X220 vs. 2560p
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X220 vs. 2560p
>hp
I seriously hope you guys don't do this.
>>51796421
I just want the pros and cons of getting one or the other.
>>51796481
While you're at it, check out the pros and cons of irregular bowel movements.
>>51796421
it is an elite book
>>51796816
anon pls
>>51796481
2560p:
+ usually cheaper
+ has optical bay that can be used with a caddy to add a second HDD/SSD
+ socketed CPU, you can put in a quad core if you want.
I have one, I'm pretty happy with it
X220:
+ optional IPS screen
+ lighter and thinner
+ better battery life, especially with the 9 cell and/or slice battery options
>>51798269
>Mac
>on a non-Apple machine
>>51798737
>Paying little money
>Having thousands of dollars worth of experience
I see no harm in this.
>hp
>ever
just fuck my computing experience up
I can't get over the ghosting issue on the x220/x230. Other than that they really are pretty excellent machines. Port placement leaves something to be desired on the x230 but it has so much to cram in its forgivable.
>>51798737
senpai, I do this, OS X has some good features that windows or linux could never offer
>>51800260
like what?
>>51800345
xcode and iMessage to message with my friends that dont have the superior tier android devices
and some drivers and software for audio devices
>>51799960
Seriously, this HP meme is going too far. Why would you ever trust the build quality of an HP laptop?
I fell for the thinkpad meme, wish I would have gotten an elitebook, their much better.
>>51800455
I ignored the thinkpad meme and got a dell latitude e6220 instead
have 2560p, its real solid desu and doesn't look autistic like thinkpads
>>51800713
you're right, it looks cheap and weakly built instead :^)
>>51798269
>+ socketed CPU, you can put in a quad core if you want.
How true is this, though? Could you actually put in a 2760QM or something?
Isn't the keyboard and trackpoint way worse than the thinkpad as well or are they actually comparable?
>>51801384
Better than dell and almost like thinkpads. Source: owned a nx9420 for years and worked with a 8740w for some time
>>51801657
Is the trackpoint just not as good?
>>51796235
>buying hp
>>51801829
You can contribute to the echo chamber or you can actually post something informational that will explain the differences.
>>51801857
Honestly I just hate HP. I gt one of those envy macbook clones a year ago and it has the worst fucking trackpad I have ever had. The design of the part makes them all go bad and HP doesn't care at all. Also it seems like every chassis they build in (at least the desktop ones) are utter garbage. At least a Dell is fun to take apart.
Really though all computer companies are foxconn so it doesn't matter
>>51801899
From what I can tell, the X220 is just as good as a 2560P and have some benefits over the X220 like having a socketed CPU, easier to get to the hardware, no ghosting bullshit with the screen supposedly, no funky smells..
oddly enough, people are saying that putting the thinkpad trackpoint cap onto a elitebook makes the elitebooks pointstick very similar to the thinkpad trackpoint so I really don't see the problem with this elitebook unless you just have to have that middle click.
>>51801945
>no funky smells
you keep posting about this but it's not a real thing
>>51802124
thinkfags smell like burned plastic
>>51802124
https://www.google.com/search?q=thinkpad+smell&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
https://www.google.com/search?q=thinkpad+smell&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8#q=thinkpad+rubber+rails+smell
shill pls go
>>51801899
You sure never owned an elitebook. Envy and consumer grade are indeed shit
>>51801700
Trackpoint is really bad on Elitebooks
I own a 2170p and a x200t, x200t's clit mouse is far superior to HP's one.
>>51801384
>Could you actually put in a 2760QM or something?
Yes, although under heavy loads it won't be able to maintain full turbo speed, and will get kinda noisy.
>>51802551
Is it so terrible that you wouldn't want to use it?
>>51802569
Yes; the trackpad is better anyway. The trackpoint is way to sensitive and the only way to adjust it adjusts the trackpad as well.
I don't want to open another thread, so I'll just ask here.
I need a laptop for muh college programming. 4-8GB of RAM would be perfect, at least 2 core processor. Doesn't need dedicated video/big screen. No windows preinstalled.
>>51802640
kill yourself
>>51802640
x200/x201, or x220 if you don't mind paying a bit more.
T410, T420 if you want a 14". s model if you want slimness/mobility at the cost of some cpu power.
2560p/2570p if you want an Elitebook. 8460p/8470p if you want a 14" model, folio 9470m if you want the nicest ultrabook made.
