/wt/ watch thread:
This thread is about the appreciation of watches, as well as the micro-engineering and materials engineering that is required to make a fine watch.
Required viewing for newbies:
https://youtu.be/508-rmdY4jQ
Previous thread:
>>51879341
>>51899217
Ref.1025 1954
Obligatory 5 post
>post it every day until the Orient comes in
>post that every day until the Squale comes in
>post that every day until you pick a new watch to buy
How do you fuckers feel about G-Shocks? Seems like the natural progression of the tool watch/field watch to me, especially if it incorporates climate sensors or a compass
>>51899671
Hello brother.
When are you going to change the strap?
I haven't been here for a while, not much time to shitpost lately.
>>51899707
I have some cheap natos in the mail. I'm not gonna take a new picture until they come in I don't think, unless someone really wants to see another shitty low resolution pic of my commonplace watch
>>51899671
I just wish they didn't make them so powerfully ugly. Why can't we get one with a steel case and decent bracelet?
>>51899671
/g/-shocks is a well-rounded, durable and purpose built watch. It does seek to do something and accomplishes it very well.
A few threads ago this link to RGM watches' blog was posted:
http://www.rgmwatches.com/rgmblog/2015/5/5/does-price-determine-quality
A couple key points:
>The problem, designing on the limit, the computer tells them the part is strong enough to do the job, but add a little dirt and dry lubricant and it can’t take the load anymore and breaks. Some very complicated watches made today have the same problems and 10 or 20 years up the road will just be expensive paper weights.
>Personally, I do not see the point in making a mechanical watch using very high tech materials, or processes to make the parts, especially when it makes the watches less durable and shortens their lifespan.
Today I think I found a good example of what he was talking about- the new Tissot Powermatic 80 movement, derived from the 2824-2. It has an 80 hour power reserve. The escapement has no regulator, and it is set at the factory "by a laser". It also beats at a lower rate (21.6K vs 28K) and has a new (thinner) spring barrel, among some other parts changes and is made of a new alloy.
The plus of the longer reserve doesn't seem balanced out by the negatives to me.
>>51899757
The Oceanus (at least, some of them) are tough but better looking. JDM only, of course.
>>51899578
here's mine
>>51899864
Not nearly as functional as a G-shock though.
>>51899898
There are ones with more functions
>>51899942
Except we come back to the powerfully ugly problem once again. I just want a rugged digital with steel case and bracelet with a lot of fun functions, is it too much to ask?
>>51899965
There are steel g-shocks you know.
Though it's not cheap. I wouldn't want a thousand dollar beater.
>>51899990
Only the pig disgusting ana-digi ones unfortunately. The price is ridiculous for a beater, definitely.
>>51899965
>>51899990
Walmart has ones with steel bracelets for around 100$ now. But they don't look particularly good
>>51899965
Okay, then the CASIO "PRO TREK" PRW-3000-1JF . It doesn't have a steel case, but it is fairly clean in design.
>>51899839
Thanks for sharing the article anon. Very interesting.
I'm planning to buy a handwinding flieger from steinhart with a unitas 6497 movement.
How's the movement? From what I've read it's a very old movement and known for its reliability.
>>51899766
2/3 of the electrical engineers I know own a Casio. The other third don't wear watches.
Which to me means that Casios are a no-nonsense, no-bullshit, dependable watch.
>>51900177
That's what I've heard as well. My only concern would be spare parts availability as ETA chokes off supplies outside the Swatch group. It will take some time for other companies to get up to speed making enough spares- it will happen, however.
After typing all that, let me tl;dr- I think it'll be fine.
>>51896308
He had pretty based taste... Keyword is had ;_;
The watch actually hadn't run since he died in the early 1990s. I don't think he ever serviced it once in the 20 years prior. It works remarkably well all things considered, but the power reserve is trash (24 hours at best).
>>51899671
Can I be a part of the Seiko 5 club?
>>51900212
OR they dont give a shit about watches and wear what just werks.
>>51900302
Your 6106 can be part of the Seiko general club.
>>51900302
>177 Jewels
>>51900455
That's because of the square cut crystal m8.
>>51900685
People usually get the SNK809, but also a solid pic as a first mechanical watch.
But as per the old guide, you buy one, and you'll end up with another 3.
>SNK807K2
good pic for first watch? I'm open to suggestions.
I also like >>51899671 looks really nice.
>>51900734
thanks for the feedback.
>But as per the old guide, you buy one, and you'll end up with another 3.
what do you mean? it breaks easily?
>>51900765
No, they're cheap as shit and come in a million different styles.
