r/watches edition
Previous thread : >>51809156
So, best subreddit on /g/, is this watch good for daily use?
>waaaah Leddit tier consumerist hugboxes are ruining muh /g/
>posts ironic consumerist hugbox thread because meta
Yeah. Die.
>>51825617
Lol butthurt
>>51825617
>ironic consumerist hugbox thread
Where ?
>>51825591
It looks great, wear in in good health!
>>51825799
upboated and gilded my friend
Does this trigger you, /g/? ;)
>>51825837
>waking up at 6:45 on a sunday
triggered
Help me decide /g/
Hamilton jazzmaster day date (black dial)
Or
Seiko brightz SDGM003
I use my phone tbqh
>>51825837
Nice chink Marine Chronometer toy.
>>51825872
>automatic
or
>AUTOMATIC
>>51825872
Between those two, Gay Date. I ended up choosing a SARX over the Jizzmaster myself, though.
>>51825872
The finishing on the casing and the bracelet of the SDGM is amazing.
>>51826071
Big fat dress watch for big fat canucks. I'd be more inclined to like it at like 36mm.
>>51825799
Don't meme on me!
>>51825550
Posted at the end of last thread but couldn't get replies before this new one.
$180 NOMOS knock off with everything right to the millimeter about the design, except of course the movement.
What are /wt/ favourite watch related blogs ?
Worn&wound ?
aBlogtoWatch ?
Watchreport ?
>>51826115
>36mm
Are you a 4ft woman?
WAYWT senpai?
>>51826123
Should I go for a NATO strap on this one?
>>51826127
WUS, obviously.
>>51826159
Here's the back too
>>51826123
isn't it just the rodina with a different dial
>>51826127
i only read wornandwound and it's alright i guess.
hodinkee seems really cool but i don't actually care that much about watches that cost several thousand dollars.
>>51826159
No, stick it on a Black Mesh
>>51826187
The movement is probably the same or very similar. Look at this pic
>>51826175
It's got "NOMOS Glashutte" written on the pendulum and the same writings around the back as a gen. There's also NOMOS written on the strap, crown, and buckle just like the gen.
Honestly it's a carbon copy except for, of course, the movement.
>>51826250
I really don't see the appeal in fakes.
I really like that design, but if I can't afford the real deal (which I can't) I would rather not get one that tries to pass itself as real.
>>51826187
You can check out better quality pics on the actual website.
aliexpress,com/item/New-Name-Brand-Wristwatch-Nomos-Watches-Men-Sea-Gull-Automatic-Movement-Relogio-Masculino-Montre-Homme-de/32346164532.html?ws_ab_test=searchweb201556_2_79_78_77_82_80_62,searchweb201644_0,searchweb201560_4
>>51825591
Fashionable choice!
Wear it in good health, friend :^)
>>51824495
Bro if you're still here you might want to consider Stowa. The base movement is a Valjoux 7750 but they offer an option where they modify it to be hand winding only.
>>51825872
That depends, do you want your money to pay for manufacturing quality or marketing budgets?
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AUWwSoZQUD0
>>51826495
Will do, bestie xD
Snowflake in the Manhattan store.
This literally makes me hard.
>>51825115
>The Seiko Brightz line will happily go toe-to-toe with an Omega AT and it isn't even a GS.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Not only the Aqua Terra looks better than that dull piece of shit, it has an infinitely better movement. You Seiko shills are really fucking delusional sometimes.
>>51825872
The retarded AUTOMATIC alone should disqualify the SDGM003 from running.
>>51826908
What is everyone's problem with this? How many other fucking watches have AUTOMATIC or even more text and yet no one bats an eye at that shit?
![20151212_222148[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/l20Wq3Z.jpg "20151212_222148[1].jpg")
>>51826949
Bad choice of font type and/or size.
>>51826949
>everyone
I think it's just one or at maximum two-three autismos. /wt/ has probably the most inflexible sperglords on all /g/, throwing tantrums at nuances.
>>51826784
Here m8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycKEP3wqv-o
>>51826784
I question the logic of spending over a grand on Japanese watches.
>>51827045
Sounds like someone has been drinking too much Swiss Kool-Aid.
>>51826908
I agree. I much prefer the script "Automatic" with DIASHOCK 23 JEWELS 20 BAR.
>>51827045
As opposed to spending a grand on slightly modified ETA kikeshit?
>>51827045
Are you a moron?
Can you try to learn the minimum about watches?
>>51827099
The problem is none of Seiko watches are as good as serious entries from Swiss manufacturers like say, the Rolex Explorer 2.
>>51827185
That looks like fucking shit.
>>51827025
>sensual jazz porn music
Fitting.
>>51827185
This looks like the watch I used to wear in high school.
>>51827227
This is very pretty. Functional and elegant.
>>51826142
Wore my estranged grandfather's Longines on a "just fuck my arm hair up" expansion bracelet for a bit while visiting my grandma's house. It's a fantastic watch I would make my daily piece but my grandmother told me "god forbid I let you have it and he remembers that he still owns the thing"
On the bright side she told me right after "if he dies first it's all yours"
>>51826878
Aqua Terra is one of my grails. Depending on if it's around in a few years or if there's something I like better, I might get one for my 30th birthday
>>51827185
This post just proves you haven't spent any time looking at what Seiko had to offer.
Not sure what you meant with "as good" but Seiko's on almost all price points out perform Swiss brands.
