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Other business laptops are also welcome in /tpg/ (e.g. Dell Latitude/Precision, HP EliteBook/ZBook).
If you're looking for purchase advice, READ THE BUYERS GUIDE FIRST. Then post, stating budget and requirements (e.g. size and performance).
Don't buy anything OTHER THAN T, X AND W SERIES if you want the Real ThinkPad Experience™
Recommended models:
T420 - 14", normal size
X220 - 12.5", lightweight
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No news.
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Why ThinkPad? (also applies to other business laptops)
>They’re really cheap when you buy a used one.
>Keyboards feel excellent while typing (yes, even the newer ones).
>Great durability thanks to the inclusion of rollcages and use of glass fiber reinforced plastic for the chassis. The keyboard is splash proof and spilled liquids will drain out.
>Utilitarian design - e.g. indicator LEDs, 7 row keyboard layout on older models.
>Docking solutions that easily turns your laptop into a desktop.
>Easy to repair, upgrade and maintain thanks to readily available service manuals for almost every model. Spare parts are easy and cheap to obtain.
>The best trackpoint (that red thing on the middle of the keyboard). Great for those who type a lot or hate swiping their fingers all over a touchpad.
>Excellent GNU/Linux & *BSD support.
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Used ThinkPad Buyers Guide:
http://ktgee.net/tpg
EPP discount for new ThinkPads (USA only, usually 15%+ off):
http://pastebin.com/fG23Pm71
ThinkWiki - Info on ThinkPads and running GNU/Linux on them:
http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ThinkWiki
ThinkPad service guides w/ tutorial videos:
https://www.lenovoservicetraining.com/
>>51838294
whats the thinkpad to buy if i favor small size and great battery life (6-8 hours SOT if possible, but 4-5 is fine)
How good is T420 with handling dust collection?
>>51838535
Get x220 with 9 cell battery
thanks, i think ill pickup an x220 and a 9cell soon :')
>>51838294
I have a T440p at work. What's the /g/ line on that? Thinking of buying one for home.
>>51839283
get a t420 or t430 and replace its keyboard with a t420 one
>>51839293
Any particular reason? the t420 has a really nice keyboard or some such?
>>51839300
the t420 has a real keyboard and not the new shitlet type keyboards, as well as the fact that the t420 overall was the real last thinkpad, however if you do pickup a t430 it has updated specs and etc... and only needs the keyboard replacing, but it does require some bios mod or something else, however it is quite easy to do, i personally have a t420 with an ssd and ive thrown my hdd into an ultrabay, it works wonders :)
>>51839300
Yes. T420 has a seven-row traditional laptop keyboard, T430 has a six-row chiclet keyboard.
The T430 keyboard is still good for a chiclet keyboard, but it's still a chiclet keyboard
>>51839313
Cool, anon. Thanks.
>>51839293
>>51839300
>>51839313
>>51839321
The T430 has the same underlying mechanism as the T420 keyboard (i.e. it has the same key feel), but has backlighting.
It's also easier to clean.
The problem is the layout, which is an objective step back from the 7 row layout.
Putting a T420 keyboard in to a T430 has drawbacks, you lose the functionality of several keys.
>>51839404
that, you do lose key functionality, but i recall there was a bios mod or some sort of mod or remap software level to fix all the issues?
>>51839419
There's no BIOS mod. Ivy Bridge BIOS mods aren't possible, AFAIK because you need the BIOS image to be signed by the manufacturer.
There's been talk about using a hardware flasher to get a modded BIOS working but it's a pretty hardcore mod (think flashing Libreboot on to a T400).
Also, to expand on my previous post about the keyboard, the feel is identical unless if you buy a machine with the reduced key travel (X1, X240/250).
On the T440p, it's even better than previous machines as there's 0 flex compared to previous machines - the keyboard is directly screwed in to the rollcage.
>>51839473
ahh okay, well i personally prefer the t420 keyboard when typing over the t430 keyboard due to the key styles, :)
So how about that thinkpad stack?
Contributing
>>51838294
So I've got an SSD coming in in a few days for my T420. How do I prepare my HDD for a clone? The SSD is half the size of the HDD, so I wanna just clone Win10 and drivers onto the SSD. How do I do that?
>>51839947
Thanks anon. Will have to rework my conky, but that wp is sweet
>>51840341
Same way you restore your backups.
Poll time /g/
How much battery life do you get on your T420 with original 9-cell batteries?
Please include your OS, your usage pattern and the wear level.
I'm about to buy a secondhand but supposedly close-to-100% original battery, and I would like to know how much of an upgrade it will be over my aging 6-cell.
>>51840341
m8 what ssd are you getting? I'm getting an ADATA SP920 128GB for my T420 this week and I want to clone my W10 setup onto the SSD just like you.
I will use Macrium Reflect Free, I've heard it's good.
>>51840973
Did we fell for the thinkpad meme because deep inside we yarn to be astronauts?
Did I do good /g/?
I want to add some RAMs and one of my old SSDs... but it looks like this guy only takes those 7mm 2.5 disks. Any suggestions 250GB and up?
Description says there is no OS, any suggestions? I have played with ubuntu , willing to do whatever including gentoo meme, but I want teh tablet functionality. Is there a simple way to restore the windoze 7 that came with the machine originally? Ad says "This tablet is in perfect working condition. There is no operating system installed. You are required to install your own OS. It has a Windows 7 Pro COA sticker under the battery." watdo?
I prolly need to find usb 2 or 1.1 or whatever for install whether it is linux distro or windoze... womp womp.
Also any other upgrade suggestions are welcome. I have a pair of Samsung ATIV 9s with 128gb ssd 8gg RAM and something like 3440x1600 resolution, but I am always worried I may break the screens (got both as refurb for like 650 each). Also fuck windoze 8/8.1 cancer.
I just wanted something I wasn't going to be afraid to break when not flying for shitposting shitcoding notetaking that was not a fucking phone and got roped into your meme.
Going to try to buy up min bid t60s for 10usd each and resell for 500% markup like the guy in the last thread.
>>51841065
nope, got a similar one for 150
>>51840973
My battery is fucked, it's at like 35% design capacity. Power manager gauge says around 2 hours when it's not plugged in, but I try to keep that to a minimum. I've already ordered a new genuine 9cell so I'll report back when that arrives.
Also, just finished repasting. Remarkably easy job, only pain was the wlan/wwan cable management. T60 remains the easiest I've worked with, but this definitely beat out completely disassembling the X220 or dealing with the speaker cable hell of the T510.
>>51840496
How?