>>51900765
The SNZG15 is also a great watch if you're buying your first.
But it's mostly because there are so many god damn Seiko 5's that you'll end up with 3 or 4 to fill up your gaps.
Opinions on Perigaum? My mother sent me this image asking if I like it. I don't want her spending a lot of money on christmas presents for me. I'm not a fan of the font of the numbers on the face and haven't been able to find the model online.
I've been gone for a while, what happened to WatchmakerAnon?
>>51901318
He busy with real life shit.
>>51901306
That's an Invicta. Chink shit.
I don't feel I should be ashamed of my Miyota movement.
It's decent. 40 hours of power reserve at the minimum and fairly accurate for the price.
>>51901306
also I just noticed this is an Invicta watch, not Perigaum
>tfw its broken
Well yeah, fck, Ill have to send to china for repair...
Cheap chronos, not even once.
>>51901431
how surprising
>>51901343
That's what i figured. Sent him an email a week or so ago and no response.
>>51901306
Terrible. And if most of the numbers are being covered by subdials, it shouldn't even have numbers.
>>51901431
>tfw desperation sets in when you realise your cocktail wont probably arrive before the weekend
>>51901448
I knew this going in, but I babied it, and still it broke within 2 weeks!!! For all I care I could just drop it in the trash and be done with it when I get muh seikoo.
Is tauchmeister shit or alright for the price? It's mostly homages/copies, of course, but I'm not that worried about that.
Should you choose automatic over quartz if you have a budget of about €250? If so what would be a good choice? I like a simplistic round design.
>>51895168
EBay. Do a lot of research. Make sure the hands, band, crystal, face, bezel, etc...all match up.
Don't bother looking at the sites that restore them. If anything get one off eBay and send it out to someone that knows what their doing for a service.
As got price, they go from $150-$2500 that I've seen.
>>51901599
It's a matter of preference. Mechanical and automatic watches have charm because of their intricate components and longevity. I would get a mechanical even though they're less accurate than quartz.
>>51901373
My 9015 has been really accurate so far. I haven't reset the time in over a week and right now it's 1 second off. Seems like leaving it crown up makes it lose about 2 seconds overnight, and leaving it dial up gains about 2 seconds. So the two cancel each other out.
My stowa handwind
>>51901938
Back view
>>51901938
>old logo
you did good.
>>51902072
For dual timezone, get a gmt / utc function watch.
For some kind of fashion, >>>/fa/
>>51902072
You might as well wear a shirt saying "I take huge cocks in my ass".
>>51902072
Very
>>51902096
>>51902121
>>51902258
Anonymous man is so embarrassed at his fashion faux past that he deletes his post despite it never being able to connect to him personally
>>51902472
Ha! You know its bad when you get embarrassed anonymously
>>51899839
>no regulator
Tip top kek, mountain jews proving once again that Tissot is a huge fucking scam. So what do you do when you bang the watch on something and mess up the regulation a bit, just throw it in the trash and get a new one?
My gf just bought me this Seiko grand sport as an early Christmas gift.
My BR01
Want: Hamilton Pulsar P2
>>51902837
You haven't taken a new picture in over a year.
It's my birthday today cunts
The seiko meme quartz I bought two weeks ago as a birthday present to myself still hasn't arrived
>>51899671
They're ideal for field work. I'd rather not tear up a nice mechanical on a construction site for no reason.
WAY/wt/ senpai?
>>51903720
I always thought the smokey bambino was handsome
I'm wearing the Seiko 5s pictured early in the thread
>>51901965
Nice
>>51901796
Is your Miyota loud as fuck too?
It doesn't bother me, but it's the loudest watch I have ever owned.
I asked here and did some research and many report the same.
I can here the rotor next to street traffic.
>>51903032
Wadaya want me to to do take multiple pictures of a watch? It looks the same with maybe a little more patina.
>>51904994
Only if the rotor is spinning quickly when it's not winding. I doubt it'd be audible with street traffic.
Just. Bought this for 800$ for my dad.
Called the elvis80
He was admiring it on an advertisement the other day.
What do you guys think?
>>51906179
I wouldn't wear it unless you paid me. But when it comes to gifts you want to give people what they want of course.
>>51906179
I think it's pretty hideous. but if he said he likes it that doesn't matter.
>>51906179
he will probably like it
and appreciate that it's an american watch
>>51905119
Just to add, it probably helps that the movement is surrounded by a lot of steel.
>>51906179
>$800
I hope he REALLY liked it rather than just saying it's kind of cool. You can say something looks cool in an ad without wanting to wear it every day.
