>Requesting purchase advice:
http://pastebin.com/hjHkKDyM
>/g/ wiki headphone FAQ:
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php?title=Headphones
>Previous thread:
>>51813071
I just watched that Zeos video and it was shit, for a better explanation if you're capable of reading:
http://nwavguy.blogspot.com/2011/02/headphone-amp-impedance.html
>>51827564
It's neutral.
Reposting from the other thread:
My Sennheiser HD 419's just broke cause I'm a dumbass and catch the cord on everything.
I'm looking for <100 recommendations.
I don't think they need to be closed, but I play a lot of video games and need to be able to hear what direction footsteps and stuff are coming from (the HD419's seemed to throw me off).
I mostly listen to Emo/Math rock, and live in U.S.
I'd like them to be comfortable because I'd be wearing them a lot.
Thanks!
>>51827816
Sennheiser HD 558.
>>51827822
How are the 518's? I'm just trying to gauge how much the price affects the quality.
>>51827639
>it's neutral except for when it's not but it's ok I can just dismiss those measurements and the impressions of many who say it isn't neutral
cool story bro
>>51827921
A step down from the HD 558/HD 598. It's kinda boomy.
HD 558 and HD 598 are identical in sound quality so the HD 558 is the most commonly recommended one here.
>>51827921
you want the 558s
>>51827972
Audiophile impressions are garbage, they often believe in stupid shit like cables make a difference or DACs having sound signatures.
Also read:
>>51827939
Because he clearly knows what he's talking about you you don't.
>>51827921
like the 558/598 they have the same drivers. difference is the pads are worse and it's much harder to mod them into a 598, you need yo remove the back grill entirely. on the 558 you just have to pull off a foam pad and close them back up. worth the extra cost imo.
>>51828003
that post is literally "nuh uh" in too many words. the fact is ety's measure as neutral or not neutral in equal measure. impression are split too. so you can't say one way or another. what you can say is that they have poor build quality and comfort in that is actual ear rape.
>>51828092
>post that completely debunks your half-assed knowledge
lol, the reason there are shit measurements is because the equipment used was shit or wasn't configured properly.
Impressions by casual audiophile listeners do not matter.
I find the ER-4s quite durable and there are many choices of tips, even aftermarket ones.
>>51828137
a claim that a measurement doesn't count because it was done bad is on the same level as an "audiophile impression". that post contains no knowledge.
Who /portapro/ here?
I've never not had a pair of these due to the warranty.
>>51828188
kek, if you're doing measurements they're supposed to be done properly
>>51828188
thats not true at all. instruments exist to give accurate technical data. if theyre not used correctly, they would be even shittier than an opinion. at least an opinion gives you an idea of at least one human likes. bad tool usage gives you nothing except incorrect results
>>51828192
Got a pair recently, love them. I hate headphones that encapsulate your ear so these are perfect for me. These provide decent sound quality, are slightly fashionable, comfy, and fold up nice and neat.
>>51828192
love em but I'm going to try some different pads because unless I place them down towards the temple they irritate the outer edge of the ear over time. for me anyways. also the hair grabbing thing is real but it only happened to me when I had shorter hair. if you have moderately long or very long hair it doesn't happen. like a lot of people they were my introduction to good headphones.
>>51828233
>>51828228
I'm not saying bad measurements aren't a thing. but you can't just claim bad measurement as proof for your argument. I could just as easily do the same and say all the measurements you see as true are flawed. you would need 10x the number of measurements from way more sources to even start to eliminate some as "bad". this is why measurements shouldn't be completely relied on.
>>51828313
You'll just have to replace the cable when it eventually breaks, but that's a nice evening project anyway.
Can't stop me that easy fuccboi
>>51828354
>I'm not saying bad measurements aren't a thing. but you can't just claim bad measurement as proof for your argument. I could just as easily do the same and say all the measurements you see as true are flawed. you would need 10x the number of measurements from way more sources to even start to eliminate some as "bad". this is why measurements shouldn't be completely relied on.
and this is exactly why im not part of you two's argument. it's literally pointless. you cant rely on measurements, and theres no reason to rely on other peoples subjective hearing either.
you must try things for yourself.
>>51828313
Good stuff, I never understood the people who say they're ugly.I think they look "rad".
>>51828354
> but I'm going to try some different pads because unless I place them down towards the temple they irritate the outer edge of the ear over time.
You can try PX 200 knockoff pads off ebay, I hear those work well. Wish there were some velour pads available.
>>51828363
This anon speaks the truth. My last pair died due to a cable break. I've never soldered anything before, but some day I need to get around to replacing the stock cable with a braided cable like the one on the Anniversary edition. My EM7's spoiled me. Might consider Kramer modding them as well.
I need a pair of earbuds. Budget is around $100. What do you recommend?
Anyone have opinions on the westone 4r? Is it good?
>>51827335
>Anime fap folder material got deleted
nice
>Budget
150-200 flexible
>Location
usa
>Source
iphone 5c mostly
>Preferred type of headphone
in ear, considering over ear though
>Open or closed
closed
>Comfort level
tolerable but mostly looking for sound quality
>Preferred tonal balance
not sure look at preferred music
>Preferred music
synthpop, shoegaze, dreampop, new wave
bands like the drums, new order, the cure, pet shop boys, my bloody valentine,
>Past headphones
nothing noteworthy
>>51828233
>headphone measurement
>if theyre not used correctly
Eh, I know well enough how they can go wrong, and what these errors correspond to in actual usage.
>>51828494
Discontinued, replaced by the pricier and less nicely built w40.
