it.
>>51921843
>wd red
wew lad you failed right there, should have gotten 3tb barracuda, retard
>>51950787
>yeah, most cases will you switch out to 3.5 trays
Completely forgot about that. Yeah, I remember the standard SATA R610s now. I guess storage on them is more flexible than I assumed
pic unrelated
>>51950870
he spent 3000USD for le media server
It's not exactly a shocker he fell for the WD color meme
Anyone not retarded would have just bought an offlease 3-4 U and spent the rest on storage
Can anyone link me a recommended memory kit for a ML350 G5? I'm looking to run 32GB.
>>51951128
any matching 5300f kits will work, it's not exactly that hard
Idiot here.
How do i get proxmox to assign static IPs to each VM and still get them recognized by the router? Right now I'm letting the router assign IPs via DHCP.
>>51951128
Use mr memory to find compatible memory
>>51950646
Check out the dev plan at cloudatcost.com (35 bucks once).
>>51943886
Install OpenVPN on RasPi, forward port, set router to always maintain a connection and get a free domain name in case the IP changes. Domain IP updates can either be handled by your router if it has such a feature or you can probably set up a cronjob or something on your RasPi to occasionally refresh it.
>>51950659
>hyper-v
can't believe you actually fell for this meme.
>>51931738
> home server thread
> clearly in an office
>>51932691
eBay, Lithuania sellers. £9 a tape.
>>51950842
Do webdev projects on it and also hobby OS development (using NASM and GCC), might host a tiny php forum for 10-20 users (which the 128MB ram is enough for)
>not buying a prebuilt nas
enjoy your power bills
>>51921843
I host a small Minecraft Voltz server. Just finished reorganizing my closet today.
HP Proliant G5
Dual Xeon Quad Core CPUs
32 GB of RAM
250GB Samsung SSD
2TB HDD
2 Gigabit Connection w/ cloudflare for small scale Ddos mitigation and traffic monitoring
>>51945676
Just upgraded from G5 to G7. It's lovely and quiet.
>>51951424
Buying kek level NAS bays. Enjoy your transfer speeds.
>>51951456
cloudflare only does layer 7 mitigation, no one is gonna attack with layer 4 a cloudflare IP so it's pretty useless.
>>51945676
Tell me about it.
>>51951506
It's mostly to fend off the 12-year-olds trying to ddos me with their little shitty botnets. Cloudflare works more as a method for monitoring traffic.
>>51951558
invest in a proper firewall.
>using cloudflare to monitor
>>51944085
Cooler is not required. I have a server with an i5 and stock cooler, as well as 2 case fans (stock that come with Fractal Design Define Mini). It's in my bedroom hidden behind the closet, I can only hear some very, very quiet noise coming from it at night if it's absolutely quiet.
i3 in general should be fine, but Plex transcoding on the highest quality setting takes a fair bit of CPU, other than that it will be sitting idle. It should definitely be fine for 1 user, but if you want shitloads of people to stream at the same time and/or plan to use it for 4K transcoding, maybe consider an i5 at least (or Xeon, depending on the price you can find an i5 for).
RAM is overkill unless you plan to run several heavy VMs at the same time or want to use ZFS. If you're going for ZFS a rough rule of thumb is 1GB for each 1TB of storage, so you probably have enough for that, but not for ZFS + VMs at the same time. Still, with consumer hardware mdadm should be good too.
660W PSU is way overkill. My own server (i5 4570S, 12GB RAM, 6x3TB WD Reds) idles at 40-45W. You could go with a 200W PSU and easily be fine with it, but since you probably can't get anything nice and trustworthy at such a low power target, go for something in the 400W range that's Gold/Plat rated and reviewed well.
As for the HDDs, you're fully populating your mobo's SATA ports with what appear to be storage drives. 2 things come to mind:
>no room for expansion unless you buy SATA PCI-E cards
>where will your OS go?
If you haven't thought about it, I would suggest not mixing server OS shit with your file storage. If something fucks up with your OS, you don't want to mess with your data drives I'd say. If you're going to use Linux or something like that, you could easily run it off of some USB (flash) drive, since it's easy to replace, cheap and can be easily imaged in its entirety and backed up.
>>51951615
There is no such thing as a "firewall" against Ddos attacks. It's still going to fill me line to router with garbage.
>>51951264
>2014+1
>shilling the SJWpi
>>>/reddit/
>>51951424
i have a 415+
i like it and it does what i need it to do
>plex sever
>protected file storage
>>51951504
I max my 1gbps ethernet :/
>>51951717
Are you retarded? He specifically asked about it.
>>51951749
>i have a 415+
did you enable encryption on all your files?