>>51906283
I know.
It's not a problem, though. Make it very clear he can return it. Have the gift receipt handy. Say that you got that one because he liked the ad, but he can pick another watch if he wants. People do this all the time when buying gifts they aren't sure someone will like.
>>51903720
Timmu Hortunu on a black Hirsch Duke strap, as I was wearing a suit.
I took a scotchbrite pad to the shark mesh I got for my Lemania 5100 Speedy and it looks way better now. Got the idea from guys doing it to the original Omega shark mesh bracelets. Pics of that tomorrow.
>>51906283
What are you complaining about?
I really like watches but I really hate /g/ being about consumerism.
>>51906283
All that matters is that he likes it. His opinion is the only one that counts. If he was admiring it then it's a fair bet that he'll love it. If not, whatever. Return it and help him find another one to enjoy.
>>51902707
Its called a free sprung balance. Welcome to every Rolex and most other high end brands. That screw that you can see on the right side of the balance, its for changing the inertia of the balance, which in turn changes the rate. There's an identical one on the other side of the balance, to ensure that it doesn't go out of poise.
>>51906637
>two-tone Datejust with fluted bezel
>fucking bear skin rug in the background
Somehow, I'm not even mildly surprised to be honest family.
>>51906685
What are you implying? I'm not the guy you replied to and I don't know anything about Rolexes, so I'm not sure what you mean.
>>51906685
>bear skin rug
I'm fairly sure that's a dog.
>>51906179
Damn, I think he wanted this one and I got them mixed up. I just ordered it, you guys think I can get a refund on the site or do I have to wait til I get it in person?
>>51906685
nossa mlk, deixe de cocópostar usando pics do olavo
>>51906811
he's still wearing his grandpa's watch.
>>51906836
Forgot picture.
>>51906839
>he's still wearing his grandpa's watch.
What's wrong with it? It's a Rolex, so it looks like an $80 Timex for thirty times the price, but it's a fine watch.
>two normie coworkers bought smartwatches after seeing this
>>51906851
TALK TO YOUR DAD. Make sure you get what he wants. Giving him the wrong thing isn't a problem if you return it.
>>51906637
Why is the bracelet so poorly fitted?
All a man needs.
>>51906984
Its not that its necessarily poorly fitted, its just worn out. The thing is probably about 50 years old, and somewhat thing strips of solid gold don't stand up to bumping and rubbing against each other very well.
>>51906891
No, I got the right watch, phew. Panicked for a second, but I got it figured out. man, spending this much money on something that might have been wrong scared me shitless.
>>51906472
Why is it called tim hortons?
I'm not american or canadian.
>>51907318
It was made by a hockey player named Tim Horton back in the day.
>>51907337
What, the franchise?
But why do people call that watch timmu hortunu? Seiko sdgm003
>>51907373
It's a joke nigga.
>>51907021
>casiosub
why did you choose that over a soki or other similarly priced sub homages?
>>51907373
>>51906472
Someone actually started using my nickname for this.
I'm gonna go out an buy something from the Nanjing Field Watch collection to celebrate.
>>51907571
Why do you nickname it as such? Is there a story behind it?
I'm genuinely curious. Also, I'm bored.
>>51907607
I suggested that we should come up with nicknames for the popular Seiko models since all the Seiko divers have nicknames already. Then someone else said we should call the SDGM the Timmu Hortunu because the fat Canadian likes it so much.
If anyone else has good nicknames for other Seikos I'm open to hearing them.
What are some good Seiko diver replicas/homages to look at?
>inb4 get an Amphibia
I want something a little more at home in a white collar world
>>51907910
>Seiko diver replicas/homages
Buy a Seiko diver?
>>51907571
As per earlier threads, brutal mate.
>>51907910
>buying a replica or homage of a $200 watch
>>51908072
Sorry family. I'm a lowly (albeit) paid intern in college
>>51907910
Orient Ray is only about $140 at Long Island Watch desu senpai: http://www.longislandwatch.com/Orient_CEM65008B_Watch_p/cem65008b.htm
Not really a "diver" per se, but the company is part of the Seiko umbrella and makes some pretty good stuff. Also comes in blue.
>I want something a little more at home in a white collar world
I recently wore my black Ray to a job interview and I had an offer the next day. It's all thanks to the Ray.
>>51908092
Get a fucking SKX for 160$ before they are gone, mine is still in the mail so enjoy a pic of my 7002.
But if you're poor as shit then go buy one of these Spanish 7002's on eBay, they are mostly aftermarket pieces cobbled together but they are significantly better cobbled then the Philippines specials.
