god dammit why are laptops so fucking overpriced? I have $450 on my amazon account after returning shit. I want to buy the best laptop I can find. It's all fucking garbage. $450 into a tower would shit all over these things for 10 years and last that long as well. These fucking shitbooks look like they'd die in two years, let alone become obsolete by then.
>>51765710
Laptops are for mobility, not performance.
>>51765721
/thread
>>51765721
This. And it depends. Some are made for performence.
>>51765710
buy used on newegg. I've seen refurbed thinkpads and old pro dells with intel quad-cores and high clock speeds on there for under 400
>>51766168
get like a sager or something if you want performance per dollar. just be prepared to spend 1200-1500 though and get 2 hours of battery life idling
>>51766168
yeah, but none of them are particularly good at it.
>>51765721
this 2bh
/thread
>>51765710
That Elitebook is actually a great computer with Sandy Bridge and cheap.
Just buy a thinkpad u fucking shill
>>51765710
Asus R510CA-RB51 (refurbished) on Walmart.
You're welcome.
>>51766889
>1366x768
>>51766928
that's what you get for $450. Besides, a 15,6 screen doesn't need much more.
>not getting a macbook
>>51766969
You may be okay with getting ripped off, but I'm not.
>>51766991
OK mr. picky. Go get a shill device and consider suicide.
This is what I get for helping assholes.
GOOD NIGHT TO YOU SIR.
>>51765710
it's almost as if you're paying for the entire rest of the computer as well as weaker parts for better battery life
woah!
>>51767005
>thinks suggesting overpriced shit specced refurbs is help
>spouts reddit memes as he leaves
>>51766969
1376x768 is netbook resolution mayne. its 2015
>>51766753
This 100%
Don't fall for the thinkpad meme. Thinkpads are the fedora of laptops.
>>51765710
literally on the laptop in the image. Can confirm that it lasts at least a year and a half and is durable as fuck and doesn't make you look autistic like a thinkpad does
>>51766753
>>51767041
You're both delusional. The only thing worse than that keyboard is the useless trackpoint ripoff. Not only is it inaccurate as fuck, but it also lacks a scroll button. Don't get me wrong; it's built like a tank and it can be bought for fucking peanuts, but it's shit compared to a T430.
>>51767053
I'm looking at a 2560p right now for like $150. What are the typical problems or things you don't like about the laptop?
Does it allow you to enable stereo mix in the audio options?
>>51767067
It's the X220 equivalent.
>buy shitty budget-model thinkpad R40 for $30 that can't run anything made after 2010 very well or last 5 minutes off of the outlet
>it's a complete energy hog
>run it over with a car out of rage
>the car shatters into bite-sized pieces
>year 2999
>the R40 still works but the batteries are still fucking dead
>human life ended 984 years prior to this anyway so the batteries aren't really a problem
Just buy the oldest, shittiest thing you can find.
I see loads of laptops around my area (in brick and mortar stores) for sub $400. They're all perfectly fine computers for 90% of computing tasks. Its really just games and graphics, and virtual machines, that will stress a computer out so obviously if thats your plan you need to budget more
$450 for a prebuilt desktop is going to suck ass too. but still be enough for 90% or more of computer tasks
I think the mere fact that a new laptop can be had for $400 or less is astonishing.
And a laptop has tons of parts a desktop doesnt. like a battery, and a monitor, and a keyboard and mouse, webcam and mic. wifi adapter, bluetooth adapter.
lol captcha was identify street signs, there were at least 5 pics of cannabis nugs
>>51767140
Build quality is an issue with cheap laptops.
Sure they're less than $400, but they'll last you 6 months at most before falling apart.
I'd say a quality ultra portable is probably the best thing you can buy; problem is I can't stand windowshit and macfaggotry so I'm worried that if I buy an ultrabook I won't be able to run my distro of choice on it.
i recommend you compare the power draw from a desktop computer to that of a laptop, consider the laptop battery, and grow a fucking brain.
>laptops so fucking overpriced
>only has $450 to spend on a laptop
seriously what the fuck. Any laptop under $450 is reasonably priced
>>51767068
Worst things:
- low-ish resolution(1366x768)
- Speakers, by far the worst I've ever had in a laptop.
