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Did I become victim of I2P Shills on /g/?
>install it
>give it 30 min to find peers etc
>literally every site is either slow as balls (takes 5 minutes to load) or gives "Website Unreachable"
>even their developer forum (zzz.i2p) is unreachable
Who would recommend this over TOR?
>>51803053
nobody uses it because there's nothing on i2p worth using it for
same reason tor is garbage too
>>51803090
So what is not shit? I heard that i2p is better.
>>51803090
>implying there aren't tons of private irc channels from sceners on there
>>51803103
freenet is much faster than both of them
>>51803122
is it as anonymous as i2p? I really only care about anonimity
>>51803135
yeah, its full anon, basically the best place for cp these days
>>51803108
>implying anybody gives a shit
>>51803103
they're all garbage and you're not going to find anything interesting
if you just want an alternative internet without the anonymity, ipfs is actually working on solving real problems and not just "how do i buy drugs and distribute cp without getting caught", but it's still pretty immature
>>51803122
How about people? Are there a lot of people?
>>51803149
the whole point of tor/i2p/freenet is anonimity you retard. why would you come here suggesting something that is the exact opposite
>>51803150
a lot, i dont have any problems downloading things, but i have my node online 24/7
>>51803174
My ISP firewalls everything ... Will IT work on VPN? It works different than tor, right?
>>51803198
you cant browse normal web with freenet, only freenet sites and most of these are pure cp sites, if ur not interested dont go there
>>51803214
this. freenet is for disgusting CPers
>>51803214
So TOR is better for content but not for security? Also i2p hasn't got search?
>>51803249
tor is not better for anon content like cp, but you can browse normal web anonymous. i2p is just a retarded, featureless freenet fork and just like freenet, you cant browse normal web with it
>>51803147
Thank you FBI. I'll get right on it.
Any links?
why does freenet asks for me to connect to friends? and what is the downside for me to connect to random users?
>>51803237
>I've used freenet before, and never came across any CP. The only thing I did find was a site that was rather critical of Lena Dunham.
>>51803269
>you cant browse normal web with it
Not that you'd want to, but this is a straight up lie.
>>51803372
its not, post a screenshot of you browsing google.com over i2p
>>51803365
who are you quoting?
>>51803383
I think you can configure it to do that.
>>51803383
>>51803383
>>51803421
>>51803431
It's configured to do that by default.
My outbound IP is 193.150.121.66 which resolves to i2p-outproxy01.privacysolutions.no.
i2p > tor > freenet
>>51803431
so how are speeds? tried to download any bigger files?
>>51803372
I once said this and lots of retards said me that I couldnt lol
>>51803464
It's comparable to dial up I guess. Not fast but enough for minimal stuff. I won't try to torrent
>>51803464
Really slow, Tor is better in that aspect
>>51803483
>>51803491
with freenet im able to download about 1GB every day, so its much better, but on the other hand no clearnet. any recommendations for pizza sites over i2p?
>>51803511
What's a pizza site m8
>>51803511
Not on 4chan mate. Any good for us on i2p?
>>51803551
Fuck autocorrect. I meant good forums
>>51803539
site where you can order fresh young pizza
>>51803445
>>51803431
>193.150.121.66
>its a tor node
so that means it vulnerable to the same things that tor is, right? lel, here goes you anonymity retards
freenet > everything else
>>51803511
freenet is compromised. a sybil attack was used to bust a guy specifically using freenet. How they only managed to bust 1 person I don't know, but everyone is saying that open net mode is insecure.
and of course, nobody fucking uses dark net mode.
>>51803692
Duh, you lose anonimity when you go into clearnet, that wasn't the point
>>51803692
fucking retard can't read.
http://www.thedickinsonpress.com/news/north-dakota/3885239-predators-police-online-struggle
>The undercover operation resulted in the arrest of former UND police officer Paul Bradley Meagher, 42, who prosecutors say had more than 100,000 images and videos of child porn on his computers, according to court papers.
>>51803703
most of tor nodes are owned by NSA, so using i2p for clearnet is not anonymous anymore
>>51803721
>so using i2p for clearnet is not anonymous anymore
nobody said it was
in fact the first reply was "not that you'd want to, but..."
>>51803719
there was a vires spread over freenet, basically a exe file with unicode name, if you had it in exlorer folder its extension was .jpg, then you try to open it and you are doomed, not freenets fault. with tor and i2p, just connecting to network makes you visible for all agencies, and probable there are similar viruses over them too
>>51803776
>there was a vires spread over freenet
What? I saw no mentions of a fucking virus. Are you sure you aren't just making shit up, because that sounds incredibly retarded.
>>51803090
Tell that to the thousands of people buying drugs
>>51803135
No anonymity with freenet. been pwned for ages
>>51803825
So nothing is anonymous.
>>51803806
ive even downloaded it like 2 years ago, and ive fucking opened it, but nothing happened to me yet, thats either because it was fake or the fact that im not from america, that was the point i installed linux
>>51803825
>been pwned for ages
thats not possible, the way freenet works prevent this
>>51803855
>2 years ago
no idea what you're going on about. this attack had nothing to do with a virus. hell, if it was something as dumb as an executable then freenet would be safe.
>>51803053
Use i2p or freenet only if you enjoy hosting other people's child porn.
>>51803890
>the way freenet works prevent this
NOT IN OPEN NET MODE.