>>51907543
The Casio actually works and is well made.
>>51907910
>Seiko diver replicas/homages
Not sure what you mean by that. You want a watch from Seiko?
SKX007, Sea Urchin are the inexpensive options.
Buy mechanical Chronograph
>Inaccurate and you have to pay out the ass for a service
Buy Seiko mechaquartz
>Accurate
>All the pros of a mechanical chronograph with none of the cons
>Will probably last forever if properly taken care of
There's a reason why the mountain jews lost
>>51909461
speaking of quartz chronos, I'm eyeing one of these myself... either this one or the green dial version.
>>51909461
>not a spring drive chronograph
>>51899965
>rugged digital with steel case and bracelet with a lot of fun functions
You didn't look very far did you?
>>51909461
I'm probably going to get a mecaquartz in the near future, but it will have to be one without a seconds subdial, and there aren't many of them unfortunately. I can't stand the ticking seconds.
Some day I'll get a mechanical chrono with a 1/10th subdial. Some day...
>>51906472
I don't understand how the SDGM costs a lot more than the SARB when it looks uglier and proportions are off the whack. The gigantic crown doesn't help either.
>>51907659
That's the guy who thinks that his watch is better than the Omega AT right?
>>51909461
I may get a mechaquartz sometime, but why the 24h indicator, if I look outside I know what time it is. I can't help but feel that that subdial would have been better served as a chronograph hours indicator.
>>51910143
It's only on the tiny ass subdial, small price to pay for the benefits of the movement.
Daily poo poo watch
Oh hey, look what just arrived.
>>51906590
Do you want us to build our own watches? We're the least jew brand cock sucking thread on /g/ at the moment
>>51911290
>Do you want us to build our own watches?
I'm myself waiting for better steel 3D printers so I can at the very least begin to make my own cases, dials and crowns, and then integrate a third party movement, yes.
>>51911141
Ah yes, another fellow SNZG15 brother.
Get a nice black nato for it though, you'll enjoy it immensely.
>>51909532
>digital
You don't read much, do you?
>>51911141
The hands look so cheap-looking.
>>51911342
Ordered two nato's, black and black/red, online, but since it's a smaller shop and we're so close to the holidays, I don't expect them to turn up soon.
Haven't worn a watch for a few years, time to either get used again to writing with the weight on my wrist (lefty), or wearing it on the right wrist and looking like a tool.
>>51911346
Not only that, but the whole not fucking ugly thing too
>>51911656
This approaches gold-plated AK level of terrorist taste.
>>51911585
Should work fine with those two, a leather strap is also a neat option.
My grandpa passed away recently and he left me this. I've never been a watch guy, but I quite like the look of this one, may use it for fancy occasions. Thoughts?
Inscription below the hands reads "17 JEWELS INCABLOC", whatever that means. More jewels is better, right?
Sorry for the crappy picture.
>>51910523
The answer to that question is that the price has nothing to do with your personal sense of aesthetics.
It is priced higher than the SARB because it has a more intricate dial/case/bracelet finishing, it has a solid milled GS style clasp, it has two half-links, it has Diashield, and it has Seiko's proprietary super AR on the sapphire crystal.
As far as I can tell, Seiko appears to price their watches with some reference to how much they cost to produce as opposed to the Swiss approach of pricing them based strictly on their desirability.
>>51910532
I never said that. I said that you cannot find a Swiss watch with a comparable level of manufacturing quality to the dial/case/bracelet of the Brightz line until you are getting into the range of an Omega AT.
I was not talking about movements or aesthetic taste, but strictly about the manufacturing quality of the dial/case/bracelet.
If you really want, I can go full autist and bore you to death with a point by point analysis of the dial/case/bracelet finishing to support my point.
Also, shark mesh bracelets look way better after you Scotchbrite the shit out of them.
>>51911907
I've seen these turn up at times, i recall that they are Swiss made.
The role of jewels in a watch is to be a material that produces low friction between moving parts and also a predictable friction pattern, and contributes to the accuracy of the movement. Though just because some watches have more it doesn't mean they are better (When considering movements with similar characteristics), and or more expensive. Incabloc is a shock protection system for the watch balance, overall a neat feature.
Looks nice overall, dig the central seconds hand and i think it'll work great with a brown leather strap. Did you attempt to wind it up?
>>51912134
If you do I'll post it on WUS (unless you want to yourself) and make a meme collage out of the reactions. I'd also be moderately interested in reading it.
>>51910523
Muh guilloche
Is the SARX017 any good?
supposedly i'm now getting a really high end dress watch from my girlfriends dad that's not too dress i could wear every day.