- Weird, super-proprietary hp BIOS. Nothing inhibiting about it, just kind of a pain to work with sometimes. Can definitely tell it was meant to be a super-corporate laptop though through the QuickWeb options.
Other than having the island keys which bothers some but I don't mind, its a great laptop. With a quad-core i5 sandybridge, 16gigs(unneccesary but need to run a bunch of VMs sometimes), and a 500 gig spinning disk it does a great job of getting me through college. However, don't expect it to drive more than two screens at a time. That's been my primary gripe between it and newer thinkpads which can sometimes drive three screens. However, it does support displayport out which is great if you have a single, high resolution monitor. Also looks and feels very clean despite having used it for a year and a half very regularly. I would attribute that to the aluminum-ish exterior.
>>51767194
Does it smell like shit like the thinkpads do? I hear the hinges are bad on these.
>>51765721
this.
I'm looking at HP 8350p elitebook
its low end but for $150 NZ its by far better than my curret laptop
but i'm questioning that 1gb Vram though.
I don't know enough about thinkpads to buy one To be honest family.
>>51767075
I had an x220 and sold it for $450 and got a hp elitebook 2760p, the elitebook was $220 with a real i5 @2.5 ghz, 8gb ram, 240gb ssdand it came with an extra slim battery and a docking station, and the screen is much better than the x220s was the touch screen actually works much better and is super responsive, the website that sells them is called computer express, they might be out of Em by now though, they went quick, I was all about think pads but after using this little elitebook I'll never go back, o know it sounds like I'm schilling, but if I was OP I'd get the hp 2760p for sure
I've owned an 8470w and a folio 9480m, both were great
LET'S GET THIS SHIT STARTED
>15.6"
>1366x768
>500GB 5400 rpm HDD
>>51767229
The 8470 had this retarded led keyboard illuminator next to the webcam instead of a backlit kb though
>>51767248
The latter two are unnecessary.
>15.6"
Dealbreaker right off the bat
>>51767249
All of these business laptops have that.
>>51766753
you fucking retards are actually shilling for HP now
fuck this board
>>51767299
mad that you bought a shitpad, kuckboi?
Alot of the laptops come with shitty soldered in ram and no upgrade options. 2gb ram in 2015 almost 2016. Wtf. 4gb ram no upgrade option wtf? Also whos shitty idea was it to put in soldered in 16 and 32gb emmc drives in laptops and call them ssds?
>>51767318
i don't own a laptop :^)
>>51767286
So do you think 15.6 is too big or too small?
cause for me its too big. 10"-13.5" is perfect for a laptop imho. I only wish manufacturers would start pumping 1080p or higher screens into those things. I cant stand this 1366x768 shit
in my opinion screen res trumps screen size completely. larger screens are a red flag for low dpi.
>>51767321
yeah i wonder whose idea that was
>>51767339
Too big, 13" is pushing it for me, I can use down to 10" comfortably (at least on a 16:9 laptop), but to me god-tier laptops are 12.1" 4:3 models.
>>51767375
i got a base model xps 13 for coding work
1080p screen, 10 hour battery life, excellent lunix support
>>51765710
I agree Laptops are way too fucking expensive. I shopped around for a couple months but couldnt ever decide on one. Then one day this old friend i hadnt seen in over 5 years showed up at my house and the tweaker had a DELL 15r i3 1.7ghz 6gb 750gb hdd for $40 no joke ive had it for almost a year. so long story short go befriend some tweakers and get sht cheap af.
>>51767432
yeah befriend some tweakers until they break into your house and steal + sell your shit too
>>51767429
isn't it like $800 for the core i3 with 4gb ram pffpfpfptftfftft
>>51767455
er nm i got the i5/8gb for $800
incredibly worth it, since i walk to and from the train everyday
seriously the only bad thing about it is that the usb3c port is how you get hdmi out, and that's a $5 adapter
>>51767211
Hinges aren't terrible. They kinda look like they're a little out of whack, but I blame that its refurbished. They feel super stable when opening, closing and holding the laptop. They're supposedly made out of titanium
Definitely does not smell like shit
>>51767432
I have a tweaker friend that does some kind of buy and return scam. I get stuff like this way cheap all the time.