>>51841047
I'm getting a Samshit Evo 850, 250gb. Let me know how the clone goes. I'll do the same once I'm done.
>>51840973
9cell+slice, so half it
Lowest brightness, lowest clockspeed, using Intel 3000 only.
Listening to music on winamp and typing up notes on WriteMonkey, Windows 7.
9cell is at 93.50Wh with 18 discharge cycles, but that's because the slice get's me through the day
With Optimus mode on I get about 6 hours from each battery
is the x61t noticeably faster than the x60t?
>>51842125
What's wrong with the trackpoint cap?
>>51841488
Middleton bios mod with SATA II speeds
2nd gen core 2 duo may pack a better punch, run 64bit Operating systems
Though your 3GB bottleneck won't make a difference, X61 can support 8GB ram but it's too pricey.
Thinking about picking up my first thinkpad should i go used?
>>51842141
I just have it for novelty, it came in a little bag of old TrackPoints when I bought a 770/X lot with other goodies.
It might be from a Toshiba satellite
What does it mean when the battery recall page is telling me my battery was not eligible for replacement? Is it actually unaffected or could it be that somebody has already ordered a replacement battery for this serial number?
>>51842177
No go-, I mean friend, buy the new Lenovo™ ThinkPad™ P70 mobile workstation for the low low price of $7,235.10 USD!
You can even upgrade to the extended 5 year warranty!
>>51842283
why would you even get such a laptop
I'm thinking about getting a T440, is this a good replacement for my current Macbook Pro Retina mid 2014? I want something decent, because my mbp already broke 3 times due to manufacturer issues
>>51842738
T440 is the poorfag version of the T440s.
Get a T440p, 1080p IPS + trackpad swap
>>51842283
Holy fuck it can take four drives?
Did you try maxing out that machine?
Looks like its past W701ds prices.
Someone one Lenovo's forum was crying about its price, a fully configured Dell Precision rival costs less.
>>51842402
Because fuck it
>>51841065
Not that bad but dem shiny keys tho.
>I sold an i5 X220 IPS non tablet for $240 but in gudder condition
>>51840341
Its recommended to do a clean install on SSDs and then load programs/data.
Have fun when your laptop decides to defragment your SSD.
>>51839664
Overpriced
>>51839313
>the t420 has a real keyboard
Let me stop you right there, the T420's keyboard isn't as real as a T430
The difference is the layout and chicklet keys
Build quality went down greatly since the T400s.
You don't see people writing rave reviews about the T420's keyboard like how they did with the T6x, T4x, T30 or 600X.
>triggered
>>51842863
P70 has x2 M.2 slots, x1 2.5" bay, 4th HDD in ultrabay.
P70 is also more expensive using the online config, I guess you could get it cheaper via EPP discount or calling up a sales team.
>>51842863
>Its recommended to do a clean install on SSDs and then load programs/data.
I upgraded to win10 from a pirated win7. How do I make sure a new install is licensed win10?
>Have fun when your laptop decides to defragment your SSD.
What? Does it automatically do this? How do I stop it?
ayyy
what did your thinkpad replace? how bad did you hate your consumer shit laptop that you got before you knew dick about tech?
>hp dv9000
>consumer shit
>literally made to break
>hinges are less than 1mm thick on a 17" laptop
>ruined the lcd cable too
>first replaced with a T61p but now deeply enjoying a T520
>>51843064
windows doesn't defrag ssds, it optimises them (read: runs the trim command periodically)
>>51838294
So, I have an issue with my x220t. I'm windows 10, only 1 of the 2 touch inputs are registered, so pinch to zoom and 2 finger scrolling on screen are impossible.
Multi finger touch with fine in kubuntu, so I know it's not a hardware issue. Anyone got any suggestions?
>>51838696
How dusty is dusty?
I ran my W700ds in a california desert plenty of times, I've left it overnight at parties 3 times where temps could get low as 40 degrees Fahrenheit
I've never dusted the machine after 3 years.
>>51839283
A T430 might have better performance over the T440p.
Build wise, older models are better.
I haven't used a T440 model yet, but I've owned an X1Carbon 2 and 3 gen models, their keyboard feel is atrocious compared to the T430.
With that being said, I like the build quality and keyboard feel of the ChromeBook Pixel a lot more over the X1C3 that I am dailying.
Only the glossy display and no trackpoint is its drawbacks, its 3:2 display is awesome.
>>51842863
T*20 and above can take four drives, if you count mpcie as a drive, and sacrifice your wlan card for moar ssds and put a caddy in the dvd drive.
>>51842790
I'm getting it second hand, the T440p is more powerful right? Is the default an 1600x900 screen?
>>51843128
A really shit 1366x768 TN panel is default, but an upgrade to a AUO 1080p panel is really fucking easy.
>>51843189
I can get the T440 for like 550 euro, 21 months of warranty left. How much will the T440p be second hand?
>>51843211
Probably around the same price.
>>51843064
I've read that there has been BSoDs when it comes to cloning a mechanical to solid state.
>>51843064
Ah shit, I see, well you could do the same thing again, with Windows 7 i think but it would take a long time.
Maybe get a Windows 8.1 crack? At least it won't have much updates
>>51843128
I've seen 720p screens as the default on eBay for 'p' models
yes the 'p' model is generally configured to be more better, though there are a few normal and 's' models that could be configured to be more powerful.
>http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-14-T440P-Thinkpad-i5-4200M-2-50GHz-4GB-500GB-Win7Pro-Warranty-11-2016-/141848277545?hash=item2106d0f229:g:GfwAAOSwv-NWZ2X2
What are you waiting for /g/?
>IBM 700 PS/2 untested
>lot of four 770 modesl, one ED and two X variants, unknown if HDD or caddy is included, hopefully so.
>>51843079
Is that ok? I heard defragging SSD's damages them.
>>51843076
Post design shit that only makes sense if you're designing for failure
>Hinges that are mounted in a way to rely on the 2mm plastic cover (and the clips underneath)
>Unfiltered fan grille
>Bottom-facing fan grille
>Unreinforced top cover, requires less force than an 5 year old can output to break.
>No heatpipes, directly using metal case as heatsink
> Hole in top casing under keyboard over critical components in case if spills
> Flimsy "ribbons" used from power jack to PCB.
>Heat vents upward towards LCD Panel, melts glue, makes it look like shit / fail faster
>Underpowered Cooler / Overpowered hardware. Causes GPU solder joints to crack, rendering machine unable to use the GPU, despite it being present
I think these are about the most egregeous errors of laptop design i've seen. These are all still present on shit laptops and "premium"-class laptops. Consumers seem to be fine with it.
