What went wrong?
http://news.investors.com/120115-783137-windows-10-migration-stalls-amid-slow-pc-sales-upgrades.htm
>>51740583
botnet was too blatant
Have you tried to use Windows 10?
Now imagine the average PC user, who will be afraid if the Internet icon looks different or that Solitaire isn't the same any more.
>>51740634
Uh, no.
It's all the telemetry shit.
>>51740583
The only thing they offered that was worthwhile was DX12 which requires a hardware upgrade many people aren't ready for yet.
On the other side there have been plenty of problems with upgrading that people are wary of and would rather wait until they hit a point where it makes sense to upgrade, and most of the bugs have been ironed out, rather than jump from a stable platform.
W7 works for me now. W10 will most likely bring some difficulties, while bringing no real benefits (and tracking, of course).
Why would I expose myself to potential problems when what I have now works, and when I know I'll eventually shift to Linux and dual-boot W7 only for games?
With Windows there's not a lot of reason to upgrade to the newest version unless you have some specific needs that the older version does not offer (DX12 for example).
Besides this Windows 10 doesn't offer too much, not even a noticeable performance difference.
The truth is that windows 7 is the last version that offers classic theme and is the last version of windows that has consistent looks.
I don't mention the botnet and data mining because I've heard win 7 got these updates too, but I bet average normie is convinced they're win10 exclusive.
You work as an office monkey? Win 7 runs memesoft office just fine
Are you a an engineer? All CAD tools run on windows 7 just fine
Are you a drooling /v/edditor? There's like 5 games that support DX12.
W7 user here.
Win 10 has no benefits for me. Worse telemetry, less control over things like updates, more driver issues, and I don't like the user interface.
The only thing win 10 offers is directx 12 support, which is pointless until game developers start widely adopting it.
7 is good enough. 10 doesn't offer enough reasons to switch. Also PC sales have been in a slump for a while and that's the primary market for windows
i would be inclined to try it if it wasn't shoved in my face like some kind of spyware popup
i am having flashbacks to when i was a kid with porn viruses all over my pc
i always wait on a new OS. why risk having to deal with glitches or incompatibilities? give it 6 months so they can smooth everything out. let someone else be the guinea pig.
>>51740583
There are still people on 98 and 95. Did they hope for a 100%convert rate? Some people are comfortable with what they already have amd don't want to learn a new os. Others are smart and don't want a shitty buggy os that just launched.
What's your point OP? You're the one that started the thread, you can't just drop a link and expect me to read it.
>>51740735
Everybody thinks they'll eventually switch to Linux and dual-boot. If you're planning on doing it, do it. Otherwise, don't talk about it.
>>51740583
ODD RELEASES ONLY
kek, I didn't switch from xp until 2011.
I'll stay on 7 until at least 2020 then eventually switch to my preferred distro as a daily driver, I already dual boot and I've been using it on my laptop for a few years.
>>51740583
>refusing
funny, considering users of win10 can't refuse SHIT!
so people who switch from 7 to 10 decide to never have an option again.
yeah, nah. :)
>>51741644
I used xp until 2013 lol.
>>51741644
>ntil at least 2020
By 2020 wayland/systemd/pulseaudio will be the standard among all distros, and (hopefully) gnome devs will get their shit together so ganoo fuck loonix will have a much greater chance at succeeding on the desktop market, especially considering the fact that desktop sales drop.
>>51740796
Windows 10 is faster though. I gained around 5 fps average in battlefield 4 multiplayer after upgrading.
>>51740676
>implying normies care
>implying normies don't hate snowden and assange
Shit my Windows Update is updating itself. What shit is it going to try do now?
>>51741821
>By 2020 wayland/systemd/pulseaudio will be the standard among all distros
So the year of the linux desktop will never happen because they adopt broken shit?
>>51741838
Like I said "noticeable" difference
>>51741838
that doesn't measure it very well. did you go from 20 fps to 25 (a 25% increase) or from 100 fps to 105 (a 5% increase)?
For that matter, was everything else held constant, like driver versions?
>>51741874
systemd is not broken
pulseaudio used to be broken, not anymore
wayland is still "under construction"
Dunno what u mean lol
>>51741905
Of course it wasn't constant, it was multiplayer.
If he said it was a benchmark I may have given him some credit, but in multiplayer that's just margin of error.
How do I get rid of that annoying as fuck 'Upgrade to Windows 10' popup? I deleted it in the registry but it came back after a month.
>>51740583
Why would someone who only browses facebook need anything better?
>>51741821
Nope, they refuse to adopt systemd and it doesn't use pulseaudio either.
>wewland
rubbish
>>51741927
you have to remove the update that installs it, and then hide that update so it doesn't come back. Remove the telemetry ones while you're there.
>>51741927
Get an operating system for yourself instead of renting one on someone else's terms
>>51741927
Spybot anti-beacon and aegis v1.8 stopped it completely for me.
Before that I would block it in firewall and instead of the upgrade pop-up I would just get crash notifications throughout the day.