I'd never tell him where I live, though.
>>51767455
Yea thats why I ended up getting an x220 i3 8gb instead. $120 :D
>>51767502
>i3
KUCKED
>>51765710
>god dammit why are laptops so fucking overpriced? I have $450 on my amazon account
So youre poor. The base cost for the size of the parts is $450. It will scale much faster after you stop being poor.
Did you think that monitor in your screen was free. Did you think that mouse and keyboard were free. Did you not think that because of their format its going to be more expensive. Intel is amazing so the cpu's are about the same price its just limited to the heat. GPU's cost a shit ton. Did you think squeezing a 380mm gpu into 20mm was cheap.
>>51767562
lol shut up fag
>amazon
>laptop
>performance
You should have gone to ebay instead, buy used. You can get what was a top of the line laptop in 2012 (which is still top of the line in 2015) for $700.
Just look up on ebay "ThinkPad i7 QM MQ" or something like that.
>>51767657
A Sandy Bridge i7 is still more than competitive in this day and age.
>>51767657
>>51767677
I already owned a W520 with a 2760QM, 16GB RAM, 1920x1080 , HDD+SSD
It's just too much money for what it is. It's still an old, heavy laptop with low efficiency.
>>51767696
I don't know what you're expecting from a business laptop other than to be heavy.
Regardless of the laptops age, the newest W541 from this year is almost no different from the W520 from ~2011. Specs have changed, nothing else has.
Frankly, if you're seriously expecting business laptop tier performance from ultrabook thin laptops for under $1700, you have brain problems.
Man, don't even go there bitching about laptops being overpriced. It's like they're practically giving that shit away in the US. Here in the land of the rising dung one has to pay 2-3 times as much for something that's already a generation or two behind. For how much people picture this place as some kind of tech utopia it's like a third world shithole. I saved over $1,000 US buying a laptop from B&H (Amazon and Newegg won't ship overseas), paying for international shipping, and then paying tax on top of that.
>>51767905
>the newest W541 from this year is almost no different from the W520
Exept from the design
>>51767217
All you need to know about thinkpads is either you get a x220 or a t420. And that all comes down to preference.
When it comes to laptops you should buy used. No, really.
You can get laptops that are high quality, but just older. And so cheaper.
The tradeoff is you get older parts, but since the production quality was higher, the laptop will last.
Tfw bought a stinkpad T-420 for 300€
>>51765710
T420 or 8460p and why?
>>51768060
>stinkpad
i get it
>>51768061
T420 if you don't mind the smell and lower build quality
here you go OP best i could find for $450
http://www.amazon.com/Toshiba-Satellite-C55-C5241-Laptop-Intel/dp/B010SBAJDS/ref=sr_1_2?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1449646417&sr=1-2&keywords=laptop
hope you have prime for free shiping
-R
/.
>>51767429
That shit costs 1.7k here in Australia, and that's after a $400 drop from 2.1k
>>51767053
>>51767194
Can you use the AC Adapter without the battery installed without throttling? 90W adapter for thinkpads allows you to do that.
>>51768235
wtf?
>dumb
>>51767217
Jesus senpai I thought I had your dumb ghusa ass filtered
>I don't know enough about thinkpads
we have a fucking general for that. If you're interested in Elitebooks avoid anything older than 2560p/8560p, second/third gen is where it's at.
>>51768420
Anon, can you answer >>51768250 for that elitebook pls? Which of those do you use more btw?
>>51767217
I kinda hate HP, but damn, these elite books are cheap and it's tempting.
>>51768031
why those models inparticular?
>>51768420
why is the fucking spacebar and trackpoint keys right next to each other fucking dumb
>>51768420
does the elitebook have stereo mix?
>>51767339
>larger screens are a red flag for low dpi
The DPI is the same as on a 1080p desktop screen. Now someone's going to say "who still uses a 1080p screen". But sure, 1440p is a bit higher depending on screen size
>>51768114
P...pretty good right?
>>51768444
Can you use the AC Adapter without the battery installed without throttling? 90W adapter for thinkpads allows you to do that.