>>51828576
/hpg/ = faggotry off limit
>>51828684
The fact that its discontinued isn't a problem nor is the price, to me the sound quality is.
>>51828734
It's the same otherwise.
Midbass boosted, tip sensitive, dip in upper mids, the typical Westone thing. Tips affect the upper treble quantity it has
Are AD900Xs worth upgrading to from a pair of AD700X?
>>51828937
No, too similar.
>>51828957
Good upgrade from AD700X?
I only care about music, not interested in gaming performance.
>>51828412
I still look at plenty of measurements and I read impressions (from experienced listeners if I can), but I take both with some salt. ultimately what matters is gaining enough experience to make your own judgements with your own ears. too many people on /hpg/ own 1 or 2 headphones and then "listen" to graphs.
>>51828993
ATH-R70x or Sennheiser HD600.
Especially R70x if you're a fan of the AD700X's ergonomics.
I'm using a Asus Xonar D1 Soundcard with ATH M50s headphones, do I still need to equalize them flat?
Also looking for any upgrades since I've been using these for years and I have cash to burn, around $300
>>51829020
HD600 is a pretty big investment. $399AU for the headphones alone then $100-$200 for an amp. And the ATH-R70X are also $499.
The AD900X are only $250AU. I was more looking for a 1-tier upgrade, but if you reckon it's not worth it, I suppose saving up for HD600s would be the best idea.
>>51829079
Maybe you'd like Fidelio X2. No need for an amp. Bassy like M50s but in a different way.
No need to equalize anything unless you know what you're doing.
>>51829104
The AD900X is better but very marginally so. It's just not worth it. HD600 can be used without an amplifier, what soundcard do you use?
>>51829147
Xonar DG.
I suppose the HD600 would be an upgrade even unamped, and I could get an amp later.
Thanks anoon. I'll get a HD600. What amp would you recommend? I've heard the bottlehead crack is the go-to for HD600.
>>51828576
>4chanx
>deleted
mods hate sonico if it was something else equally lewd they probably would have left it.
For the guy asking about Mad Dogs in the previous thread they are amazing, though maybe not worth the $200+ asking price. I got mine for $170 and love them. they are not really bassy sounding, more warm. they are forgiving and smooth, very rich and a bit "thick" sounding, but not boomy at all. they need a bit of upper mid and treble boost with eq. compared to another highly regarded warm headphone which I also have experience with, the NAD hp50, the NAD sound more even and detailed by a bit, they're not as warm as the mad dog. but the mad dog win in fit and isolation by a mile. I had to stuff the pads and use some extra headband padding to get a good seal on the hp50, it's not uncomfortable but it feels awkward. the mad dog is a tad heady bit it snuggles your head with the huge alpha pads like no other closed headphone. the mad dog is a bit hard to drive though.
>>51829209
>bottlehead
Go back to headfi
>>51829209
DG can easily power a HD600, don't be fooled by the 300 ohm impedance.
My two most recommended amplifiers are Schiit Magni 2 and Objective2.
Bottlehead Crack is a bad amp by my standards because it has high output impedance. Maybe you have no idea what I'm saying, but look at this way, the Crack isn't accurate.
>>51829209
>I suppose the HD600 would be an upgrade even unamped
HD600's high impedance means it's free from most defects when using amplifiers, once it gets loud from any source that means its being driven sufficiently. A smartphone can power it to relatively loud levels. Hell my Nexus 6 makes it deafening on modern music.
>>51829210
>forgiving
>smooth
>rich
>thick
>even
>>51829262
Do I need a DAC too or can I get away with just an amp plugged into my sound card?
>>51829313
Your soundcard is already a DAC. No need to buy an additional one.
You should use the HD600s directly on the DG then decide if you want to buy an amp afterwards. Most likely you wouldn't need one.
>>51829362
Thx anon, you're p based
If I sell my ad700X I should have enough for some HD600s
Can't wait to join the master race
Anyone know what are the good iems for ~$150?
I'm looking for a good all around pair for music, movies and shit.
I don't need or want nigga bass. But the last few I've owned had pretty anemic bass.
So I'd like for my next pair to have a little more presence in the lower end of the spectrum.
>>51829432
http://theheadphonelist.com/2015-holiday-buyers-guide-the-most-gift-worthy-earphones-for-audiophiles-and-music-lovers/
GR07 classic.
>>51829453
Thanks I'll check that out
>>51829147
The fidelio x2 looks good, but what about something that's less bassy? Also what about a DAC or does having the soundcard cover for it too? I know how it works but I'm not sure if a good soundcard can compare to a good external DAC with AMP. Do you think I'll need anything else with the set up?
Got the SHP-9500's, and was really worried that the bass would be quite terrible, especially after seeing some of the opinions on /hpg/ but honestly the bass is great.
I mostly listen to ambient(brian eno type stuff), indietronica, rock, metal, and classical(all sound great on these cans).
used to be heavily into hip-hop but still listen to it if I find something I like
A bass heavy song I like to use as an example is the hills by the weekend(shitty hair, and "dude drugs" but nice voice) the bass is powerful but not too the point of throbbing; huge positive cause that will fuck me up with headaches.
I'm quite impressed by Philips products, as I also have a few HJE12's which sound amazing for 6 dollars, and in my experience have nice build quality
Thanks to everyone who recommended these to me, also I have a big head(7 7/8 hat size), and these actually fucking fit so happy with this purchase .
>>51829506
Your soundcard covers for it. If you want something less bassy you should consider the HD600.