>>51741954
Ah, must not have hid it. Thanks
>>51741594
this
>>51741908
>systemd is not broken
seven thousand five hundred eighty nine keks m8
>>51741537
This.
I said that I would dual boot and I never did.I just dropped Windows entirely one day and haven't used it since.
>>51742043
>>51742001
Setting windows update to install only important updates and no optional ones will make you less likely to have this problem in the future.
>>51741908
>pulseaudio used to be broken, not anymore
The entire linux audio stack is broken high latency shit.
I gave Windows 10 a chance by trying Enterprise N LTSB. After a week Catalyst Drivers shit itself for no reason at all. After trying a clean install multiple times I gave up and reinstalled Windows 7. I hate everything about 10 except the "under the hood" fixes. I noticed zero problems in Event Viewer. I'll try it again when games stop supporting 7 and when Microsoft gets their shit together.
>>51741905
Went from high/mid 50s to low 60s.
Gtx 670, new drivers, but I doubt they're still optimising for bf4.
Botnet
I had to install Vista to remove the telemetry
>>51740583
I wonder how much were they paid to stand there
>>51742856
They do it FOR FREE
>>51742856
>I wonder how much were they paid to stand there
Most likely students picking up some extra cash. They won't be staff; not in costume.
The casual rates are pretty good if you can dodge the gropers.
>>51741594
This
>>51740583
>qt sians
>endorsing Win 8
>>51741838
>playing new games when there's thousands of old ones that you haven't played
>>51741927
I deleted the GWX folder or something in system32
you have to fuck with permissions to delete it though
>>51743118
I'm nearly finished Wing Commander 2.
>>51740595
>botnet was too blatant
Just this, windows 10 is awesome but I'm not going to use literal spyware as O.S
>>51741857
>hurrrrrrr I hate endward assange he is terrorist!
REEEEEEEEEEE
>>51740583
What went wrong? They didn't make an OS better than WIN7 so I don't know why they expect you to change.
>>51743118
To be fair, I'm still playing Totala, just got ff vii too.
10/10 recommend totala, god tier game, especially for the time.
http://youtu.be/k6mZZiI4ShQ
The UI looks like ass and reminds people of the dying windows phone OS.
Also, most people probably don't even give a rat's ass about the botnet as long as the OS just werks™(which it doesn't).
I'm staying with Windows 7 until Windows 11 or something better comes out.
>>51743422
I got a genuine CD of this game.
>>51743503
I lost mine and had to pirate it :(
Still my favourite rts game though.
>start game
>build a ring of turrets
>build aircraft plant
>build carrier aircraft
>pick up enemy commander and drop him in the middle of turret ring
>>51742813
that's suggestive, but you haven't proven anything, since the drivers are different and you aren't running a repeatable benchmark that's the same every time, as opposed to just playing and looking at what the framerate seems to usually be. You have to run a controlled test with everything the same except the operating system to know if there's something there. Welcome to the scientific method.
>Windows 7 home edition
>Can't install more than 16GB of RAM unless I unpgrade to premium or W10
They got me
The nagware pissed a lot of people off and the botnet got too blatant.
People don't want to learn to use a new OS.
There are no substantial advantages to most people. I can't think of a single real advantage of 10, and I've been using 10 as my main OS on my work machine for months.
Spyware bullshit. Blatant as fuck. Forced updates with no details, shared WiFi bullshit. Fucking sandeep poo in loo must think consumers are all as dumb as the designated street shitters he's so familiar with
>>51743614
Just pirate Windows 7 Ultimate
The biggest competitor to windows been old version of windows for a long time.
People who need to use windows for work (Photoshop, CAD design and office drones) all have an IT department that doesn't want to deal with the shitstorm that is upgrading everyone's OS.
People at home doesn't want to update either as you know it means more bloat is added to the system and since it doesn't impact the way you use your current computer, it must not be very important.
Apple is one of the few companies who can get plebeians exicited and update their devices and the majority of those who don't is because their IT department don't want to deal with that as well.
This is why people who are tired of being tech support converts people to linux.
Worst case, they might like it and you get fewer requests, best case, they hate you and decide on their own to find help elsewhere.
If they want to spy on me like Google, they should be free. The audacity of charging for an OS in this day and age when it literally collects data on you to sell to other people AND to sell YOU bullshit is absurd
>>51742065
This,desu
Windows 10 has NINE percent market share? That's stunningly bad, given the steps MS took to encourage adoption.
And Linux is thriving. It won't overtake OS X or Windows soon, but it is growing very rapidly.
>>51743614
>home edition
What are you doing, you kek?
>>51743756
Nigga, it IS free for Win7 users.
>>51743502
>Windows 11
Not happening. Microsoft claims they are just going to eternally release more free updates for Windows 10.
>>51743799
Those nigers could have done that with Windows 7. Fuck microsoft.
>>51743774
Do you have any numbers by how much is linux on raise
>>51740583
Windows 10 (botnet operating system), can suck my balls
>>51740583
>What went wrong?
Windows 10.