If you meant aesthetically, personal taste comes into play, sure, but if you actually deny the GSs and Credors aren't beautiful (regardless of your taste) you're just an ass.
>mfw redditors call bumps "upvotes"
>mfw redditors call sages "downvotes"
>mfw redditors call anons "4channers"
>mfw redditors call exploitables "memes"
>mfw redditors call ms paint comics "ragecomics"
>mfw redditors think /r/4chan is an accurate description of this site
>mfw redditors bring their unfunny shit here
>mfw redditors seriously think most anons lurk their shitty site
>in CS class
>mention to another student that I'm working on an IRC bot
>kid tells me its a bad idea
>redditfag pulls up reddit, shows me an article
>read the article because now I'm curious
>article is about an Android Trojan controlled by an IRC bot
>re-read the article, just to make sure
>yup. IRC bot being used to control a Trojan
>mfw my IRC bot has nothing to do with Trojans
>mfw my IRC bot has nothing to do with the article
>mfw IRC bots are neither illegal nor a security flaw
>mfw redditfags don't know jack shit about technology
This same kid is also fascinated by `w` `last` and `cd $HOME/..; ls -l`. He's probably never even used IRC.
Here's the article, if you're curious: http://www.securelist.com/en/blog/208193332/IRC_bot_for_Android
>>51827305
Another shot
>Have le friend who claims he is good with computers
>Go around his house
>He browses 4chan
>le pokerface.jpg
>I ask him, why doesn't he use reddit?
>he said it's is shit
>I say lol no! it's the best durr all the people on the internet recommend it, its the base of good discussion without shitposting.
>He wants to show me that 4chan is better than reddit (lol /b/tard)
>He goes to the Technology board
>tech support general, GNU and metathread everywhere
>I call him a stupid faggot and tell him its shit and he doesn't know shit about technology
>THEN HE called 'ME' an idiot
>Mfw le rageface
>>51827165
>>51827106
The guy has a point. While, all things considered, I would take the snow fraku springu drivu in a heartbeat, I do have to question what will happen to it a decade or more after Seiko has thrown out the 9R15 and moved on to something else. While I know a lot of good watchmakers who can work wonders with the Hi-Beats (assuming they can get parts when needed), I don't know anyone who has a fucking clue how to service these things other than Seiko themselves. These expensive watches should be able to last a lifetime, I don't want to walk into Seiko one bright morning in 2032 and have them tell me "sorry ASSHOLE, this movement was discontinued in 2020, there's no parts you stupid fucker" while across the street at Rolex they'll be telling you "we'd be happy to service that for you, sir".
>>51827369
Neat. Do you have any idea when it was made?
>>51827185
You don't even have to go that far. Anything from Nomos alone is better than 99.3% of Seiko's line-ups.
>>51827389
According to her it was bought as a wedding gift (for himself) back in 1962. In 1965 they took a trip to venice and he accidentally broke the crystal, and had it replaced with a dome taller than the case (which I actually like).
>>51827371
>>51827351
why are you posting this here
>>51826878
At least post the prettiest aqua terra bro.
>>51827185
Wow you really have been brainwashed. I'm not trying to say Seiko is the best ever because they aren't. I'm also not trying to shit on Swiss watches, there are plenty of great manufacturers and plenty of Swiss watches I drool over. You sound ignorant and narrow minded about watches though. Seiko can absolutely stand toe-to-toe with some of the Swiss greats.
>>51827251
It's the japs who are good at making jazzy machine porn.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gl85BBgcUQs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ys3KUBpJNMo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4DaYjwEM0g
>>51827443
>the fucking hands
Jesus christ, I'd expect this in a $10 watch, not in a fucking $10k watch!
>>51826878
I swear the Seiko shills in /wt/ are as crazy as those Tissot fags from r/watches. They probably think that their Jap brand has as much prestige as Rolex, IWC, Patek Phillipe or A. Lange & Söhne.
What are some good quartz with only hour minute second display?
>>51827369
>>51827305
Really love the look of these old Longines. Cool watch, but your family sounds like it's kinda fucked.
>>51827495
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ys3KUBpJNMo
The Bezel font kills it. Fat font looks terrible in general in my opinion.
[spoiler]I liked the music[/spoiler]
>>51827643
>but your family sounds like it's kinda fucked.
boy that's a very long and convoluted way of saying "Italians"
>>51827526
>prestige
What does that buzzword even mean you faggot? You're buying the watch, not the whole fucking factory!
>>51827305
Am i being totally stupid in that i don't understand how the face of watches get so fucked up over time ?
Suerly glass and a steel case should protect it ? even if it's getting through the back it's gotta get through the movement and round the face
>>51827676
Normally, a watch (like any other piece of jewelry) has to be bought within a budget which fits the person's financial worth. A rolex, l&s, or PP (but >iwc >presitge LMAO) is regarded as an expensive watch even to those who don't know shit about watches (unlike seiko, because seiko makes lots of cheap watches even though they have their GS series), and thus tells onlookers that you are "rich" (for some very commoner definition of the term), which proffers prestige unto you.
>>51827737
UV damage mostly I'd guess.
>>51827755
No one except watchfags know what the fuck any expensive watch besides a rolex is.
>>51827755
>hur durp wrist fedoras re muh status symbols
Just wear a fake gold Hublot then you fucking used car salesman.
