>Requesting purchase advice:
http://pastebin.com/hjHkKDyM
>/g/ wiki headphone FAQ:
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php?title=Headphones
>Previous thread:
>>51739412
Friendly reminder to add your guides to the wiki
>>51746041
Can anyone else confirm?
>>51746123
Filtered.
>>51746123
Do you want open headphones, they are good choices, especially the HD558 which is commonly recommended here.
>>51746123
Filtered.
>>51746153
i have a pair
should i do the foam mod?
>>51746071
if she was just a little less thick itd be really cute
>>51746123
Filtered.
The HD598s have more than enough bass
This statement is true for everyone who isn't a nigger
Are you a nigger?
>>51746245
What's it like being a fag?
>>51746265
In what world is rolled off bass that isn't near the normalized level "more than enough". Are you a 70 year old classical fanatic?
>>51746266
stick to pedo or something, it makes more sense, but still doesnt actually make sense
>>51746296
loli is for casuals.
>>51746288
which headphones represent a normalized level of bass?
>>51746153
Did hear open headphones are good if you wanted to hear from what direction something came from in-game.
Seems like the Philips ones aren't sold here anymore. The ad900x is 499 euro's here.
That leaves the Senheiser to be on the top.
They look hidious, but I guess you can't have everything, and I won't be walking with these things outside anyway. Just on my desktop and on the go with the laptop. Peformance is more important.
So, any other models that you recomment?
If not, I'm looking into these already.
>>51746315
brainwavz hm5
>>51746317
Filtered
>>51746315
HE-400i, LCD2, HE-560, LCD3
>>51746264
>>51746166
>>51746135
>>51746330
The hell does that mean
>>51746317
Filtered.
>>51746334
>planars
>normalized bass
i get what you think but they dont really count. 99.9% of the headphones people wear are dynamics. i want what normalized bass looks like on dynamics
>>51746347
Filtered
>>51746354
DT880/HD800 are probably the closest you'll get in open dynamics.
>>51746312
i didnt say i liked lolis, i said it would make more sense to say i was one rather than being gay
at least your logic is refining a little bit i guess
>>51746071
I like my V-Moda Crossfade LP2's, but won 'em in a contest. So far they hold up better than the Bose SoundLink bluetooth ones I got as a gift.
I will warn you, they don't need much in the way of driving. '10' in Windows Audio is almost too loud.
>>51746373
really 880s? i guess i love bass a lot then, because i have them and consider them pretty much no bass. well it's there but... yeah im biased
>>51746397
>samefag
>literally the 2nd one you linked to was a new IP
>>51746399
It certainly isn't 'lacking' but headphones like the 990 and HD800 have more emphasis on midbass so it's hard to call it neutral or normalized.
>>51746397
lel
![WMKHyY[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/ydwQaDV.png "WMKHyY[1].png")
>>51746437
IF chart showing a quite different story
![e2b410b13ce86acea9af8a56bc1bb732[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/RwjnH1V.png "e2b410b13ce86acea9af8a56bc1bb732[1].png")
>>51746464
It varies.
>>51746544
>that middle finger treble spike
every fucking time
>>51746464
IF boosts the midrange zone a bit. Not that Marv uses an anatomical mounting or anything.
>>51746558
6-8khz is much worse than 9khz for a treble spike to be fair. The most painful sibilance comes from there. But again, it varies from headphone to headphone and basing opinions on very specific parts of graphs is pretty stupid when you consider how much variance there is in just the graphs posted alone.
>>51746596
it also depends from person to person. to me, 5-6k is terribly bad if too high.
![69ce456299dfa6f53c87e849f29e1c1a[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/37VbZJc.png "69ce456299dfa6f53c87e849f29e1c1a[1].png")
>>51746626
Of course, but for example if someone were to say "The DT880 are terrible headphones because they have a huge spike at 9KHz!".. Well, Marv's graph clearly shows a spike at 8KHz and a lesser one at 6KHz instead. Plus what about this newer DT880 measurement from Goldenears? (There hasn't been any changes To the DT880 at all, so it's not a revision or anything. Tyll got a similar measurement with the 32ohm model he had)
>>51746702
yeah im not in that argument. ive never had any problems with treble on my 880s purchased 2 years ago, lovem through and through
>>51746702
I've been wondering how GE makes measurements of headphones for a while, but variance is common and normal.