A soundcard will match an external DAC's performance but the amp stage will be weaker. I recommend HD600 specifically because it's not that hard to drive.
If you get a dedicated amp you can try other options like DT880 600/250 ohm, K612, etc.
Just got the Xiaomi Hybrids
Pretty damn good for the price but damn they are pretty dark, and maybe not as detailed as I like. I feel like next time I should just go for a higher price tier bud as there's only so much $2- can get you
>>51829541
looks like we have another victim of sennheiser syndrome
>>51829607
$20*
>Creative Fatal1ty HS-1000 USB Gaming Headset
is this shit any good?
I need a poorfag headset.
>>51829698
>gaming
>headset
Someone post the picture for this guy.
>>51829541
>justifying massively rolled off bass
Lol it's not even accurate, it's just gone.
>>51829698
fuck wrong ones
>Creative HS800
http://www.amazon.de/Creative-Fatal1ty-Detachable-Noise-cancelling-Microphone/dp/B00FNK8MK2/ref=sr_1_1?s=kitchen&ie=UTF8&qid=1449961763&sr=8-1&keywords=Creative+Fatal1ty
>>51829698
>Gaming Headset
>>51829726
so, what cheap headphones should I get?
>>51829753
>can't do his own research
Why are you here?
>>51829753
beats
>>51829624
>sennheiser syndrome
what do you mean?
>>51829718
I guess my ears are pleb tier, cause It sounds great to them
>>51829939
>what do you mean?
you think that rolled off bass is "great"/accurate/neutral
>>51829753
I heard the hyperx ones are decent. Definitely don't get Memeseries Siberia. I had those before I bought real headphones
>>51827921
They are just as good, if you pay a lot less and mod them. Push out the plasroc shells on the side and replace with metal grill and superglue together. 598 sound for peanuts. Extremely balanced sound, never boomy. I put some speaker cloth on the grill, but today I found out it muddies slightly the sound so I took it out.
>>51830015
Oh and they all have exatly the same drivers and construction so... Jews designed it
Not so expensive wireless headphones? I already have a good bunch of wired ones but I need wireless.
>>51828192
I had three pairs since the cable and driver to headband connection broke, but the price and sound was too good. Then I got a nice pair of sony portables and into the trash they went.
with ohm-images rmaa results for the element, do you think it's likely we'll see a rev2?
>>51829541
No m8, they dont have bass, and thats good for you, but not for the rest of us who wants a BALANCED headphone (yes wow openheadphones need bass? Colour the sound of my impression)
Philip X2's worth the price tag?
>>51829753
Takstar 2050=hyper x cloud
>>51830154
For 220$ they definitively would have a much higher bang for their buck vs dt880 or hd 600, but paying 300, the competetion is steep. If you like lots of bass, x2, if you like regular no bass open sound, hd 600. Dt880 are decent choice if their under 200, but piercing trebles must be an acceptable thing
>>51829967
I never said accurate, or neutral as I do not have the experience of an audiophile or "audiophile" depending on who you're asking , but to my untrained ears they sound great
The people who bitch about rolled off bass are hilarious. I bet they think >>51827639 has no bass as well.
>>51830153
Hmm Thank you for the insight anon, I'm curious as to what would be a better balanced headphone between the 50-100$ range?
If I am missing out on something better I would gladly try it out to see how I like them.
>>51830534
Entry level is $100
>>51830534
At the top you have the modded 518s, but if you cant diy just go for 558. If you you can find philips for 60$, get them, they are super comfy. Other headphones are a real step down after that and sound like garbage once you have listened to these. But if you insist get takstar 2050, which are open and sound good but not great
>>51830075
Why is v2 needed?
>>51828412
>you cant rely on measurements
Because?
>>51830677
I actually did get the Philips for 60$ during the Newegg flash sale.
Just read up on modding the 518s and it seems much too hard for my skill level, compared to the 9500s how would the 558s(the foam mod looks pretty easy) fair, better and if so in what way?
Opinions on the Liberate XLBT?
>>51830894
probably the best headphones on the market bro. great purchase please enjoy them
>>51830911
Thanks man I think I'll get some
>>51830964
yes, theyre shit
>>51829541
/hpg/ always exaggerates the lack of bass. Those do have quite significant roll off but they should be fine for music listening.
>>51831031
bass is such a shit topic, because everyone wants something completely different. with treble, things are more simple. pretty much everyone wants a treble thats as bright as possible without being peaky. this isnt true for everyone, but at least it's a decent middleground.
but with bass, there is no fucking middleground whatsoever. it's niggerbass vs "peaked bass gives more impact" vs rolled off bass vs ruler flat bass of orthos vs NOBASS. its a fucking shitfest
>>51830154
A+ build quality
>>51831244
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvrDhs-Tkm8
Post the worst 'audiophile' headphones you've ever heard. No trolling.
For me, it's these. So muddy, so muffled, so unclear, just boomy bass. I've heard $5 IEMs that sound better.
>>51831244
except for the part where the earpads leak dye, right?
>>51831355
>>51831383
They don't smear on to skin or any other surface I've put them on, which is all that should matter
Who gives a shit if they smear ink on office paper
>>51831405
they smear visibly on white desktops
a+ build quality right right
>>51831425
Lets see some proof and not baseless accusations
>>51831380
>Post the worst 'audiophile' headphones you've ever heard.
ssssssssssssssssssssssoundsssssssssssss bad
>>51831455
i sold them already and got philips to send me a cheque for their retail price
they sound like shit too
>>51831484
Is that post supposed to convince anyone?