>>51744003
>>51743993
>ultimate
Just why
>>51743502
Why do you use a trip? I see you posting in a lot if threads, often with an authoritative tone. Are you important?
>>51740583
I just switched back because 10 is unstable as hell.
>>51744194
Why would you use anything else?
IT Technician here, the only good thing about W10 is that it makes us money.
>literally built from the ground up for surveillance
>automatically removed programs like CCleaner
>shit driver support
>edge issues
I'd never personally use it and I tell clients that haven't already installed it to avoid it.
>>51744194
bitlocker
>>51744233
>>51744248
Useless bloat
>>51744201
He's important to me <3
>>51744201
Because I feel like it. You can filter if you don't like me you know.
I'm not that important, certainly not more important than you anon-kun.
Please have a nice day/night and I hope you do your best tomorrow.
>>51744252
It can be removed or disabled. It's worth it to avoid the artificial hardware restrictions.
>>51744252
I debloat my own win7 ultimate. Depending on what I use the machine for.
>>51744360
>>51744367
Or you can just use professional edition instead
>>51744325
It's not that I don't like you. It's just odd when seemingly random people choose to use a name and trip, especially since your posts generally seem neither more or less informed than those of other anonymous posters.
>>51740583
botnet
>>51744377
bullshit. disabling windows update service isn't a "fix". it's a shitty work around as you are basically opting out of legit updates too. also the telemetry switches don't work. the only way to opt out of that is to pay a volume license subscription for an 10 enterprise installation. and even then you're privacy is at microsofts whim
>>51744402
Well I guess you shouldn't be too surprised. 4chan isn't short of of odd people here. Honestly I know I can do without the trip but I just don't. Now I'm a voice that can easily be silenced. Anons seem happy about that.
>>51744245
Is there any hope of DX12 being able to run on Win 7 or will it always be Win 10 botnet exclusive?
It's unstable. It kept crashing on me randomly. Luckily I was able to format my hdd and install a fresh copy of windows 7.
>>51744440
Nobody gives a shit about the botnet. What people don't like is the fact that the wundows UI looks like shit and all the software incompatibilities it brings.
>>51740583
It looks like shit to be honest.
>>51741857
They don't know who they are.
>>51743993
same here
>>51744709
What do you Win 7 enterprisefags have that good old Win 7 ultimate doesn't anyway?
>>51744201
It is his way of making this place more like facebook/reddit for him. He needs people to know his name.
I'll never even see his attention seeking posts as I have all tripkids filtered.
Best to just filter out posts with anything in the name field.
Botnet
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>>51744541
Vulkan is basically Direct3D 12 without the artificial platform restriction. Just hope that developers opt to ignore D3D12 and put their efforts into Vulkan.
>>51744773
>It is his way of making this place more like facebook/reddit for him. He needs people to know his name.
If tripfags really wanted so much fame why don't they leave 4chan and go on facebook or something. They know people filter them left and right yet they still post.
Never change a running system.
After half a year, I downloaded and installed all the updates and BAM, my internet was slow as fuck.
Reinstalled drivers and what not, didn't help.
To make it short, the updates somehow turned Firefox unusable.
I wonder what exactly the reason is for that.
Anyways, have been using Chrome a few days now.
Farewell Firefox
>>51740595
yeah, pretty much this
>h-h-hey guys, why arent you taking this opportunity to switch to our free, user friendly well optimized botnet OS?
yeah, no thanks.
microshit fucking did it again.
i was even super eager to see the new 950/950xl but i aint falling for that either, not with that pricetag
>>51744770
We feel better about ourselves. That's it.
>>51744829
Some of them, as weird as it might sound, aren't here for fame.
Windows 10 won't play this, why would I want windows 10?
>>51744770
Not just enterprise, enterprise N
>>51740583
You can't stop updates. See:
https://u.pomf.io/efvkzo.webm
>>51740583
win 7 just werks.
i have 8.1 on my laptop and it is worse in every way except startup time. 10 is the same, just with even more spyware and other bullshit. the whole forced update thing, it's just unbelievable. who would want to use that?
>>51745029
> "The N editions of Windows7 allow you to choose your own media player and software required to manage and play CDs, DVDs, and other digital media files. If you choose to useWindows Media Player 12, downloading it, along with related software, is free."
Nobody gives a shit, especially people sane enough to NOT use media player 12.
>>51740595
my issue and a few others i know
>>51740634
everyone i know issues
all they needed to do was release a nonbotnet, updated version of 7. which since 8 they have failed at delivering.
for some odd reason they think its harder than that
>>51745049
I don't know what happened to you, but w10 in my PC just werks. All my driver is installed easily on there while on w7, I should install it manually.
>>51745040
THIS so fucking much.
>>51745040
lel
>>51745119
Have fun updates being forced down your throat.
>>51743502
Sweet fuck this triggered my ptsd.
>>51745040
>https://u.pomf.io/efvkzo.webm
actually pretty funny. but GWX and selective updates. probably still being spied on but fuck it im not giving them the satisfaction of my "update"
Windows 10 is not an operating system, it's a system operator. It fucking does everything for you even if you don't want it to do do it, and basically controls your computer, and not the other way around.