>>51744179
>>51744039
Correction, MDR V600's
They sound pretty nice, so I'm pretty happy with them.
Dunno why I thought they were MDRV6s
>that feel when K7xx master race
>>51746315
>>51746334
This is wrong, those planars are bass heavy, sure the bass output is flat but the rest of the spectrum is not flat.
Closest thing to actual flat bass would be Etymotic ER-4B/S.
>>51747568
>it's not flat bass because of the other frequencies
Fuck off retard.
>>51747592
He asked for normalized levels of bass, retard.
Educate yourself.
>>51747617
not that guy, but i dont know what thats supposed to mean. does it mean bass that even with the rest of the spectrum or just an average amount of bass that people want?
>>51747617
Just stop posting, retard.
>>51747632
Bass even with the rest of the spectrum.
>>51747633
Why? I'm far more knowledgeable than you, retard.
>>51747656
>I'm far more knowledgeable than you, retard.
Go back to head-fi.
>>51747568
>Closest thing to actual flat bass would be Etymotic ER-4B/S.
Rolloff, gets trumped by the Opus 1.
>>51747632
>normalization
>it mean bass that even with the rest of the spectrum
There's the definition.
Even so, Hifimans aren't nearly as dark as the Audezes. Bass is even.
>>51747664
Nah, kid.
>>51747678
Opus 1 can be classified as bass biased on a DF target.
>>51747711
I don't really consider it that way since resistive damping takes care of that. Not even worth considering a mod since a simple in-line attenuator does it.
>>51747738
Fair enough.
Still got my old-ass UE 100ohm adapter.
Fostex TH-X00 must be blunder of the century...like 10 units went on sale on headfi for sale forum today
Hey guys I need new full-sized headphones and could use some suggestions. US
My budget is 150$ or less. I'll be plugging them into the ACM of my Sound Blaster Zx. Most important thing is a comfortable headband, last few headsets i've had really dug into the top of my head giving me headaches so nice cushioning at the top of the head is important. I wear glasses so the cushioning and pressure around the ears needs to be somewhat soft. I need them to be closed-back as well.
Preferably nice audio quality for music/gaming but as long as they can make good use of my sound card and are very comfortable thats all I want. thanks in advance
>>51748021
DT770
HE 6 >>HE 560 > LCD 2 >>>> Whatever you use.
>>51748280
SR-007 > HE 6 > HE-560 ≥ HE-400i >>>> LCD 2 >>>> Whatever you use >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> HD800
just ordered Xiaomi Piston 3s off amazon.ca
did i do good
>>51746317
GVD neger koop gwn die 558's godnondejuu
i moved into an apartment and i cant enjoy my hd800 as much. should i trade it for SE846 or roxanne
>>51747875
Why can't they just recreate the D2000 with Fostex branding?
>>51748280
>>51748301
HD600 > *
>>51748846
Roxanne (put on the red light)
Roxanne (put on the red light)
Roxanne (put on the red light)
Roxanne (put on the red light)
Roxanne (put on the red light)
>>51748846
Why would you get either? What's stopping you from using headphones? It's just an apartment.
>>51748888
Nice quads, some apartments feature paper thin walls, I swear if I hit my wall really hard with my foot, it'll break into my neighbors' room.
I've even heard some people get kinky at times :^)
>>51748846
Get closed headphones.
>>51748888
because i want complete isolation. i could hear people coming in and out every now and then with it on
>>51748912
well then iems are not the way to go. get closed headphones boo boo also street name captcha i died for your sins
What's the cheapest "I just want to plug in to the USB port on my keyboard" DAC? I want a tiny one for my brother so he doesn't have to use the shitty front 3.5mm port in the front of his old PC. Has to sound decent.