>>51831496
don't worry retard ill post a nice timestamped picture of the cheque when i get it
>>51831510
Sure you will. It'll come "any day now" until then huh?
>>51831530
it's okay, i know your autistic ass has this thread on auto-refresh every single day so i'm sure you'll see it
>>51831562
Yeah. I'm the autistic one...
You're the one saying you plan to post a pic of a check no one will now what the fuck it's about days later
if i have sr60e's should i still get a pair of m50x's? has anyone tried both?
>>51831355
>>51831405
lol wasn't some anon on here talking about how the coating was wearing off his gimbals?
He posted pics and everything, it was just flaking right off.
>>51828003
>Because they aren't proper measurements. Etymotic IEMs are so neutral that they can be used as a references for evaluating your couplers. Every competent measurement guru holds them in high regard, from Rin Choi, Sonove, Tyll, Speakerphone, etc.
It really shouldn't be a reference, Knowles can't match the transfer functions of ED receivers and dampers that tightly, not as well as a condenser mic. The ER-4 is simple and thoroughly measured, so it is easy enough to figure out where a major error occurs beyond manufacturer tolerances.
I would also say that some of those people are not all that knowledgeable, but they're the ones who coughed up the money for 10k in measurement gear, and they know enough most of the time.
>It's not bad. It's not even noticable.
Not bad, but definitely audible.
>maybe the ER-4S has a bump at 1-2kHz. ER-4PT has rolled off treble.
2-2.5kHz, much like AKG K 701.
I do like Etys though.
>>51831606
are they good headphones or not?
>>51831787
yeah that was happening with mine too, extremely minor around the edges so i managed to sell them still but god damn
i only had them for 3 weeks too
>>51831467
rapidshit
>>51831787
No proof no care
>>51832097
here ya go, just found it in the archive
http://rbt.asia/g/thread/S51226604#p51230817
>>51832152
not that guy, but yeah i remember this. i wonder how long hes owned them for?
>>51828488
Please help I'm still here
Is going the fiio route still worth it or is O2+ODAS just the superior path?
>>51832577
is it worth it? probably not. is the o2+odac better? yes
>>51828488
GR07 Classic
I just bought Coloud Pop Blocks in-ear for $19 equiv. without consulting /hpg/. What's your verdict with this brand and model?
>>51832687
Fidelio X2s VS HifiMan HE400s vs HD600/650 vs Mr. Speakers Mad Dogs(Pro)
???????????????????????
>>51829939
>>51829541
what you're perceiving as adequate bass or good bass or whatever is just a hump in the lower mids/upper bass. so you're still hearing bass, if anything what you're hearing is elevated bass, but it's only a fraction of the total bass there might be in a song. extreme extension isn't that important because not much music makes use of the lowest bass but the 9500 really does have bad extension, even for a bass-light headphone. the 598 is bass light but it's bass and extension is way better than the 9500. actual nobass would be like the ad700, or any other headphone that just has straight roll off. a hump into a roll off isn't that bad when it comes to "nobass".
who /comfy/ here
>>51829607
there are still no measurements of these, right? have you heard the piston 3? because I thought that one didn't sound dark at all and it had really good upper mids and highs.
>>51830154
you will get a better price if you wait I think. $250 or lower is where you should buy it. if you're willing to spend $300 wait for the 400i to come down that low again.
>>51827586
There's more than a few mistakes here.
>>51833739
>there are still no measurements of these, right?
The hybrids? Seeko plotted them.
>http://www.seeko.co.kr/zboard4/zboard.php?id=cool_review&no=482
>>51833676
i own these, they aren't really that comfortable
wasn't even a year before the pleather started cracking and peeling off in spades from the ear cups
not to mention that short ass cable
>>51829753
Takstar 2050
Takstar TS-671
>>51833821
got mine in 2012 and I don't use them daily, no cracking/peeling but yeah the cable is very short
SE535
Y/N
>>51833922
-Smooth, down tilted mid frequencies and decently extended bass response.
-Treble lacks ultimate extension, lacks top octave sorely.
-Tip choice can induce peaks in the mid treble, as with most narrow nozzle BA IEMs
-SE535 LTD (the red one) is the 535 with a different damper, has a slightly less rolled treble. Also just brighter. You can buy the filters aftermarket and install them if you want.
If the damper swap interests you, a bit of a guide.
>head-fi.org/t/663273/
-Shallow fit, cable over ear makes for fairly easy fit, with low cable noise. I knew a guy who didn't like the contours on the 535 however, compared to SE530.
-Included triflanges and foam tips make for very high isolation despite shallow fit.
-Very sensitive. This also means sensitive to hiss and electronic noise.
-Fluctuating impedance also mean that if you aren't careful with what you plug into, you can lose even more treble extension.
As for whether you should buy it, it sells used for significantly less than MSRP, around 300 or so. If used, it may be worth consideration
TLDR - physically active pseudo hobo needs durable (durability #1 overriding, maximum weight priority) earbuds/IEM, everything else irrelevant, $100 hard limit, please advise.
Salutations compatriots, I have literally gone through more than 7 sets of earbuds (you guys call them IEMs?) in the last 2 years. Every couple of months, without fail, one side stops working.
