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Comcast CEO justifies data caps “The more bits you use, the
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Using his analogy, it'd be like if I fill up my car with gas, and at the end of the month BP comes around and siphons whatever is in my tank out, then wants to charge me extra money to get the gas back so I can drive to their gas station to fill up again for the next month.

https://web.archive.org/web/20151210060542/http://arstechnica.com/business/2015/12/the-more-bits-you-use-the-more-you-pay-comcast-ceo-explains-data-caps/
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>>51783386
>Leaked customer service documents say Comcast's data caps are not related to congestion management, and a Comcast VP recently said that setting the monthly data limit at 300GB is a "business policy" rather than a technical necessity.
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Brian Roberts didn't know what Wi-Fi was until Steve Jobs told him about it.
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>>51783386
>people who have no idea about technology creating and enforcing policies regarding said technology
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>>51783386
literal fucking extortion
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>>51783386
>Using his analogy, it'd be like if I fill up my car with gas, and at the end of the month BP comes around and siphons whatever is in my tank out, then wants to charge me extra money to get the gas back so I can drive to their gas station to fill up again for the next month.
Using his analogy, it'd be like paying for the amount of gas your put into your tank.
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>>51783915
his analogy is stupid

Gasoline has to be produced, it has a finite supply, same goes with electricity.

Bits are not a limited resource, he pulled this shit like yesteryear where he got in front of congress and lied about all his shit and claimed "The internet has to be rationed"
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>>51783928
Bits aren't a limited resource, but the infrastructure used to transport them needs to be maintained and improved.

They need to make money off it or else they can't improve it.
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>>51783945
Good thing Comcast is an insanely profitable company already, and they spend almost nothing on infrastructure upgrades.
They must be saving up for something really great. Praise Comcast.
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Mind you, this is coming about a month after I received and upgrade to unlimited data.

Get fucked Americunts.
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What the fuck this isn't gas or water or electricity stop fucking charging it like it is.
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>>51783945
Unlike other companies, Comcast is one of the only ones next to Cox who charges for caps.

Verizon actually offers me unlimited fiber, 50up 50 down for 60 dollars a month

comcast doesn't offer fiber, wants to sell me shit coaxial for much more AND give me a data cap
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>>51783963
Its more prevalent in Canada believe it or not

>>51783945
but comcast doesn't improve their infrastructure, why don't they offer me fiber and other options rather than 30 year old copper coaxial?
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>>51784021
Canada is in America.
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>>51784050
When people say America = USA

when people say Canada = Canada
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>>51783386
>>51783945
When was the last time I paid for the amount of data I transferred, rather than the speed of said transfer? Oh right, that was more than 10 years ago, back when I still used a telephone cable to connect to the internet via a dial-up. This practice is terribly outdated nowadays, just like pay-as-you-browse data plans. Now, only stone-age providers offer data plans this outdated.
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>>51783386
>charging 1 dollar per gig

thats 3 times as expensive as the highest quality SSD's

it'd be cheaper to fill SSD's with information and send them across the country via air than pay that fee
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>>51784061
As a Eurofag, I can confirm this.

Because almost nobody ever talks about Canada in here.
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>>51784061
He knows that. Europeans just like to be pedantic.
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>>51783915
You always pay the same amount it doesn't matter if you reach the cap or don't download a single byte
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>>51784231
I blame the jews
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I'd be all for charging for data use.

Oh how much does data cost to transport across a cable? Oh is that NOTHING?
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>>51784005
Verizon actually does have a cap, but it is actually very much a non-issue at 10TB on FIOS and 5TB on dsl, before they start sending you scary letters.
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>>51784081
Actually lold
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>>51784259
>electricity costs nothing
News to me.
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Gas or electricity? Gas is a limited quantity that depletes and must be replenished. Electricity must be generated to match demand. Bandwidth capacity must be built, but after that, it does not require replenishment after use. The cost for them to provide data is $0.01/Gb, we Americans spent over $200 billion for infrastructure upgrades the telecoms never performed and we pay the most money for the least quality, slowest service. Europeans and Asians constantly laugh at us because as most of us spend $70/mo for 35mbps with caps, they spend $5/mo for fiber. A small town in Oregon called Sandy was getting snubbed and not getting service delivered to them so they instituted their own municipal DSL, and eventually Fiber for $30/mo and now the internet companies are lobbying to make municipal internet programs illegal across the country while trying to convince normies that the internet should be charged at $1.00/Gb because they're upset people are leaving cable TV in droves for Netflix, chromecasts and rokus. They offered me Cable TV with HBO for $3 per month. I said hell no and the Indian Lady was shocked - Why would I pay to watch commercials all day? They should pay me or discount my internet bill for that really. If they really wanted to charge to cover their expenses and delivering a Terabyte of data per month they would charge $15. They cynically believe the country is full of moronic slaves, and while they are mostly correct, they won't win this fight since classically Americans seem to care more about muh internets and come together on that more than any other social issue ever. These days the battle is between mainstream media and social media and it seems social media has been tipping the scales - join me in slut shaming them - it's the only driving force for positive change against ridiculously retarded policies from scheming CEOs whose statements are always an utter abortion.
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>>51783386
Ausfag here.
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We also got data caps in Germany. Kabel Deutschland is limiting you download speed to 100kbyte after reaching 10gb of p2p or filesharing per day. O2 caps when reaching 300gb three month in a row. Vodafone has data caps as well.
I don't know if limiting actually takes place as I'm no costumer of said providers. I have unity media 100mbits it's like 20€ a month with no caps.