>>51748852
Lolno
>>51748989
hifimediy sabre dac
>>51749013
Lolyes
The only way to objectively quantify headphone performance is via measurements.
The HD600 outperforms your shitty boutique products for a fraction of the price. Stay mad.
>>51748912
Thin walls. Although, even though my walls are somewhat thicker, they can't block out airplane traffic.
I doubt either IEM is what you are looking for from HD800, but what are you aiming for in an IEM?
>>51748989
Not sure a normal keyboard would have the power.
>>51749028
sorry I played your voice in text to speech on my hd600s and couldnt hear you . can you repeat that?
>>51749028
>measurements of individual models represent all models
Don't kid yourself, retard. Everyone is already well aware of the HD600's terrible driver matching as it is, there'es literally as much variance in their individual driver response as there is between the HD600 and HD598.
>>51749050
>denying measurements
Back to Head-Fi.
>>51749107
hes denying measurements for the hd600 specifically because the driver matching is bad
>>51749120
>hes
kek
not as shit as DT880's driver matching though
>>51749027
Still seems rather pricey for what it is. Looks good though!
>>51749035
It's one of those usb keyboards that has a separate usb cable for the usb hub. I think it should power it normally. Plus the headphones he has are efficient.
>>51749107
>relying entirely on measurements
>>51749137
They're both bad.
>>51749137
why are you trying to make fun of me for insulting a headphone
do you perhaps own said headphone
>>51749151
The HD600 shills can't even afford something welfare level like HD600s, they just grab tight to their HD558s and praise them as a little brother to the 'godly' HD600 as praising the latter makes them feel better about what they own.
>>51749046
can someone explain this?
How shitty would something like this sound? It's only $8
is soundstage a meme or does it really help in games?
>>51749282
It's a meme. Peripherals won't help you in games, being good at them will.
>>51749269
i have that its fucked and made everyhing like 10x louder. I have the volume at like 6 now and anything more than 20 my ears fall off. think the quality is the same though
I bought a pair of PSB M4U 2 headphones yesterday, they sound brilliant, however when active noise canceling is switched on my phone won't recognize them as headphones.
anyone know anything about this?
>>51749425
yeah great purchase dude those headphones are amazing
>>51746323
thinking of getting the clone of these how are they? I heard the soundstage is good (for closed headphones) is it actually that good?
>>51749447
they're already clones
>>51746235
Yes, it's super easy. While you're at it. Take out the lock ring and get a momentum cable for them if you aren't using the huge one it comes with.
>>51749438
yeah man, they sound so good! pretty heavy though, but thats fine! Paid $350AUD
>>51749289
My 5.1 headphones help more in csgo than stereo.
Nerd.
>>51749477
Keep it up lil pubrand.
>>51746265
I agree with this. While there is sort of a lack of sub bass, most genres you can't even notice. They are pretty good, they have just been panned by people who've never owned either the 558/598 who listened to the furfag beyershill.
>>51749497
Bit late for damage control there, veilshill. It's pretty pathetic how you guys are so desperate to appear 'correct' on an anonymous imageboard.
>>51746702
I wouldn't trust any measurement with that amount of channel imbalance no matter the source.
>>51749554
Guess HD600 measurements are out of the question then. What will the HD600 shills use to perpetuate their meme headphone shilling now?
>Go to this site to check my headphones
>everything's fine wish they had more bass though
>get to the wiring part
>left channel has more bass
>get super assmad about that and start doing switching the postions, channels, sources and such
>anything to prove there's nothing wrong with the headphones
>left channel still has more bass
>start bargaining hoping that it's just my ears and not my headphones
>finally switch to my earbuds
>Still more bass
>convince myself it's just that particular file that has more bass and not the headphones
>switch earbuds channels
>bass boost is gone
>switch back to overears
>bass boost is gone
Well, I think it's time to stop this audio fidelity shit. I'm think I'm going insane from headphones. I mean, for a moment I thought it be better for my ears to be messed up, instead of my headphones. I don't think I'm psychologically cut out for this. I should get myself checked for autism
Site btw
http://www.audiocheck.net/soundtests_headphones.php
>>51746071
Fucking weeaboo
>Budget
400 AUD / 289 USD
>Location
Australia
>Source
Computer
>Preferred type of headphone
Full sized
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Preferably comfortable but if there's far superior sound quality then I'll take it over the comfort
>Preferred music
Old-school hip hop, stuff like:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71ubKHzujy8
and
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48LLdLbAiQg
>Past headphones
Shitty gaymur stuff like the Gamecom 780s when I believed in the headset meme, now I just want a solid set of headphones that I can whack a mic o
>>51747568
>Closest thing to actual flat bass would be Etymotic ER-4B/S.