>>51743503
ME TOO.
DAT SOUNDTRACK and the bigger maps required 64mb Memory (or 128?)
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2989902/browsers/windows-10-users-back-away-from-the-edge-browser.html
>>51745140
>Update service
>Disabled
>>51745040
>I'M A RACIST! YOU MADE ME A RACIST!
holy fuck my sides hurt
>>51745040
Fuck you, I spit soda all over my keyboard.
>>51740583
>Windows 7 PC users refusing to move to Windows 10
>mfw the botnet actually made me try Linux
>mfw Ubuntu on laptop, Debian on Netbook
>mfw thinking of switching to it on the desktop entirely
I just need a perfect passthrough to say goodbye to this godforsaken OS. I'll miss foobar, but there's always wine for that.
>>51745309
Dam anon, you don't have to become a drunk just because you can't use foobar2k anymore. Get it together.
Pull out all that intrusive shit, stop reapplying all intrusive settings upon updates, sort out all the fucking bugs, CUT OUT ALL THE INTRUSIVE SHIT, STOP WATCHING ME, REEEEEEEE!
>>51745309
foobar is RIP anyway, musicbee is hip right now
>>51741594
Does 8.1 count as odd? I actually like it...
Reasons to upgrade
>...
Reasons not to
> To much weird, awkward Japanese synth software that Im afraid won't work on w10
> w7 does everything I need just fine
> upgrading is a hassle
>>51745360
mild kek
>>51742065
this desu senpai
i spend a shit ton of time gaming
i randomly started dual-booting antergos out of curiosity
2 or 3 months later i was like "shit, i haven't even booted into windows since i started"
so i just fucking wiped it all and installed arch
unless you're a basement-dwelling sperglord, linux has enough games
>>51741857
MUH FREEDOM
>>51740583
it doesn't fix enough old problems
it adds too many new problems
PR failure wrt the botnet memes
>>51742608
>I'll try it again when games stop supporting 7 and when Microsoft gets their shit together.
Neither of those are happening in the next decade.
>You can remove the botnet guys
I can also just stay on 7
Removed the W10 update notifier and everything bad that came with it.
Also still have the ability to shut updates off so they can't sneak back on.
Fuck Microsoft
>>51745635
Hopefully by then SteamOS will be off the ground and running
>>51745659
>SteamOS
>becoming more than a meme OS
topkek
>>51745040
>4chan in a nutshell
i am laffin
>>51745651
7 has the same fucking botnet now, you dumb kids. And you have to update or you're going to get viruses.
The only solution is to stop using Windows.
It's over.
Let it die.
>>51745805
I said i got rid of it already friend.
Also blocked all known Microsoft IPs.
I'll take my chances with the viruses.
Maybe by the time it becomes a real problem Linux won't be a timesink just to make it work.
>>51745760
I'd sperg out too if my OS forced me to restart my pc to apply shitty useless updates while I was encoding video. Fuck windows 10.
>>51745040
>those last 30 seconds
>>51743502
It doesn't "really" look like that though.
>>51743422
Best RTS ever.
Also this
https://springrts.com
is a new fully 3D engine for Total Annihilation and several mods. Highly recommended.
>>51745872
>take my chances with the viruses
You're an idiot
>linux
>timesink
Oh god, what a timesink to run a simple fucking installer, let a simple update happen and install programs from a nice, simple GUI out of a pool of TRUSTED, WORKING programs vs. a huge install, hours of initial updates, and going out to the internet to download tons of botnet-filled shitware to install on your infected goddamn Windows shitware.
Fuck you and fuck your stupid attitude. Ditch Windows now, and you'll appreciate it forever. You'll wonder why you ever thought otherwise.
Unless you're a paid MS shill, which is pretty fucking likely. In that case, fuck off.
>>51746103
Why do you even care what he does?
>>51746103
TLDR
Don't you have some Linux thread to go circlejerk in?
>>51746103
Hey anon, I can't get league working on PlayOnLinux.9, it fails at 55% patching.
My laptop doesn't have the memory to run a proper partition I don't think, any way to fix?
I used the leddit post to no avail.
Botnet made me try linux.
Ive had 0 issues with linux since transferring. Doubt ill go back at this point.
>>51746162
But can it run crysis?
>>51746022
You have to disable all that crap first though. This requires doing stuff. And doing stuff sucks.
>>51746207
I didn't do anything except unpin the icons on my start menu and make icons on the task bar small.
Would you not change anything at all on some linux install?
>>51740634
I tried anon, windows explorer crashed on me, couldn't even open control panel.
>>51745872
>buy into the arch meme
>LINUX FUCKING SUCKS, AUTISM MEME, YOUR FAG OS ALWAYS BREAKS WAAAAAAAH
>>51746343
Sorry friend.
I was tired of inputting commands when I moved away from DOS
It's just not for me and I refuse to go back to it.
>>51746207
> doing stuff sucks.