>>51843076
>ASUS A55VD
>15.6" glossy 1366x768
>500GB 5400rpm HDD
>dedicated GT 610m literally weaker than the integrated HD 4000
>garbage keyboard and layout
>useless trackpad
>leds placed so you'll never see them
>goddamn impossible to open up
>paid $580 for this heap of shit on sale from $700
My first memepad was a T60, which taught me to love but wasn't powerful enough to be a full-time replacement. I picked up an X220 that came with an SSD and it blew me away with how insanely fast it was. Now I've also acquired a T510, a T420s, and a T420 and the total cost is still less than the non-sale price of that goddamn shitty ASUS. I've since harvested it for parts and now its corpse sits in a corner of shame. Once the T420 BIOS mod is further along I'll be putting its i5-3230m back into service.
>>51843261
I'll download a win8.1 from torrents and then upgrade to win10, then. Downloading the drivers is gonna be a real bitch.
>>51843274
like I said, windows is set to run the trim command periodically:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trim_(computing)
defragging ssds has 0 benefits
>>51843309
>download a copy of windows 10
>activate it using the coa on your thinkpad
ezpz
https://www.thurrott.com/windows/windows-10/6815/microsoft-will-now-let-windows-10-upgraders-use-windows-7-8-or-8-1-product-key-to-activate
>>51843261
>>51843258
Weight is an issue tho, the T440 is like 1,7KG, and the T440p is 2.14 KG. Any good recommendations that are less weight?
>>51843276
Unfortunately the ribbon power cable isn't going away ever due to said consumers not having an ounce of respect for the thing they just dropped 2 grand on and dropping it so that the ac adapter ruins the jack on contact with the ground. It almost seems to not matter in the first place since by the same dumb anti-logic they will just throw it out without checking because "it will take money for someone to even look at it" and/or "besides these things break in 3 years anyway it was getting to be that time"
>>51843382
>bitching about an extra 440 grams
>>51843382
just learn to accept the way it came, laptop shamer.
>>51843382
fucking triggered
>>51843398
>>51843410
Muh back pain
>>51843382
Get a discrete graphics T440s then
I think Dell has an XPS thats an ultrabook and uses a discrete card, get that, idk what it is.
>>51843398
>>51843410
Thank you anons.
>>51842168
is 2nd gen core 2 duo much faster than the first gen?
>>51843471
Eh. Penryn is where real differences happened, since it was a die shrink and used DDR3. I'd say get an X60t if only to get a 1400x1050 screen without the screen glue issue that the X61t has.
>>51843433
>pic related, T43p vs X300
>>51843471
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare.php?cmp[]=728&cmp[]=961&cmp[]=730
I don't know your specific model but my L7500 performs better than the T2400.
I was able to play sega saturn games on my X61T without much issues, there was a bump in audio every 30 seconds but it might of been the emulator.
my T60p gamed on League much better than my X61T tho.
>>51838294
I need a new shitposting machine and can't decide whether to get a chromebook or a thinkpad. thoughts?
>>51843691
You'll never be a cool kid on /g/ if you don't have a Thinkpad.
Is there a difference between various SSDs to put in a T420 except for the storage space?
>>51843913
Just don't buy chinkshit or Kingston.
>>51843930
sandisk ultra II or samsung evo 850 right?
>>51843913
>>51843930
>>51843941
does OCZ still have their business model of buying failed products from other companies and slapping a QC passed sticker on them? if so, obviously avoid
>>51843913
pay a bit more for samsung
>>51843991
no, they got bought out by toshiba and only exists as a consumer brand for toshiba ssds
odd thing to do as most people still remember how shit ocz were and vowed never to buy another ocz product
>>51843991
I want to believe they are safe now, but I wont buy it unless I did a SSD test first.
>>51844016
>Samsung
>after all of their firmware bugs and repeated failures to fix them
Still good SSDs, just gotta be careful.
Crucial are pretty good, along with Intel.
>>51844028
>>51844023
yeah, obviously they are still shit. the only good SSD companies are ones that also happen to make memory, since they are essentially the same product.
>>51843913
For what its worth, I have two Patriot SSDs and an ADATA one, though I've had an ADATA unit fail on me.
The Intel SSD is doing good on the gaming desktop I think, my brother has it now.
>>51843099
Human skin dusty.
The dust that if you swipe your finger after 3 days from cleaning the surface you can spell your name for a blind man to see.
And also the temps here go high as in 50 C high in some days, very hot climate here.
>>51838294
You guys know where to get an oem t420 batteries for cheap. 9 cell preferred. EBay looks meh with probably a bunch of fake Chinese batteries. I remember someone on /g/ found a seller who has been selling good batteries for years, I don't remember who it was.
>>51844148
Fuck
You probably need to dust it every other month, it should be fine though.
Upon boot the laptop will display a fan error and wont start.
Dunno how well it would be for the fan oil, but it should be reliable.
>>51844212
I know keeping the place dust free is a nightmare.
I even cover it with a piece of cloth when not using it.
>thinkpad threads
>>51844286
>>51844286
as long as you don't play video games, 2007 hardware is still fine for everyone. can you beat a complete sub-$70 laptop that won't break? I stand behind thinkpads, because when the nvidia card explodes, the carbon fiber will protect me.
I don't really need to move a laptop around very much. My main OS is Linux, booting into Windows occasionally to play old games (i.e. C&C Generals). Apart from that I don't do anything more demanding than web browsing and watching videos.
Would I be better off with the T420 or the T510?
>>51844636
T510 has a better screen and will probably suit your needs well enough. It's absolutely massive compared to the T420, though. If you've never used a widescreen 15" Thinkpad, you won't be prepared for its huegness.
Does the trackpoint work for FPS gaymen?
>>51844708
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNJsFURpMT4
>>51844701
Currently using an ancient HP NX7400 so I should be fine, right?
I'm having a persistent issue on both 7 and 10 on my T420.
sometimes I'll put it to sleep and on waking it back up, the screen never turns on. The drives are running, it's obviously on, but the power button glows like it's still asleep and the screen stays black. I have to hard reset it, and then it works fine.
Does anyone have any insight on this? I updated the BIOS and it still does it.
>>51842280
unaffected
it would tell you if it's been claimed before
>>51844933
gee if only someone made an alternative os you could use....
>>51844933
Hmmm... do you have the proper graphic card driver?
maybe the lid switch is fucking up
>>51844708
I do not enjoy playing counterstrike and similar 3d shooters with it.
I find it perfectly fine for minecraft, morrowind, and doom.