so rolled off? lol, enjoy your hearing aid.
>>51750029
where would you buy them? amazon.com.au doesnt have shit and i dont know where to look for prices
>>51749425
probably some extra electricity being sent back to the phone so that it thinks something changed or it was removed when you turn ANC on. try turning it on unplugged and then plugging it in. I got the hp50 which was made by the same buy and they have a similar sound, really enjoying them.
>>51750094
Probably pc case gear or just get them shipped from burgerland
>>51750094
For Australia, there's basically only minidisc and addictedtoaudio.
>>51750143
oh you can just order shit right off amazon.com the american website?
>>51750158
some stuff yeah but it can be hit and miss.
>>51750168
ok check out akg k550
>>51746123
HD598 are good
>Fedex Smartpost
Kill me
>>51746438
>what is inspect element
>>51750155
Minidisc has really good prices on the HD600/650/800
Where do you keep your headphone wire when having it connected to a computer? I used to be able to run it under my keyboard before, but after the switch I no longer have room there for the wire and it keeps getting in the way no matter what I do.
>recive new shiny headphones
>a cable is broken
>must return the entire thing
This dosen't make me feel exclusive, it just hurts.
Should I fiddle with the equalizer ? I have HD558, using them from onboard sound
>>51751379
There's nothing you can do to make those sound good, sorry.
>>51751482
subjective
Can I make them sound better ?
>>51751492
Nothing will remove that mud.
>>51751503
I cancel it out with my super clean ears
Anyone know good earphones around £30? UK citizen here, just lost a pair and looking to find a better replacement. Preferably would like noise cancelling ones, but I don't £30 will cover that
>>51751839
What exactly are you looking for? I cant think of much below £30 in the uk other than some decent IEM, try filling in the request guide it may help.
>>51751869
Small in-ear earphones
Good sound quality
Noise cancelling if possible
Had seinheiser before, didn't like how the wire was made
Priced between £30-£50
Open to any brand recommendations
>>51751897
The sound magic e10's are pretty good and you can get them from amazon for £30, I have seen them about for less. Got a pair myself and they are the best IEM that I have owned.
Heard a number of people praising the xiami pistons aswell but I havent tried them myself.
If you want to do some more research there are some decent resources on IEM in the wiki.
>>51748280
>>51748301
X2 > K7XX >>>>>>> Sennheiser HD >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> planar memes and obscure brands
Beyerkeks
Snapheisers
Glorious AKG master race
No one ever talks about grados around here, are they that bad?
Super uncomfortable? Treble blasters?
I've always been interested in them, especially since they're made in the U.S.
q701, DT880 or Hd600?
I'm coming from Koss Porta pro
I live in Canada. Also open to other suggestions in the same price range.
>>51754248
Treble cannons. But they use the same driver in pretty much every model so are still a popular choice for modding and stuff. But if I was going down that path, I'd rather just toy around with some old orthos for the same price.
>>51754317
You can probably get a used 650 for around the price of a new 600. It will have a closer signature to the Portapro being darker and more bass heavy.
>>51754317
Hd600 is personally my favourite out of those 3
>>51754248
Boosted treble and midbass, poor bandwidth and generally poor fidelity. They are uncomfortable too. Get the cheapest ones SR60 or whatever they are if you want Grados. There is next to no reason paying for the higher end models.