Then never use Linux, it's nothing but "Doing stuff"
Meh
I've been using windows 10 for a week now and it's good so far. You see, I have nothing to hide unlike you faggots and all your loli porn.
>>51746455
cool post, rajesh
>>51746060
I'll give that a try, but I don't think anything can beat the authentic totala experience.
>>51740634
>tfw every morning when my grandmother wakes up she plays solitaire and drinks coffee for like 45 minutes
>tfw apparently solitaire is weird on windows 10
Reeee no switch
What's the benefit?
>increased performance
My computer is already extremely responsive and can do all the things I want to do 10 times over. And I'm a pretty demanding user.
>increased security
Well a big nope to that.
>improved performance in games
meh. Win 7 is good enough for me. What's a few FPS at the end of the day?
>ease of use
Win 10 is far more obtuse and difficult to use compared to Win 7.
>>51746715
>more obtuse and difficult to use
It's exactly the same.
>Want to play free FABLE game
>Want my PC to use my built in Videocard when playing DX12 games along with my Nvidia Card for more fps
>AMD fags keep posting DX12 Async compute
I dont even know anymore, should I migrate to Win10?
>telemetry
>NSA
Implying they give much of a fuck about me in some 3rd world shithole at the otherside of the world.
>>51746759
I live in NSAland and I use 10 just for background window scrolling and snap resizing
It's fine
>>51746455
>I have nothing to hide
i see that you like to bend over and letting Microsoft butt fuck you.
>>51740583
My only real issue with Win 10 is the UEFI bullshit. I refuse to buy a new copy of Windows just because I had to replace a dead motherboard.
I paid for Windows, I want to keep using that copy.
No different than if I buy a car, I own the fucking car. Just because I throw a new engine in it doesn't mean I have to pay Ford all over again.
>>51746715
>And I'm a pretty demanding user.
More like:
>I play cowadutee and have 20 tabs open with gawker and kotaku
>>51746103
how many thinkpads do you have
>>51740583
Not about what went wrong and more what went RIGHT (that is, Win7). It does everything I need or want it to and I have no reason to upgrade until there are more than just a handful of DX12 games. Aside from that Win10 offers absolutely nothing.
>>51746739
Try to turn off windows updates.
>>51746832
I edit and re-encode high quality porn videos for rehosting on pirate sites, sometimes in 4k. Is that demanding enough for you?
>>51747853
which ones
>>51747933
cinemajuggs
>>51741985
Everyone, this. Computers are becoming ubiquitous. Learn how to use a real operating system while you still can, not an "app platform."
Holy fuck, this is /g/, the technology board. But everyone here is afraid of technology....and kids, starting up a video game, or browsing the web doesn't count.
>>51748712
>starting up a video game
You really shouldn't talk shit about something you can't do on a Linux machine.
At least for a majority of cases.
Your older games and few exceptions really don't count.
>>51748712
>this is /g/, the technology board
That's where you're wrong. This is /g/, the consumerism board.
>>51744541
What do you think, kid? Which outcome will fuck you the most?
Windows is being developed by literal marketers now. Why the fuck would I "upgrade"?
back in the day when bill gates ran the company it was awesome. they had steve ballmer hyping everyone..bill gates presence made all the employees cream themselves...
they were developing the operating system to be easy to use for the widest audience possible. thats what they were focused on, making it easy and simple but letting you own the computer, it was a personal machine and thats what they wanted to do.
now with the way the world is going, cloud based and spotify etc its the other way round, software companies hold everything and they own you. adobe is doing it, windows has done it. you dont own copies of stuff on your pc, you cant control when it updates etc and they dont give a crap about u anymore its business.
windows 7 was and is the last good OS that will ever be made by microsoft. look at the crap they pulled with the 360 and now theyre doing it again with w10. dont trust them anymore.
maybe linux will become better in the future or someone will find some way to hack windows 7 to be beast. lets hope someone keeps working on 7.
>>51740583
when people refused to upgrade the vista the main problems were that it was too different and it was missing a lot of drivers. that was the big pleb meme that soccer moms and office dads would tell each other and subsequently kept those people from wanting to upgrade, even when it wasn't that true anymore. those problems were incidental on microsoft's part and there wasn't a lot they could do about it.
10's only big pleb meme issue is that it's a spy box and microsoft isn't really being clear about what it does out of the box, or what they're doing with the data. "improving the experience" isn't a good enough excuse for most people. it's different from vista's shortcomings since this was totally microsoft's poor decision making at work and they're refusing to undo it. instead they're using guerilla marketing, showing upgrade prompts on every windows machine and going as far as pushing a windows 10 image onto computers of people who are on metered connections and don't even want to upgrade. 10 is fine other than that. a few big customization and interface issues aside, it's a good operating system, it's just being marketed by a bunch of reckless clowns who think upgrading is more necessary than inevitable.
they're successful trolls as well because i really can't stand the soulless attitude behind "oh, you don't want to upgrade now? we'll ask later then :^)"
>>51748871
xbox one i meant*
>>51740847
Don't forget dx11.1, which is widely used and not on Windows 7
>>51748712
>Learn how to use a real operating system
Such as?