>>51827737
I'd assume UV, though I did post a bit later saying how at one point the watch crystal was damaged and replaced. Presumably something could've happened then at that point. Other than that the current mildly roughed up crystal and poor incandescent light from my grandmas knockoff Tiffany lamps probably contributes to the illusion that the dial is much worse off than it really is.
>>51826142
Seiko 7548-700F manufactured in December 1980. Original bezel insert, but I have a new one on the way because this one is too pink for my liking. New crystal on the way, too.
What's the best chronograph I can get cheaply?
College student with little money here.
>>51827851
Probably some quartz seiko, timex, casio, or something.
>>51827851
Seiko SSB
>>51827835
An old guy wearing one of these (albeit with a black insert) commented on my 7002.
Pretty much the only other person here that i saw wearing a Seiko diver.
>>51827851
On that note, is the Casio EF503D Edifice any good?
>>51827884
7548 guy here. Obviously I like this one, too. Just something about the pepsi bezels on these Seiko divers that I've always loved.
>>51827851
f91w
>>51827851
ca53w, it has split second and much more for 12 bucks on amazon.
>>51828065
>>51828112
how are these chronographs?
>>51828140
chronograph functions built into them, but if you want to go the analog route i guess you can look at other casios.
if you're taking the mechanical route check out seagull movement watches found in homages like alpha paul newmans.
>>51828140
they are functional and cheap. They have all the functions you could want and are essentially disposable/replacable.
at the same time my grandfather has worn the same F91w for over a decade
>>51827387
That's actually a solid point.
It's easy though, fascinating movements will always be serviceable. You can still find a few specialists who know the in's and outs of the Accutron 214.
The Spring Drive is such a different and interesting movement there will be people around to service it.
Plus Seiko won't drop it, it's not a fad. It's a revolutionary movement, even when it's updated you'll be able to get Seiko to service it. And what's wrong with sending it to Seiko, I'd rather them work on it than a random watchmaker. Credors use spring drives, they won't be left hanging.
>>51828168
Sorry, I didn't mean to come across as rude. Thank you for the suggestions. I'll start shopping around.
>>51828243
I'm pretty sure Seiko doesn't service their own watches once they're too long out of production, that's the whole problem. You can send off your 100 year old Omega to their factory and yeah they'll charge you out the ass and they probably won't have any parts just laying around but they'll fix it somehow. Most historic brands that are still around today will gladly try to keep their old watches running but Seiko doesn't seem to bother with it.
That's sort of why as much as I love Seiko and think they have some great vintage models I hesitate to buy anything besides quartz because the quartz watches at least last forever without service.
So I'm looking for a cheap watch that doesn't look absolutely shit and isn't too "formal" looking. Would this be an ok pick? http://www.amazon.co.uk/Seiko-Automatic-Analogue-Display-SNK809K2/dp/B002SSUQFG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1449839646&sr=8-1&keywords=seiko+5
>>51828442
yes
>>51828442
Do you expect your watch to be accurate after a month of use? If so, no. Great pick otherwise.
>>51828471
If it lasts a few months accurate to few minutes i'm ok
>>51828471
Oh and I live in a country which uses summer time so I will be checking it every 6 months atleast.
>>51828243
Seiko updates their movements every once in a while even if the underlying principle is the same. I spent months looking for basic replacement parts to use in a 6106, which was extremely common at one point. I hear finding components for the 7002 is getting more and more difficult. And if something on my 44A breaks (which it won't, touch wood), I might have to buy a whole new 44KS and cannibalize the parts.
Lack of spare parts notwithstanding, old Seikos are pretty comfy.
>>51828393
Someone told me quartz can lose accuracy after a decade or whatever but mechanicals can obviously be regulated whenever.
>>51828501
Get a post-2013 seiko 5 and expect around 2-3 minute deviation per month, assuming you wear the watch often. Be aware that older seiko 5s might be less accurate than that.
>>51828471
my 5 gains about 2 seconds a day. I wouldn't say that's bad for 60-100$
>>51828442
I just saw this today irl on a classmates wrist, on a black milanese. It looks very good.
>>51828549
That's false. Both need to be serviced, but the mechanical need to be fully disassembled, checked, and fixed as needed, while the quartz merely needs to be recalibrated. Of course, that doesn't account for bad models like the accutron II or the precisionist from bulova which go out of whack after a few months of use (it's not viable to recalibrate a watch that often!)
>>51828549
Good quartz movements have trimmers which let you regulate the movement also. My KQ got regulated down to like +1 second every month or so. It's actually now more accurate than my twin quartz because those are a bitch to regulate. Each crystal has its own trimmer and the relationship between the two is really complicated so they can become wildly inaccurate if you try to mess with the regulation.
>>51828546
7002 parts are getting slightly scarce, but finding parts and or complete movements for mine is really not an issue.
Though my 7002 >>51827884 is an interesting lot, the movement is 100% original ,case&caseback,bezel are the same ones that it left the factory with and the seals were replaced. Dial, hands and insert are not, but i think it contributes to the unique look of it.
>>51828582
You also have to get a bit lucky. 2s is good, you can also get within 1s with even more luck. Many Seiko 5 gain around 5s/d or so for the newer models. Whether that's good enough for you will depend on your requirements. A $10 quartz is accurate within 30s/m rated, which is around 10s/m in practice, by comparison. Of course, then you don't get something with a pleasing movement to look at.