I always thought bandwidth costs literally nothing, and I don't get why data caps do even exist.
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>>51785283
Data caps exist for the same reason credit cards do.
Profit from those with poor self control.
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>>51785242
>80 dollarydoos a month
>3 Mbps downstream max theoretical, in reality 1Mbps most of the time
>no cap
suffering, NBN when?
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>>51783560
Those shifty reptilians think we're going to pay for their next project. They got another thing coming.
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>>51786188
>nbn
Don't give a shit, been on optus 4g for a year now and I've stopped paying for adsl2+ since.
4g is so much better than addl2+
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>>51786222
you can hit close to 20Mbps sync speed if you are under 1.5KM, 5KM cable length from exchange is suffering.

Telstra and optus cable can achieve around 30Mbps here on coax, but they cost an arm and leg.
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>>51786288
Usually ping is closer to 20 and download is closer to 30mbps, but I've seen it go higher than that too.
This current result is about twice as good as I was getting with adsl2+
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>>51784081
If you are dealing with large data it is also faster: https://what-if.xkcd.com/31/
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>>51783945
>but the infrastructure used to transport them needs to be maintained and improved.

EXACTLY!

If you use the infrastructure not at all or 24/7, the cost for upkeeping is the same.

So why charge for data when it doesn't correlate to the actual costs at all?
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>>51786221
No they dont. They have a cornered beaten down market, local net companoes cant touch their soeeds, and slow internet is intolerable to the masses.
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>living in Switzerland
>in the span of 3 years my ISP doubled my speed TWICE
>1st time from 75mbps to 150mps, 1CHF more every month
>2nd time 150mbps to 300mbps, 4CHF more every month

Meanwhile amerikeks pay more than I do for slow internet and datacaps.
Feels good living in a 1st world country.
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>>51783953
>They must be saving up for something really great. Praise Comcast.
fucking kek.

We all live dreaming for the day where our telcos treat us like customers deserving of decent service. Our politicians have been ensuring that won't happen for the next 20 years in Australia, god fucking bless.
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>>51784081
I wonder if you can rent one of those "cloud" servers and have them ship the drive to you.
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>>51783386
Cellular data is already billed this way. You know your being unfair. That's where data caps come in. Paying more for using over 300 GB of data is fair.
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>>51787651
Cellular data should be a flat rate for unlimited with no caps, if they really charged you to cover the expenses of delivering data it would be $0.05 per GB. That's $50/month for a terabyte, yet you think $50/month on top of your plan for 3 GB is fair how? nice b8
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I thought it's because Comcast doesn't have network world wide and to provide world wide access they need to have an agreement with other isp which charge them per gb/tb
now as people have started using the Internet more and more they need to pay other isp more money and since other isp charge then for amount of data used so they also do the same.
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>>51783386
Comparing selling bandwidth to selling gasoline is idiotic though.
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>>51783386
>"The more bits you use, the more you pay”

Good, you should have no problem then being classified as a regulated utility.
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>>51789035
>Cellular data should be a flat rate for unlimited with no caps

Good luck convincing Comcast and the rest of the US population. Until then, enjoy the data cap ride.
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>>51789902
Forgot to post anime.
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>>51790057
That or dial up. So much choice and innovation. Thanks FCC!
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>>51790090

well I will enjoy my fast as hell cable internet that doesnt rape me on bandwidth charges like comcrap

enjoy your shit internet provider
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