Dell E6410/E6420 if you want to go with their business models.
>>51802666
thanks, nice trips
>>51802653
>muh klub
>>51798269
i like this cpu swap capability
at least hp is moving in the right direction
>>51802640
>>51802682
no faggot go make your own thread
>>51802719
it's just because the HP is thicker and probably has more room. the bigger thinkpads like T420 have socketed processors because they're thicker
>i have no idea and pulled that out of my ass
>>51802719
>at least hp is moving in the right direction
Ayy senpai these models are like two years old now, I can't think of a single new HP laptop that has changeable CPU since haslel was released
>>51802666
i got my kid an X220 with a year of warranty remaining for $210 shipped
-- thing was mint -- seller just wanted to get rid of inventory
>>51802732
m8 fucking WHERE?!?!?
>>51798269
> el kekitan
>>51796235
x220 tablet was better than hp tablet version it was because of the screen quality, pen digitizer was better. Also it used a 1.8" drive while x220 has both mSATA(sata2) and 2.5"(sata3) so I choosed x220 tablet. I'm happy with based thinkpad
>>51802753
what is the appeal of the tablet x220? it has a smaller battery and weaker hinge. how many times do you write on your screen, really?
>>51802753
Admittedly the older HP Elitebook tablets are quite meh but the Revolve series makes me giddy. Will probably pick one up if I can get one for the right price.
>>51802742
ebay m8 -- ~$200-$250 is the going price for this model -- have to sort through the messed up offerings but you find some gems
>>51802773
>weaker hinge?
? it has to pivot in two planes - just take care of your equipment
>smaller battery
you can get larger ones (9cell) if you like
the appeal of the tablet is for people who need to use a tablet
>>51802927
It's barely a tablet, though. It's like a 3.5lb laptop that has a screen with a digitizer in it, that's it. Do you use it to take notes in class?
>only two buttons
I'd say 'dropped' but there was no way in hell I'd even pick that thing up
>>51802952
I rough-sketch technical diagrams and then send them to the art department
I edit pdfs of scientific and technical articles -- the kind of pdfs that tablets don't render easily (or at all) because of the size of the pdf when the edits are post-processed in Adobe Acrobat
The X220T is an actual computer, like the higher-end Surface models, but it's more durable, and doesn't afraid of anything
>>51802719
Nope, they got rid of it on the current generation.
>>51802744
That's Yosemite. Haven't bothered upgrading yet.
>>51802616
2170p?
>>51800363
>xcode
>imessage
>superior android
>software for audio devices
confirmed retard
>>51801700
>>51802551
the trackpoint is shit on everything except thinkpad; because patents
poopy butt
>>51805367
kinky
>>51805752
stop it
>>51805931
can u feel my finger in ur butt
I'm about to pull the trigger on a 2560p unless someone can convince me otherwise.
>>51796481
HP will usually break in a year
>>51798269
>better battery life
I would not be so sue of that, my 6 year old HP laptop has 0% battery wear while my 7 year old thinkpad with 9 cell battery has 70% wear
>>51806096
yeah, HP actually has better tech in their batteries, believe it or not.
>>51799960
>>51796421
>>51800443
>>51800761
>>51801829
>>51801899
>HP notebooks always run hot
This is literally a meme now.
>>51798269
You forgot to mention it runs cooler than x220 although it is 2kg laptop almost
>>51803592
My 15 year old Toshiba laptop had a better trackpoint than the on in my T60p
Too bad Toshiba only orders trash at chinese shit companies and basically doesn't make any hardware
>>51806046
I had an early HP tablet (NR2000 or something) that never ran properly because the processor would become blazing hot after 15 minutes, and then the fan would sound like a Sikorsky was landing after 20 minutes. Imagine trying to use this hot noisy mess for notetaking. It was also "creaky" because the construction wasn't solid. Worst $500 I ever spent on tech. After a year, the gpu burned itself out.
>>51806160
That Toshiba laptop probably cost $2500 to $3000 new.
>no scroll button for trackpoint
How are you supposed to scroll nigga?
>>51796481
One will work
The other is made by HP
>>51806186
So? The thing is that most recent business laptops are better build quality than that old one, and yet have only shitty input devices.
My guess is that they don't expect you to use the trackpoint qall the time and cheap out on it, while in the old laptop it was the only pointing device so they HAD to make it work well
>>51806230
You don't.
>>51806230
>>51807699
duuuudee
is the trackpad actually good? like is it macbook good? pls tell me it is.
