are you still meant to replace your power supply every year?
>>51792913
But why ?
>>51792913
>replace your power supply every year
Why would you do that?
When was this ever a rule?
>>51792942
When 30 shekel 750w units sounded like a good deal.
>>51792942
since ever?
>>51792913
no and you were never meant to
>>51792966
why don't you just clean them?
They last for about a decade if you take good care of them, waranty last for 5 years.
I'm new to pc gaming and just bought parts to build a pc but I'm confused. Where do you apply the thermal paste on the psu to cool it down?
Nah you have to replace the engine oil every 20K miles
>>51793455
just cover anypart that will touch metal and you should be fine. You help the transfer of heat as much as you can to keep your psu cool.
I'm still using the phone that came with my p4 lga775 prebuilt for my i3 4170.
Should I be worried?
>>51792964
this
spent 60€ on a good PSU after my old cheap one gave up on the first year. Its been 6 years with no issue
>>51792913
Im surprised my cheap spaekle psu hasn't given me any problems these six years ive had it. Should probably get to it
>>51793554
By phone I mean psu.
Fuck ,i need a coffee. And food.
>>51793734
sparkle isn't a bad brand comparatively
>>51793765
>milk in your coffee
i bet you use sugar too being such a fucking refined young lady with proper feminine etiquette and BASLKINBWEOFWQEFWFESADA!!!!!!!!!!!111111111ONEone
>>51793765
REMEMBER TO KEEP YOUR PINKY OUT, MY DELICATE FLOWER
>>51792913
>Be me
>be 14
>first computer build of my own
>amd palimino core, nvidia 6800gt, those were the days
>found sweet deal on 650 watt PSU. 16 dorra on e-bay from china.
>Brand "Golden Power"
>not even one pcie power connector or sata ones
>Install in PC.
>works fine.
>later upgrade into penteum 4 machine and upgrade to two 8800gt's.
>works fine
>graduate high school.
>graduation money buys new computer components. AMD phenom 2 950 two core (unlocked to four core), and two GTX 295's.
>Decide for shits and giggles, to still use 'goldie'
>works fine.
>Design spec power draw roughly 650 watts on full load
>had to solder in SATA connectors and PCIE power ports.
>works fine. Getting a little hot. Take top cover off, install bigger fan.
>move into college.
>dorm room is cold.
>start bitcoin mining with the two nvidia cards full out 24/7
>works fine.
>one day, discover computer is shut down when it shouldn't be.
>open it up
>check PSU.
>nodda
>open PSU up.
>single layer pcb board. Traces were 'doped up' with lead solder to make them more powerful.
>all the power traces had been slowly, slowly melting away.
>globs of solder sticking to inside of PSU metal.
>the 12v rail was completely severed.
>Give goldie the funeral a faithful thing like that deserved... as in. jumpered wire over with wire from circuits lab, and bought a 30 dorra 1000 watt PSU on ebay.
>works fine.
>INB4 hyperventilating and 'muh corsair'.
KenTek is just fine fucktards,
>>51793979
>Continued
You see. Most people that buy a consumer PSU have absolutely no idea what goes into them. Fortunately, I'm an electrical engineer, and have been playing with electronics for quite some time. When it comes down to it, at least in terms of power electronics, unless you are concerned with power efficiency to an insane degree, just about everything is the same, with the exception of their sustainable power output.
Let's talk about why...
Its just a switchmode power supply.
Its just a switchmode power supply.
All computer PSU's have ever done, or will ever do is buzz a mosfet really fast into a transformer and monitor the output with a simple feedback loop.
Now, tell me about a 450 watt PSU in a 1 inch by 2 inch by 3 inch package with 6kv of isolation and that is special. Computer PSU's? Its pretty much all fluff.
I have a friend in college with me and we built a super stupid budget bitcoin powerhouse because electricity was free as fuck. We made a linear BJT (bipolar transistor) based 50 percent efficient 2,000 watt twelve volt power supply for the job. For reference, we were running a small rack of radeon cards in a row in a wooden chassis. Worked nice. He kept his window open all through the buffalo NY winter, just a crack. Oh the joys of free electricity.