>upgrade to Windows 10
>neutralized the botnet
>removed bloat
>runs faster than any previous windows OS
>ready for the newest, hottest software
I love being smart enough to Google how to fix things.
>>51748871
Windows XP pretty much fully realized the Windows design ambitions. Everything since then has been gimmicks.
>>51749118
Enjoy removing it over and over again in every Windows update, every single day from this point on.
>>51745872
Distros like Ubuntu or Mint aren't timesinks. They "just werk"
>>51749125
windows 7 is better than xp im sorry to say, windows xp was great for its time though. damn i remember when windows 7 first came out they were calling it windows over 9000 and everybody was loving it, back then /b/ had filters for numbers and other stuff. roodypoo etc... good times.
yeah windows 7 is the best...its just perfect to me...the only thing they could to to improve it is make it more modular so you can add/remove features and make changing the GUI easier.
>>51749195
Windows 7 has annoying file permission issues when you're integrating files across previous installations and users.
>>51749132
It's checked and auto removed in the background every time I boot up.
>>51744929
Muh applocale
>"windows 98se users refusing to move to windows me"
>"windows xp users refusing to move to windows vista"
>>51740583
HEY LOOK THE ENTIRE WORLD ISN'T ON WINDOWS 10
BETTER RUN ANOTHER STORY DAVETHIS COULD BE THE BIGGEST SCANDAL SINCE WINDOWS 8.1.
>>51745525
Yeah. I only really dual boot Windows just in case I need to fix a wifi problem that's only on my openSUSE partition. I rarely use it outside of that
>>51750228
Why would anyone use windows me when windows 2000 existed?
>>51750272
literally muh games
2000, being NT-based, didn't have as good support for older DOS games (which at that time, we're talking just a few years ago+)
Windows 10 is dog shite
>>51742233
You fucking nigger. Pulse was never meant to be low latency audio system. Of you want low latency on Linux, user Jack.
>using 8.1
>it works, simple and fast
>update to 10
>suddenly Catalyst drivers doesn't work
>UI is a mess
>Start Menu is shit, literally useless
>Edge is literally a phone browser
>can't play about 60% of my steam games
>buggy as hell
>can't deactivate stock antivirus completely
>damn OS won't activate though I had a genuine 8.1 licence
>it won't let me customize it because of this
>call MS
>"Wait for a week or two and it will activate itself to be honest family"
>fuck it
>reinstall 8.1 from scratch
>disable Modern UI, configure Windows button to show regular software, not apps, delete all Modern UI apps, disable Windows Defender and Windows Store, disable AppX services, install all windows updates except Win10 and telemetry ones, then disable Update services
>install steam and prefered software
it felt so good, I love 8.1, it's basically Win7 with a faster boot, a better Task Manager and native ISO virtual mounting
Win10 got nice animations I think
Never Ever
Less people on Windows 10 == Less reasons for developers to use DirectX12 + More reasons for developers to use Vulkan.
Cross Platform Uprising when
>>51740634
i dont like change for change's sake. leave all the menus and shit the way it fucking was, leave the icons how they were, and let me fucking chose what i like. give me a skin for win 98, winxp, win 7, and this minimalist shit and I will choose what the fuck I want.
i dont like having to relearn where every god damn thing is located every time an os gets updated just because microsoft things they have to change everything up or people won't buy it.
this is one of the reasons the business segment does not upgrade for a decade.
desu because its fucking garbage. i dont give a shit if its a little bit better than 7 in performance. I really don't care. I'll live with the loss in FPS over dealing with such a shitty inconsistent design and UI. Not to mention all the bloatware apps and other bullshit. Not to mention all the shit Microsoft promised and made Windows 10 seem like they were going to fix things and be much more involved. Too bad that was a joke and Edge is a joke like everything else. I'll keep to Windows 7 until Microsoft can get their shit together and provide an actual OS.
>>51745452
after the first major update it was good, kind of like how vista was after its second.
>Using 8.1
>It works, everything runs perfectly, no issues whatsoever
>Update to 10
>Start experiencing issues
>Roll back to 8.1
>Never experience said issues again
I think I'll stay on 8.1, thank you very much.
>>51750011
applocale is not working on win10?
out of curiosity, are you able to block microsoft's access to your computer on a hardware firewall level?
>>51740595
Funnily enough this is true even among normies, a lady came in with her MacBook pro and asked me to install Office on it today and during our conversation she mentioned how she's heard how bad Windows 10 was yet she literally knew nothing about it.