>>51754317
HD 600 but like >>51754339 said the HD 650 might be more to your liking if a more bassy sound like PortaPros is what you prefer.
>Find an old school 90's Omega in perfect cosmetic condition for $1100 bucks
>Previous owner fucked up one of the drivers by trying to remove a couple of harmless marks under the dust guard
Every fucking time.
So is there a reason why the buying guide was removed?
>>51754317
HD600 is my favourite, but if you can try them out at an audio-store or something I'd recommend doing that first before you buy any of them.
>>51750237
Got a pair of 598's recently and they are pretty good, especially for the price. People complain the bass is low generally just don't understand that is how sounds/music is supposed to be. The comfort is amazing. I had been using Plaintronics/Logitech/AT up to this point.
>>51754646
>music is supposed to have bass rolled off into the depths of mt doom
ok
Q701 or HD598? I can get them used for around the same price.
I have M-100s for nigga bass, so I'm interested in open headphones to complement them.
>>51754717
Try beats by dre.
>>51754646
>People complain the bass is low generally just don't understand that is how sounds/music is supposed to be.
Your own lack of experience doesn't make measurably bass lacking headphones accurate.
German Maestro GMP 2.8D
Beat headphones I've ever used. Hell, even made a couple soundtracks using these fuckers- monitor live sound with these two.
Honestly. Really flat, sound great, built well, awesome detail, and a good price for these stunning monitors.
Can't go wrong with these, honestly.
>>51754717
Q701 has bumps in the headband, HD598 is an extra expensive HD558 with different colors.
>>51749191
Even a cheap as shit HD558 outperforms most headphones on the market.
>>51754317
HD600, easily.
What are these Sony earbuds? Cant find em
>>51755164
Those look like the ones that came with my xperia z1
>>51755233
That would be strange seeing as I don't have an xperia.....
But then again I don't remember buying these earbuds
>>51755301
I wouldn't be surprised if they also sold them sepreatly
/g/uys, my shitty Samsung earbuds just broke so I need some new ones. Thinking I'll get Piston 3s, but where can I buy them from and know they're real? Shipping to UK.
>>51751379
yes, you should always fiddle with eq. the 558 in general you want to raise the lower bass, reduce the upper-bass/ lower-mids a bit, increase upper mids. leave the highs alone though you can raise and lower a bit to your taste. all this after doing the foam mod of course. for the 598 I have 20-60hz raised by about 4db, 250-500 reduced by about 2db, 2k raised by 3db, treble flat.
>>51755378
geekbuying and gearbest have real ones, dunno if they ship to uk.
>>51755723
>the 558 in general you want to raise the lower bass
enjoy your audible distortion
558s for $80 or 598s for $111?
Is the 558s really identical with the foam mod?
Anyone know a good sound card for under £50?
If I even need one that is, got a pair of AKG 550s as I'm not going to spend ridiculous amounts on it, but do you guys think that I will need a sound card? Will I even notice the difference
>>51756360
It's nearly identical even without it.
>>51756360
yes. the back grill is slightly different but not enough to change the sound after the foam mod.
>>51756429
this also applied to sound cards, dacs, and combos.
>>51756789
>5% better sound
[citation needed]
This is the biggest headphone meme.
>>51756789
That chart is pretty bullshit. My 598s reach listening volume, and have no electrical noise, but they sound kinda muddy and underpowered without an amp. With a dac/amp they sound fucking amazing and the muddiness is suddenly completely gone.
Unless there's some other explanation for this of course.
>>51756870
don't get a faggy mohawk haircut and you wont have that problem
>>51756948
Extreme impedance issues?
"Underpowered" is not a thing if the higher SPL is never called for.
>>51756960
But I have flat, normal hair and have that problem.
>>51756966
Not sure. 50 Ω, and I'm running off my motherboard (no sound card), so maybe?
>>51756948
I understand and I totally agree on what you're saying. Despite having a relatively high sensitivity and low impedance, HD598 do require an amp. Most people here deny this fact because they simply associate amplification with loudness.
>>51756990
Isn't 50 ohms just the nominal impedance of the 598?