Told him any auto or kinetic would be nice as a gift, and i like seikos.
Pls be sarb or better
Christmas gonna be fun
>>51912468
Yeah it's great but why not get the one on the bracelet and then buy a leather strap so that you have both. If you buy it on a strap then you can't really buy the bracelet later.
>>51912561
Prepare for your Denzel Washington
>>51912561
I expect him to get the most ugly and or overpriced Seiko 5 he can find.
Though go figure, you might get an alpinist.
A while ago (maybe last year?) there was a lawyerfag with an FP journe's chronometre blue.
Are you still here?
>>51912574
He's got a handful of "mid-grade" chronos from citizen and seiko, so i'm hoping its a meme worthy watch and not trash.
They're nice but he prefers 4 $500 watches over a $2000 watch
But considering my its my girlfriends dad, and a gift like a watch, i'd be fucking estatic with a fossil, he's the head of a college so i expect /some/ taste.
He loves seikos and reactors, and since reactor is all quartz i shouldn't be getting one of those.
>>51912603
He only posted in the /g/ threads a few times and I don't go to the /fa/ threads anymore, but he posted there some months after his last post here.
He also had a dank complicated reverso (think world time) and a limited edition Celadon.
Was a guy who posted in either threads who had a pepsi gmt, AP RO and some reverso as well.
>>51912561
>hey anon, we know you were just trying to be nice by asking for a Seiko but we thought you deserve something better than that cheap stuff. We got you something really nice instead, enjoy your new watch!
>>51912592
Unlikely unless his girlfriend's name is Sakura and her father's name is Haruto.
>>51912592
i was looking at watches in the mall yesterday, that was the only "good" seiko they had, is there multiple sizes?
becuase i swear it looked like the size of a soda can.
all the seikos they had looked liked you needed to weigh 600 pounds to make them look good on your wrist.
Is this a good watch?
So I'm buying myself a new watch, should I get a skx009k1 or SKA369P1 (the one in pic)?
The SKA369 is abit more expensive but not by much. I don't know alot about watches all I know that they are both good watches for the price and look gr8 m8.
>>51912879
Forogot pic desu senpai
>>51912225
I wound it up (I'm supposed to turn the know counter-clockwise, right?), the second hand moved for about 30 seconds, then stopped. It's definitely faulty, gonna take it to the clock guy one of these days. I agree about the leather strap, the current one feels too old-guy-ish.
And yes, on the backside it says it's Swiss made.
>>51913263
>know
knob*
>>51913263
If you have little to no knowledge, you should go to one. Just pick a proper watchmaker.
>>51912879
>>51912944
SKX, because the kinetic movements capacitors die out and the SKX line is now discontinued.
>>51912786
Fake German "mushroom" brand. No, it is not. Stuhrling original manages to be worse than Invicta, because at least Invicta uses Miyota and Seiko movements in some of their watches. All they do is inflate their MSRP so it looks like you are getting a huge discount when you order one.
>>51912468
015 is better in every way
You get a bracelet, and you don't get the shitty red tip, which doesn't fit this watch
>>51911342
>>51911585
Nato straps look like shit.
what's /wt/ thought on DW watches ?
kinda like it
>>51914396
Overpriced for what you are getting.
>>51914396
>$20 movement
>$50 case
>$2 strap
>$150 watch
>>51914698
>$20 movement
It's a chinese quartz, so maybe .50
>$50 case
316L with a TiCN plating, maybe $10 at best.
Sup /wt/ suggestions for a poor fag. I would like an ana + digi watch pref metal band and case with backlight and easily readable
>>51914698
I challenge you to make the same watches as DW do and sell them for 72$.
>>51914698
>>51914743
>intel cpu
>0.5$ of materials used
>2$ box
>340$ CPU lol kek
>arrive in são paulo
>get friends with some australian people in the hostel, same room etc
>we go out to batman alley
>sit down to take a pic
>phone falls from my pocket
>lost it
>mfw now having a watch is actually useful
also i was checking in some cheap watches while buying a piece for my macbook charger and it was quite funny, chink watches don't usually have diver bezels that actually rotate?
Stop putting nato straps on every watch.
They look like shit.
Leather is the best.
>>51914819
Chinks do and sell them for 4
>>51914819
Here, $44:
http://www.amazon.com/SO-CO-New-York-5043-1/dp/B00VM9LJ5S/
It's even better, as it has a Japanese quartz movement.