>>51745909
1:34-1:39 is my ringtone
> struggle with windows update problem on win7
> get frustrated, fuck it maybe it will work in 10
> bootup takes extra 30 seconds
> lock screen displays random shit with "would you like to know more" links
> cortana eating up space on my taskbar by default, even though I turned her off during install
but the kicker was
>sportball twitter on my god damn start menu
>on my start menu
mfw
>>51745805
you can just download non botnet updates
>>51748893
vista was a resource hog, and a bad one at that, when it came out it would use all the fucking ram no matter how much ram you had, you had to disable so much shit to make it better than sticking with xp, add that to the drivers not being there.
vista largely offered nothing over xp other than dx10 which no one really used, and you aren't upgrading a pc for 1 fucking game.
a few system packs later and the os is now pretty damn good, but by this point windows 7 is around the corner/out and its base version is what visa should have been.
to add to this, the hardware cost that vista had is largely what win7 has too, however time advanced and pcs are more than capable of taking the hit now, they weren't with vista.
so when the upgrade had to happen, they moved to 7... i moved to 7 due to getting an ssd and from what i remember the os has better support for it than xp did, that and dx11 was getting used, i moved to it before the first dx11 only games started coming out.
basicly, vista was broken at launch with no drivers
win 7 wasnt broken at launch and had drivers.
win8 offered next to nothing over win7,
win10 offeres damn near nothing over win 7, and if vulcan takes off, never will
Can you still get those legit Windows 7 ISOs somewhere?
I'm scared about having to switch when my SSD kicks the bucket.
W7 masterrace.
>>51740583
Left or right, /g/?
>>51749111
Something POSIX compliant for starters. Take your pick.
"Those who do not understand Unix are doomed to reinvent it, poorly."
>>51751125
left, but I'd be willing to downgrade
>>51750658
There's a mirror somewhere which saved all the mydigitallife ISOs and hosts them for free
I'd post the link but I'm on mobile so you'll have to wait until I'm home. Better get as many of them before it's taken down or runs out of hosting money
>>51740676
Hello dear paranoid, I am mostly freebsd and Linux user but recently I had to install Windows for one of my laptops since VM wasnt sufficient anymore. Of course I did some research first and found anti-beacon tool to disable telemetry, made by spybot search & destroy. I do have pfsense router setup and extremenetwork switch stack so I decided to monitor this little fucker for possible leaks with traffic package monitor. So good so far.
>>51750645
Does Vulcan even take advantage of Built in GPUs like DX12?
>>51750466
Fucking Bingo, this anon has hit the nail on the head.
I can just imagine the design department at Microsoft developing Win 8 & 10
>G-g-guys, look what Apple have released!
>Shit, we better copy them, even though we have 90% market share!
>Great idea Gary, have a promotion!
I can't begin to imagine the amount of cringe some of the developers would be feeling desu, probably why the quality has been shit.
>>51742065
I think quiting windows cold turky is the only real way to make a clean switch.
I installed ubuntu as a dual-boot when longhorn was just released. Grub still couldn't detect it back then so windows didn't show up as a boot option.
This coupled with the fact that I didn't even know how to reinstall windows, let alone what a partition was, resulted in me formatting the who disk a couple of times and being stuck with ubuntu as a main system.
Looking back, I bet I would be a windows 10 user now if things hadn't went the way they did.
>>51740583
>buggy
>botnet
>forced updates
>looks like shit
>inconstant as fuck ui
>no customization (without editing the registry or some shit)
there is literally no reason to use it when you have 7 for muh start menu, and 8.1 is great
>mfw i finally made the jump on my desktop
Feels meh beside if you think Windows 7 doesnt have backdoors and telemetry your deluded
Monthly reminder that you can emulate windows for games with 99.6% performance.
https://youtu.be/37D2bRsthfI
>>51740634
>Solitaire isn't the same any more
If there's any.
My work workstation (with win 8.1) don't have it and GOD AM I BORED FUCK
The average user seeing a Windows 10 popup on their computer probably thinks it's a virus or some shit.
>>51751737
But I've heard that not only is it there.
You can pay monthly/yearly for Solitaire PREMIUM
I read somebody on /g/ say it was that way since W8 when somebody was throwing a shitfit about it on 10
It's that or you can play Solitaire with ads.
>upgrade to 10 on my tablet
>didn't really like it
>downgrade again
>all is well
>few days pass
>Now Constant messages telling me to update to Windows 10
Seriously every time I boot there's some sort of message with a quote from some tech site wanking over Win10. I move the little Windows Icon off the taskbar but it just forces itself back
>>51751758
>paying for something that ought to be free
What else, everything is Comic Sans unless I pay for new fonts? Fuck this bullshit and fuck MS for trying to push it on me.
>>51744495
this is you.