>>51828613
Speaking of twin quartz, are you aware of how the two crystals interact to keep more accurate time? It's very interesting. http://forums.watchuseek.com/f9/thermocompensation-methods-movements-2087.html is an excellent post on methods of thermocompensation, well worth a read.
>>51827755
>buying for the brand
Stop being a child. Or a man child, because there are certainly enough men who just know "muhRolex"
People who know watches respect the GS line. Fact. Maybe they rather Swiss for notoriety, but they know Seiko is just as good, if not better than most Swiss brands.
>>51828546
>>51828393
All fair points, for mechanical watches. Obviously I have no ground here, but I just find it hard to believe something like the Spring Drive will just become unserviceable. Even with casual changes over time.
But, I'm not going to live in fear and avoid buying one of the most interesting movements out there. I'd rather enjoy it.
Not sure who it was, but the fact that the Swiss repair old watches with more ease than the Japs is a good point, sadly not one you hear as much as muh brand.
>>51828593
Well you could disassemble check and fix a quartz movement too, they just don't need it as often because there's fewer moving parts and they tend to keep running even when they're worn down past what would seize up most mechanical movements. A sealed crystal and a circuit plus a motor are more durable than a really delicate finely machined balance wheel plus all the other tiny parts in a mechanical watch, but both will break down eventually.
>>51828700
I've read it a bit but yeah its pretty complicated. I also had no idea they had more than one completely different thermocompensation method, they sure did a whole lot of really fast development during the relatively short time that quartz movements were still relevant. It's too bad quartz fell out of favor, Seiko did a whole lot of neat stuff and so did Omega for a while and the movement Rolex put in their Oysterquartz is absolutely beautiful and apparently it's really good too.
>>51828759
I'm sad too, the last major innovation in high accuracy quartz was ages ago relatively speaking, radio controlled movements have done to HAQ what quartz did to mechanical watches, which I don't see as a true advancement in portable time keeping since it took the clock out of the watch.
>>51828631
you could get a high beat quartz with a little extra money. Just pull the crown when not wearing it the battery wouldn't run down too quickly.
there are all kinds of things to nitpick about just about any wristwatch, but I like to think that if I obsessed about time I would go insane, but I also respect high degrees of accuracy.
>>51827851
Timex weekender chrono looks cool
>>51826878
Unlike you, I've actually compared them up close. No one was talking about aesthetics either, purely manufacturing quality and the amount or work necessary to achieve the level of dial/case/bracelet finishing.
Also, please give me a list of technical reasons that the ETA ebauche movements installed in Swatch watches branded with the "Omega" aspirational marketing brand is superior to a 6r15c that doesn't amount to "muh Swiss"
>>51827045
That's because you are totally ignorant of horology and your interest in watches is driven by aspirational social status totem marketing.
>>51828858
What the hell is the point of an accurate watch if you stop it every night?
>>51828712
This.
The Spring Drive is a big deal. Seiko a shit if they fuck them over. It's not a random midrange mechanical. These are GS' and Credors.
![91HyJTWnFAL._UY879_[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/hw0ZUiI.jpg "91HyJTWnFAL._UY879_[1].jpg")
Can anyone tell me if this is any good? Casio EF503D Edifice. Really love the look and, from what I know, the Casio quartz movements aren't too bad. Thoughts?
>>51827185
Yup, that's why the Swiss are terrified of allowing Seiko to compete in any watchmaking competitions and specifically rig them to exclude Seiko.
>>51827185
>shilling for the ghastly Explorer II
Opinion disregarded.
>>51828712
Yeah, the serviceability is probably one of the reasons why I'm likely going to buy something Swiss when I want to go high-end (ie, over $5,000). I really don't give two fucks about the branding, in fact my dilemma is that I find a lot of the current brand whoring from these luxury conglomerates to be absolutely disgraceful and off-putting. Swatch and Louis Vuitton (they own Zenith and a bunch of other shit) are bad, but I think Richemont takes the fuckery prize. When you come to think of it, Rolex and Patek are the only companies that still have a shred of class.
Just makes me want to get a mid-range nothing brand like an Oris or a Stowa sometimes. Like "yeah I was going to spend all this money but you guys are cunts, so fuck you".
>>51828892
The 8500 may be ETA ebauche but it has two barrels and a longer power reserve and a coaxial escapement and it's very nicely finished, the 6R has a lower beatrate and pretty nice but very basic finishing and has no special features. The Aqua Terra is better than a watch that is much cheaper, no huge goddamn surprise there. You're being retarded if you claim that paying 8 times as much gets you absolutely nothing.
If you want a fair comparison then compare the AT to a GS or a Brightz to some Swatch in its own range but you've had a bit too much maple syrup to drink if you're going to tell me that the Brightz is the same as an Omega. They're very close maybe, because all god damn watches are pretty similar when it comes down to it and when you're comparing watches in price ranges that are way past the point of diminishing returns.
>>51829002
Not him, I keep hearing this.
Care to explain these competitions/what the Swiss did?
>>51827408
Do you notice how neither Nomos nor Rolex are owned by Richemont, Swatch, or LVMH? And that Nomos isn't Swiss? And that Rolex doesn't make any $2500 watches?
>>51828980
Looks like absolute dogshit, but if that's what you want, go for it my friend :)
>>51828980
>tackymeter
>>51828809
I was so disappointed when I opened my friend's radio-controlled Casio.
>0 jewels
>Unadjusted
>No trimmer in site
It's just dogshit that uses an atomic clock somewhere else to cover up for its own inadequacy.
