I need a new CPU to replace my FX 9590 (Yes I know its absolute shit and is basically a heater), price doesn't matter to me right now, and I want to know if I should get the 5820k or the 6700k. I plan to overclock as I have an H100i. What should I do /g/?
>>51877487
>skymeme
>h100i meme
short answer - 5820
>>51877567
>Paying a premium for obsolescence.
Max retard confirmed.
>>51877577
he game me two retarded options, I chose less stupid one ;)
should I explain about say broadwell-e and skymemes next?
kys moron
>>51877577
How so?
>>51877487
6700k
>>51877614
Why though. I need a reason.
5820k
MOAR CORES
MOAR THREADS
MOAR GOODER
Are you just gaming on it or doing more? AutoCAD, Unity, Photoshop, Video Editing? Anything like that, more cores. If not, get the 6600K. Over clock and your done. Other than that, changing from and to Intel isn't just a processor switch....
>>51877640
higher number
>>51877487
6700K + NH-D15.
CLC are pointless shit.
New games and dx12 will use more threads and cores. Should notice performance gains either way but may as well get as many threads and pcie lanes as possible, downside is lower clock and more energy required.
>>51877487
If price doesn't matter of course go with the new i7 thats what i'm getting for my first build. Have a MBP late 2011 still runs perfect but, time for a real computer.
>>51877921
The biggest downside is how much broadwell-e is going to destroy either of them.
What OP should do is overclock the 9590 until it's on the verge of exploding and deal with it until Q2
>>51878063
Broadwell E uses same chip set as the 5820k, I can just upgrade later.
Keep your current cpu. If you needed more horsepower whatever company has hired you will provide you with a dual xeon setup.
>>51878511
>Keep your current cpu. If you needed more horsepower whatever company has hired you will provide you with a dual xeon setup.
Fuck off retard. Not every person asking for advice is hired by a company.
>>51878535
>Fuck off retard. Not every person asking for advice is hired by a company.
Well that's pretty obvious but anyone needing that kind of power should be. Unless he's the retard, spending all that money to play games and shitpost on 4chan when his current cpu is up to the task.
>>51878565
>He thinks ordinary consumer hardware is enough for real shitposting
bro firefox with 600 tabs open takes some power
>>51878580
>windows
i7 5820k if you're actually using to it's full potential other than gayming. 6 cores, 12 threads vs pleb 4 cores and 8 threads.
It has worse single core performance, though. If you're just gayming, get the 6700k and overclock the shit out of it.
>>51878565
That's assuming I'm going to be using my computer only for 4chan and not for gaming and/or extreme multitasking.
>>51878611
Finally some good advice.
>>51878619
For gaming, i5 or the amd cpu is more than enough, for real work a xeon is cheaper than the i7.
I forgot to mention, I am planning to trifire my 3 Amd R9 290s.
>>51878706
Then you won't need a new cpu, you're home is about to become the surface of the sun.
>>51878736
Surprisingly not that hot, 2 are sapphire Tri-xs and one is some cheap ass power color one. Room temp only rises about 5-6C.
Also >believing the R9 290 meme
>>51878772
>enough to raise the entire temp of the fucking room 5-6c.
>not hot
>>51878772
>Room temp only rises about 5-6C.
>Only
>>51878788
>>enough to raise the entire temp of the fucking room 5-6c.
>>not hot
My room is like 10ft x 12x and 7ft tall, with no AC.
>>51878659
Amd CPUs are trash for gayman you idiot. A 6700k gets 2x the fps of the amd one on arma 3
>>51878828
Are you a prisoner?
>>51878837
Isn't arma a horribly optimized game that will basically rape any cpu?
>>51878839
No I just have a very small Computer room. Keeps it all away from the rest of the house.
>>51878837
http://www.techspot.com/review/712-arma-3-benchmarks/page5.html
>>51878828
>No AC
>Spending money on 3x R9 290s and a 5820K
Fuck nigger spend it on some damn air-con instead
>>51878828
Move out of your moms instead of wasting money on computer parts.
>>51878874
I have AC just not in that room, and I keep the door closed.
>>51878837
You're pretty stupid aren't you?
Just buy the most expensive thing you can find.
OP is a retard, abandon thread.
>>51878837
ARMA is one of the FEW games that benefit from moar coars.