>>51745040
>https://u.pomf.io/efvkzo.webm
>>51751776
>Premium font packs
Holy shit anon
STOP
YOU'RE FEEDING THEM IDEAS
>>51751220
http://mirror.corenoc.de/digitalrivercontent.net/
>>51740583
Friendly reminder to get rid of the botnet in 7/8/8.1
1/2
KB3102812 - Allows background downloading of W10
KB3102810
KB2999226 - More Win10 compatibility bullshit, will allow you to run Windows store / desktop apps
KB2505438
KB3046480
(KB2670838 – Windows 7 Only (corrupts AERO and blurry fonts on some websites))
KB2952664 – prepares system for upgrade to Windows 10 (sends a bunch of telemetry data to M$, reported to corrupt system files)
KB2976978 – prepares system for upgrade to Windows 10; Windows 8 only
KB2977759 – prepares system for upgrade to Windows 10, installs telemetry
KB2990214 – prepares system for upgrade to Windows 10
KB3021917 – prepares system for upgrade to Windows 10
KB3022345 – installs diagnostic tracking service, reported to corrupt system files
KB3035583 – pitches the free Windows 10 upgrade
KB3044374 – prepares system for upgrade to Windows 10
KB3050265 – supposedly fixes an issue with windows update, but also changes system files to support upgrade to Windows 10
KB3050267 – prepares system for upgrade to Windows 10
KB3068708 – installs telemetry service, prepares system for upgrade to Windows 10
KB2922324 – (reportedly pulled, uninstall it anyway if already installed)
KB3014460 – affects windows 8 only
KB3015249 – adds more damn telemetry
KB3065987 – makes “improvements” to the windows update client (really just more Win10 bullshit)
KB3075249 – adds yet more telemetry, This update adds telemetry points to the User Account Control (UAC) feature to collect information on elevations that come from low integrity levels.
>>51751854
Nigga, why bother yourself with some small time crap, when you can LITERALLY ransom people for their entire shit they ever had on the computor with a paywall updates.
>"""upgrade""" to WINX for FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>[spoiler]pay for an update later lel[/spoiler]
>>51740583
>>51751912
2/2
KB3075851 – makes “improvements” to the windows update client (really just more Win10 bullshit)
KB3080149 – adds yet more telemetry, The diagnostics tracking service collects diagnostics about functional issues on Windows systems that participate in the Customer Experience Improvement Program (CEIP). CEIP reports do not contain contact information, such as your name, address, or telephone number.
KB971033 - Description of the update For Windows Activation Technologies
cmd:
sc stop Diagtrack
sc delete Diagtrack
Task Scheduler Library: delete
Everything under "Application Experience"
Everything under "Autochk"
Everything under "Customer Experience Improvement Program"
Under "Disk Diagnostic" only the "Microsoft-Windows-DiskDiagnosticDataCollector"
Under "Maintenance" "WinSAT"
"Media Center" and click the "status" column, then select all non-disabled entries and disable them.
services.msc:
"Remote Registry" to "Disabled" instead of "Manual".
>>51751912
>>51751918
>Go to disk cleanup
>Windows always has 600mb for Windows Update
Is this what that shit is? Never really looked into or though about disabling it but it could be useful
>>51741644
I didnt switch from XP until 2015
>>51740583
>What went wrong?
ELITE
>>51748871
>windows 7 was and is the last good OS that will ever be made by microsoft.
you are spelling windows 98 wrong
>>51751237
Nigga... do you even.....
Have you no understanding how data transfers work? The request header to ms-update could contain thousand pieces of information... 'so good so far'
Man you hooked me good with that bait.
>>51752049
You mean Windows 98SE
>>51740583
Why not moving to 8.1 Pro 64 bit ?
Can you justify using any version of windows 7 out of professional?
>>51745040
>tfw Debian does not have this problem
>auto updates
>no descriptions
>defaulting user settings
>reinstalling and renaming telemetry services
>"Want to know more? Here's a hyperlink of a lmgtfy with KB #"
>>51751419
there's that transition period with a dualboot setup tho. two weeks to a month maybe strictly linux will usually seal the deal. its like moving into a new house, youve got to setup and unpack or it doesnt feel like home. a lot of people dont get to that point and just go back to whats comfortable
>>51740583
No killer app that makes systems from Vista's heyday woefully obsolete.
Windows 7 is pretty much what Vista should have been at launch. If Microsoft took its time with it instead of trying to phase out XP ASAP.
>>51743422
I play this with the escalation mod. Best rts ever by far, fuck those starcraft kiddies
>>51752910
You should check out planetary annihilation.
Basically the same game but introduces planets. Instead of a flat piece of planet, you are in an entire solar system of small planets. It's cool to me since you send a nuke and you can send a nuke from one planet to another and you can watch its orbital path, or watching it go around a planet. Artillery goes further on smaller planets as well. It's generally the total annihilation style but better.
>>51740796
>You work as an office monkey? Win 7 runs memesoft office just fine
Just wait for them to make the next version of office only compatible with windows 10, so you gotta upgrade.
>>51752396
>what Vista should have been at launch. If Microsoft took its time with it instead of trying to phase out XP ASAP.
are you seriously saying vista was rushed?
they started development before XP even came out, they spent way too long on it
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Development_of_Windows_Vista
how young ARE you?
>>51745040
>no REEE
9/10
>>51753164
Why would they use the next version of office? Where I was working until this year, they're still on 2007.
>>51743799
>eternal bleeding
It's because enterprises have only *just* gotten rid of Windows XP, and standardized on Windows 7. XP support only ran out last year.
Windows 7 support ends in 2020, so meh, not in any hurry to upgrade.
Enterprise is where the big sales are at for Microsoft.