This has happened with $1 dollar store earbuds up to $50 probably overpriced Sony "bass-boosted" shit I bought at Best Buy (sorry, don't know name or model #). As I sketch this post, I am listening in one ear to some Xiaomi Pistons(?) I bought online for $15 this August because the other ear doesn't fucking work
Is it something wrong with my attitude or worldview? Should I stop viewing these implements as permanent or semi-permanent goods? Should I conceptualize headphones as a recurrent expense on a variable timeframe or some shit? Because I fucking rage when they break
Is there anything that is fucking DURABLE? I go to $5 local punk shows and mosh a lot. I've fallen off a couple of one-storey bungalows while inebriated. I live in an area that gets cold (-30C occasionally), and take buses that are heated (15C or 20C) as my main form of transportation. This is Toronto. Could it be the frequent changes in temperature that kills them? I like wandering the city at night a lot (especially in winter) and climbing stuff, or generally stumbling around aimlessly at night. Even when I'm in my apartment, I need to be moving (bouncing off the walls drunk or some shit); I can't just sit at my computer and passively listen to music. All of this, except for the winter temperature changes, happen on a weekly basis. I guess there's a LOT of wear and tear on the cord.
Sorry for the blog and elongated TLDR, but if I'm killing my brain with alcohol, I need to be able to fucking dance, and when one ear cuts out...
>>51834107
If I used it straight from my X3 2nd Gen, would it be fine?
>>51834458
They are IEMs if they go in the ear canal. Earbuds if they totally sit outside.
Almost all the time it is a cable break that kills the IEM, either by the plug or by the earpiece. If you boil down a headphone driver to how it works, the only way something can go wrong that way is a break in the wire.
The most nicely built IEM I can think of that doesn't break the bank is the ATH-IM50. It's kinda big, and you may have to import.
>>51834458
MC5 maybe? It has Kevlar around the cable.
SE215 near the top of your budget has fairly sturdy detachable cables.
Or I guess you can give in and treat IEMs as disposable, which they mostly are if you put them under a lot of stress going out and about. M6/M9 are decent cheap beaters. My M6 lasted a couple years before one of the wires detached from the housing.
>>51833676
>pleather
>/comfy/
"no"
>>51834107
How do they compare to IM04s
IS there an audible difference between an O2+ODAC combined in a single unit as opposed to each being seperate?
>>51835320
No.
Etymotic Research ER4P-T
ATH-IM02
or Sony MDR 7550
help me decide /hpg/?
>>51835527
Also is there a difference between deluxe and normal, i'm seeing a 100$ price difference where i live.
its impossible for a noob to decide on anything because all the reviews sound subjective
>>51835602
I don't know what a deluxe version is. If it's just something which has preamp outputs in the back or some of the inputs moved in there, no. O2 should always have the same layout.
>>51835547
Etymotic
>>51835547
I would get the ER-4PT.
Flatter than the other two, better isolation (may be a pro or con).
>>51835700
Thus you look at measurements.
>>51835704
Alrighty sweet, time to order.
>>51833140
>Fidelio X2s
shit quality control, terrible highs, I don't recommend it for 300
>400s
terrible build quality just get the 400i when it goes on sale again
>HD600/650
i'm not a sennshill so I won't talk these up, they sound flat and are really good or something while somehow having nobass
>Mr. Speakers Mad Dogs(Pro)
I see no reason to get this as Fostex updated their T50rp line a short while ago and that costs more than half the price and supposedly sounds very similar if not improved.
>>51833140
-bassy/mild v-shape
-mid-focused but can get bassier with different pads
-mid-focused
-warm
they're all good and all comfortable. really depends on what you want in the sound.
>>51833791
yep those look very dark, like 681-evo levels. kind of impressive in that they're not so peaky or v-shaped like other hybrids but the bass is just too much.
are dt880s as good as everyone makes them out to be? i have a wide variety of headphones and also dt770s so should i even bother?
>>51835822
Thanks for the response.
Then, what would you recommend for a relatively bassy headphone?
Looking for over ear headphones.
- I like bass, and I mainly listen to EDM
- Max price is $150USD
- I'm getting them for music
- Over ear is by far the most important thing
I'm very new to the audio game, and certianly no audiophile. Just want a good, bassy paor of over ear headphones.
>>51836093
Not him, but imo, the 400i has some fantastic bass.
I'd wait for them to drop to $300 again though.
They also eq very well if you do not like the bass out of the box.
>>51836327
Thanks man, what kind of AMP would I need to drive those?
>>51836383
I'm using a SMSL SD793-II with them. $60. Works great.
>>51836215
Anyone?
>>51836579
DT 770 Pro/Premium
230 ohm for best sound.
>>51836619
That's a little pricey. Any other suggestions?
>>51836093
X2 or 400i
lowest X2 has been is around $220, lowest 400i has been is $300.
>>51836655
but theyre 150
>>51836655
http://www.amazon.com/Beyerdynamic-770-PRO-250-ohms/dp/B0006NL5SM/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1449993827&sr=1-1&keywords=dt+770+pro+250+ohms
I'm a pleb. I have these old Razer Orcas.
Got myself AKG k375 for my commute and now I want to upgrade my over the ears.
How much of a leap will it be if I get a M50X, truly?
>>51836921
>M50x
literally worse than Beats so no leap whatsoever.
>>51836981
I know its a dumb question. 160€ is not a small price for me so I really hope I get my moneys worth.
And I cant find a place to hear the headphones sadly.
>>51837004
you won't get your moneys worth if you go with the M50x. either get the m40x or the nvx xpt100/brainwavz hm5 or sony mdr-v6/7506
>>51830828
Well separation and clarity is better, but as I said in my origianl review, there is no point in getting senhheisers if you can get philips for 60$
>Budget
100 Dollars+
>Location
Australia
>Source
Laptop, Galaxy 5
>Preferred type of headphone
Over ear
>Open or closed
closed
>Comfort level
Sound > comfort but at least tolerable
>Preferred tonal balance
>Preferred music
Electric, drum and bass , hip hop, rock
>Past headphones
all shit
>>51838682
Sony MDR 7506
>>51828192
Have my pair a year now and still love them. I accidentally ripped of the cable but the support is great an i got a new pair for free.