>>51829090
Slavas also have twin barrels.
>>51829092
Starting around the 19th century or so, observatories in Switzerland started hosting chronometer competitions where watchmakers would bring their very best watches to see who could make the most accurate watch. In the 1960s Seiko started to compete and at first did badly but within just a few years started getting very very close to winning and at the same time there was a big race going to see who could bring the first quartz movement which would absolutely demolish all the competition. The Swiss panicked at the thought of losing to Seiko so they permanently canceled the contests.
A few years ago they started a new competition to revive the tradition but it's restricted to mechanicals only and they only allow watches which have been manufactured in Europe, which makes the competition a big fucking joke.
Omega won 8 of the contests, the most of any watchmaker. That's why they started the Constellation line to commemorate their wins and why every Constellation has a medallion on the back with the Geneva observatory and 8 stars.
>>51828809
>more accurate time that can ever feasibly be conceived is not a true advancement in TIME KEEPING
>i.e. in KEEPING the TIME
>because watches 60 to 400x less accurate existed before
??????????
>>>/fa/
>>51829193
But radio watches don't keep the time. An atomic clock somewhere keeps the time and then broadcasts a signal which tells the radio watch what time to display. Without the external influence of a radio signal the watch is just a plain ordinary quartz watch. It's like saying my mechanical watch is accurate to 0 second per year because every morning I go to time.gov and reset my watch to match the time on the website.
What is the big deal with "hacking" ?
Why does everyone want it for their movements?
The non hacking movements personally appeal to me more. Seems sexier.
>>51829231
nigger/10
>>51829229
Quartz, nigga, lrn2read. You're right that radio watches a shit.
>>51829242
Because some people want to accurately sync up their watches.
>>51829242
oh I don't know precision maybe?
>>51829130
but there would be no point to have a hyperaccurate movement in a radio controlled watch.
>>51829090
My point wasn't really even about the Omega AT itself, but rather that none of the Swiss watches cheaper than an Omega AT have dial/case/bracelet finishing even close to comparable with a Seiko Brightz.
Also, movement aside the dial/case/bracelet finishing actually are comparable as I have literally compared them up close in person. You may like the design/aesthetics/movement much better in the Omega AT, but that isn't what I was talking about, and you certainly will not get a comparable dial/case/bracelet/movement quality combo from "mid-level" Swiss brands.
>>51829242
>The non hacking movements personally appeal to me more. Seems sexier.
What the hell does that mean?
>>51829242
>The non hacking movements personally appeal to me more. Seems sexier.
what
Reasonable size atomic watches when?
>>51829320
a few years
>>51829242
>sexier
you one of them watch fuckers?
>>51829242
How does the presence or absence of hacking impact the "sexiness" of a watch? What does that even mean, you autist?
>>51829182
>damage_control.png
Wow, how could a whole industry as so faggy.
Well, thanks for the info.
>>51829242
Is having a hacking lever attached to your movement somehow akin to having a dick attached to your girlfriend?
>>51829182
I would laugh so hard if Seiko bought some defunct European brand, brought in a descendent of the founder to act as a figurehead, started making nippu nongu designed movements in Switzerland and then proceed to slap everyone's shit anyways.
>o herro errynyan, we aru here to enta most honorabrr contestu onry for uropean manufakturu rike us
>>51829078
Well that's the thing, there's a reason to hate everyone. Pick your poison.
Unless you are in the +15000 range and know what you're doing.
>>51829099
:(
I'm looking for something that would look good on a NATO band. Any suggestions then?
>>51829497
>if Seiko bought some defunct European brand
Never 4get how close Seiko came to buying up Omega when they were circling the drain and only being sustained by repeated government bailouts. Too bad Swatch came along instead, honestly I think Seiko would've done a better job keeping Omega's legacy alive than Swatch has.
>>51829527
S A R B
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>>51829527
Seiko 5.
>>51829558
>SARB
>would look good on a NATO
um
>>51829557
Seiko owning omega would have been interesting to say the least. Would probably be something like audi owning lamborghini. Let the italians do the styling & let the germans make sure it won't burst into flames if you go too fast.
>>51829497
I kek'd hard at this.
>>51829557
Anyone would have been better than Swatch
>>51829572
But they look childish to me. Is that just because I'm seeing them in a photo without it being on someone?
>>51829616
Depends what you get, I don't like a few of the styles too.
I have an SNKL43 as on of my beaters. LITTLE small, and I emphasise little. I've been complimented on it on more than one occasion. It looks sharp for the price, not childish at all.
>Weakened by the severe monetary crisis and recession of 1975 to 1980, SSIH was bailed out by the banks in 1981. During this period, Seiko expressed interest in acquiring Omega, but nothing came out of the talks.
>Switzerland's other watch making giantAllgemeine Schweizerische Uhrenindustrie AG(ASUAG- supplier of a large range of Swiss movements and watch assemblers) was in economic difficulty. It was the principal manufacturer ofÉbauche(unfinished movements) and owner, through their sub-holding companyGeneral Watch Co(GWC), of various other Swiss watch brands includingLongines,Rado,Certina, Hamilton Watch andMido.
>After drastic financial restructuring, theR&Ddepartments of ASUAG and SSIH merged production operations at theETAcomplex in Granges. The two companies completely merged forming ASUAG-SSIH, a holding company, in 1983.