Point being, you can make a computer PSU with nothing more than a standard timer IC like a NE555 if done cleverly, and some transistors. Its really no big deal.
Now lets look at this another way. You open a corsair PSU, which I have done, and you see a lot of shit and little part. Why?
I tell you why. Because corsair is a bunch of fat mouth breathing nerds with glasses that think that less isn't more, and introduce more failure points into a system where it is not needed to be. No!
Chinese engineer know well that what you need for computer PSU to work as PSU is simple shit. Yes, they do overestimate watts output but fuckit.
>>51792913
>I'm using a 10 year old 600w PSU
>being cuc.ked by expensive power supplies
>mfw people post their AX1200s or similar shit
>>51793006
Last time I cleaned a psu, it somehow fucked the mobo, and the psu must be damaged somehow
>>51793979
>>51794308
You are the reason why Jonnyguru exists.
>>51794473
>Replying to an obvious troll
Don't bother man. It's one anon who tries to derail threads with long, ranting posts full of stupid claims and spelling errors. He's pretty easy to spot.
>>51792964
They were never a good deal.
>>51794473
>>51794535
>>51793979
>>51794308
No troll. I open PC and take picture. Just a moment, you wait.
>>51794308
>50 percent efficient 2,000 watt
wow
you are a savant
>2002 p4 pre-built with perfectly functioning original psu
>>51794814
Yup. Fortunately for my friend, his dorm room had one bank of outlets that was out of phase with the others by 180 degrees because industrial three phase power systems work like that, where the 240 mains gets split up into 120 and 120 and distributed about, so we were able to get 240 volts by powering the supply from the differential between one outlet and the other on the hot sides only.
>>51794720
>>51794535
>>51794473
>>51794308
>>51793979
notroll. just a bored EE that knows bs when he sees bs
>>51794948
So far, you have shown the following:
English is not your first language
You have a computer
You are vaguely familiar with the concept of l33t speak
You do not know how to hold a camera
Are we supposed to be impressed?
R u retarded op? Replace it only if it crashes and burns
$25 after MIR 380w Antec Earthwatts has run every iteration of my main computer since 2006. Just replaced it with a 500w Antec Earthwatts, no reason other than I wanted an 8pin cpu connector, heres to 10 more years.
>>51794948
Hold the fucking phone, is that an Nvidia XFX card? Just how old is that pc?
>>51795282
built it a year ago from random shit i own.
i7 3770
2x gtx285
i use it for browsing 4chan and cad work for EE. works well.
>>51795271
I had completely forgotten they existed. Do you remember when earthwatts and the hyper 212 were the most shilled products on /g/?
>>51792913
my psu is the second oldest thing in my machine
most of my parts are from 2012, hdd's from 2010, psu from 2009, and sound card from 2003
I've got a Corsair 650w PSU made by SeaSonic that's been chugging along like a champ since 2007 or so.
>>51795399
Back when they were cheap.
Now XFX is my go-to, though the rest of /g/ seems to have hiveminded on EVGA.
>>51795399
Last I remember it was Earthwatts and Xigmatek SD963/SD1283, I believe, competing with the 212 which never seems to have stopped being shilled. Then you had to get a Samsung 320gb (single platter!) or 1TB HDD and a MX518 mouse.
>>51795368
Not only is that incredibly inaccurate and lacking a multitude of brands, but it is from reddit.... though that might explain why it is shit in the first place.
>>51795443
The only EVGA's that are really good are the SeaSonic and Super Flower rebadges, gotta be careful which you get
>>51792913
And your thermal paste every week
>>51792913
buy a seasonic s1211 and you wont
>>51792913
As the warranty for good PSUs are like 5 years, I'd say replace every 5+ years.
>>51793840
>>51793860
Stupid fucking food elitism is literally the worst cancer in the world. Hurr you drink your coffe with milk? You eat your steak done x way? You're not a real man xddd.