>>51844973
Lol fag
>>51844986
I wish I could remember if it did this before I swapped in a quad core processor. Either way it's still just Intel hd3000
The internet claims it might be an issue with Lenovo power manager. Disabled from startup and will see if that fixes the issue
>tfw want a ThinkPad with the decent internals and great portability and battery life of the X220
>tfw the screen resolution of the X220 is too shit
Anyone else have this feel?
>>51845145
That's why I bought a t420... 768 is just too low for main rig
But now I want an x220 or x230 ips as supplemental.
>>51845145
http://imgur.com/a/VIeM3
x220 1920x1080 ips mod
>>51841065
Search around for a Windows 7 Lenovo OEM iso.
>>51842177
Read the OP
Why the hell do you want one though? Your post indicates that you do not know of their benefits and are about to buy a name
>>51845230
>http://imgur.com/a/VIeM3
>link to imgur album with custom made eDP connector
>Not mentioning that the project also relies on building and flashing a custom BIOS
>The sum total of documentation for the project is a handful of posts written in moonrunes
>Even after using google translate you find that the creator handwaves his way through most of the important steps with a one or two sentence description.
Full github repo, native english speaker and a self-hosted blog or similar otherwise this mod might as well not even exist.
>>51844893
Completely, I have a nx7400 as a secondary machine at the girlfriend's place, with a T420s as main, so it will be a great improvement, you'll just have to get used to the clit mouse and the swapped function key.
>>51845230
>a one off machine made by a modder who is not from this country who had someone else make a special pinout for him in another country as well, made a special bezel for that laptop and the photos plus instruction do not give full detail to do it
right, because that is possible
no one else has done a mod for it, it does not exist outside of that one machine
at least a W520 IPS mod seems possible
>>51845402
>>51845541
https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=43600546862&toSite=main&mt=&toSite=main
http://boweihe.me/?p=1442
I can't seem to find a working download of the Thinkpad Scroll Daemon, anybody know where I can find it or anything that will allow me to use trackpoint scrolling on linux?
>>51844973
>implying Linux won't be just as if not more broken
GNU2loo
>>51845630
I just read a bunch of jibberish, as if anyone would still do it in the US
>>51845145
tbqh, 1366x768 is not so bad on a 12" screen, and the IPs model looks pretty nice. 14"+ is where it becomes shit.
>>51845630
>http://boweihe.me/?p=1442
That's neat, and more/documentation than I'd seen before. Still, suggesting it to a noob as if it's anything but a moonshot mod is rather disingenuous.
There are still motherboard modifications required, of which the author still seems to be guessing somewhat about what was actually done to his board.
Possibly the same modder could be commissioned, but paying for shipping to china, custom hardware, labor, and shipping back would destroy most of the value proposition of a laptop with a second-gen i-series processor and intel 3000 graphics.
At this point the value proposition only seems to be justified if someone is *incredibly* picky about their keyboard.
>>51838294
What's the thinnest thinkpad /g/ thinks is awright?
For reference I have an X220 and it's sitll too bulky
>>51846204
just get an x1 carbon
>>51846007
works on my machine :^)
zero issues coming in and out of sleep or hibernation
also I think you're getting your memes a little mixed up, buddy
>>51845112
we get it, you vape
>>51845680
Just to confirm, what model thinkpad do you have and what distro are you running?
Also you are doing it right, aren't you? Press middle trackpoint button then press trackpoint up and down to scroll.
Worked out of the box for me, Lubuntu 14.04 on x200.
>>51846361
yes, I tested it briefly on the stock windows. I am on a t420 running bunsen labs debian
>>51846462
hmmm, trysudo apt-get install linux-headers tp-smapi-dkms
not familiar with bunsen labs myself
>>51846596
thank you but it's told me that the package is not available, I think it might be a bug specific to bunsen labs, I am working through their forums now.
>>51846196
never under estimate thinkpad autists, they've built custom motherboards
what can I expect out of a Microsoft certified refurbrisher thinkpad battery? Also if the battery I get is shiet who are some trusted buyers
>>51846952
It varies
I got from 70% and up
I was dissapointed, I bought from IT Renew via eBay.
I bought as a lot, but they did not post thresholds, it was just a clean install, probably left the machine on idle for 7 hours and said 'its good' than benchmarking it
>meh
>>51846982
the one i'm looking at is from rpcglobal if that makes any difference, but where should I buy replacements? I hear people say ebay but theres a lot of sketchy chink batteries
>>51847009
I've only had one problem with a third party battery and it was for my A31p model, but it stopped working after bringing it back after two years.
I've had about 6 non oem batteries, they've all worked good, if anything they'll run hotter and not as long, but for the most part, I havent had problems.
Buy from a seller who offers a warranty, you cant beat a year warranty for $30
>>51847059
alright final question, i heard that T430's have battery chips to detect none oem batteries or something, would I be fine buying second hand batteries for a T430?
>>51846770
https://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/Thinkpad/Trackpoint
arch wiki has some stuff too
>>51842863
>Have fun
But what if I tell my laptop to not defrag, and to run TRIM periodically?
Another anon. I'm planning to migrate my ~60 GB sized Windows 10 install to a 120 GB SSD, using Macrium Reflect.
need your OPINION .
a guy is asking 275 euro's for his Thinkpad.
Lenovo T530
Processor Intel i5 3210M 2x 2,50 Ghz
RAM 4 Gigabyte DDR3
Harddisk 500 Gigabyte (7200 rpm)
Graphicscard Intel HD Graphics 4000
I purchased a T420 for $200.
8GB 750GB.
How did I do? This will be my first ThinkPad.
>>51847849
Expensive. Try to grab one of those for 230€ or less. 250€ and upis territory for a better i5, 8GB of RAM and SSD, or IPS screen.
Also, post your thinkpads. What are their specs? What are you running on them?
X230 here.
i5, 8GB ram, 160GB SSD, IPS
Dual boot with windows 10 and Xubuntu.
>>51838294
Is this a decent x230t? http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-X230t-Tablet-Multi-Touch-i5-3320M-2-6GHz-4GB-320GB-WebCam-c6-/301801822693?hash=item4644ca59e5:g:t2IAAOSwIwhWS74D
>>51848127
>grade C
No
>>51848272
Thanks!
>>51848046
If it was in almost new condition (including battery) , u did good.
If not, it wasn't a good deal.
>>51847091
Can someone answer this? I'm considering upgrading to a t430 from my Dankpad.
Sounds like bullshit but my t420 was able to identify the battery's warranty somehow.
How much should I expect to pay for a W520/W530 in the UK?