That's ignoring all the rest of the $15 DW lookalikes
>>51906877
that strap seems cheap
>>51914879
what about perlon
>>51915058
They're fine, and I like the color combination.
Decisions
>>51915187
Get the classy one with the red face from amazon
>>51915100
thanks
>>51914837
>taking a premade Chinese movement and stuffing it in a premade watch case and polishing it up a bit is comparable in complexity and adds as much value as turning sand into a computer chip does
>>51915250
Other anon here, there's nothing classy about that clown watch.
>>51915373
That may have been the joke. Anyways personally I like the blue but I got pretty tired of that watch. It's very nice for the price but it's not that great, I think the crystal scratches super easily (the hardlex is clearly not the same as the hardlex in an SKX) and for some reason the 7S26 in that watch has given me a bunch of trouble while the same movement in my SKX has never given me any shit. Also protip if you replace the shitty nylon strap with a leather nato or something it's much nicer.
>>51914837
You forgot the literal billions of dollars in development costs
>>51915521
Literally snake oil, we never should have went beyond 100MHz.
Actually g-shocks as daily beaters are not bad watches, I've had mine for 3 years now.
>>51899757
They have its the twisted metal version but its 1k abit too much for a g-shock
currently wearing some (not the worst) fake omega my dad got me so thay i don't hurt his feelings. It feels wrong and i miss my casio bit it's not like i actually pay rent so I'm not gona complain. (except on image boards)
>>51915445
Replacing the strap for a brown leather one is the first thing I'm gonna do.
Does pic related have handwinding? It costs 55€ more but damn if it doesn't look nice.
>>51911073
There not that bad, but as far as finishing on the movement its terrible, but they only cost 30 dollars at most on ebay.
>>51914396
They always look shit and
>2hands
LMAO
>>51915881
>30 dollars for an HMT
That's between 20 to 50 dollars too expensive, depending on the condition of the watch
>>51912153
Hey can you tell me the model of this omega.
>>51899578
what are titanium watch straps like (in terms of weight, comfort, etc)? Looking to replace the leather strap on my tissot
>>51912153
You could've at least brushed it with a wire wheel or something to get all the lines running the same way, doing it by hand is pretty amateur.
>>51915945
Lighter than steel, usually a darker color and less shiny, much more prone to scratching. I've also never heard of anyone having an allergy to titanium, but a proper stainless bracelet will probably not be a problem either unless you happen to be super sensitive to because watches are made out of 316L alloy with the L standing for "extra low nickel".
>>51915994
alright, thanks
>>51915994
Sorry I had a retard moment, the L is for extra low carbon. I guess I don't know my stainless steels as well off the top of my head as I thought.
>>51915828
Join our brotherhood, make the SNZG15 the new meme watch.
Also the actual water resistance,much better lume are worth it, and the crystal is SKX tier.
>>51915919
Speedmaster Mk 4.5, Ref. 176.0012
>>51915952
Because I wanted a Scotchbrite finish, not a brushed finish, to match what is often done with the Omega ones. Plus, you can't actually see the directions of the finish by naked eye without magnification.
https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/the-2015-hodinkee-collectors-summit
Mr. Philippe Dufour showed us why a certain watch brand is justified in their prices and why many others are not, and in no uncertain terms.
>>51915828
This watch is 102$ on amazon. What makes this more expensive than the regular seiko 5s?
>>51917147
Why not say who it was and why? What a stupid fucking article.
>>51915828
How much can you get it for? I paid €141 for it (and €15 for some nato's), couldn't find it cheaper in the Netherlands.
>>51917288
Because everyone there paid like a thousand bucks just to attend.
Hopefully we can get excerps from that later.
>>51917335
135€ with shipping, from Amazon Spain.
Add 20 bucks at least for a cheap leather strap.
>>51917155
>What makes this more expensive than the regular seiko 5s
I would like to know as well, because the white SNK803K2 costs 60€.
>>51917389
>Because everyone there paid like a thousand bucks just to attend.
You mean the only people that attended were the ones who wouldn't give a fuck anyway.
>>51917627
>>51917155
See >>51916244
JOIN US. BECOME THE MEME.
>>51918179
LUME WITH ME SENPAI.
>>51918450
Can't see shit, captain
>>51914838
>arrive in sao pauo
>fuck this whiskey is cheap
> I fell in a pool and my Taurus pt92 got wet
>I hate my boss's kids
>I wish my wife and kid were still alive
>time for more pain pills
>>51918450
Already posted mine by now >>51911342
>>51918450
>>51918545
How long is that supposed to last at night?
>>51914838
>chink watches don't usually have diver bezels that actually rotate?