>Two years later this holding company was taken over by a group of private investors led by Nicolas Hayek. Renamed BAKA,Société de Microélectronique et d'Horlogerie, this new group over the next decade proceeded to become one of the top watch producers in the world.[11]In 1998 it became the Swatch Group, which now manufactures Omega and other brands such asBlancpain,Swatch, andBreguet.
>Omega's brand experienced a resurgence with advertisement that focused on product placement strategies, such as in theJames Bond 007films; the character had previously worn aRolex Submarinerbut switched to theOmega SeamasterwithGoldenEye(1995) and has stayed with the latter ever since. Omega also adopted many elements of Rolex's business model (i.e. higher pricing, tighter controls of dealer pricing, increasing advertising, etc.) which was successful in increasing Omega's market share and name recognition to become more of a direct competitor to Rolex.
RIP Omega, 1848-1983
>>51829704
Fact.
I've been watching 60s SeamanMasters on eBay. Gonna be my next buy. I just don't understand how anyone can like the newer ones more than the old.
>>51829557
If Seiko had bought Omega, there's a very good chance we wouldn't have the current environment of marketing fuckery, or at least a substantially reduced version of it. Seiko have shown time and time again that they're kind of shitty marketers but very good watchmakers. We'd be getting a lot more good product and a lot less "muh aspirations" with those humble Japs heading things. And yes, as outsiders they would have probably been more sensitive to Omega's legacy since they'd obviously be more wary of treading on it and wrecking the brand. As an example, look at how well Volvo is being treated under Chinese ownership vs. when Ford was running the show.
Is the SNQ107P1 dogshit?
>>51829557
>Never 4get how close Seiko came to buying up Omega
Pic related, a "what would have happened" artists depiction of the presidents of Seiko Corp. and Omega SA during the acquisition ceremony.
>>51829818
I like to think that Seiko respects the Swiss for giving them good competition, unlike Citizen. It would be more like pic related in reverse.
>>51829704
>Renamed BAKA
>>51829883
Thank hiroshima nagasaki's filters.
>>51829737
The blue striped dial on the new aqua terras is super sexy, just saiyan.
>>51829704
>Renamed BAKA
>BAKA
kek
How oddly appropriate
>>51829963
I agree but I also think the AT is pretty much the only good Omega still in production besides the speedmasters which have been around since before Swatch. Shit like the Globemaster makes me want to vomit.
>>51826215
I don't know if it's just me, but I personally hate mesh straps
y/n?
>>51830694
>N
I fucking hate date windows that show more than one date
>>51830797
yeah that's pretty stupid, why do they do it?
>>51830471
>No, stick it on a Black Mesh
The real one has a black mesh strap
>>51823349
>not without my handbag reference
10/10
very impressive
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIvQZm8K-yU
>>51830920
I think it can look good, such as with the snq131, as the curvature of the day wheel looks nicer than a single number in my opinion. What I don't really like about the snq135p1's is that the numbers flow under the time indicators, but the visible strip is actually larger than the indicators, which doesn't look too good. However, the rest of the watch is pretty nice in my opinion, I especially have a preference for white dials, which are harder to find than I expected.
>>51830797
What about pic related?
So here I am in Columbus...
>>51831580
please, don't go on, that picture is sad
>>51831580
Good luck on your travels, freund!
Where to next?
I'm pressed impressed by how good this thing is. I always thought timex was garbage, but this thing is great. The chrono works well. All the hands line up with the indices and indiglo is much more useful than even the strongest lume considering you don't have to charge it.
Even the strap isn't that bad considering its only 50 bucks; it's begging to be put on a NATO though.
Worth the 50 bucks
>>51831715
here till 23rd and jersey after christmas...
>>51831658
thank you based anon
true, I am usually in a better hotel.
>>51831766
I only said sad because I know from experience. Multiple years with 100+ nights in hotels. After a while business travel starts to suck
>>51831741
Diameter?
Is it over 45mm?
There's no way in hell id but such a big watch anon.
I think it's 42 or 41. Lug width is 20mm
>>51831991
>tfw had this job since june and 100+ nights in hotels already
granted 90 of those nights are one hotel
>>51832057
just 40 mm
>>51832093
>>51831741
Fuck my grammar, being sick + autocorrect isn't the best combination.
>>51828980
If you don't need the 60 min Chrono then get the timex.
Otherwise Seiko has quartz chronographs at the same price as that Casio that are better looking. Casio's flight chronographs with slide rule bezels are also nice and again, cost the same.
If you're getting a Chronograph for the looks and not the functionality though, I would say save up for a Strela. Gorgeous chronographs for only around a grand. If you do care about functionality then a Casio digital is unbeatable and cheap as fuck.
>>51831741
I can confirm what this anon is saying...this model of Timex is pretty good. You can catch it on sale at Amazon or other places for $35 or so if you're patient enough.
>>51833049
Are you that guy that posted yours yesterday?
Have you "fixed" your chrono hands yet? Just pull the crown out all the way and use the top pusher to move the hand to 12.
Has Citizen any watch equivalent to Seiko's SARB017 (mid end with classy look)?
My babies
>>51833173
Please don't air your dirty laundry in public.
>>51833219
I cleaned it right after I took that actually. It's not like I have a watch showcase specifically for these threads.
>>51833011
> Seiko has quartz chronographs at the same price as that Casio that are better looking
Such as...