>>51757031
>despite having a relatively high sensitivity and low impedance...require an amp.
That is not how that works. High sensitivity and high impedance need less power and are less subject to substandard amplifier decisions.
>associate amplification with loudness
Amplification is defined with a very similar definition: multiplying the value of the voltage field in the electronics, which directly corresponds to SPL(Volt to Pascal). Sound pressure to loudness is the Pa weighted against transfer curve of equal loudness.
>>51757156
>Isn't 50 ohms just the nominal impedance of the 598?
Yeah.
>>51757171
Motherboard impedance is all over the place, varies from a few Ohms to triple digits. I wouldn't know how they implemented it just from a parts list either.
Half the effect that impedance has is screwing up the FR anyway.
>>51746071
I fell for the gaming headset meme and bought a G430. Since I can still refund it, I am now looking for a headphone for around the same price range about 70-80€ in Krautland, preferably closed and full-sized.
Any suggestions? Also, are there any headsets which are actually worth their price?
>>51756813
Lol this
>>51749269
For phones or for the mic-in?
I just saw this on Audeze's facebook.
Good idea?
Bad idea?
LOLAPPLE?
>>51757591
They better have fixed the sound problems of EL-8. Which if it is the closed version were very many.
So I guess LOLAPPLE LEL-8 Ti
>>51757591
I'll go with LOLAPPLE.
This shit will cost too much and offer no actual benefits.
>>51749269
> It's only $8
Anon, this is supposed to be a Chinese $1.5-2.5 (shipped price) device. You've been ripped off.
> How shitty would something like this sound?
That depends on the exact model, but "not fantastic" is usually the case.
My pops tried on my headset last night.
Its been a long time since I've seen him that happy. He said he hadn't listened to music in years.
I'd like to get him a nice headset, but I know he wouldn't know or care about the mids/highs/lows, tonal quality, etc. How can I get him a nice headset without it being too nice?
>>51757845
Why do you keep your ass in a jar under your table?
>>51752313
>planar memes
:^)
You guys don't have the in-ear list anymore? Actually what happened to all the lists?
>>51758100
they didnt include enough sennheiser headphones
>>51758124
because they are shit
How do I stop fucking up my earbuds? I use them at work and roll them up around my phone when I'm not using them, but they always end up making one of the earbuds stop working. Can I fix this?
>>51757845
I'll use the template if that makes it easier
>Budget
min-maxed. Soft budget at $40
>Location
US
>Source
Laptop
>Preferred type of headphone
Full sized
>Open or closed
He liked my opens, but it shouldn't matter
>Comfort level
/comfy/
>Preferred tonal balance
doesn't matter
>Preferred music
all
>Past headphones
none. He has never owned headphones
>>51758180
>all
favorite techno artist?
>>51758158
Earphone wires are made of a few dozen copper strands about the thickness of a human hair wrapped around a bit of fiberglass core. How many times do you think you can bend that before it breaks? That's your answer.
You can make the cable detachable to swap them out easily though.
I got my soundmagic e10 from that list and it's an awesome phone, too bad it's really frail to endure all the litres of sweat I put out on the gym so I wanted a new one but I can't import from amazon with the dolar prices as they are. Would it be too much of a hassle if I post the list of phones I have available near me? maybe you guys will be able to tell the best ones at a glance (probably jvc or jbl)
Looking at getting a 10/10 placebo dac.
I heard the Nuforce uDac 2 has colored audio, something I'm not a big fan of. Is the uDac 3 colored too or did they stop that shit?
>>51758208
I introduced him to MDK, which he really liked
>>51755862
HD558 isn't DT880, it can easily be equalized to anything.
Previous headphone is AKG K240s
Wanted to know people's thoughts on Senn HD 558s vs AT MH50x
>>51758244
are you talking about this shit?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rln-Z10a80A
>>51756948
HD598's impedance rises in the mid-bass and lower midrange. You really want a zero-ohm output impedance source for these headphones as a simple 10-ohm output impedance can make it sound a tiny bit muddy.