The funniest one I saw was this Haurex Italy watch. Screw down crown, screw back case, water resistance 3 bar.
>>51918835
Q&Q has fake bezels made out of the case material.
>>51918835
Tacky meters on watches that aren't even chronos is my favorite. Or putting one on a chrono but then making the big second hand the running seconds and putting the chrono seconds on a subdial.
Can anyone recommend decent genuine crocodile/alligator straps available in Europe?
>>51906472
>>51912153
>>51916853
Bad news, Canadian watchfriend. The dollar took a giant shit this afternoon. We're now down to 71 cents US: https://ca.finance.yahoo.com/q?s=CADUSD%3DX
I guess I won't be buying any watches for a while... glad I locked my SARB017 in at 79 cents. But I'm even more glad I locked in the loan for my car at 82 cents.
>mfw our currency has lost 15% of its value since May
>mfw it's only going to get worse
>When the Seiko 6309 reissue comes out it will probably be over $650 CAD for a $400 watch
Please just invade us now, America, I can't wait around for Trump to do it
>>51919021
How about Hirsch?
>>51919021
Camille Fournet
>>51919037
I did run across those. I was just wondering if they were priced well and of decent quality.
>>51919063
I have one Hirsch band, and it seems decent to me. More durable than the Crown and Buckle I had (but that was beautifully soft and pliable), and more nicely finished than the Hadley-Roma (but that one wore like iron). Price was a bit high, but I'm in Canada and we're in a bit of trouble right now.
>>51919021
Buy from Vietnam and pay extra for papers instead.
Custom for less than Hirsh wants their good calfskin straps.
>>51919035
I'm going to check out some of the local ADs this week-end and see if they've jacked up the prices yet. But of course the prices are already high so it's sort of academic.
>>51919136
>pay extra for papers
What is this supposed to mean?
Also, I was looking for a deployment clasp to go along with a leather bracelet. Is this one a total piece of shit or not?
http://www.watchworx.co.uk/pages/access/deploy.html
If so, does anyone know of something better?
>>51903720
ayy
>>51919169
Do you have experience with deployant clasps? In my experience they're more trouble than they're worth.
>>51919105
I don't know why people keep recommending Hadley-Roma all the time, they seem kind of shit to me. The finishing is not great and they're not exactly cheap either.
>>51919236
They are kind of shit, but if you can get them on sale they aren't terrible. Like I said, at least the ones I got were tough. I wouldn't pay MSRP for them.
>>51919169
Please allow me to interject for a moment, what you're referring to as a deployment clasp is actually a deployant clasp, or as I've recently taken to calling it, a deployant/clasp.
It's supposed to be French. Déployer means to spread or unfold.
>>51919035
I can live with the higher prices for imports since it's really good for exports and therefore manufacturing, which drives the economy in my part of the country.
Still, I really wish I'd managed to get a Memexplorer on one of the last two runs now.
>>51919217
They seemed nifty, but that may just be the case with higher end pieces.
>>51919257
I shall refer to it as such going forward. It seems as if I have taken influence from retards.
>>51919021
I've got a Hirsch Duke strap. It's only embossed calf leather but it's decent quality, still pretty stiff though.
>>51919169
Papers stating origin and such, without it importing / exporting alligator is restricted or banned in many places.
>>51919353
Other anon here I want either a 'Nam croc or python, any idea if it's restricted for the EU?
>>51919146
I don't know about the watch ADs, but I notice Toyota has raised their prices substantially. I imagine Seiko will start doing the same before long.
>>51919289
If your part of the country is Ontario, then you can be sure that the cunt running the place is going to do everything in her power to make sure that manufacturing doesn't recover. I have a lot of clients who keep talking about expanding, but ultimately never go through with it because
>electricity costs are too high
>taxes are too high, so why bother
We're just being fucked by high exchange rates, nothing else is going to change.
>>51919021
>>51919340
For an example of a Hirsch Duke on a stylistically similar watch, see:
>>51906472
>>51919478
I hear you, but a 70 cent dollar is like a ~25% export subsidy for selling to the US, it becomes ridiculously easy to under bid US companies at that point.
Why do I keep coming back to these threads, knowing eventually I'll just want more watches
>>51906472
Oh neat, I just got a Hirsch strap for my SRP. I almost got that exact same one, but they didn't have it in 20mm
>>51919408
Not sure but think so.
VNhandcrafts or whatever does allegedly give papers for a few bux more.
I wouldn't risk it, though I haven't looked very far into it either.
>>51919532
Here's mine.