Would you pay $210 for
http://www.ebay.com/itm/311501880205
OR
$154 for
http://www.ebay.com/itm/391318592535
>hp
>>51807699
Post more pics of your hands baby
>>51807784
The elitebooks don't have the gimicky force sense stuff that macs do but the 2560p/2570p has one of the nicest touch pads on a windows laptop. That particular model has a smooth glass finish over the top that is so responsive yet smooth to the touch it's unreal. My one 2170p and other ones (8460p, 8570p) use a matte finish which is still nice but not as good as the glass finish.
They all use Synaptics so there are customisable options too. I made the top left corner on mine act like a middle mouse click.
>>51807699
>>51807784
>>51807973
reply to the posts motherfucker i know you're reading this shit
>>51808257
wait so the 2560p and the 2570p have the glass finish but others don't why tf is that?
>>51808262
Sorry senpai had to shower and run to catch the train for work
>>51808257
b-but which is worth it? >>51807784
>>51808299
The only difference is 2nd/3rd gen i5. get the 70p if you want USB3 and HD4000 and get 60p if you don't need those things.
>>51808336
the 3rd gen will be a bit faster and be cooler, lighter, and better battery life though, wouldn't it?
>>51808367
Yeah, I guess so. I don't really consider that much difference between 2nd and 3rd other than better gpu performance and proper usb3 support
>>51808286
Post a pic of your hand against the train window baby
>>51807973
lewd
>>51808723
Sorry I'm at work now have this photo which will probably be flipped the wrong way
>>51807699
What OS is that now?
>>51808950
Windows 7
>>51808962
Ah. Had a feeling. But I only watched the scrolling one, not the other webms or pictures you posted
>>51808795
your product key is showing baby
>>51806230
Go away you retarded normie.
That button is not for scrolling. It's for middle clicking. You don't need to scroll. Just use the keyboard.
>>51806230
>he doesn't use page up/down and home/end
i'm lmaoing at your entire life right now
>>51808795
All the iPhones!
Why do you have so many??
>he doesnt play iphone dominoes
baka desu senpai
>>51810777
post more elitebook webm instead of your disgraceful isuck collection
>>51810777
>>51810777
It's pretty nice that the two-finger scrolling works under Windows. I only wish my thinkpad driver worked like that, two finger scrolling is abysmal under Windows but glorious with ganoo.
>>51810810
Only one of those iPhones work and it's mine anyway, and I recorded those webms on the fly. You're going to have to wait 7 more hours until I'm home again
>>51811033
ARE YOU LOUIS ROSSMAN
>>51806096
literally impossible for a battery to have zero wear.
hp and lenovo use the exact same battery technology.
>>51811725
maybe on a kekpad
>>51811686
I literally had the same thought.
>>51811686
louis rossman probably doesn't waste his time on some dumb website like this.
>>51811686
Yes :^)
Neat channel, I'll have a watch when I'm at home.
>>51812410
![1336784408_110[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/P7V9dQZ.jpg "1336784408_110[1].jpg")
Get the 2760p. It's got the same guts, but it kept the 16:10 ratio for one more generation. Consider the pressure sensitive stylus and touchscreen a bonus if you don't care about it.
>>51810478
He probably fixes them for people. I started out by fixing my neice's iphone the other month, since then by word of mouth I have ended up fixing 3 other iphones for people, pretty easy to do and can source parts easily on ebay/amazon so all and all a nice enjoyable way to make a bit of extra dosh while trying something new.
>>51812586
What do you think of this tablet? How good is it?
>>51812862
Had one. They're great and durable
>>51812862
I had the predecessor (2740p) and it was really good. It was a mistake to sell it.
>>51812410
Now post feet
>>51812095
oh he does.
he said somewhere that he used to look at 4chan a lot more when he was younger, now he only really looks at /g/ every once in a while
>>51812891
Also, does it come with a disc drive? I know those are damn near irrelevant in today's day and age, but I want to give one as a gift.
>>51813004
L-lewd
>>51813231
No it doesn't
>>51813504
Well that sucks. The tablet bit with the pen might make this person get over that though.
Is it worth $220 in your opinion?
>>51813552
Usd I assume? If it's 2540/8gb/ssd then yes. If it isn't then like $20 less
>>51813482
I came
>>51813787
It's an i5 (can't remember which, but I think it's clocked at 2.5GHz) with 6gb ram and an SSD. Guy is asking $215, so I rounded. I have more RAM lying about, so that isn't an issue.
