So how far away are we from 4K gaming at 60+ fps with a single gpu? Pretty sure Pascal will fall short.
probably not for another few years
>>51833333
as far as those repeating digits go
>>51833333
we are already there
depends what game
kind of a useless question when nothing is actually known about pascal or arctic islands
assuming the claims of 2x performance per watt actually do hold up though, we should be doing pretty well
>60 fps
>4k
>Ultra
Pick only 2
>>51833333
definately once 14nm matures.
You can probably already play older games with a 980Ti/furyX at 60fps if you knock down AA and a few settings that don't have much visual impact.
>Implying one GPU could ever run new AAA games at 4k 60fps.
You'll see a 4k iPad pretty soon.
>>51833333
Devs will only make even shittier ports when better GPUs arrive.
>>51833610
>be in the year 2003
>implying a single AGP GPU could ever run games at 1080p and 60 fps
>being a fucking faggot for thinking so
Considering that most AAA games nowadays are unoptimized shit the answer is probably never, unless of course you're a faggot that turns down settings.
>>51833653
4k isn't on the same tier as 1080p, the advancement of technology has slowed down.
>>51833680
Choosing between 1440p ultra or 4k low settings the choice is pretty clear.
Anyone here wanna get crazy over the new star wars? directed by Jew Jew Abrams!
>4K
Not really going to notice much of a difference anymore, unless you have some huge screen. A good monitor with high refresh rate AND color depth is going to give you more.
>>51833691
Yeah it was shitty bait.
It's remarkable though. CPUs made 5, 6 years ago are still keeping up with the latest and greatest shit released today. If you had tried to do demanding shit on Pentium 4s in 2009 they would've fucking blown up.
Even Core 2 Duos and Core 2 Quads can still keep up with Modern CPUs, never mind the i3/5/7 series and subsequent generations.
Kinda sad really. tfw futuristical science fiction mathematically proven wrong
>>51833780
This is why I game at 1080p and 144hz.
4k is a meme only normie retards fall for.
>>51833333
>4k
Jews are really good at creating demand of idiots
>>51833647
We already have 4K cell phones. That has no implication whatsoever when it comes to pc gaming.
>>51833333
>Pascal being anything other than a Maxwell rebrand
Developers will always find a way to waste system resources and push out unoptimized broken games, so the rat race will continue of needing super powerful hardware to run shitty looking games.
The more resources you give developers the more they feel like they can get a way with lazy game making
>>51833795
We are probably just coming close to the limitations of silicon. One day we will move onto a new material (Graphene?) and everything will rocket forwards once again.
>>51833780
surely you would notice a difference at 28" and larger.
32" sounds like the sweetspot, shit's too expensive to get into now. $1000+ for a 32" 4K 60Hz IPS display.
Perhaps in 3 years time the price will drop to something reasonable like 300~400 USD. And a midrange GPU will be able to cope well.
It will be tough as we get closer to the limit on silicon substrate where quantum effects start to kick in, performance grade will diminish and we will end up with massive TDP 3~4 slot cards with monster power consumption until a better technology catches on.
Doubt 3D transistors will give as good a performance gain as shrinking the die. I hope they don't take too long to find an alternative.
>>51833919
Yeah but dude...
What if we don't find another material...
>>51833937
>60Hz
Is fine if you only want to look at still images.
>>51833333
If 14/16nm lives up to the hype: ~6 months.
>>51833999
I'd rather get an IPS with better color and viewing angle at 60Hz than a shitty TN panel.
60Hz is enough for my gaming and entertainment needs, I don't play any twitchy shooters or gook clickers.
I would benefit more from an IPS display for other tasks besides gaming.
>>51834077
You can get IPS and 144Hz now.
>>51834081
fair enough, didn't know that
>>51833849
it's a fucking new process node
>>51833937
You can get a 40" VA 2160p display for around $700-$800. Still expensive, but not that crazy compared to a multi-monitor setup.
>>51834081
Can it refresh black-white with under 7ms and be a good screen for not gaming? Because good IPS screens are almost universally slow with regards to refresh rates.
>>51834098
Good goy
>>51833333
Maybe next gen. there are a few good leaps that will culminate into a huge jump of performance.
>>51834207
The Acer Predator X34 is IPS and can do 100Hz Gsync and has 4ms GTG, which is close enough. It's also an ultrawide, so it's arguably better than most displays for "not gaming".
>>51833990
Crippling global poverty for a few decades. Then Religion takes over again.
