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I have a computer running almost all the time to which I automatically weekly backup my laptop's home to
Is there anything I can do to minimize the risks from not having it offline, e.g. make the folder read only on the other days of the week?
>>51737091
>not automating your backups
Kek
>>51738283
>ransomware encrypts PC AND backups
Really good process automatic backup is
>>51739215
what shit OS and software are you using?
My backups are on a secure remote machine
back up what?
>>51737091
primary tower's PSU died over the weekend, so there's nothing to back up right now.
also, it's automated and drops a log file into dropbox for me, so all I have to do is check my phone and I know what the current status is.
>>51739215
>implying I store backups on the same machine
>giving primary device write rights to storage device instead of giving storage device read rights to primary
>ishygddt
Backing up is the second funniest meme, close second to ram sticks with heatsinks.
>>51739241
Windows xp..acronis
>>51738283
> automatics backups
> automatically fail
please stay out of computer room you knob
>>51742287
>> automatically fail
automatic backups don't fail unless you're using a shit network or shit software
If it works on enterprise shit with thousands of users, it works on your personal workstation. If it fails for any reason, I have notifications set up from the server to bring it to my attention immediately
>>51742329
You always assume they use shit networks and shit software.
youaintnosysadminbro
>>51742351
you didn't even specify whether we're talking about remote BYOD or on site workstations 'sysadminbro' because there are different solutions for each. I was clearly talking about backing up in a controlled and stable env
>>51742351
ding ding ding, winrar.
fuck man, one of the companies I support uses some shit called StoreGrid, it's written in Java by a couple Indians and hasn't been officially supported since 2008, but they insist on using it because it's what they've always had.
>>51742383
> controlled and stable environment
UwotM8? Really, just walk away because you are just digging yourself deeper and deeper into a hole. You haven't the foggiest clue WTF you are on about, yet you DARE to post among us, the Digerati.
If a human didn't start that backup, it didn't happen
If a human didn't see it end, it didn't happen
If a human didn't restore it to the backup machine it didn't happen
If the backup production machine is never swapped with the production machine, it didn't happen
Or, you know, ride your luck. Just stick to fooling management cos you'll fool no one here
>>51737091
Thanks, but I don't need to make a backup, I've got a RAID6 setup in my box
>>51742555
>If a human didn't start that backup, it didn't happen
>If a human didn't see it end, it didn't happen
>If a human didn't restore it to the backup machine it didn't happen
is that what they taught you at your shitty cert course?
>>51737091
Too much work, I'll do it tomorrow.
>10/15/2015
nah i can go another month without backing up
>>51742616
> I don't know enough to do it
> It must be shit
You are Jimmy Rustles AICMFP
>>51739809
>implying this doesn't look like it matches your racecar bed perfectly
>>51742802
I have no clue what you're talking about
You're basically just spewing memes
>>51742821
> implying you're worth more than memes
"Automatics backups" ... please! Stay out of computer room you knob
>>51742850
>pseudo elitist faggot thinks he knows so much better
Go jerk someone off on reddit already
>>51737091
I haven't made a single backup since 1994 and I haven't lost a single file unintentionally.
I don't understand why people are routinely getting shitty drives that fail on them or accidentally wipe their shit with a bad command. Maybe I've just been lucky with my purchasing/usage decisions?
>>51742894
It's a matter of luck and to some extent a matter of hardware quality. There is also an unknown factor like a retard breaking loose from a cage and smashing your PC. Corporats that get paid to churn out reports and code, all of which is done electronically have backups because the data is worth money and work hours. They can't afford to gamble on the unknown factor because there's a lot at stake
>>51739809
pretty true if all the data on your gayman rig is worthless
>>51743043
I didn't ask why people would need to create backups, I get it. I just don't think it's worth the time for average people. Is your porn collection really that important?
I don't particularly care about anything on my drives though. Sometimes it just gets overwhelming with the amount of shit I save and I just wipe everything roughly once every 4 years.
>>51742872
not him, but
>ad hominem
Backup admin here, the guy you're failing at debating knows his shit well enough to run circles around you.