AudioTechnica M50X's or Sennheiser HD 598, will be used for a bit of gaming and listening to music.
Any suggestions?
>>51839384
SHP 9500, it's better than the HD600
bamp
Alright let's see if any one of you scrubs can suggest me something as a test. If you have the knowledge.
>no shilling edition unless it's specifically designed from the suggestion
>multiple suggestions excepted
>Budget
55-666$CAN (Tax included)
>Location
Canuckland
>Source
JDS labs C5D + Sansa fuze v2/clip zip, Samshit note 3, Nvidiot shield, Linux laptop&pc
>Preferred type of headphone
OE-full sized
>Open or closed
meh
>Comfort level
55-100%
>Preferred tonal balance - top to bottom
neutral
bright
warm
v-shaped
bassy
>Preferred music
Super Adele 25, IndieCrap, adult alternative, spic salsa, underground jazz
>Past headphones
MSR7(+fairly neutral -closed), K550(+somewhat v-shaped -closed), v-moda XS(+warm -on-ear)
>>51839384
598 for sure i have both of those headphones btw
>>51839529
HE 400i
>>51839604
I tried that, not really my flavor of choice. Thanks for trying, I guess.
>>51839682
then you dont actually want neutral
get the fidelio x2, or hd650 if you want a middleground between the x2 and 400i, sort of
>eur 50-100
>italy
>ipod classic
>full-sized
>closed
>not really relevant
>neutral/bassy
>electronic
>AKG K-518 - a little unconfortable and too bassy
I forgot to bring headphones on a trip the other day and senheiser are doing a cash back at the moment. So I picked up some urbanite XL's. Much better than my old 555's, but they do require tweaking EQ alot more when changing genres
>>51839834
mdr-v6/mdr-7506 (have the same drivers, get whichever is cheaper)
>>51839765
I was wondering between myself the hd600 or something different like the K701/702/7XX particularly. Maybe I should tolerate the 400i, it's kind of OK with my shit. Also equalizing is like next by anyway.
Also tried the hd650, sounds great with indie music but anything else just doesn't seem right. Also prices here are disgusting unless it's on sale or used.
>X2
>>51839908
those seem a little too big, I have studio headphones for the office (Shure SRH440) and that cable is way too long/thick to be carried around...alternatives? AKG were the perfect size
>>51839935
why are you greentexting the x2? theres a pretty good chance that if you dont like the sound signature of all the previous, that you would like the x2. especially if what you didnt like about the 650 was the "veil." if you dont even like that, try the hd600. if you dont like /that/, you dont like anything. those are pretty much all the different sound signatures represented.
neutral, bassy, bright, bassy & bright
>>51839956
mmm.. those are definitely perfect for you quality wise. maybe the m40x?
>>51839987
yeah, they look perfect, but not for outdoors...
I walk around with them a lot
>>51839998
i mean, i dont know how many full sized headphones are going to do okay outside... if it needs to be this specific, you might be better off just buying another pair of what you had before... takstar pro80?
How are the Philips SHP9500 in gaming performance compared to the AD700X?
I'm interested in them as they are a bit cheaper, and an anon on the previous thread recommended they are good for people who wear glasses.
>>51840053
those have that big cable, too
I guess I'd like something pretty much as big as the AKG K518, but a little less bassy
>>51840096
>>51840096
well i dont know if you noticed but the cable on the m40x is detachable, so you could use any small cord you have or buy with it. other than that, im out of ideas. im a neet so im not much on the mobile thing, maybe someone else will come by... sorry senpai
>>51839834
>>51839956
>>51840096
>want full sized headphones
>want headphones the size of on-ears
i don't think you know what you want anon
>>51840168
he probably has quite small ears. theres no way those things would fit "over" my ears
the fact akg calls them overears is quite crazy in the first place
>>51840191
>>51839834
HD-25 SP II it could be then
>>51840243
looks good, wonder if hes still here
>>51839987
>why are you greentexting the x2?
I'm not a bassy type of a person, maybe the msr7 is messing me up. And my XS are there for that matter.
>try the hd600. if you dont like /that/, you dont like anything.
Like I said before, I might considered the hd600 the only option, but I know somebody who could sell me one of the AKGs K700 series used. So that's why I'm also struggling between the two cans.
Or give up and invest on speakers to annoy the neighbors. But sacrifice nighttime listening for myself and others.
>>51840277
>I'm not a bassy type of a person, maybe the msr7 is messing me up. And my XS are there for that matter.
i see. you said you didnt like the 400i, was it because it was still a bit too bassy for you?
>Like I said before, I might considered the hd600 the only option, but I know somebody who could sell me one of the AKGs K700 series used. So that's why I'm also struggling between the two cans.
i think all the k7... headphones are on the bassy side. probably around the same magnitude as the hd650, maybe slightly less. but if the bass is the reason you didnt like the 400i, im pretty sure the hd600 is definitely the headphone for you
>>51840313
>i see. you said you didnt like the 400i, was it because it was still a bit too bassy for you?
Comparing side by side with the 400S, unfortunately yes.
>i think all the k7... headphones are on the bassy side.
The K7XX/K712 pro are the ones that are bassy as tits. Just the K701/K702 are the opposite; bright as a sunset.