You should be ashamed for posting such inane shit.
Things I also hate:
>hurr you're holding the fork the wrong way
>muh ketchup or no ketchup on pizza
>waiting for the other fag to get his food before you start eating
whats a really crazy quiet psu?
i dont want to hear my htpc
>>51796217
picoPSU
>>51796274
ya i'm having my doubts that that would be able to power an i5
>>51792966
>since ever?
I've been building/modifying machines since the mid-90's. This has never been a rule. Ever.
>>51792913
YOU REPLACE YOUR POWERSUPPLY EVERY YEAR HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>51796256
headphones?
>>51795439
My 650W G series seasonic crapped out on me after 3 months of use.
One day out of the blue I shut down the PC and realized I can't turn it on unless I leave it for a good hour or flip the backswitch and power button in rapid succession several times until you get the right timing.
Hell sometimes oddly enough, I'd just flip the PSU switch on/off without touching the power button and it just boots up. The power button is not shorted I did a continuity test on it and followed a broad range of procedures outlined in the manual for the motherboard (dissassembled/reassembled inspected for shorts, flashed bios, reset CMOS with jumper, 1 stick of RAM in several slots... the works) before I suspected the PSU.
Problem only occurs after I load the PSU for a while, reset button works fine, the system does not trip when it is up and running. The problem only starts to occur after I shut down.
Hell I wasn't even overclocking or turning it on for extended periods of time. 650W should be more than enough for a GTX980 and 4790 non k on an H97M-e mobo at stock settings and a few peripherals.
I thinks its circuit protection might be misfiring. Sent it back to my local retailer hopefully they don't send me back the unit claiming nothing is wrong with it and seasonic RMA doesn't fuck me over.
I know for certain it is the PSU because I hooked up an old 700W coolermaster from another rig and it worked like a charm without a single hitch after multiple stress tests to replicate the problem.
I don't like the seasonic switch it makes a sparking sound when you flip it slower than usual and doesn't immediatly snap into position, even my older wonky coolermaster 700W snaps into place immediatly without rocking if you apply minimal force.
>>51793455
Cover the fans in thermal paste.
>>51795595
Know any list that does a better job? Or even just some good brands not listed there?
Was thinking of changing out my aging PSU soon.
>>51795368
Holy shit, this is audiophile level delusions about switch mode power supplies.
The only reason to change PSU's would be because of faulty components. And 90% of the time faulty components in PSU's are the capacitors. They're easy to replace, just get some quality caps from DigiKey / Mouser / Farnell / RS-Components with the same values. And if you replace them with quality brands like Nichicon, United/Nippon Chemi-con, Rubycon or Panasonic the PSU can last for decades.
>>51794948
>180 degrees
>3 phase
360 divided by 3 is still 120 right? I don't think you are an EE.
>>51792913
why the fuck
8/10
>>51793799
>sparkle isn't a bad brand comparatively
>comparatively
>doesn't compare it to anything
you are such a fucking dumb cunt holy fuck
>>51796603
He seems to be describing split single phase which is just one phase not not three.
>>51796681
split single phase
>120 / 2 = 60v
three phase
> 120 * 3 = 360v
Dumb fuck
>>51796603
>>51796681
Industrial power systems are complicated things. If you look in an industrial building, you can find phases everywhere.
In this particular instance, I was able to get something close to 240v from between two outlets. Obviously they were out-of-phase. Since I don't have access to the building internals, I can't be sure what exact hookup was used, but polyphase power is polyphase power. The result is the same and who cares.
>>51796745
Right. This is how it works. Carry on.
>>51796745
That's not how it works.
It's a 240V transformer with a center tap for the ground wire. This divides the 240V transformer into two 120V transformers. If you use both sides of the 240V transformer then it provides 240V, if you use only one side of the transformer and the ground wire then it provides 120V.
>>51796297
>htpc
>i5
why?