>https://wiki.freenetproject.org/Opennet_attacks
> So your opennet peers, as well as your friends, can do correlation attacks and probably find out what you are doing.
Their wiki LITERALLY explains how using opennet leaves you wide open to sybil attacks, which is what they did.
>Opennet is insecure. We have tried to make it as secure as possible, but the basic premise of opennet is inherently less secure than darknet.
And as I said, I doubt anyone actually uses darknet, which involves only connecting to peers you trust.
>>51803950
no one uses darknet because its impossible
>oh im gonna ask my neighbors if they share some cp over freenet so we can became best friend forever
>>51803950
good thing i connect only to russian and brazilian IPs
>>51803997
You have no friends my friend.
>>51803997
that is why freenet is not a solution.
trusting an online person you never met with your life seems stupid imo.
atleast it doesnt have as many holes as i2p though.
https://geti2p.net/en/docs/how/threat-model
>>51804027
>thinking the public ip you connect to makes any difference
>>51804090
So... whats better? I2p or free net?
>>51804090
but how do they know if im the one that is downloading content and not just only a node for other peers? lets say im running freenet for 24/7 but never downloaded anything, miscelaus files will go throu my pc, can i get v& for this?
>Who would recommend this over TOR?
A large percentage of TOR nodes are owned by the NSA. With a reasonable amount of NSA-owned nodes in a connection, they can know who you are talking to.
For example:
[you] <--- [NSA (A)] -- [Anyone] -- [NSA (B)] ---> [server]
Here, the NSA only has two of the nodes, but it is quite obvious that it can know exactly which server you are talking to. It is made worse by the fact that the same tunnel used for inbound traffic is also used for outbound traffic.
On i2p, different tunnels are used for inbound and for outbound traffic, and these tunnels may be changed at any time during the connection.
Strictly speaking, i2p could likely be more trusted with your privacy than TOR, even if it is slow as dogshit.
>>51804158
this info cant be reliable, consider this
-- [Anyone] -- [you] --- [NSA (A)] -- [Anyone] -- [NSA (B)] --- [server]
who will get v&?
>>51803365
i don't know what this is or if it's quoting anything but it did make me burst out laughing legitimately. thanks anon
How DarkNet works? How is it made?
Technically, on Freenet, you're safer with strangers due to the fact that you're not just a small group. Also, I honestly don't get i2p too much
>>51804206
NSA
Any good VPN for I2p?
What can I use to shit post on /int/ without getting banned? (pretending to be another country)
So the tl;dr is
>why bother with anonymity? Every option is busted after 1 second and the NSA reigns supreme and omnipotent
>>51805887
Because you should always try to be as safe as possible
>Google knowing my favorite meal is OK though
>>51806127
To be fair, steak is a common "favorite food"
Also, safe from what? Haxx0rs an shit can be defeated with standard "good practices" thus there is no "need" of anonymity networks, only other threat are gov agencies but they are pretty much gods and deities that can do anything they want and nothing can stop them.
>>51806167
Precisely the gov agencies. Encryption is the solution.
What's your favorite kind of steak?
>>51806587
How does encryption solve anything when the whole road is ridden with wiretaps?
Not to mention the possibility of cryptographic weaknesses introduced at hardware level.
Even if one encrypted the traffic on i2p, freenet or TOR it would be still possible to find who is who thus defeating the purpose
>>51806698
Encrypt the machine's storage drives. That slows down the evidence gathering portion.
But really, governments have far too much power
>>51806964
What if having encrypted files (and not giving the password immediately) result into them throwing the book at you (both figuratively and literally)?
After all, if they can make the "nothing to hide" argument into law then they are set, the Homo Rightangulus will comply immediately or remove all encryption altogether and those that use it either give the password immediately (and probably go to jail) or go to jail with the maximum penalty
>>51803053
Shills, that's who.
>>51803122
The freenet has a fixed upper bound on the network capacity, making it kinda shit; i.e. someone can't just plugin a new HDD and start serving data on that HDD over the network.
>>51807166
wait why would the government literally throw a book at you for having encrypted hard drives
>>51805755
Hola
>>51807230
"Nothing to hide, nothing to fear" made law.
>You have a encrypted drive? You must be hiding something. Give the key immediately
If you give it, they snoop in
If you don't then they can assume you are a terrorist or a traitor of some kind (why would you hide something from the "benevolent" government that keep us safe?), cue jail.
>>51807286
You said they'd LITERALLY throw the book at you, though.
>>51807305
The book on "How to be a good citizen" for you to read in jail, of course.
>>51807235
Nice try Rajeet
>>51803122
>freenet
>fast
Well, you managed to bait a few at least.
>TOR
https://www.torproject.org/docs/faq.html.en#WhyCalledTor
>>51807601
>i cant read
its faster then other two
>>51805887
They aren't busted though, it's just autists on /g/ trying to act smart by parroting rumours. Also, the NSA boogeyman don't give a shit about your CHILD PORNOGRAPHY, unless you're selling it to finance an al qaeda training camp or something.
>>51807744
>NSA don't give a shit about your CHILD PORNOGRAPHY
are you a ms shill? you sound like one
>>51807920
Sorry, I don't even understand what microsoft have got to do with this, or why they'd be interested in damage controlling anything regarding this subject. Are you typing on a keyboard or are you using some sort of assisted typing device where you just mash words at random?
>>51808019
>being this newfag
>>51808062
I see they made you a quote random meme button too, that's cute.