>im pretty sure the hd600 is definitely the headphone for you
Yeah, I agree on that.
>>51840434
i see i see. maybe you needed less of a rec, but someone to sanity check your thoughts before you dive.
but you helped me as well. i have a 400i coming and i was worried it might not be bassy enough. extension is great, but it's mostly a neutral headphone with the slightest warm tilt. im HOPING its more warm than not, as a lot of people say it's pretty much nothing, and you just put a bit of fuel on that flame. so thanks senpai
Is there really a valuable reason to buy 400€ + headphones?
Guys.. my earphones just broke.
Got 25€ to spend on some new ones.
Need a somewhat good sound quality and they need to have a microphone since I use it to be on team speak with friends and shit.
>>51834469
Never used it with X3 gen 2.
It should be fine as far as impedance is concerned. Noise, hopefully it won't be too bad.
>>51835022
Memory of IM04 is hazy. It didn't sound like 535, much more of a general bass/low mid lift. Also has a more high reaching treble. Kinda like Fitear TG334, if you have any idea what it is like.
535 has much smaller shell than IM04. IM04 is pretty fat.
Isolation better on the Shure, couldn't get that with IM04 and other tips.
A friend of mine is looking for an open full sized headphone, around 130€ in Italy.
>t-tfw thought of /hpg/ mid fap
>>51828192
I haven't listened to these at all, but am I the only one who thinks they look ugly as sin? I wanted to get my gf a throwaway pair of good on-ears, but they're so ugly it's a deal-breaker for me since they're intended for portable.
Are thw Shure 215 good for portable/gym??
>>51830031
Please respond.
Anyone know of decently built clip-on headphones or the ones that go around your neck? I need something inexpensive and comfortable for my mother. Do not care about the audio quality but I want something that is a bit more durable than ksc75. I had the ones in the pic long ago but I don't remember if they were comfy.
>>51840474
Thanks and no problem too family.
The 400i has more like a Fun signature without overbloated bass. I would like it too, it's just a small boost of harmless bass. And if you don't like it, there is still return policy right?
>>51840633
>touching anything with your pre-mayonnaised hands without cleaning them up
>>51840735
Portable uses, yes. The gym, maybe. You may end up sweating them, and it might damage it or not if you're lucky.
>>51840764
Mee Audio Air-Fi Matrix2 AF62??
I'm not a big fan of bluetooth myself.
>>51840852
The ones Koss made are pretty good, I forgot what it's named.
So after asking I got recommended several headphones
HD598
HD600 for flat sound
Fidelio X2 for bassy
SHP9500, even though the quality build is shit apparently and no bass
I want sound clarity, only for music, I already have an ATH M50s I use for games.
>>51841001
>SHP9500, even though the quality build is shit apparently and no bass
Same things apply to HD 598 and HD 600.
>>51841046
Alright, what would you recommend around that price range for clear sounding headphones?
>>51841001
build quality is better than sennheisers by miles, i own both. But they are nobass, even compared to nobass 598
>>51841082
HE400S
DT 880
>>51841001
>x2
>bassy
More like boomy, mid bass mud.
That shit rolls off like a pair of grados.
>>51841046
This.
>>51841001
The SHP 9500 is still the best in its price range, unless you can afford a Fidelio X2 and be in peace for the rest of your life.
>>51841104
>HE-400s
for what purpose? that's literally worse than all of the other headphones listed.
>>51841001
Those Senns have more bass than the SHP and their build is alright.
>>51840852
koss portapros
>there is still return policy right?
yep. i have a feeling theyre going to be pretty much perfect for me though... fingers crossed
>>51841082
if you dont care about bass, hd600. if you just have to have it, x2. also check out he400s like >>51841104
said. dt880 will also feel like not much bass, at least thats how they felt to me, but will be clear
>>51841112
> mid bass mud
>boomy
X2 bass is detailed and it doesn't overshadow other frequencies. Good job at shitposting ;)
>>51841148
It doesn't work like that. You emphasize something, you lose it elsewhere.
>>51841125
>for what purpose? that's literally worse than all of the other headphones listed.
The only thing that's strictly worse is the seal.
>>51841112
Now this is shit posting. Everyother wellknown audiophile has said differently. I trust the collective (and my ears)
>>51841377
>audiophile
An audiophile has never heard sub-bass, all they listen to is pink Floyd and phish remasters.
>>51841377
Yes, amd among them there are mainly Zeos amd Tyll, which is a big plus
I need a new headphone fast, I was looking at the new Sennheisser HD 451, but I can't find any decent reviews on it.
>Budget
<€55
>Location
Netherlands
>Source
Computer with Xonar DGX mostly for music
>Preferred type of headphone
Full sized over ear or on ear idk
>Open or closed
dunno
>Comfort level
Don't really care if I can get better sound for less comfort
>Preferred tonal balance
I like bass and warm sound
>Preferred music
Old rock, Pop, Pink Floyd. Also dubstep and house
>Past headphones
Sennheisser HD 202-2
>>51839529
HD600.
>>51841082
HD600.
>>51841716
HD600 has bass, it's just rolled off a bit in the sub-bass.
>>51841743
What about DT 880 Premium 250 ohm vs the hd600
>>51840972
>I forgot what it's named.
KSC35/KSC75
>>51841743
I will never stop finding that suspect.
>Budget
<€25
>Location
Portugal
>Source
Laptop, Android phone
>Preferred type of headphone
earphones like xiaomi piston or something
>Comfort level
Not rly important
>Preferred tonal balance
I like bass and warm sound
>Preferred music
Everything.