>>51796857
well i have not gotten any parts yet, but i do want to be able to software decode all that 10 bit animus.
figured an i5 should be able to
>>51796872
Fair enough
only if it gets too hot (fan is loud) or i hear coil whining
Yes, you're also meant to reapply your thermal paste every week.
>>51793455
You cover the pins in thermal paste then put it in the socket, that's where all the electricity comes from so that's where it's hottest.
>>51792913
I've had mine for 11 years
It's 250W babby but still durable add fuck
>>51796984
What the hell is that thing sticking out of it?
>>51796984
>250w
>on /g/
>>>/out/
Hell, I am still using my TX-750w Power Supply from my 2011 build and it is still working strong.
To be fair, I am looking at upgrading to something that is modular and can handle SLI OK within the next year.
>>51797079
This is a very very crap power supply
Sorry anon, you really could not have possibly made a worse choice when purchasing a psu
>>51797029
PSU is old so it doesn't have fan control, it always revs at 100% regardless of the load. I added one of these potentiometer to the fan to control the fan speed manually (it doesn't every get hot anyway so it's fine)
I've been wanting to replace it with a microcontroller and temperature sensor but I'm too lazy to do it
>>51796984
>P3 era Compaq Presario
>250watt PSU
>Has a motherfucking passthrough for the monitor even.
That brings back some memories anon.
>>51793455
>>51793553
>>51796465
>>51796926
>>51797180
Your ass is glass.
>>51796926
I once saved a CPU with a broken pin before. It was an AMD bulldozer, bought off ebay on the cheap because one pin was broken and I had a cpuless motherboard. Since I couldn't re-solder the pin that well I just ripped a spare pin off of an e-wasted processor, but the computer would glitch out if you so much as tapped it the wrong way, so what I did was I went and bought a tube of really cheap artic silver and put a tiny tiny tiiiiny lil gob on the bottom of the pin before putting it in the right place in the socket. It worked well for 24 hours but I decided I didn't want to deal with it the way it was, so I knew at that point what to do. Remembering that in my supplies I had two half-dead nvidia cards and I did a little shake'n'bake in the oven, went to microcenter and bought an open box special deal mediocre thermaltake case that looked alright and just grabbed a PSU off my shelf and spray painted it black.
the coup de'etat was I bought an actual nice cpu cooler for the damned thing which was also an open box dealio that I chanced upon, which looked really nice in there after I replaced what was obviously a shot fan with a non-pwm controlled standard 120mm chassis fan of the crappy sort that I also had lying around, like a Kingwin or something, whatever.
Figured out a wiring plan for inside the case and then took apart the PSU and clipped out all the wires I didn't need to use such that the case, despite lack of cable routing wasn't so much an issue anymore. Loaded up a good ol OEM crack windows 7 64 bit, threw in cheap ram, stuck on some of those useless chinese type dust-catchers... I mean ram heatsinks, you know the kind that looks good but is really just cheap steel clip thing.
I sold it on craigslist for well over a 4x return on investment.
>>51796155
>ketchup on pizza
Holy shit I never even though of this, it sounds delicious
Waiting for people you're eating with to get their food and be able to start eating at the same time as you is common courtesy though. It's one of the basic rules of etiquette, and starting to eat before the rest of the people is a sign of disrespect.
>>51797394
*with nothing but thermal grease*
>>51797162
Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeah maybe you should just get a new one...
>>51797636
yeah, no.
faggot
>>51794308
>Chinese
Started reading it in an accident and it became hilarious
>>51798157
Im curious. What type accent?
>>51795368
Welp tfw supernova g2
>>51792913
I still run this piece of shit on the original 19 year old 200W supply.
>>51799158
I won't lie, that not only looks good but is more than anyone really needs in their home.
>>51795368
Hoe can you sit there and say there are better psus than others. Like I genuinely don't get that. People are like I'll never buy seasonic or corsair I've heard bad shit. I've had my one psu that isn't on that list for six fucking years and through 2 builds.
Agitates the fuck out of me. Don't worry about if you're getting a b tier. Its gonna do the same shit and you won't notice. Unless you're fucking sticking a fork in it then whining on amazon.