>>51834291
Personally I prefer 16:10 to ultrawides. But good to know on the X34. I'll look into it.
Still not 144 though. There are a lot of monitors who use high hz numbers but have meh refresh rates.
How good is it on delta-e and contrast? Bit depth?
>>51834312
fuuuuuuuuck
I hope I'm either to old to care or dead by then.
>>51834316
He's not fucking google.
>>51834346
He seemed knowledgeable. I am googling as well.
>>51833795
...its because for the past years we have been releasing games that are not more game logically more demanding. For the most part it just has been same tier game logic but more complex art assets, when physics are fancier its typically done by the GPU anyways so not really demanding any more out of the CPU.
>>51834357
BTW, contrast seems to be 1000:1 and Delta-e seems to be around 2.0. Its 10 bit so it can maintain good gamma and delta-e even though it has high contrast (many monitors with high contrast have bad colors because low bit depth).
Seems really solid.
>>51834423
I've got the lower-end Freesync model (only overclocks to 85Hz) and it's the best fucking monitor I've ever seen. Blacks aren't as good as my plasma (obviously), but it covers like 99.9% sRGB out of the box with no additional calibration, so it still looks slick as hell.
>>51833333
You already can in most games, just not all of them. Might have to turn down aliasing and shadows a bit.
You don't need anti-aliasing at 4k, so probably sooner than you think.
>>51834515
Well, sRGB isn't really a big deal anymore. For a 10bit ips I'd expect it to cover sRGB and get close to Adobe RGB. I assume it uses white LEDs instead of combination of different LEDs? White LEDs have a lower gamut than CCFLs and combination LEDs.
Regardless, its definitely a solid monitor specswise.
I'm sorta in the market for a new monitor since my FW900 broke. I still have my t221, and I love it, but you just can't game on it so its used as my programming and general work monitor.
>>51833333
shit quints
dumb gamertard
>>51834538
We aren't talking about turning down settings here
>>51834585
Yes you do, just not as much
>>51833990
We'll start to utilize more cores on a smaller manufacturing process on a larger die.
>>51833817
>fallout 5
For iPad
>>51833910
This tbqh. I want to puke every time I hear "people are expensive, RAM is cheap" or "Python's good enough, it's 2015 lol bro".
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>Why can't I do 5K gamu on my new iMac retina?
>>51833795
>C2D/Q keeping up for games
lol
>>51833444
if I hax the game and make low settings named ultra can I pick three?
>>51833333
When we can play 1080p@240fps.
>>51837030
>good goyims
>>51836523
at least with the efficiency of quad sli maxwell we can out do required power needed for a single AMD nucular core realtor GPU.
So technically 4k 60fps with a single card winky face
>>51833653
Metro......
>>51833467
> 4k
> AA
wat
>>51833333
980ti averages 40fps in Battlefront on Ultra at 4k, which is one of the best looking games of all time, and 45fps in Fallout 4 on Ultra at 4k
So if Pascal delivers in the smallest way we should be there
>>51837102
how about the Titan X?
>>51837133
Honestly I think it gets worse frames than the 980ti, could be wrong
>>51833333
Considering you didn't specify what settings you'll be using, I'm inclined to say we're already there.
Considering how much ultra settings tank the gpu compared to high at 1080p, I'd assume the gtx 980, the 390, or better, should be fine at medium or high.
>>51834380
Computer graphics technology is being developed so fast that the hardware can't keep up with it.
Computer game technology has stagnated so much that decade old CPUs can keep up with new games. When was the last time a new genre was invented?
I think it's simply the limitation of our computer architecture. All games that are possible on a computer have already been invented. Everything else is a variation.
>>51837188
No one cares about medium or high settings, 4K ultra 60fps on AAA modern games is the new hill to crest, and we aren't close yet
>>51833333
We still live in times that hardly one GPU can hadle old QHD with 60fps even phones have 4k already.
QHD is only 77% higher resolutiion than FHD. 4k is 4xFHD. I shot like another 10 years for this..
Pic realated and this in not even fps in LONDON.
So most of us cant still buy cheap a 4k TV and play new games in 4k res.
Also
>tfw no QHD TV.
>>51837188
ULTRA 4K AA settings to max. Final destination, everything lower is pleb tier.
>>51833333
980ti, most games ultra, 4k and above 60fps when you overclock like a madman
/thread
>>51833333
MGSV is pretty close to constant 60 on a single titan x
FO4 barely runs at close to constant 60 on dual titan x
>>51834077
>gook clickers
kek