Almost all Seiko chronographs are $100+
>>51833304
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00G4EJRNM/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=1F5N1CKS9FON5&coliid=I1WUR6D0A0ZS1W
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000M02XZ8/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_S_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=1F5N1CKS9FON5&coliid=I28Q2J6BRA7BJC
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00B7FXUZY/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=1F5N1CKS9FON5&coliid=I2B30OAFNYF8B6
>>51833287
Put them back where they belong: UP your dog's anus.
>>51833396
I hate dogs
>>51833431
Yet you love their dungs.
>>51833443
Dung is poop not anus
>>51833584
Wow u r of smert ug!
>>51833106
No, I am. And I believe you may have misunderstood my problem.The hand already fell at 12 o'clock, but it wan't exactly straight up and down. This is sometimes fixed by manually moving around using the pushers but it ends up getting again sometimes when you use the chronograph function.
>>51833106
No I am not that guy. I know how to use the fucking thing
>>51833767
Interesting
Wanna make a webm?
>>51825550
>Watches
>Naming a thread /likethis/
>Posting a pic with the Reddit robot
This entire thread is Reddit tier cancer
I am planing to get a SARB035 (pic related) or anything equivalent or better.
Any suggestions?
Price range < 400
>>51834166
OP is just a fag, so nothing new there.
>>51834134
I can't tell if your being sarcastic or not.
>>51834166
>I'm an oldfag, I've been there all hour! XDD
>>>/tumblr/
I just saw this watch and i'm in love.
>>51834203
What's hard about this? Make a webm of you using the chronograph and resetting it
Gee, sorry for trying to help faggot
>>51834414
>Getting legitimately upset over someone being better than you
>>51833172
The closest I can think of is the Grand Classic Automatic NB0040, but that's around $1000. I think you'll have to look for microbrands that use the Miyota 9015 instead.
>>51834753
>$1000 for a 9015 with a little decoration
>Looks like a cheaper SARX
Why is Citizen so bad at making their watches look decent?
>>51834180
Equivalent? It's a hard one to match at that price. Amazon has a Tissot Visodate for sale at $360, that's as close as I can think of.
http://www.amazon.com/Tissot-T0654301605100-Analog-Display-Automatic/dp/B007WQMRMY
The SARB035 is a fine choice.
>>51834814
Actually I just checked prices and it turns out anon was lying, they're like $600. Still seems like a ripoff.
>>51834827
That's the dogshit ugly one, the much nicer heritage Thick-o-date is $418
http://www.amazon.com/Tissot-Heritage-Visodate-Watch-T019-430-16-051-01/dp/B0041Q44UG/ref=pd_sim_sbs_241_2?ie=UTF8&dpID=418nY0Bl72L&dpSrc=sims&preST=_AC_UL160_SR117%2C160_&refRID=1N3SH9SVS3T03CCV0MRV
>>51834457
Chill out man, it's not even happening anymore.
>>51834814
Maybe that's why they sell so many movements- they figure someone else can handle design.
>>51834830
$995 is MSRP for it. MSRP for a SARB 017 is 52500 yen, or around $433. I didn't want to mention discounts as they are so variable.
>>51834830
They go on ebay for less than $500 all the time, I saw an open box one a few weeks ago for only $350. at that price point they're pretty fucking nice I'd say.
>>51834878
Speaking of which, that Citizen reminds me a bit of the Lew and Huey Cerberus which is in fact a much better use of the 9015 by a microbrand and it's $500.
>>51834856
Get one fucking drop of water on that thing and it's $418 down the drain
>>51834918
Well at any price point I would say a SARX or Cerberus both look a bit similar but better. The 6R15 and 9015 are pretty close in quality too aside from the beatrate.
>>51834936
If I didn't already have a memesplorer I'd grab that orange & blue cerberus. The bombe lugs are nice too.
>>51834953
>water resistant 30m
>>51834953
3bar for a dress watch isn't bad.
>>51834953
Excuse me but a poorly sealed press-fit caseback with minimal water resistance is a Heritage feature, hence it is part of the Heritage line. It's a feature unique to high quality SWISS MADE Swatch timepieces, if you are interested in water resistance then perhaps you should consider an OMEGA SEAMASTER as seen in JAMES BOND: SPECTRE IN THEATERS NOW.
>>51831227
pls respond.
So because Seiko refuses to give their watches proper model names that aren't horrible meaningless strings of letters and numbers, and because most popular Seiko divers already have nicknames, I think we should come up with names for popular SAR* models. Any suggestions?
SARB033/035 - I nominate S A R B or memesarb
SARB065 - already called Cocktail Time
SARB017 - already called Alpinist/Owl Penis
SARX013/015/017 - ???
SDGM001/003 - I nominate AUTOMATIC or the Fat Canadian Special or the Tim Horton
SARG009/012 - ???
SARG005/007 - ???
SKX007 - I guess calling it 007 is sort of a nickname but it deserves something better considering it's the most popular of all the memeseikos
SNK803/805/807/809 - ???
>>51825550
I just got my 2nd Poljot today, it is the one with Roman numerals. The seller included a 10 ruble coin in the package, so I guess I got a ~14 cents instant rebate.
Allright I just ordered the SGDM brightz with the black dial.
Did I fall for the meme?
I originally wanted to get a jazzmaster day date but the crownguard? triggered me. It looks out of place.
Also, the SDGM uses japanese steel folded a 1000 times.
Will post pics once it gets here.