>FHD
>Quad Core i7
>preferably minimum spec storage/ram (I want to add that myself)
>Respectable condition, nothing used and abused.
Can anyone give me some background on the FHD panels for the W520/30s? I want to know the different manufacturers and models of the panels to compare. I have an X220 and know that there were three Iterations of the IPS displays. I big concern is colour accuracy overall, this is why. As well as this, where is best to buy them? (excluding 'compatible' models)
While I'm asking, anyone know of a suitable device to connect two displays to the display port on a W series laptop?
Cheers, senpai.
>>51848831
Used batteries are fine. Third party batteries are not.
Should I go with the T420 or the X220? I will have to lug this around for school and such, Do you guys think the T420 is still the better choice considering that. and what are some pros/cons of the X220 compared to the T420 other than size?
Just got T420 i5-2520m, 8GB ram, 320GB hdd and 1600x900 screen for 160$ and bought a 9 cell battery for 60$
>>51848846
W series are generally pretty rare in the uk, FHD models especially. If you're lucky you'll find a mid specced w520 around £350.
I'd say go with T520 instead and just upgrade it to quad core & fhd.
>>51848963
I'm not confident about running Photoshop and Lightroom off of dedicated graphics, that's all - will be working with multiple high resolution images simitaneously (Around 35mp each) on two additional displays.
I had considered the T520 but it is because of this that I decided against it. Also, would you mind pointing me in the right direction of a reliable seller of the FHD displays?
>>51848846
>>51848963
>>51849009
Also, in regard to storage I intended to use a MSATA SSD and two Travelstar 7K1000s. Presumably physically it shouldn't be an issue but I have a few concerns/queries:
>Is the MSATA port running at Sata II?
>Is it possible to perform Raid via the BIOS and not the OS? Would use Windows and Linux so I would prefer it if it wasn't managed through the OS.
>>51849009
Just buy from a UK based reseller on eBay, make sure they have a good return policy and send them a message to confirm the exact model they will ship to you before buying.
Not sure what you mean about dedicated graphics, W series also has a dedicated nvidia GPU.
>>51849115
>Is the MSATA port running at Sata II?
Yes it is.
>Is it possible to perform Raid via the BIOS and not the OS? Would use Windows and Linux so I would prefer it if it wasn't managed through the OS.
This is only possible with machines that were custom ordered with the raid option from lenovo. The odds of you finding one of these are incredibly slim.
>>51849118
Sorry, meant integrated graphics.
>>51849149
Ok, well I was only going to use the two HDDs assuming I could setup some kind of Raid... given that I am also limited to Sata II I suppose my best option would be an SSD in the primary drive bay and then a single Travelstar in the secondary bay.
Thanks.
anyone know how much a IBM TransNote is worth?
>>51849209
Ah right, well the T520 has an nvidia option though not quite as good as the one in the W.
In my T420 I have a SATA3 SSD in the main bay for Linux, MSATA SSD for windows and a 1TB in ultrabay for storage.
Why are T60/61 series so expensive where I live?
>price ranges anywhere from $100 - $200, depending on condition and specs
Just kill me and my R60 I'll never get to upgrade from.
I need a laptop for computer science in college and I've been struggling to find the perfect one. I've looked at the ThinkPad guide and still don't have a clue. Anyone have any advice?
My budget is ~$500.
>>51849255
anyone`?
>>51849277
Yeah, so initially my plan was:
>250GB MSATA - 200GB Windows/50GB Linux
>1TB Travelstar7200k in primary bay
>1TB Travelstar7200k in Ultrabay
HDDs would have either been in Raid 0 (Can backup externally) or Raid 1
Guess I will have to do:
>250GB SSD in Primary bay - 200GB Windows/50GB Linux
>1TB Travelstar7200k in Ultrabay
The lack of the extra 1TB isn't too much of a concern as I have a 15TB NAS - would be better practice to move everything there anyway.
>>51849149
Is the MSATA port Sata II for both the W520 and W530 or solely the W520?
Thanks.
![7p6HE4E[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/WHMP7AA.png "7p6HE4E[1].png")
Good deal?
>>51849403
Both are sata 2.
>>51849434
No, they're like 110 on eBay. You can get an X220 for that.
>>51849434
It will most likely not be in that condition or look like that, ironically I think it would be safer to go on Ebay and buy from someone which has good feedback and offers lots of good quality pictures, that way you will be able to see what you will actually get.
In regard to the price, I think you could get a nice X220 for that - not seen the average price of X201s though so I can't say on that.
Good luck!
>>51849444
Ok, thank you.
>>51849332
>>51849255
bump!
>>51849460
>>51849461
would it be better to get the X201 at a cheaper price or X220 for the same price? I know that's dependent on what I want but in terms of value?
>>51849541
Hmmm, well I suppose it depends on how you look at it.
I currently own an X220 and have done so for 6 months or so. I personally cannot speak on behalf of the X201s or the CPUs generally used in them but going by my experience with the X220 I would solidly recommend it (for the price I payed).
For what it's worth, the initial £50 - £100 difference between X220 will be worth it seeing as it is almost a given that the X220 should outlast the X201 enough to warrant that difference.
Stick in a Msata SSD and and additional drive along with 8GB or even 16GB of RAM... you will be laughing.
>>51849541
220 is better all round and worth the minor price bump.
>>51849541
>>51849643
Just to add to that... the thing I prefer about the X201 is the aspect ratio of the screen... for the size of the laptop itself I suppose it adds quite a bit of screen estate.
X220 i5 or i7?
>>51850198
How long is a piece of string?
>>51850198
Depends on how badly you want USB 3.0 (i7 only). The i7 tends to guzzle substantially more power than the i5 for some reason (without a massive performance gain)
>>51850251
I think I'd take battery life over performance. I need to use a USB mixer with real time response time for music stuff. I'll have to check if USB2 would be a limit. Thanks.
My x220 sometimes goes to sleep mode and needs to be hard reset in order to resume. Is there some trick or settings to play with in order to fix this?
>>51850251
>>51850403
I don't know how the expresscard usb 3.0 translates compared to built in 3.0 but even on my T60 it more than triples compared to 2.0.
So I threw in a small (120GB) 850 EVO SSD and installed Ubuntu on my old T400 because I didn't feel like lugging around the W520 when I traveled. Holy shit, this thing feels like a whole new computer. And everything just werks out of the box, which is a huge contrast to Linux of 6 years ago.
For older models, I'd say the SSD is a worthwhile upgrade. Memory usage is also substantially lower than it was under Windows 7 (580 MB at idle vs 1.5 GB).