The only Elitebook model I've heard that throttles is the 8460p, mine (2170p) has an i5-3427U processor so I doubt it throttles when charging, but I only have 65W adapters. You can slap a 250W adapter on any Elitebook if you really felt like it.
I bought them for different purposes, the x200t is for fucking around with note taking and being a cheap piece of shit I got of a local trading site for like $90USD.
>>51768466
>trackpoint keys
I assume you mean the buttons right under the space button on the 2170p, it's GOAT and comfy as fuck and blows the fuck out of every other touchpad including macshits. Only complaint is the buttons on the bottom are wasted space, I know there are thinkpads with the buttons under the spacebar too.
>>51768483
Not that I am aware of, my 2170p and my brothers 2560p use a combined audio/mic jack and when he tried to use his for audio in it wouldn't work.
>>51768495
yes. they smell like a burning tire.
>>51768114
>if you don't mind the smell
What smell? Is my nose busted or some shit, I can't smell anything
>>51768501
>Not that I am aware of, my 2170p and my brothers 2560p use a combined audio/mic jack and when he tried to use his for audio in it wouldn't work.
no m8. i mean when you go to the audio settings on the desktop taskbar, right click and go to recording devices, right click on there to 'show disabled devices' and it should have stereo mix available to enable. Does it? I really, really want to know this and will give you e-points if you can answer this.
>>51768504
>>51768508
Ok now this is getting weird, I've had this thing for months and never has it crossed my mind that this thing smells weird in some way
>>51768508
All (most, maybe not well-worn thinkpads) have this funky smell to them.
It tends to come strongest from the HDD hole.
>>51768508
>>51768526
your nose is fucked up, then. thinkpads develop a smell after like 2-3 years that smells like sweaty balls/burning tires.
>he's carrying that around with him at university
>everyone thinks it's him
hahaha wow
>>51768523
>>51768501
Can you confirm or deny that this Elitebook has a sweaty balls smell like the thinkpads do?
>>51768540
I've never taken this outside. I guess maybe it hasn't been in use for that long then
>>51768546
My Elitebook smells fine, my Thinkpad has it's iconic funky smell.
>>51768545
>Elitebooks have stereo mix
>Elitebooks don't smell
I am settling on the fact that they are objective better than ShitPads(tm) in every way only because of this.
>>51768504
Actually my Stinkpad doesnt really smell Bad.
>>51768565
I also think Elitebooks (xx6x, xx7x, folio 9740m) look far better as well. A shame the current models look like crappy chromebooks now.
>>51768610
What's the deal with the temperatures, anyway? I always hear that the crutch of these Elitebooks are that they reach ridiculous temperatures like 90C on load. Is that kekpad propaganda?
>>51765721
Nobody's asking for performance, but it would help if they wouldn't break if you look at them. Everything except the business class laptops are delicate darlings which last maybe 2 years at most and then have some major hardware failure.
>>51768618
Not really kekpad propoganda, just HP's poor thermal solutions meme for their consumer crap rolling over to their professional range, Elitebooks don't have the best cooling but it sure is a hell of a lot better than the pavilion garbage they produce, cleaning is easier as well because most of HP's professional laptops put most of the components behind a single door so cleaning fan/heatsink is 2-3 screws away.
>>51768653
wtf model is that?
>>51768671
Elitebook 2170p
>>51768675
I think don't remember why but there was a reason I went with the 12.5" over that.
>>51765710
So you are basically saying you are a complete idiot.
>>51768679
The 2560p/2570p is a pretty fucking based model as well. Bought one off trade me for $50 that was water damaged, still had warranty and HP sent someone to my house to replace the motherboard with no charge. Dell has really good support in that regard as well.
Whereas when I asked Lenovo for a quote for a part they insisted that I had to send it in to them, the part was going to cost around $100 not including labour. For a plastic part which I ended up getting on ebay for ~$20.
>>51765710
I have a core i7 refurbished t410 with an ssd for 300 bucks, maybe you are simply a total retard who wants to GAYME on a laptop.
>>51768675
>2170p
why would you pick one with a ULV processor over a regular one?
>>51768731
It was cheap. Like $150USD for 120GB SSD and 8GB RAM configuration, if my calculations are correct.