Is there anything like the mSATA port that Thinkpads have for this HP? I'd love to throw in an mSATA SSD and have an extra storage drive on it.
>>51798269
the x220 optical drive can also be replaced with a second hdd with the use of a caddy
>>51814290
Yes most Elitebooks have two mSATA ports, the second one is for WWAN cards though and is electronically incompatible with mSATA ssds unless you feel like soldiering.
it also depends on model, 2760p may support mSATA ssds but I don't know.
>>51796235
x220 hands down
>>51814488
sounds like trail and error this time. oh lawdy
>>51814514
I wouldn't plan on putting an mSATA in anyway, HP uses white lists for mSATA/pcie cards anyway
2760p uses 2.5" bay so you could put a large ssd in anyway, it'll just cost more. It is sata 3 as well.
>>51814628
Ah. Well, shit. I like having two separate drives. Probably gonna buy it anyways
>>51814324
X220 doesn't have an optical drive. Mine doesn't, anyway.
i didn't like hp but with the EliteBooks (before the redesign) i do a exception.
>>51814324
X220 doesn't have an optical drive.
>>51815094
Would you recommend that over a Dell?
>>51814324
>mfw it is inferior to the 2560p in that it doesn't even have an optical drive
TOP FUCKING KEK LOSER
>>51798269
You forgot about the keyboard, mang. The X220 was the last of the X series not having the chicklet keyboard. And even compared with the X230 chicklet keyboard, HP laptop keyboards are still more shallow.
>>51819767
but the x230 keyboard is better than the x220 keyboard specifically because it's an island key an doesn't get mushy and why they copied literally the entire keyboard layout and design from EliteBooks.
>>51815094
>Powered by Manjaro
bumping goat thread about goat hardware
>>51819790
no it's shit
>>51821555
no it's literally not and everyone that actually uses thinkpads for pro work agrees.
220 every day
>>51821602
yeah, kucks usually like to kuck themselves in any way they can so it makes sense you for anon
>>51800443
>Work at a repair shop
>Witness the horror that is hp/compaq
Kill yourself.
>>51821754
EliteBook is the good thing HP ever did.
>>51802616
>tfw I envy that sensitivity (I have a T420)
>>51796235
I've got a work 2560p, an absolute x220 wannabe!
>>51822011
A question about yours then; does tapping it act as a left click? It doesn't on my x200t but does on my 2170p.
>>51822011
>>51822058
the thinkpads can do that but it's honestly very bad. you have to push pretty hard to make it work as a tap to click. it's really not a tap. i'd never use that feature, anyway. the trackpad on the 2560p is so good that I never actually use the trackpoint even though it's pretty good.
>>51796481
>X220
Pros: Meme, three mouse buttons
Cons: Locked BIOS, no 100% working fix therefore no aftermarket PCI cards (broken usb3 lol), meme, chinese, intel AMT botnet (can't fix)
>2560p
Pros: Not locked down, american made, socket CPU, ultrabay-like functionality only T series thinkpads have
Cons: Anti-HP memes made up by morons that bought walmart laptops, intel AMT botnet (can fix by replacing CPU with one without vpro), two mouse buttons
>>51822104
>the thinkpads can do that but it's honestly very bad. you have to push pretty hard to make it work as a tap to click. it's really not a tap.
Oh, okay then. I only have to tap mine as hard as I tap the touchpad to do a left click, which is pretty light and it's configurable too for more/less pressure.
>>51822113
What about the T430? Is it better than an HP?
>>51822795
What do you mean? The HP equivalent to the T430 would be the 8470p. ThinkPads and EliteBooks are both good. EliteBooks go for less because no meme tax. EliteBooks don't have any smells. EliteBooks are constructed better.
With ThinkPads like an X220, you're paying for the lighter and thinner design(even though popping the disk drive out of the 2560p makes it weigh almost the same). The 2560p is otherwise a better machine. Good luck finding an X220 in great shape with the typical 2520m/4GB RAM configuration with a battery that's holding 4+ hours for $150. It's just not happening.
It will if you pick a 2560p for example, though.
>>51823007
I think the fact that you can get the pic in OP for $150 is p ridiculous. Computer prices have gone way, way down. $150 is fucking nothing if we're talking about a full laptop that can handle whatever you throw at it, via performance and physical wear.