>>51878659
What if he wants to do both game and do work type stuff on the same PC, then what's the best choice?
>>51878924
That's one of the 3 games I play.
>>51878935
Xeon as it will do the work and the games for less. No you cant overclock them much but they dont need it.
>>51878953
So you should stick with amd since it performs within a couple of fps for half the cost?
>>51878955
>Xeon @2.6 GHz
>vs i7 at 4.6 over clocked
>"they will preform the same"
>>51879012
Yes in games they will perform the same. The only place you're going to see a performance increase is in single threaded programs. In multi threaded programs (90% of professional programs and games) you will see a huge performance increase from the xeon. Or are you one of the people that bought a p4 over an athlon?
>>51878736
tri-x stays below 70c load. It doesn't even need an aggressive fan curve to do so.
>>51879012
>ghz myth
i7 at 4.6 performing the same as my p4 at 5ghz :^)
>>51879066
>not know they have the same cores just with extra compatibility features
>not know GHz is an accurate measure of performance when comparing CPUs of the same core type.
>>51879129
>not knowing those "extra compatibility features" are what gives the xeon an edge in actual work related task.
>Spending extra money so that you can overclock and gain 1 extra fps in games.
Spend your money however you want, only reason to buy a more expensive cpu that performs the same is to waste money.
>>51879185
>not knowing ARMA 3 can get almost 20-30fps from a good over clock
>not knowing even in other games it gives a solid 5-7fps in non CPU intensive games.
>>51879231
Looks like here
http://www.techspot.com/review/712-arma-3-benchmarks/page5.html
You gain about 6 fps from stock clocks, would you care to post your own benchmark showing otherwise?
>>51879333
Those are all stock clock's anon.
> Please never reproduce.
Why are you so angry?
>>51878611
>worse single core performance
fucking dropped
>deleting your post when you realize you're retarded.
>>51879392
>not realizing that I made a mistake in my numbering and I said 3770k instead of 4770k and I was going to correct myself, but instead you have to be a fag about it.
>>51879464
So are you going to post a comparison of stock clock's to overclock or are you just going to post another scale of 9 year old athlon x2's to the 3770k at stock clocks?
>>51879464
Also if you could provide a link to the bench not just a fucking .jpeg.
>>51879516
Post above showed the link.
>>51879576
The only link itt is mine.
>>51879270
>>51877751
>>51879499
We are comparing 2.6 GHz xeon 6 core to a 4.6 GHz 5820k. Look at benchmarks with relatively similar clock speeds. Results should be similar to above results. So we can conclude that an over clocked 5820k has a huge benefit in arma 3 when compared to the xeon.
>>51879643
So you're not going to post any benchmarks backing up your claims? Come on dude I dont want to argue I want to debate! Post some fucking facts!
>>51879596
I used then benchmark from your link dumbass.
>>51879677
That benchmark shows underclock to overclock. When have either of those cpu's come stock at 2.5ghz?
>>51879673
Can't find any benchmarks so we actually have to use our heads in this one and actually compare clockspeeds of processors with the same cores.
>>51879703
>Can't find any benchmarks
I'm sorry anon I want to talk about my hobby not fling shit.
>>51879702
The xeon is stock at 2.6 and has the same cores as the 5820k, so it is basically an under clocked 5820k. When the 5820k is over clocked to 4.6 the gap of clock speeds is almost the same when compared to the 4770s over clock. We can actually use our heads and figure that performance gains will be similar.
>>51879746
Show ANY cpu gaining 20-30fps from stock clocks to overclock and you win.
>>51879727
>when >>51879765
We are talking xeon vs 5820k retard. Xeon is at 2.6 and overclocked the 5820k is at 4.6. The performance gains should be similar when compared to the 2.5 GHz 4770k and the 4.5 GHz 4770k
>>51879812
So you are you going to post something or what?
>>51877487
Go 5820k. Holding a stable 4.5GHz OC with the same cooler. I got mine for 289 when the 6700k was 379. And with socks 2011, it could be a lifetime chipset if you needed it to be. Between the RAM capacity, the ability to accept Xeon CPUs and being DDR4 will increase its longevity.
Also,
>More Cores, More Whores
The 5820k shits on Skylake in every test except power consumption which made a 2 dollar difference per month on my power bill, no fucks given.