RAM is 8gb, SSDs are 256gb, battery is 9-cell and factory sealed (brand new), and computer is Thinkpad x220. All sellers save the battery are certified by Microsoft/Newegg/etc, and all have free shipping. Did I do good, /tpg/?
Is this a bretty good deal lads?
>>51850909
>ubuntu unity
>good in any means
install xubuntu or something else but Ubuntu Unity is just maximum cancer
>>51848883
They won't work at all? Fuck lenovo
>>51851124
It runs completely fine, though. I just installed it as-is because I'm too lazy to bother with Xubuntu, but all this talk about "muh lag" seems unfounded. The interface doesn't seem terribly either, and I've disabled that "search everywhere and send shit to Amazon" function.
>>51851079
>2.2 GHz i7
Sounds like it has a 2720QM. If so then it is not a good deal at all, I got literally the exact same computer for about $150 less. Even if it has a Quadro 2000M, it's not a good price.
>>51851446
Damn, I guess I'll keep looking then. Thanks for the heads up.
>>51851347
T430 can only use genuine batteries???
>>51851495
Yeah. I honestly don't know why people are so mad about it, the Chink batteries barely last a couples months as it is, so you're better off getting one of the Lenovo ones that can at least go for about 400 charge cycles before they're fucked.
How easily serviceable is the x220 and how much ram can it support? Can it fit a second hard drive? I'm considering buying one and adding a SSD and maxing out the RAM.
What are some thing I should buy to maximize my thinkpad experience?
so far
SSD
Broken X220 to use for spare parts
should I think about a new battery? how do I tell if mines on the way out?
>>51852235
It can fit 1 2.5" drive, and has an mSATA port beneath the keyboard which you can put an SSD into. It supports up to 8gb RAM (I think), but I might be wrong there.
>>51852313
New battery if you use your computer and dislike the battery life. Don't buy if you're happy with it. When replacing, go for the 9 cell, every time.
>Muh aesthetics
If you're getting a Thinkpad because you think it looks good, get your fucking eyes checked, retard.
>>51852382
>implying ThinkPad's don't look good
u wot m8
>>51852382
how much should I pay for a 9 cell, on ebay they range from £30-£50, are the £30s fake or is the 50 just overpriced?
>>51843088
delete system 32
>>51852412
They look like tools. Not slang, they literally look like tools. Useful, durable tools look good because of their function, but the aesthetic is not for everyone.
They're ugly in the fashion sense, but yes, beautiful in the useful sense.
>>51852423
$70-100+, anything less is fake chink shit.
>>51852708
I honestly like the black box look they have, aesthetically speaking. Not saying some XPS/Envy/MB don't look good, but they have their own aesthetic.
What's a good brand of SSD to go for? (with antergos) also do I need the ssd software or is fstrim enough?
>>51852824
Intel is probably the best. Samsung a close second. Crucial depending on the model you buy. fstrim is probably good enough for most people.
>>51852790
I do too, but I recognize that they're not for everyone (literally everyone I've talked to IRL hates the look of the Thinkpads), hence
>If you're getting a Thinkpad because you think it looks good, get your fucking eyes checked, retard.
Popular opinion, not my own. I admit it was written poorly, though.
>>51852824
fstrim should be enough. As >>51852985 said, Intel is GOAT SSDs. To contradict him a bit, though, Samsung SSDs have been reported to have problems on Linux.
>>51853006
>Samsung SSDs have been reported to have problems on Linux
Only the 850 Pros had problems, and it turned out to be a bug in the Linux kernel itself. I believe Samsung submitted a patch. The 850 Evo was always fine.
So if Intel and Samsung SSD's are best, which are the worst? And how do you judge a good SSD from a bad one, keeping in mind the price.
Also, anon said that manufacturers that make memory tend to make good SSD's, but I've heard Kingston SSD's are crap.
>>51852708
>>51852790
This can be a good thing, there are stories of brake ins where they stole a shiny macbook and left the thinkpad assuming it was some shitty 90s laptop. looks have to do with function, even giving half a shit about how shiny the laptop is means the mind is focused in the wrong place.
>>51853173
>looks have to do with function
Yeah, I feel this gets ignored a lot. I'm sure thick laptops like ThinkPad's will be more reliable than super sleek ones, though newer TP's seem to be getting thinner as well.
>>51853173
Funny story about that, actually. Back in 2010, when I was in second year university, my roommates and I went out to some even on campus and came back to our house to find it had been broken into. Both their Macbooks were gone, as was the TV, the PS3 and our Nintendo DS units. But my 15.4" T60p was still on my desk, completely undisturbed.
>>51853213
that's just because components are getting smaller and efficiency is going up so there's no need for large batteries when you can achieve thinness and good battery life at the same time
>>51853006
I thought the problem was for all SSDs, and I thought that there was already a fix issued for it?
>>51853153
I think OCZ is generally accepted to be the universal standard of shit.
>>51853522
This is a valid point, it's perfectly fine if it can be thin, point is when you start chopping out the fan and proper heatsinks or 90% of the ports because muhminimulism... that's fucking retarded. I imagine macfags trying to argue that it's a business laptop yet they can't connect to literally any projector, or TV, for a presentation.
>>51853309
you may be the story I was thinking of, since I remember it was a T60p that was worth more. Post every detail about this, including the shit you should have given the macfags for since they probably gave you some first on how the thinkpad wasn't shiny enough.
>>51853584
with processor efficiency comes lower thermal output
are 6 cell batteries worth the money
>>51853584
I second this. Post the story of the macfags and the mustardrace unstolen thinkpad
>>51853584
I don't think I've shared my story before, but to be honest my Macfag roommates never really cared about my Thinkpad too much. When we first met in residence they made some joke along the lines of "holy shit, 1995's come back from the dead!", which made me slightly butthurt about being the only person on our floor without a new computer, but aside from that nothing much was ever said. We were more concerned with playing PS3 games (yes they did exist) and Brood War (when it still actually ran on OS X). The theft occurred about two weeks away from exams, which was a big problem for both of them since they lost all their notes. I didn't really feel like gloating about my Thinkpad considering their circumstances. I did chide them for not backing up, and after they bought their new computers (Macbooks again) they started listening to me about that. We ended up moving into an apartment with security after the end of second year, so theft was never really an issue again, but hey, backup is always a good idea.
Most real-life Macfags are actually pretty reasonable people and not the fucking Apple shills you run into on the internet. Except for iPad users, fuck them.
>>51853701
>lower capacity
>no convenient grip
I don't see why you'd bother, personally. I can't imagine that space/weight is that much of a concern.