>>51919609
As long as this means I get cheap syrup you canucks can burn desu senpai
>>51919711
Filling up my watch box has really put a brake on me. I need to decide what I want to get rid of if I really want to get one of these watches I've been eyeing lately.
>>51919720
Unless they don't mark the package as genuine croc/python/panda/mountain gorilla leather I don't think customs could tell whether it's real or PU/imitation calf. Unless they bother fucking around with microscopes/DNA.
>>51919798
One with the golden frame looks amazing
>>51919798
Is that Constellation of solid gold?
>>51919798
Get rid of the box. Then you can buy a bigger one.
>>51919798
The Fossil should have an "accident".
>>51919968
Nah it's gold cap. It did have the solid gold mesh bracelet originally but that's long gone.
>>51919974
Well that would sort of defeat the purpose.
>>51920047
If only it wasn't a gift. I think the Casio will be first to go though. I hate it but I have to admit it's useful so I might just keep it at my desk at work instead so I can wear nice watches to the office and then have the Casio to change into for field work where I might bang it up.
>>51901938
that is sex
>>51914879
Holy shit man I bought this on eBay the other day
>>51919829
It's pretty easy to see if croc is gen or pressed, but I guess they wouldn't anyway.
Also pic to liven up thread.
>>51912661
*triggered*
>put a nato on it
>but it doesn't really work with the colors
>but memes
k
Hi all, I am wondering if anyone has any experience with the following watch/brand: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007MPEXHW/ (Titan Edge)
I am interested in it mostly due to the thinness and the look, but am not a watch guy
smol wotch
>>51921605
obese morgan with obese lugs should not have a nato on it. It's horrid
>>51921721
neither an orbis morgan nor is 20mm that obese?
i just put the nato on for memes n' dreams, it has a short leather strap i use regularly.
here's some tiny watch DOME for you
>>51921823
I meant this post:
>>51919798
I assumed it was the same since there's an alpha chrono on a bond strap in both.
It's not the lug width I mean, it's the chunkiness of the lugs themselves.
>>51921848
Ur obese, nerd
>>51922079
literally a fuckin turd. put the steel back on.
Only recently took an interest in watches... Please be gentle. Also, what watch should I get next? How do you keep automatics winded when not wearing them?
>>51922468
not doing bad at all for someone who just started up, good choices.
some automatic movements allow for handwinding from the crown, see if you can do that with your watches.
>>51921097
I'm surprised Seiko Holdings has so few employees, especially compared to Citizen and Swatch.
Gotta work those Malaysian slaves and orphaned schoolgirls extra hard to deliver better value to the customer, I suppose.
>>51922890
Seiko Holdings doesn't include Seiko Instruments or Seiko Epson, and I think parts of the watch business are handled by those other two. I know SII handles selling movements to third parties and for some reason I think I remember them doing some of the basic materials stuff like growing sapphires and making all the oils and stuff but I may have made that up. And then Epson is obviously mostly printers but they also own Orient.
>>51923077
> Seiko Watch Corp., a subsidiary of Seiko Holdings Corp., markets SEIKO watches while Seiko Instruments Inc. and Seiko Epson Corp. manufacture their movements.
>Time Module (TMI), a member of the Seiko Group, was established in 1987 with funding from Seiko Watch Company, Seiko Instruments Inc., and Seiko Epson Corp. to manufacture watch movements.[1][2]
>On January 26, 2009, Seiko Holdings and Seiko Instruments announced that the two companies will be merged on October 1, 2009 through a share swap. Seiko Instruments became a wholly owned subsidiary of Seiko Holdings on October 1, 2009.
So yeah, it's more complicated than just calling Seiko Holdings the watch company. In fact I'm not sure why they counted the number of employees in Holdings instead of counting total employees for the whole Seiko Group since they were comparing conglomerates anyway, but whatever.
>>51923152
I'm surprised Seiko doesn't seem to be involved in the whole big mess of fuckery that is the Keiretsu system that every other Japanese business is a part of.
>>51923077
Yeah, considering Seiko produces something like 10 million quartz movements PER MONTH, I would imagine they probably need more than 13,000 employees to run shit.
Hell, according to LinkedIn, Seiko Instruments has more than 10,000 employees, and that's just on the Daini side of things. You still have Seiko-Epson, which has something along the lines of 70,000 employees, though obviously most of those are working on imaging and other Epson shit (then again, I bet most of the 30,000+ Swatch employees are in the marketing department). Once you take all parts of it into consideration, Seiko is fucking gigantic. Graphic confirmed for Mountain Jew propaganda designed to inflate their egos and belittle larger competitors.