Pic related, ignore the fact its a TV, I was testing remote desktop on my LAN and was broadcasting to an HTPC.
>>51879875
When you failed the test on ratios in highschool.
>>51879905
>When you failed the test on ratios in highschool.
Which is funny because that's when you learn to use citations!
Well have a nice day anon.
>>51879915
Is everyone is your family this fucking autistic? "But Muh sources" learn to use ratios and comparisons of similar scenarios.
>>51879892
>The 5820k shits on Skylake
Except on IPC, which is the most important thing nowadays.
Go with Skylake op, by the time games start using 6 core, the 5820k will already be obsolete.
And right now, the i7 6700k performs better.
>>51877487
X99 + Haswell-E now
later upgrade to Broadwell-E
you get good boards, DDR4, m.2 as well as moar cores
>>51879983
X99 support for the next 3 years tho. Which means a super easy upgrade.
>>51879983
http://www.cpu-world.com/Compare/583/Intel_Core_i7_i7-5820K_vs_Intel_Core_i7_i7-6700K.html
Think again. Skylake also cuts your memory bandwidth by half compared to the 5820k. You can also OC said 5820k very reliably and beat what skylake can due in IPS. Try harder next time. Also
>Thinking someone only builds a computer for gaming.
Get out.
>>51880016
Exactly what I was thinking.
>>51877487
I oc the 5820k to 4.0 with h110i.
Shits gr8 yo.
>>51879370
It's like 5% worse than skylake in some single threaded metrics. Big deal. You get 2 more real cores with hyperthreading and you're on X99 so you can get a Broadwell E chip later on if you want for about the same price as skymeme.
>b-but muh power consumption
Are you an enthusiast or a pussy?
>>51879892
This.
>>51879983
>5% more IPC
>more important than 2C/4T advantage in Dec 2015
Nope.
X99 is getting a 10 core overclockable chip
I'm using a 5930k and gonna upgrade in like 4 years when the 10 core chip drops to $50~$100
But i though X99 wasn't compatible with previous generations?
If i buy a X99 board right now, can i later put a haswell-e or skylake-e on it?
>>51880309
You can get broadwell E and possibly sky lake E.
ITT OP wants to spend $500+ for a 5-10 fps boost
Consumerism at its finest. I would tell you to atleast wait for skylake-e but I'm sure you're the type that will upgrade his i7 skylake to an i7 skylake-e anyway
>>51880309
haswell-e is what you would buy right now on x99, like a 5820k
broadwell-e will definitely be supported too when it comes out
>>51877487
Buying an i7 is retarded if you really need the use or more cores or threads. Strictly gaming? 6600k. Jack of all trades, master of all? 5820k. You could also wait for Q2 2016 for Broadwell-E and its 8 core monsters that aren't even the highest end.
>>51877567
Skylake isn't a meme if you are upgrading from AMD
>>51877487
5820k on ever aspect
The logic behind choosing the 5820k makes no sense.
The 5820k isn't more future proof, at all. By the time games start using 4 or more cores, the 5820k will be already be outdated.
You don't see people with Core 2 Quads today playing the latest games right?
Well, this is the same logic.
>>51880671
Cost more must be better.
>>51880545
It's when your upgrading from last gen amd. Literally pissing money away
>>51880671
Sorry to break it to you but when the 5820k becomes outdated your skylake will be as well and likely before the 5820.
Also
>muh gaymes
Kill yourself
>>51880671
>By the time games
>implying you even need a consumer i7 for games
Fucking tech reviewers spreading this shit and what's worse, idiots believing them.
i5 for gaming, turbo nigger.
>>51877487
5820k is the better one and will last much longer than skymemes. Broadwell-e will use the same socket as x99 boards right now, but only the 10core seems worth it
I'll buy ur 9590 from you OP
>>51879954
You got a single fact to back that up?
>>51880772
>but only the 10core
There's an 8 core as well. A good price might make that a great buy. but I bet it's going to be something nasty like $700.
So is the 6600k memelake the most reasonable choice for gaymes without murdering my wallet?
>>51880739
This, my 955be at 4ghz plays everything fine.
>>51880341
There will be no skylake e.
>>51880862
Source?
>>51880862
Why?
>>51880818
If you don't being a stupid consumer, sure.