Some of the design choices on the ThinkPad are good, and some on the EliteBooks are good. I think that the EliteBooks did it better and are more all-around solid machines but the weight/thickness was too important for people to give up and the thinkpads being .5lb-1lb rocked the boat too much and that's why we have the thinkpad meme we have today.
also all of the muh linux compatibility, that is mostly for the old, old thinkpads like the x60 and shit that nobody even uses anymore. /tpg/ is just a circlejerk at this point.
>>51796235
Why get backlight keyboard when you can have a thinklight?
Seriously guys.
>>51823174
These do have equivalent thinklights. some of the newer ones obviously have backlit keyboards, just as thinkpads do too.
>>51796235
>What's better, underpowered business laptop A or underpowered business laptop B?
I'm sure both would make excellent word processing and 4chan machines
>>51824313
You have literally no clue what you are talking about.
Stop right now before you make yourself look like even more of an idiot.
>>51824313
>underpowered
lol wut these are just as powerful as $600 laptops right now, easily.
>>51824411
Either btfo me with an actual argument or go fuck yourself with your mobile dual core and integrated graphics.
>>51824445
http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Core-i5-5200U-vs-Intel-Core-i5-2520M
5200u came out in january of this year and is in laptops that cost $750 right now. You can buy either of the laptops in the OP with the 2520m for ~$150.
>>51824442
>>51824475
You both realize I was mocking laptops in general and not these particular systems (in comparison to other laptops) right?
>>51824682
>I WAS JUST PRETENDING
>>51824682
Top kek.
Damage control initiated.
>>51824729
>>51824745
Lol I literally stand behind everything I said in my first post in this thread. It's not my fault you can't read.
>>51824682
We realize that you're a dumb faggot, yeah.
>>51812586
2710p master race here, best fucking laptop I've ever owned (other then my XPS 13) would recommend a convertible to anyone who has never used one.
>>51824772
Whether I'm dumb or not is irrelevant. Whichever choice you make, you're going to end up with a glorified machine. Really the shit displays makes it so they're not even that good for that.
>>51824807
some people have to leave the house, anon. we get that you just built your first tower but nobody gives a fuck.
>>51817226
I haven't touch a dell for a long time.but i tell u that
EliteBooks are great and got that premium feeling for the aluminium.(before this laptop i hate HP i don't love it either but now its a bit different) and i notice that nobody said nothing but elitebooks are split resistant too
>>51823174
Only 2170p and folio 9470m have backlit keyboards (and everything 4th gen+), everything older including 2570p, 8570p use that stupid light near the webcam.
>>51826778
>stupid
h-hey
>>51826982
Sorry, I don't like it. On the 60p models it isn't bright enough to light up the keyboard and on the 8560p/8570p it isn't centred with the keyboard so it only illuminates one side.
I have a quad-booted HP 2570p, 500gb SSD ± 1tb SHDD upgrade with a real quad i7. kicks ass senpai
>>51827064
So, you bought an i7 QM to put in your 2570p?
>>51827064
>SHDD
well meme'd b0ss
>>51827023
you're a heretic
>hp
>lenovo
>>>/trash/
13-14" clevo > all others
prove me wrong
>>51828205
you're a faggot so nothing you say is taken seriously because you're considered to be a woman.
I'm gonna jump in this thread and ask what you guys think of asuspro laptops, more specifically this one:
https://www.asus.com/Commercial-Notebooks/ASUSPRO-ESSENTIAL-P2520LJ/specifications/
The i7/8GB/1080p version.
>>51828321
suck a dick
>>51828343
rude as fuck, mate
>>51828352
i only fuck rudely
>>51826465
>split resistant
>aluminum
Nigga they're magnesium and heavy as fuck
>>51822795
I had a T430 before I broke it by trying to open it. It was a nice laptop. Hard as fuck to replace anything other than the RAM though. I liked how the laptop was relatively light and slim. Batteries were straightforward and easy to acquire.
You won't face that issue with the HP ProBooks/Elitebooks but you still have to put up with HP's shit with expensive batteries
>>51829257
>heavy as fuck
but they'll literally never break no matter what you do to it
>>51828260
I choose Louis because he's a fellow Jew.
>>51828321
>5.3 lbs
a metric shitbrick
>>51824790
Do you like the XPS 13? What model did you get?
In general I like the 2560/2570 better, but the screens are terrible. Both are decent thought. I personally chose the HP because it was a lot cheaper and also better (except the fucking screen, not even an ips option!)