The point he's trying to convey is that just because the software says the backup completed, that doesn't mean the job is done. At some point you have to do testing to make sure that the software is doing its job and that your backups are usable. I've seen companies that despite having backups, were unable to use them because there was disk corruption on the storage device.
Best practices say you should do regular testing of both file restores, disk restores, and full system restores. That's not to say everyone follows best practices, but that's what >>51742555 is trying to say. Also, trips speak the fucking truth.
>>51737091
>Reminder
Nope. Time Machine is up and running.
Hourly diffs, daily backups, weekly backups.
>>51743043
>>51743117
Not trying to sound like a dick. I realize the tone of the post is shit. Sorry.
>>51743117
I'm not backing up my porn. I'm backing up the pictures of my family, years worth of kb articles I've written, installers that can't be found online anymore, my web server files + configs, and my media collection.
Sure, the movies and music could be re-downloaded, but do I really want to have to re-download 4 TB again? tbhfam it's just easier to let my secondary rig hold duplicates of my shit than to pay for a cloud backup or having to re-download everything if one of my drives fails.
>>51743117
>Is your porn collection really that important?
I dunno. All I was trying to convey was that there's this abstract quality of value whether monetary or sentimental or whatever.
Most people don't see the value because they use computers as mediums of entertainment so there is no significant impact on their lives if the whole computer goes down the shitter.
>>51743117
> I just don't think it's worth the time for average people
Truth. In maybe 2% of cases have I seen "hard drive dead" mean actually lost, in 6% of cases clean room platter transfers for $1k have recovered. In all of remainder, standard data recovery works. It's math:
2% chance of loss
6% chance of spending c$1k
92% chance of $150
Not even including all those who never need backups
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>>51743117
I run backup on my fileservers because I have a data cap and if it died my ISP would lose their shit at me to try to re-download all of it...
I agree that most of the stuff truly isn't that important though. I nuked my old Windows 7 install with no backup just today
>>51743213
I never understood the appeal of family photos. Like, I've seen them. I know what they look like. In a lot of cases, I was there. I experienced it. Holding on to photos of the past isn't going to let me relive that moment you know?
Yeah 4 TB of content would be annoying to have to re-download.
I've trashed tons of articles I've written over the years as well as old server configs and misc shit. At first it's a struggle to decide whether I should wipe it clean or not but then the relief of having all of that burden lifted off me sets in a couple days later.
>>51743288
Fair enough. I forget some people have to deal with data cap bullshit.; what a truly fucked up world we live in.
>>51743129
Basically, being an elitist faggot and not clearly explaining your point all while claiming to know much better on a chinktoon board deserves adhominem. He never clearly explained what he was talking about on purpose, instead using broken english and memes just so he can claim to know better. Testing backups is part of implementing a solution, it doesn't take le expert sysadmin to figure it out.
tl;dr he's a faggot
I'm just riding on the supposed long life and low failure rate of SSDs at this point
>>51743289
> family photos.
In my family it's been children: it brings a sense of continuity to know that these are the people and places of the past just as these newer photos of they themselves depict them for the future. To lose photos is, for many people, to psychologically lose their lives
>>51742571
if you think raid is a replacement for a backup then you don't belong here
>>51743410
>inb4 some edgelord dictates how you should feel about data that you assign value to
>>51743289
In my case, they're family history pictures. The originals are kept in plastic sleeves to slow their degradation, but it's happening. I've scanned them all to preserve them as best I can, so that I can show my kids and grandkids what their great great great grandma looked like, as well as flac files I recorded of my grandmother telling about her grandmother.
It's sentimental value, there's no monetary worth here.
I see people who don't do that and they end up with the last recorded instance of someones voice or face is a voicemail that was left on their phone chewing them out or some shit, and I don't want that. I have a colleague with a recording he made off an old Nokia that was his mother asking him to pick up milk on the way home, and it's the only remnant he has of her. I feel for him, and I'm trying to make sure I have more than that.
>>51743237
did you pull those statistics straight out your ass or is there some basis to them that isn't your personal genius at work?
>>51743743
I do consumer and commercial tech support, I looked those figures up last year from my notes from the previous 8.
YMMV
>>51737091
I store all my important data on a usb stick. When I plug it in, I run a batch file that backs up to the cloud, my main ssd, and a backup hdd.