>>51797031
>mfw people use PSUs rated higher than 300W
What are you making death ray or something?
>>51792913
I heard when you hold a can of air spray upside down and spray it while the power supply is on it does wonders and it would clean it well. Going to do this once mine gets super dusty
>>51792913
No, maybe every 5 years if it's shit brand and you let it collect dust
>>51797029
Not him but that's potentiometer.
More than likely he cut into the fan circuit and is using that control psu fan speed.
The two outer lugs have a small track with carbon on it and the center lug has a metal sweeper (attached to the knob) that moves along the track.
Based on where the track is how much goes through to the final destination.
Tbh I would've put the input on one outer lug and then the other outer lug soldered to the pot case and wired it to ground. Center lug back to the fan. Not sure how he has it.
>>51799569
I'm the guy with the 250W PSU
That picture was older, I modified it a bit again. The first and second terminal of the potentiometer are soldered together, and the yellow and black wire are connected to the PSU, the naked metal wire on the third terminal(don't worry it's insulated after that point)on the bottom is connected to the fan.
Basically this all falls on wire connecting the PSU and the fan.
The resistors are a few hundred Ohms in parallel because the whole setup was a bit too sensitive
>>51799207
Even a basic home use case will probably need a minimum of a late-era Pentium III nowadays to be acceptable, with the shit browser support on NT and JS cancer abound thrashing the shit out of even those ultra-expensive workstation chips you're pretty much stuck with what little is left of web 1.0, imageboard shitposting and wiki surfing, which just happens to be what I do on the internet anyway so I'm totally ok with it.
Though it's more than enough for offline tasks like word processing/spreadsheeting, programming, image editing and light CAD/basic 3D visualization (with a beefier card of course).
>>51799899
>web 2.0+ websites that'll work well on a p3:
>web 2.0+ websites worth visiting:
>>51800018
I daily drove a P4 1300 (the slowest commercially available Pentium 4, probably about on par with a 900 MHz Pentium III in real-world performance) with Win2k for the bulk of 2014-2015 and it actually did rather well on the modern web with 1 GB of RDRAM and tab moderation
>>51793979
R.I.P goldie
>>51793979
never forgetti
wow such loyal stronk chink
rip in peperoni goldi ;_;
i cri evritiem
>>51793979
400 Watt seasonic is my pride and joy.
No heat, no noise, no fancy lights and paint.
I swear it was taking 600 Watts before my CPU overclock took it overboard and starved the machine, repeatedly.
Got an 850 Watt but my GPUs can still send it overboard past 150w TDP limits.
Probably going to hand it down to my little brother for Christmas this year.
>>51796872
>software decode all that 10 bit animus
Bay Trail can do that
>>51802907
even bloated coalgirls-like rips?
>>51800757
Used P4 2,66 2gb ram till about a year ago. Was still usable but chrome would often crash,
Tried also old Asus netbook, atom 1.33 single core few days ago and it's unusable for web browsing, many pages won't even load.
Funny thing is that autocad/photoshop/office works reasonably well on it.
Modern web is horrible bloat.
Why is /g/ full of stupidity now? A while back there was a guy who rotated his ram sticks.
>>51795368
>crappy chart from reddit
>pc master race
retard detected
>>51797079
Still using my tx750w from 08
/g/ Im planning to buy this
Will Seasonic G550 80+ Gold Modular last more than 2 years if I use my PC like 15 hrs a day?
All the generics Im buying in the past only lasts 2 years
>>51803777
I have the 650 version and it should well last that. Read the review on jonhnyguru's site.
>>51793624
>60€ psu
>good
kek
>>51795595
That information is actually from TomsHardware, it says on the bottom right of the image.
Only the chart was created by someone on Reddit.
>>51794365
>>51794908
Jonnyguru is to blame for this shit. Now every kid is buying >$250 PSUs even for their low powered systems...
>>51805214
>I wouldn't touch it with a ten inch pole xDDD
>keep away like that was the plague xDDD
>I hope you have a fire extinguisher for that xDDDD
Most guys in those forums are meme spewing retards who probably even ever saw a PSU in real life.