>>51834983
>>51834987
>pressed caseback on a fucking $400-$500
There's literally no excuse for this shit
>>51835020
Thank you mountainjew, you are truly my greatest ally
>>51835202
I think you fucked up, the Jizzmaster is absolutely beautiful. I also think the SARX015 and SARB033 are both better looking than the SDGM. I guess at least with the one you picked you get Diashield which none of the other options have plus you get
>OMG ALMOST GRAND SEIKO QUALITY FINISHING TOTALLY BLOWS AN AQUA TERRA OUT OF THE WATER
according to one militant brainwashed anon.
>>51835185
Why was the alpinist called the owl penis again?
>>51835228
3 bar is fine for a dress watch, and it meets that requirement with a pressed caseback. If Tissot casebacks have been failing at a rate greater than other companies, please let us know.
>>51835252
owlpenis kind of sounds like alpinist and the cathedral hands are sort of vaguely phallic, although I personally don't really know what an owl's penis looks like.
>>51835247
>OMG ALMOST GRAND SEIKO QUALITY FINISHING TOTALLY BLOWS AN AQUA TERRA OUT OF THE WATER
It's very fucking close to the quality for a fraction of the price. You really have to have some thick mountain jew cock up your ass to claim otherwise.
>>51835278
It's well known that the visodate has a very big problem with it's caseback.
Check WUS. Water easily seeps in because it's just not sealed properly.
>>51835247
I really love the dial anon but I hate this part.
It looks so stupid.
>>51835278
>3 bar is fine for a dress watch
No it fucking isn't. You don't have to have a screw down crown, but a screwed case back with a gasket is a minimum for any dress watch.
If my cheap ass timex can do it fucking Tissot can.
>>51835278
It's "fine" but it's pretty weak compared to what's standard in a modern watch and I cannot fathom a single reason why they would choose a press-fit caseback over a standard screwed caseback. Press-fits fell out of favor decades ago. It's really a mystery to me, I doubt it's even a cost-cutting thing because how would it be any cheaper?
How come it seems like no one makes simple, good quality quartz watches anymore? Unlike most people these days, I actually use my watch to tell the time. 99% of watches are mechanical with a maximum 48 hour power reserve and they cost $400+.
Seiko makes like 2 watches that fit my criteria and Citizen makes 0.5. Everything else is made in China and breaks after 2 months. My family members have been wearing the same quartz watches since the 80s.
>>51835278
>tfw even my chink copy had a screwed in case back
>>51835349
Find an 80s seiko king quartz then. Pretty cheap nowadays and they won't break if you breathe on them wrong.
>>51835349
Timex and Casio.
Get one of the "expensive" (~$50) expedition models that are quiet and it'll last you years.
>>51835297
I'm not coming up with anything- I tried "Tissot visodate caseback" and failed, water, flooded. What should I search for.
>>51835316
3 bar is fucking well fine for a dress watch. This is ridiculous. What isn't fine is the retarded thickness of the Visodate.
>>51835332
It probably is cost-related. There are a lot of watches with press-fits in that price range, though there are a bunch of screw backs as well.
>>51835349
Microbrands still do.
>>51835298
I agree that it looks pretty funny but I guess I just don't mind it that much. I was choosing between that watch and a SARX pretty recently and went for the SARX but I just am not a fan of the SDGM at all.
>>51835283
Well who's fucking cock do you have shoved up your ass if you're so in denial that other brands besides Seiko make good watches too? Any watch that retails for hundreds of dollars is going to hopefully be "pretty close" to a watch that costs thousands. You may want to read about diminishing returns.
And it's not like Seiko is making a fucking GS level watch and selling it at a loss for a fraction of the price of a GS just for the hell of it. And maybe Seiko isn't putting their watches in James Bond movies (at least they haven't in a few years) but they advertise their damn watches too and stratify their products into different price ranges and everything else because that's what every single company ever in any industry does.
>>51829527
Orient Defender, too bad you missed the black Friday sales, but it's still not an expensive watch regardless
>>51835354
Hopefully properly aligned and machined threads. Screwbacks are superior, but they have to be made properly.
>>51835414
>Not the Orient Flieger
>>51835419
I've removed it a bunch of times and the threads fit and screw great. Honestly that thing is really fucking worth the 10 bucks I paid for it.
Uses a Seiko movement too.
>>51835349
>How come it seems like no one makes simple, good quality quartz watches anymore?
Because all the simple good quality quartz watches they made decades ago are still running just fine thank you so there's no need to buy new ones. Just buy an old quartz watch if that's what you want.
>>51835397
What I'm saying is that the AT has very, very little over the SARX/SARB, and that small difference really isn't worth the thousands of dollars to a vast majority of people.
I love Omega, but the swatch markup is a real thing and a lot of their watches just aren't fucking worth it.
This is a direct comparison here, there's no other brands to deny.
>>51835468
Not the other guy, but are you talking about fit and finish or overall? The Aqua Terra has a big advantage in that it has an antimagnetic movement. On WUS, watch repairers are reporting more watches coming into service being magnetized. SINN reports that
>In a study of 1000 watches by SINN's customer service department, nearly 60% of the watches received were magnetized, and half of these (30%) had severe defects caused by magnetic fields.
So I think we'll see antimagnetic properties as more important as watches face stronger fields more often (iPad covers, laptop lids, speakers in theatre seats, etc). I'm sure Seiko is planning for this.