>>51758100
It's in the Wiki. All guides go in the wiki now.
>>51746265
I just downloaded and installed dfx audio enhancer for my laptops that I use will headphones, I think it has actually made a difference in the sound quality, anyone else use dfx audio enhancer or anything else like it?
>>51758313
I showed him this one. https://soundcloud.com/mdkofficial/mdk-press-start
Not sure what of the guys other stuff he likes.
Are you just trying to shit on a 70 year old mans taste in electronic or do you have a point?
>>51758294
kek, can beyerdynamic do anything right?
their flagship is a failure, their revision of said flagship is also a failure, their most popular model (DT880) is colored as fuck
why do even people buy shit from this meme company
>>51758563
Literally the only good Beyer.
>>51758346
thanks a lot man, but since my options are really limited anyway, I'm going to list the jbl and jvc I can buy since those are the two brands that keep popping up. I prefer the neutral type of output (but I'm ok with other stuff) and I'm looking for a in-ear phone to use on the gym. I'll list how much I'll pay in local bucks so you have an idea if it's worth in relation to the others:
jbl T280A - 160 bucks
JBL-Synchros Reflect-I - 250
that's it apparently, all the JVCs were cups, full list in case you glance a good brand or something but it's mixed in-ear and cups: http://pastebin.com/PJvUzDyR
thanks in advance
>>51758524
my point is that it's not techno, you dumb kid
>>51758615
Are those the only two you can buy?
Can you order from amazon?
>>51758237
Stay away from those. USB drives are bugged and the volume pot is trash. Start your search for 10/10 DACs from Schiit Modi and ODAC. If you want actual 10/10, get Benchmark DAC2 HGC.
What are some super comfy over-ears with not terrible sound quality that are at most $60? Maybe leaning towards bassy. Located in the US.
>>51758831
I can, and at first I did, but anything priced in dollar costs 10x more here in brazil
>>51758860
Superlux HD681 Evo. They're 33€ here in Italy.
>>51758872
That's really fucked up, see what else you can get locally, don't look for premium in-ears because they are not really worth it, especially for gym usage.
>>51758524
My poor ears.
>>51758576
which is more neutral than anything at that price point.
>>51758921
oh, I guess it's kidn of accepted that they will break. For the price on those phones, if the sound is at least as good as the soundmagick they are certainly worth it. I still have the cheap jvc that is suggested here, the HA101 or something, but I kind of wanted something with a better sound now that I'm spoiled by the soundmagic e10.
>>51758888
thanks friend
>>51758999
> more neutral = better
Sasuga Beyer-chan
>>51759077
Didn't said it was better, but i'm glad to see you are incapable of refuting my point.
>>51757684
Yes, got 1 for 1.2Euro. Work ok for most "audio" needs. (im here as a audio noob)
>>51759077
More neutral is better.
If you disagree you're a retard.
>>51759126
> didn't said
>>51759212
Wow! What a flawless argumentation!
>>51759077
go kill yourself already.
neutral = better.
>>51759282
>Sasuga Beyer-chan
>complains about shit other people say
you don't need to reinforce your stupidity, it's pretty clear already.
Currently have K7XX's with the fucking rattle. Is the Fostex x Massdrop TH-X00 a huge upgrade from them?
>>51759126
>>51759212
>>51759347
I don't mean to shatter your dreams away, but a V-shaped headphone is better than a neutral one, because it compensates the human ear's natural FR.
*leaves thread tiptoe*
>>51759456
brb equalizing my flat speakers to a v-shaped response
>>51759456
first dude says DT250 is more neutral, not better or worse.
>>51759520
he did say "headphone", not speakers.
>>51759456
>it compensates the human ear's natural FR
No. Flat response is heard in a certain not flat manner, but this is all part of natural hearing. There is no reason to eliminate the natural hearing mechanism.