>>51853997
Are you
https://rbt.asia/g/thread/S42243845#p42256185
Because that's the story I was remembering. sad how if the roles were reversed I guarantee you'd have gotten shit for it, I literally would not have been able to contain myself but I assume you had grown to know them after that time.
>>51854359
Why the Fuck would you carry your laptop by the battery
>>51849255
At least $175, eBay he prices are crazy at times so you might net $500
>>51848831
Yeah,itll find it out if you're using knock offs.
>>51848831
You should also use acpi -V on linux, don't know if there's a linux equivalent, but it will show how many hours it's been on and its last charged capacity. Actually serious question, is there any way to bypass this system and fake it and make it say it's new?
>>51854460
It's comfortable and makes even the biggest memepads easy to carry with one hand. The mechanism that holds the battery in is strong, even my T60's battery which doesn't really lock anymore has never fallen out on me, and I carry it around pretty frequently. Even when your laptop is closed and not in use, having a rounded surface to hold is far more comfortable than a flat edge. There's a video that goes in more detail about how great it is but I don't remember where to find it.
>>51854396
That isn't me but holeee shit, what a bizzarro coincidence. It's like there was a me posting from an alternate universe. Some key differences
>We went to a pub event, this guy was smokin' weed erryday
>This guy did not have his TV stolen, I did
>I only had the 1400x1050 panel, which on closer inspection is actually 15", not 15.4"
>My processor is a T7400
>Never owned a netbook, but I acquired an X61 for free from a friend, if that counts
>I stopped using the T60p in either late 2012 or early 2013 when I replaced it with a W510, which I think is a better computer
But everything else is eerily similar... the Macbooks being stolen while the Thinkpad is left, PS3 that was presumably used to play games, university student ghetto breakins, niggers, it's just further proof that Thinkpads are their own anti-theft device. As for my roommates, yeah, I figured I'd take the moral high ground and not be a dick about the whole thing. I think we all had a bit of a "bro code" going on that way.
Seriously though this is like something out of the Tatami Galaxy.
>>51853997
>Most real-life Macfags are actually pretty reasonable people
I object, many years ago I found myself at ground zero when a colleague of mine tried to convince me how great his iPod shuffle was, because he knew what music was on the device, so why would he even need a display? When he purchased a Mac mini he even brought it to work with him and acted out like it was his newborn or something. Another guy bought regular iPods in bulk because they kept breaking on him, when asked he duly replied "what else am I gonna do, there are no alternatives". And my boss at the time dressed up like Steve Jobs and prefixed all new project names with an "i", MacBook Air the greatest innovation ever! Apple this Apple that, all day long. I left the place before iPads came out.
Anyone got a link to a good USB 3 expresscard?
>>51854669
lessons learned from this experience
1. I need to stop remembering everything that happens on /g/ and get a life.
2. The T60p has ethereal magic anti-theft properties and cannot be stolen by mortals.
>>51854791
Startech makes a flush one but it's $40+.
I've used the chinese AKE ones from ebay for $10 for 3 years and have not had a problem. on XP, 7, and Linux the latter of which has its own drivers for it.
>>51854780
I said "most". I know some people who really like their Apple products and can be jackasses about them, but once most folks become adults they tend to grow out of the childish fanboy phase. I even know some Macfags who look down on people who use iPads as their "computer"... Or at all, for that matter.
>>51854806
It's a truly magical machine, no two ways around it. Praise be on Lenovo for delivering to us the T60p with Lenovo Nig-Proof® Technology.
>>51854822
So, this will work for my x200?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Portable-54mm-Express-3-Ports-USB3-0-Card-Adapter-for-Computer-Laptop-/121729827013?hash=item1c57a9c0c5:g:lBQAAOSwu4BVzGsT
As far as flush/not flush goes, can you take a picture of what it looks like in your laptop?
>>51854780
I have respect to Mac dudes who idolize the Woz instead of Jobs.
Since I work at a recycler, we seldom get macs but there was a fellow who was all about the old models which was pretty cool.
He has a lot of older Mac hardware that I am interested in but would not know shit about.
He's cool, he'd come by and check specs but not be cheap, somewhat picky but he already had 2 models of the unit we had in stock.
>be awhile back
>some guy asked about some Lenovo X120e off of craigslist
>everyone on /g/ said overpriced and didn't like the sticker I had on the laptop
>me thinks that guy came in
>lowballs the fuck out if needed, Mexico and lot buyers would be furious with the deal I gave him
>asks me if I have $5 videocards
>chuckle, tell him we junk everything under $10
>he asks 'cmon man I'm working with a Pentium 4 desktop with hyperthreading
>dying because we had Core2 Duo desktops for that X120e price
>he has to pay with Casanova card because he didn't have enough money
>he had to borrow money from his ride because he didn't have enough in the bank
>bill wasn't even $60
I mean I scrounged for laptops/tech too but u at least got away with it on eBay credit cards
>>51855690
The fuck is a Casanova Card?
>>51855473
Not him, but I have one of those.
Couldn't find any driver to get it working and stopped trying when I noticed how hot it got.
>>51855744
Hmm, that's concerning. What OS? I'll be using it with linux
>>51855805
Winblows. I thought the AKE drivers would work, but nah, couldn't really use the mini-CD that came with it.. Might have been a faulty unit though
>>51855728
On my phone and kinda buzzed, meant credit card
>when he first came in he asked if we were hiring
>what the fuck
>says he has all these certs n shit
>mfw I had none but my boss liked my eBay experience from my craigslist ad when he asked me for an interview
>tell him no because we don't have enough business to hire a third bro
>notice this guy is a bit more spergy than others
>notice he has odd bruises on his arm like he if got into fights or needle/cigarette burns
>wtf
>he asks if we take trade, tell him no coz lol we get paid to take shit from companies
>comes I next week with junk shit for trades, drops off a resume, does this while wearing plain clothes and he had blueshit on his lips/mouth from candy
>my coworker comments he sucked Smurf dick
He came one last time to try to buy a hard drive but did t want to pay $20 for a used desktop 500GB HDD.
He said 'oh come on guys' obnoxious as shit and was rude the whole time while here
Please /g/ I don't want him back, I'm fine wit the meth head buying iBooks from us
Getting a T450 today, anything I should replace on this model?
why is my thinkpad so shit guys? i got a New x240 with a full HD display and its definitely not good. its as loud as a jet, i have to restart it 3-5 times before the Windows log in screen appears (otherwise its just a black screen fter the Boot process) and the toolbar of word gehts burnt into the screen after just a very short time even with the lowest brightness. should i just give up in this crap and buy me an eee-pc for university or what?