>Past headphones
13€ shit tier
>>51841795
DT880 has slightly better sub-bass, but less accurate upper midrange and treble that's too bright.
>>51841825
When you listen to HD600 you hear a slight mid-bass emphasis.
What does /hpg/ think about the MEElectronics A151?
It's $35 on amazon, uses a single balanced armature driver (like Etymotic), relatively neutral. Comes with a carrying case and extra tips.
Is this a good IEM to try balanced armature IEMs? I've never heard one before.
>>51841848
So nothing is more clear sounding than the hd600 in the $300 range?
>>51841830
>xiaomi piston
Kanen KM-92
They're €4 here:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/A-S0-Kanen-KM-92-Wooden-Bass-In-ear-Headphones-Earphone-Headset-/271358397847?hash=item3f2e388d97:g:gk4AAOxyUrZSv0xR
>>51841917
Sony MDR-V6 is clearer sounding than the HD600. But it's probably not what you want, it's also less accurate.
HD600's clarity is mostly due to its accurate diffuse field equalization at 2-4kHz, same thing applies to the Sony MDR-V6 but it falls short in other frequencies.
>>51841967
Are you sure you're not suffering of sennheiser syndrome? I refuse to believe nothing competes with the hd600
>>51841986
No, the HD600's measured performance speaks for itself. There is the Shure SRH-1840 that's more accurately diffuse field which is what I own, but it's very susceptible to bass leakage like the AKG K701 which I previously owned.
I prefer both over the HD600, but HD600 is the king of accuracy for most, its consistency is very good, so is DT880 but it's not as accurate as the HD600.
>>51841082
Soundmagic HP200
They compete pretty well with the 600/650 series. Here's one for 200 bucks
http://www.ebay.com/itm/SoundMAGIC-HP200-Premium-Over-the-Ear-Circumaural-Folding-Open-HiFi-Headphone-/400920126619?hash=item5d58b3a49b:g:RWIAAOSwpdpVVaRh
>>51842013
The sub-bass roll-off appears worse on a raw curve and then the headphone has no mid-bass lift, on a DF curve the sub-bass is almost neutral but has a mid-bass lift.
I perceive it as having a slight mid-bass emphasis.
>>51842058
>soundmagic
I've the e10 earbuds, they are alright but I'm not sure about headphones from them.
>>51842072
I am the first to bash chinese stuff, but they did a good job with them. I have the 3 of them with me here (HD600, 650 and HP200), and i say they compete pretty well.
If you can't trust the brand just because it's their second full size headphone, it's cool.
>>51842058
They are fucking garbage.
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/SoundMAGICHP200.pdf
>>51842133
>shilling this hard
>>51842062
I really hate arguing about frequency response. Take some documents on frequency response.
>http://www.ganino.com/games/British%20standard/BS%20EN%20ISO/BS%20EN%20ISO%2011904-1-2002.pdf
>http://www.ganino.com/games/British%20standard/BS%20EN%20ISO/BS%20EN%20ISO%2011904-2-2004.pdf
My unit has a very loose headband from over a decade of use. Less midbass, and subbass than a usual pair, fresh pads or otherwise.
Got a fresh unit to compare with, more midbass and subbass. Stronger rolloff than 650 still.
Any measurements of the SMSL SD793-II China amp/dac? Looks cool but I don't want to potentially waste money.
>>51842363
O2+ODAC is all you need.
>>51842198
Saved, will read them in the future.
>>51842481
I can upload some more crap in a bit, just ask.
>>51842573
Maybe make a pastebin with all the stuff you've got? They're good reading material for people that are new and ones who are still learning like myself.
>Budget
$60
>Location
America land of the free
>Source
Built in sound card, mixer
>Preferred type of headphone
Whatever has best sound lol
>Open or closed
Doesn't matter
>Comfort level
All day use
>Preferred tonal balance
Flat
>Preferred music
All, focus on electronic
>Past headphones
Audio Technica ATH M30 and skullcandy aviator shit
>>51842585
https://a.uguu.se/itqzcd.7z
Where to upload this stuff to for a more permanent storage? It's a stack of AES papers.
>>51841795
>>51841001
Coming back to these posts, in my country I found these prices, take into account things will be more expensive and importing might be more expensive than my estimate.
DT 880 Premium 250ohm $225
DT 880 Premium 600ohm $240
HD 598 $190 No stock Used $200
HD 600 $305 No stock Import is $430
Fidelio X2 isn't sold anywhere, would have to import for $385
HiFiMAN HE400S $325
SHP9500 No stock, Import is $200
Apparently there's no stock anywhere for the hd600 or hd650, sennheiser is too popular like usual. I'm leaning towards the DT880, unless someone can convince me otherwise.
>>51842444
shit ergonomics hiss monster
>>51842933
mega.co.nz
Are the k612's good, debating them or th dt990's.
going to buy the DT 770 pro for gaming
am I making a mistake?
what ohms should I go with?
>typical sennheiser owner
https://youtu.be/Tlt1mmQE2Zo?t=133
>>51843242
>>51842933
Maybe a dropbox link?
>>51842948
Go with the DT880. Best value there.
>>51842965
What the fuck am I reading?
>>51842987
Better than DT990.
>>51842948
Yeah DT880 will be a good choice, the difference between the 250/600 is negligible and probably not worth buying the 600ohm for and risking not having a source powerful enough.
>>51842999
LMAO
>>51842933
Some good stuff here, downloaded and saved it.