>>51759554
>he did say "headphone", not speakers.
his flawed logic still applies
Help me /g/
I'm looking for a closed, over-ear pair of headphones around $150-250. Source pc and phone. Balanced sound with proper bass representation (no meme50x type bass)
AKG K550/K551 and the Audio-Technica ATH-MSR7 seem te be good options. The MSR7 design is 10/10 and it has a removable cable.
Which one should I choose? Are there other alternatives?
>>51759595
But isn't Harman's Target Response Curve and others based on the fact that humans don't perceive flat headphone signatures the same as flat speaker signatures?
>>51759554
>first dude says DT250 is more neutral, not better or worse.
Yes, but when certain people call a headphone more neutral here, they're implying that it's better.
>>51759621
DT250, more neutral than MSR7/K550.
K550 is prone to bass leakage. I wouldn't recommend that.
DT250 also beats MSR7 in sound and comfort, it also has a removable cable.
OK here's my probema, i have ordered a pair of AKG K240 MKII
I don't have a sound card or other thinkgs like a DAC connected to the PC.
Can you explain what should i buy to get a decent audio, possibly an external solution because PCI ports are already in use.
That's the first problem, then i would like to use an old sony cmt-cp101 with 2x35W speakers and the big ass amplifier that i would like to eliminate and use something more small and easy to hide
http://www.amazon.it/gp/product/B00J64DC42?ref_=pd_ybh_24
I don't know if this can work
Tell me the best solution without spending a lot of money.
>>51759642
IIRC Harman's listening room doesn't present a flat response to listeners.
>>51759678
Lepai amp? Connect K240 on motherboard line out?
>>51759744
there is no problem with impedence or volume levels?
>>51759649
>not available in my country
fml
Are there other alternatives?
![dfe_19033[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/UbNFao1.jpg "dfe_19033[1].jpg")
If I hoop up 2 different cans to one of these attached to a MP3 player for example
Will the louder one of the 2 have the higher sensitivity
Is that how it works?
>>51759784
Might be, but play it safe and try your motherboard first.
>>51759806
Where do you live?
>>51759905
In the civilized part of Europe.
>>51759930
Mother Russia it is, comrade.
>>51759930
Thomann.de ships to your location?
>>51759409
Is your K7xx from the latest drop?
If so wtf are they doing with the QC if people still get rattles
>>51759978
> .de
Lol no thanks
>>51760009
You know what's interesting? K712 suffers from the same rattling issue while K702 is immune from it. Which leads me to believe it's in the tuning as they use the same driver.
>>51759978
They do, free shipping too.
What's up with the bass though?
>>51760030
Your loss.
Thomann is highly recommended on /hpg/.
https://www.thomann.de/gb/beyerdynamic_dt250.htm
>>51760059
Bad seal.
It has really flat bass:
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/BeyerdynamicDT250250.pdf
80 ohm variant is the one to get as it doesn't suffer from the horrid driver matching of the 250 ohm variant.
>>51760059
Seems fine on measurements from other sources:
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/BeyerdynamicDT250250.pdf
>>51758180
Takstar 2050 will impress with velour pads and metal construction. Solid, thick and tight. Trebles a little peaky and nigger bass (but some resolution there), sound like m50s. 50$ on amazon.
>fidelio x2 arrived today
>usually have buyers remorse when first getting a new headphone
>mfw fucking loving these cans with no remorse.
£200 well spent.
>>51760115
BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM tss BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM
>>51760155
>tss
lold harder than expected.
>>51760110
>sound like m50s
>>51760115
That garbage upper midrange. That distortion.
>>51760186
>distortion
Not audible. FR can be fixed with EQ.
What headphone would you buy for gaming?
>>51760193
should've just bought takstar hi 2050
>>51760197
Sennheiser HD 558.
>>51760197
HD800.
>>51759706
They have EQ.
>>51759642
>But isn't Harman's Target Response Curve and others based on the fact that humans don't perceive flat headphone signatures the same as flat speaker signatures?
The adjustments are similar enough. I don't see how that applies.
Canada Post fucking lost the package that has my DT 770s. Do I call them and yell at them, or just wait for their incompetent workers to find it?
>>51760193
Good luck EQing that lack of fidelity.