And in all honesty it's good for what I use it for, I tried GTA V on it for shits and giggles and it ran at a shitty 10-15 fps, while reaching 85 degrees c.
>>51768761
how the fuck do you find prices like that? I find the same configuration for $250 all over.
>>51768621
My 4 year old $300 HP G4-1315dx in perfect functioning condition would like a word with you, ham fists.
Stop breaking your shit.
If laptops are overpriced then why don't you start a business, easily undercutting the overpriced laptops?
>>51768777
At the time I was working for a company that decommissioned other companies old IT stock and sold them, those happened to come through one day and I nabbed one.
>>51768782
im a skellington
My dell latitude and an HP pavillion died because of faulty NVIDIA chips. I had to get their motherboards changed but the same shit happened with the new motherboards too.
>>51766753
this to be honest family
got an i7 2760p + dock for 200 buckaroos because nobody else bid on it
every component works out of the box with loonigs bar the fingerprint reader
>>51768540
W530 since 2012 here
no smell
To be fair, I have replaced the motherboard and bezel a number of times, so the bezel hasn't had a chance to undergo hundreds of heat cycles yet.
>>51768833
I can't remember which tablet I got the fingerprint reader working with on linux. I had a 2740p and T2020 and I got one of them working with fprint-demo. I believe that the 2740p and 2760p use the same fingerprint reader.
ITT /g/ realizes why god-tier elitebooks are better than poopads
>>51769133
>buying HP ever
>willingly being a member of the Intel/NSA botnet
>>51769147
>"Did you take a shower today, anon? You smell like shit!"
>"Oh... it's your... your laptop..? Okay... That's weird. Do you bring it to the bathroom with you or something?"
>everyone declares you to be the weird smelly guy
poo in loo
>>51769175
i don't own a laptop :^)
Same reason phones are, research cost.
>>51765710
I wanted to buy laptop with WQHD display and it would've cost more than 2000 euros.
So I made PC with 2x980 Ti instead.
Fuck laptops my dumbphione is enough for me
I'm really set on buying myself an Asus ROG G752VT. Found one on clearance, has an i7 6700HQ, 24GB DDR4, a GTX970M, 1TB HD and a 128 SSD. Can't find anything wrong with it or the distributor, so I'm ready to shell out $1,470.
>>51769442
keked
>>51769563
Heh, haven't played WoW in years, seeing that takes me back.
>>51768621
Then buy a used memepad or elitebook.
X220 is perfect for mobility imho. Get something else if the low resolution bothers you.
>>51769592
i guess you want to smell like shit
>>51769133
>Alps touchpads
>ever
I hate Dell for putting a piece of shit like that in the E6410.
>>51769638
>Alps
Not sure whats worse, Alps or Elan.
c-can you use a thinkpad charger on an elitebook?
>>51767248
>4GB (2x2GB) RAM
>>51767248
>glossy screen
>17.3"
>1366x768
>subpar amd APU
>250GB seagate hdd
>>51765710
just chip in the extra bucks and get a macbook desu
>>51769761
you might as well buy an SKS and mcfucking kill yourself.
>>51766168
this is stupid. even myself i do some photoshop works on a T61p when i'm on the move, and some graphics stuff, but a desktop PC remains important if you want to do serious stuff. it's about the work environment too.
>>51769787
god I wish I was american
>>51769678
No.
>>51769678
>13yo me has shitty Acer laptop
>charger dies
>see used HP charger for $2 in discount bin at second hand store
>buy it
>don't know about voltages
>try to plug it into laptop
>barrel too short
>use knife to strip back plastic
>barrel reaches now
>use it with no problems for 2 years
>charger brick ended up melting when it was left under blanket
I'm lucky to be alive guys
>>51770166
HP chargers are 18.5v/19v/19.5v while Acer chargers are 19v, I don't see the problem here.
>>51770176
I was more referring to the fact that dumbass me had no clue that laptop chargers had different voltages/wattages, and persisted with hacking off pieces of plastic to make something that obviously didn't fit work.
>>51770166
If the voltage was right, it doesn't matter much.
Leaving the brick under a blanket is pantsu-on-head retarded though.