>he doesn't own a ricer PSU
Maybe if you never fucking turn off your computer
I once nigger rigged a spare psu to power my graphics card because my main psu was a shit 300w.
>>51796155
>hurr you're holding the fork the wrong way
>waiting for the other fag to get his food before you start eating
This is how you spot an uneducated american swine.
>You eat your steak done x way
If you eat your steak well done you most likely just don't know any better. Overcooking kills flavour.
>>51797414
>>51805554
>It's one of the basic rules of etiquette, and starting to eat before the rest of the people is a sign of disrespect.
This is exactly the kind of non-argument I'm talking about. Hurr it's part of an arbitrary set of rules durr. I don't give a single shit about who gets to eat first. It wouldn't even occur to me to get offended if the other person started eating while I was still waiting for my food. And I really hate it when people start to see things into my behaviour, like disrespect, using retarded logic like yours.
Btw the reason I brought it up is that one time about five years ago our teacher was giving us shit for starting to eat when the other half of the class haven't gotten their food yet. I mean they were sitting at a different table for fuck's sake.
>This is how you spot an uneducated american swine.
I'm not even american you retard. And please give me an argument that isn't based on an arbitraíy convention for why it is better to hold your fork one way or another.
>If you eat your steak well done you most likely just don't know any better. Overcooking kills flavour.
Look bro I don't even eat steak, and the last time I ate one, it wasn't well done. I just find it pathetic when people argue about it, it's like watching a bunch of twelve year olds argue over phone brands or consoles. It's also hypocritical, like you probaably eat shitty food 90% of the time, but when it comes to steak you suddenly become a food connoisseur.
>>51806313
How many fedoras do you own?
>>51806690
About five, I'm too lazy to check it now.
>>51794948
>can't type properly
>can't hold a camera
>can't dust his PC out
>can't manage his cables worth a shit
>has XFX Nvidia card
Topkek, senpai. Fuck off back to whatever asian shithole you crawled out of.
I've had my HX1000W since 2008 and it's still going.
>1000W is overkill
So?
I used it in a rig with 11HDDs, two XFX 8800GTX 630M and OC'd Q6600.
>>51795368
>First brand I saw was Apevia
>Been having a mental break down because I tried to remember their shitty x-shaped pc cases.
Thank you for finally reminding me of it.
>Turns out I also have this "thing"
Thinking of using it in a 1337 Pentium 3 computer I have laying around.
>>51802916
I've noticed that I get the best performance on older systems that use RDRAM rather than "regular" DDR, it could also be that I just don't hit very JS-laden sites.
DDR systems just feel sluggish as shit, but you take a contemporary RDRAM system and load it up with 1 GB or more and it will fly.
>>51792913
That Aux x1 connector... brings back memories.
might as well ask here
is 520W enough for an i5 4590 and a 380X or should I get 620W? Looking at Seasonic S12II
>>51808657
bls resbond
>>51796984
>>51797162
You're ghetto as fuck bro. Love your setup.
>>51797079
>2011
>750W
>STILL going strong
as it should, god damn cheapshit power supplies last 4 years easily
>>51805384
Why the fuck does a psu need to be lit up?
>>51808920
Try Eurocase, they usually burst into flames the first time you turn them on.
>>51808938
>rice
>>51809043
Been using Modecom 620W PSU for 4 years now, no problems apart from it being completely non modular, not having a rating and having a short mobo cable, after changing the case, it barely reaches
>>51794308
>using dorm electricity
>actually subscribing to the education jew
>not buying several large rolls of lead sheet
>not making your own plante-cell battery with lead sheet
>not recharging batteries via cheap DIY solar from ebay
total cost - 400$
total amount of electricity provided - $40,000 worth
you dont even know what a plante cell battery is
$30 deep cool psu
will it work?
>>51809189
If it is so easy then why haven't you implemented it already? Or if you did, why don't you post a pic with a timestamp?