>>51856768
>New x240
Get it replaced ya daft cunt, it's clearly faulty
>>51856830
where is the Problem? it is a refurbished demo-pool Machine.
but yes. i might send it back. should i buy a x220 for 300€? i need something small, lightweight with a good batterylife and a good display. i also want it to be fast-booting. i use it mainly for word, powerpoint and qgis.
>>51856768
>eee pc
off topic, but I picked up an asus eee 1015pn for $80 on ebay a few months ago, I really like it. The pn is the model with a dedicated nvidia gpu (ION), which means it's good enough to handle the sims 2 and minecraft at a decent render distance. I get a GLmark2 score of about ~450 with it compared to ~300 for my x200.
Windows 10 was unbearable, Windows 7 feels alright and lightweight linux distros feel great.
Certainly wouldn't want to own it as my only machine but it's bretty good if you just want something light in your bag to send emails with etc in between classes.
I also have a 1015PEM which is basically the same thing minus the GPU. Have to drop the view distance down to 2 chunks to play minecraft but everything else feels pretty much the same.
I want to buy a T420 but i can't find one that has:
>1600x900 screen
>reasonable price
>in the European Union
>is not broken
do any of you own one with the 1366x768 screen?
is it shit compared to the higher resolution one?
>>51857019
Funny, Windows 10 was faster than Windows 7 on my X300. Only problem really is that the trackpoint doesn't quite work properly- it seems to ignore scroll input in File Explorer and Edge. I think it's kind of ridiculous considering just about every feature works without a hitch in Linux, and considering newer trackpoints supposedly work.
I might buy a genuine 9-cell for my T420 for 52USD.
>Specs:
>42T4912
>LG
>Wear level: 0%
>Cycle count: 5
>Manufactured: 2010-10
>First used: 2011-03
Incredibly good price to be sincere family.
My question is: is it going to hold a charge considering it's so old (5 years), regardless of cycle count?
Can you guys help me price my T420?
I got it 2 months ago, and it is a great machine, I just find the screen and noise fan annoying. I love the keyboard (I replaced the one it came with) and the trackpoint has grown on me. However I want to try the new chiclet keyboard and the footprint of the newer models (*40 and up).
I have 16GB of ram. 250GB Sandisk II SSD. 1TB Seagate HDD.
>>51853522
Note the word reliability. If I can get a bulky laptop and a slim one with the same specs at the same price, which one is going to last longer? ThinkPad's are modifiable much more easily and will last longer.
Then again, most consumers don't want a laptop that lasts 5+ years. They're fine with switching every few years.
>>51857877
I have a T420 with 1366x768, mostly cause it was really difficult to find a higher res one. But I'm used to it since my previous laptop, an Inspiron, had the same res. It's fine for me, but I'd definitely prefer the higher res one.
>>51858503
Well, it may be because the comparison is between Windows 7 Starter and Windows 10.
Win 7 starter only uses up ~700 mb of RAM after a cold boot, whereas the (probably pirated) Win 7 Ultimate that came on my 1015PEM ate up 1.86 Gb just sitting at the desktop. (I've since nuked the pirated Win 7 Ultimate in favor of Lubuntu).
I didn't even last long enough to measure the ram consumption on Win 10 before rage quitting and downgrading back to 7. Only reason I upgraded to begin with was to try to sort out the issues I was having with windows update.
The difference of .7 vs 1.86 GB ram usage is very significant when the platform is locked to a max of 2 GB ram.
Is the Windows 7 and 8 free upgrade to 10 finished? I can't find it on the MS website.
>>51859433
No, it's going on until July of 2016. They want as many people as possible to upgrade to the botnet.
>>51857877
1366x768 is fine on a 12" or even a 13" screen, but that's not to say it's as versatile, and once you start getting to 14"+ then it looks really blurry and terrible. While I think 1600x900 is over-hyped (it looks and feels like shit after using 1920x1080 for a while), having those extra 132 vertical pixels is a fucking godsend.
Is there a way to prevent a battery from charging in Linux? Similar to how the Lenovo power manager in Windows could be configured to only start charging at 95%, 90%, whatever it was that you wanted. It seems Linux wants to charge it so it's always full, all the time.
Which program should I use to see the temps and so on W7?
>>51859808sudo add-apt-repository ppa:linrunner/tlp
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install tlp
I haven't looked into it too much since installing but I'm pretty sure it does that if you want it to.
>>51859820
HWMonitor.
>>51859820
SPEEECY
>>51854791
I got mine off eBay. Was like 10 bucks. Worked amazingly. Was for my x201. I want to say it had some nec chipset but was a totally different label.
>>51855473
Another anon here. I used a Damn near identical one in my x201. Flush and worked amazingly.
>>51855805
I had to do a little searching and find the chipset inside. The CD was also garbage but using the hardwire id in Windows and Google search I found it . worked fine for me.
>>51859506
So if I download a pirated win7 or 8 and activate it, I'll get the upgrade option?
Sup senpaitachi, spotted a t61 with the Nvidia Quadro graphic at a flea market, pre 08/08, $70 CDN. Worth the risk of housefire or nah?
>>51860079
I've personally never seen a pirated version (even an "activated" one) that actually works, so I wouldn't know.
>>51860173
Well, I just started up the media creation tool from the site and it seems to be downloading win10 on a USB for a reinstall. I hope this works out.
>>51860173
I had Windows 7 Home Premium or some thing like that in my ASUS.
I made a backup of all my shit, then did a clean install of a Windows 7 Pro ISO.
I don't remember if I "activated"/cracked it, but then I installed Windows 10 Pro with it, installed a small program to check the Win10 key, mad an ISO of Win 10 and did a clean install of 10 with that second ISO.
Acivated it with the key I exctracted from the Win 10 upgrade. Everything's working properly.
Remember, that Win 10 ISO is tied with the key, it won't work without the key extracted from it.
I bought an x230 for about 400 pounds on eBay. It looks brand new.
However it was advertised as having a 320GB SSD, but it came with a 500GB regular hard drive. The description also mentioned the WWAN card and it also wasn't there... The guy said that it wasn't his intention and that he can compensate me...
How many pounds would you ask him for?
>Battery Wear level: 16 percent
Wat do?
Get another battery?
>>51860511
Just check what those missing parts cost online and ask him for it.
>>51860600
>16 percent
No.
>>51858616
shamefur bampu
i bought an x220 with only 4 gb of ram.
it says it has sdram - what does this mean?
do i have to buy a special ram to upgrade it to 8 gb or what?