>>51880818
That's what AMD is for, lol
Your CPU is top-notch... Are you using water cooling? 4.7 ghz is fantastic.
>>51880873
Kaby lake
>>51877487
Skylake has next to no IPC improvement over haswell.
The 5820k has more threads, more cores, more cache, more pcie lanes, and quad channel memory support while currently being cheaper than skylake.
I think the choice is obvious.
>>51881096
AMD is shit tier sorry.
The difference between a i5 and a i7 is meaningless, the difference between between Skylake and haswell-e is even smaller.
But between AMD and Intel it's day and night.
AMD is for poorfags
>>51881436
How big of an improvement is quad channel ram?
>>51881563
Depends on what you are doing with it. For gaming there is no difference. For some rendering task the difference can be up to 20% in some benchmarks.
>>51881516
Their high-end products are okay, and your wallet wouldn't suffer from it.
>>51880671
Some games are already utilizing more than 4 threads. I gave away a 4670k that performed noticeably worse, even with an overclock, in games like BF4 compared to my newer 5820k which is just at its stock clock. Yeah, it's a slightly more powerful Haswell generation chip, but it's not unusual to see all 6 cores being used on the 5820k during heavy activity, something that wasn't possible on my i5.
Also, if you want to stream or just record your gameplay and maintain 100+ fps (assuming high refresh monitor), forget it on an i5.
I know this is a niche "gaymer" usage of a 6 core cpu but the whole "all you need is 4 cores and no hyperthreading" for gaming died over a year ago, at least for people with very high expectations.
>>51880671
Were not saying that the 5820k or any processor is future proof, but if you compare performance out 4 years from now, it will still be able to run most games with ease. Look at all the guys running 1st Gen I7 Es still with 980TIs. They have maybe 10 -20 fps less than a 6700k.
What we are saying is future 'resistent' is the mobo and RAM because Intel has confirmed broadwell E is X99/ 2011v3. Not to mention the Xeon processors that could be used to upgrade in the future. 1151 will be eliminated after one more generation, 2011 will carry on.
Why is Skylake a meme?
>>51880545
nothing is a meme when you're upgrading from AMD
>>51883936
Didn't expand DDR4 support from 2133, performance not enough of a jump.
>>51880545
This is what i did, upgraded from my old 6350 to a 6500. Shits night and day.
>>51883936
It was hyped to all hell as the next big improvement since Sandy Bridge by everyone since it was a shrink and a new architecture, but it's at most 5% faster than refreshed Haslel and sometimes even worse.
>>51884073
>locked i5
>memelake
can you get cucked any harder?
>>51877577
>two more cores that can overclock
>obsolescence
Your thinking is obsolescent.
>>51884081
Is Haswell a meme too?
>>51884159
When you can run games at 4k at 120fps with one graphics card let me know. Maybe then i'll buy an unlocked i7 with a flagshit card.
>>51883195
Exactly. Nothing is future proof, but what is more likely to be the limiting factor in the future? The minor boost to IPC that you sacrifice by choosing Haswell-E over Skylake, or having 33% less total cores/threads available (in the case of the 5820k)?
Skylake i7s make zero sense.
>>51884219
There is next to no IPC boost. The core/thread count, and cache size make skylake a retarded choice.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/9483/intel-skylake-review-6700k-6600k-ddr4-ddr3-ipc-6th-generation/10
http://www.anandtech.com/show/9483/intel-skylake-review-6700k-6600k-ddr4-ddr3-ipc-6th-generation/9
WOW its fucking nothing.
>>51877487
Speaking as someone with Skylake, I only chose the 6700k over the 5830k because of the shitty choices for the ITX form factor.
Get the X99 chipset. You'll be able to upgrade to something better down the road, whereas the z170 boards that we've got will likely die with whatever the skylake equivalent of Devil's Canyon is.
>>51884189
I think Haswell has held up alright. The inital rollout kind of sucked for overclockers thanks to the poorly designed thermals but it kind of redeemed itself with the refresh. Also Haswell-E is still very relevant.
It also wasn't hyped much at all since people were still pretty happy with Sandy/Ivy.
>>51884312
>skylake mini-itx build
Hot memes, coming through.
>>51884369
hot shitposting, coming through.
>>51884312
>980Ti
>2 gigs
Bump for more shitposting.
